Well good evening JIM-thanks for dropping in mate --a quick word from the `silent majority` is always welcome-please feel free to call in and join us,we are always open to informed opinion from any quarter.......retired submariners being no exception -If you are a regular browser you will no doubt have a rough idea of the `form` in these parts-drop by for a pint or two and let us know what floats yer boat,hope to see you again soon,all the best,Nick and shop steward
P.S-Have a fondness for Conneticut-not only a fine piece of country but adopted home of my R`&`R hero -Keith Richards.................I know-cheap and shallow but hey-it works for me........l
<The Chaleur at Gaspé, Québec, Canada - personal foto>
A smile to begin the week!
"It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed." - U.S. Air Force Manual
G'day Gents!
Yeah, it's MONDAY once more - BUT my favorite time of the year begins TODAY - FALL - then WINTER! <awwwwwwwwright> Bring it on!
Fill up the coffee mugs with our finest blend - check out The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board! That's the way to begin the day!
And we have a SPECIAL MENU, prepared by our Chief Chef Nick! <see his Post>
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Comments from the Proprietor
It's "You Post, I Post" at the Bar by the Ballast!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Sunday - September 21st <all times Central daylite>:
Page 23 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:20 PM <2:20 AM Monday GMT>: A most inclusive, interesting ‘n informative < I3 > Post from our man in Wales! Fine foto spread - just a bit o' something for everyone!
Very impressed with the locale - some mighty fine scenery captured by your foto prowess! I'm "into" sunrises ‘n sunsets - just enjoy the changing hues of sky . . . Nice shots of family 'n surroundings . . .
So, the waterway is a river - tidal I'm assuming. Curious regarding the average swing between lo ‘n hi
Anyone NOT knowing what "desmesne" means - check out the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demesne
I think that train color is fine - reminds me quite a bit of VIA Rail's Renaissance cars <Euro - Chunnel Chuggers>
I'm getting rather envious with all this talk of a get together over in your part of the world - ‘n WITHOUT Moi! <geesh> Yeah, I know - cancel the work for the basement problem - spend the money for air fare, etc. Yeah - sure. <groan>
That guitar rack of yours reminded me somewhat of the assortment my late-oldest son had. Each one of his were in order of mastery - from his first classical to the most strange looking electric <sorry, don't know the brands> - he played ‘em to perfection.
Your comments are spot on regarding one either having it or not when it comes to proficiency with music. I'm in the latter category, sad to say. But I'm a very accomplished LISTENER, FINGER ‘n FOOT TAPPER! <grin>
Email response received - appreciate the candidness. Idea was simply to ensure we do NOT encourage those who flipped the bird our way.
Enjoyed your visit, the breakfast menu ‘n of course good cheer always a staple from our man in Wales!
Page 23 - Jim <nutmeg1> at 8:21 PM <9:21 PM EDT>: Very complimentary visit from a self-professed "browser."
Also appreciate your comments made over on "my other Thread." Unfortunately, I have no plans to keep that going - except perhaps to keep it "up" on the Page every now 'n then . . . Everything seen there, has been most times Posted FIRST here . . . just hasn't worked out the way intended.
Should you change your mind about participating at the bar - you'll receive your OH-FISH-UL welcome 'n free drink!
Page 23 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:46 PM <2:46 AM Monday GMT>: Directed comments to Jim <nutmeg1>
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Perusing Pages from our Past <P3>
Here's something NEW for our crew, begun a couple of weeks ago - checking out material from those who were at the bar on this date "back when" - so, here's something from a year ago on Page 109 "Our" Place II . . . Check it out! Who knows, you may see something NEW or that you enjoy viewing again!
http://cs.trains.com/forums/114/991960/ShowPost.aspx#991960
Tom
Interesting weekend for football unless you follow the Patriots. As Lars, I am a Giants backer.
Nick - Hammer? Thumb? I'll bet there were a lot of sentence enhancers. Hands still work o.k. for me, but it's the knees; got one destroyed at work yrs ago and the other one's just old (lol). Sorry to hear about your friend's situation - it's never easy. Thoroughly enjoyed your photographs. River shots and others were great.
Allan was in with comments. Yes, we will get you over here somehow. After all where can you find so much knowledge, etc. etc. in one place that's not surrounded by a wall and moat (yes, Boris, with crocodiles).
Eric sent along some fascinating narrow gauge material and more locomotive information. BTW, temperature at Elkins, WV, was in the 30's this morning.
Pete - Good to hear that you made it home in one piece and the Uncle Pete smiled upon the little Amtrak that could. Never enough pictures of the Duchess - kind of like N&W steam or NYC 5200s - you just can't look at one. Appreciated the picture at Crewe as well. There is also a Crewe in the Commonwealth of Virginia. It was a helper base on the N&W. Nose around in O. Winston Link's pictures and, IIRC, you'll find a night shot of a Y6b taken there. It's a lot more rural there than your Crewe.
OSP - E mail rec'd. I was familiar with the Grand Canyon thread, but appreciate you posting the link. Enjoyed your picture, two in particular; the ultradomes in their native habitat, and the consist shot of the Chaleur at Gaspe. "Money Pit" is one of my all-time favorites. I saw it the first time while on a looong term road trip to Montana, Idaho, and Washington State. I have not seen "North to Alaska" in years. Also flipped through your page from the past - brought back a lot of memories.
Work safe
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Ruth, you look fantastic today! Yes, a coffee and a super sized cheese danish, please.
Last night I had the same problem with Kalmbach's server again. Did not respond. But who cares? I am just taking a break before going to the rehab.
Tom – Thank you for the reminder, but I do still remember that white, cold and wet stuff that is coming after the fall. That is the reason I am living in the desert now! If I find that book, Snowbound Streamliner, I’ll let you know. The reason I haven’t been able to log on is that the server doesn’t respond. Which means it wouldn’t help to be logged on all the time. How did you know about the brunette? She arrived at terminal 4 so that wasn’t a problem. I agree about MoT, it is a place worth many visits. Impossible to check out everything in just a few visits. I didn’t provide any info on those photos beacuse I didn’t have it available. But I’ll find it soon and let you all know. Read gbrewer’s letter with great interest. I must say I am surprised to learn that GCRR are going to (already have) stop using steam locomotives. That is not a good decision. If they also are going to get rid of the Alcos, well, it certainly makes me wonder. Interesting photos, but it makes me sad to see the poor condition of MoT’s GG1. I hope they will bring it back in next to running condition! I’ve tried to get a good picture of it, but it is impossible the way it is sitting in the shed. Way too cramped. One of my favorite movies at the Emporium this week! North to Alaska! It’s a great, funny, movie. I’ve seen it many times, have it on video tape and I’ll see it now again! I don’t know anything about the Money Pit but I like Shelley Long and Tom Hanks! Very good choices! Including the Three Stooges!Received your mail. Pete – It is easy to see why the Duchess of Sutherland and Bittern are the proud of the LMS and the LNER! very good looking locomotives. (with no headlights!) Lingonberries are very good! Try them next time you go to IKEA! I was actually sitting in my car when the bull moose charged. Two of the T41’s have been preserved. A third T41 has been saved for parts. They all belong to the Swedish National Railway Museum. The little narrow gauge loco has a small diesel engine. Allan – I checked, but it seems like there is no IKEA store in NZ. Too bad, because they all serve Swedish Meatballs (with lingonberries) in their restaurants. I’ll be back with info on the equipment in my narrow gauge photos. Nick – Very nice evening photos! 8.3 m tide? Wow, that is quite a bit! Narrow streets in Newport! What is the speed limit? Is it a one-way street? Opel Commodore, wasn’t that a more luxury version of the Opel Rekord? Jim – Thanks for stopping by! I hope you will be back again soon! Retired submariner, that sounds very interesting! CM3 – I am glad I’m not in Elkins, WV, this morning. We have temperatures in the same range in Northern AZ this time of the year. That’s why I don’t live in Flagstaff. I have to check in what part of WV Elkins is.
A couple of photos from the maintenance depot north of Stockholm, Sweden.
A round for the house!
Eric
Most pleased to see a good start to our Monday AM . . . made so by Shane's appearance ‘n enhanced by a daylite visit from our Sandman!
It's far easier for me to keep up with the responses when the Posts are made during daylite hours . . . otherwise, the late-nite stuff just delays my morning activities with preparation . . . <barf> HOWEVER, when it comes to our crew residing in far-away places with far different time zones - well, that's understandable.
Specific comments in my next round of acknowledments . . .
Here's a spate o' fotos from the latest exploits of the Proprietor ‘n the Bar Chandler <aka: Tom ‘n Pete> from the end of last week . . . they are in no particular order ‘n surely won't need very much elaboration - enjoy!
(1) Our Interim Governor General arrived!
(2) We found an Oasis!
(3) 10 steamers w/10 cabooses in the Can-Am Trainroom <aka: museum!>
(4) An oldie but a goodie at the StL MoT <Kirkwood>
(5)
(6) Something for everyone at the StL MoT <Kirkwood>
Later!
Hi Tom and all.
I'll have the Full English Traditional Breakfast special NICK has prepared please RUTH
TOM Another great set of Random Photos. Interurban No.8 looks a classy car. Those UltraDomes on the Denali Star look classy cars as well, but to me they don't have the style of the Budd Dome cars. If we win the lottery we will have to sponsor a repaint for the GG1 # 4918 at the MOT although I guess we would have to decide Tuscany Red or Brunswick Green.
Yes up early Sunday morning, the Mighty Shrews had a noon kick off which meant 6 AM here had a look in at the bar before we headed out.
Thanks for the e-mail response and the new e-mail.
I think that ‘Snowbound Streamliner will be a good book often the price is high for a used book that is good, as the folks who have a copy hang on to them. There is a saying in the UK about railways they call it "Steam in the Blood" and it is said once it is there you can't get rid of it.
I know when main line steam finished in Britain I did lose a lot of my interest in the railway scene for a few years but going to a open day with steam and a trip I mentioned to Nick, it returned. I regret now the period I missed, as quite a few diesel classes disappeared in those years like the Metro-Vic Co-Bos and the North British Co. built diesels.
That is an interesting insight into the lot who own the GCR now in your reply to Allan.. Killing the golden goose springs to mind about what is happening.
I have not seen the Money Pit and it is a long while since I last saw John Wayne in North to Alaska so two good films on at the Emporium this week, and of course the Stooges.
Really enjoyed the trip back to the bar a year ago, in the link you provided. It hardly seems a year since we spent a long time at the TrainWreck that afternoon. I remember the jailhouse well. I wonder what did happen to Jan Olav and it was a great time with Senior Manager Lars able to post regularly.
Many thanks for the photos of my latest visit. It seems another time when we have enjoyed good weather for visiting the MOT. Great to see the steamers complete with their cabooses in the display case. The Georgia switcher had a long life from 1896 to 1963 being the last steamer in the St Louis area, it is really good she was preserved. No doubt the new boiler she received in 1923 helped with her long life.
ALLAN Glad you enjoyed the photos of Sutherland and Bittern. I will thank Alan. Thinking about it, it is amazing now how some classes of steam locomotives turn up in places they were never seen in at the time of everyday BR steam, like Great Western Kings and Halls and Southern pacifics at Carlisle, Duke of Gloucester at Penzance and A4s at Exeter, long may it continue.
Yes Tom and I was lucky to find that bar, it was good to have friendly staff behind the bar everyone we saw behind the bar stopped for a quick chat or to say hello it really does make one feel welcome.
NICK Many thanks for the breakfast and the great photos. You truly live in a beautiful part of the country. I will always have good memories of that part of the world, having spent a bit of time around the Tenby area as a young man. Another part of getting my interest back in railways, as well as what I told Tom, was seeing D1000 Western Enterprise on Landore shed returning from Tenby and getting the 1971 edition of Ian Allan's Combine Volume from the bookstall on Swansea station.
JIM Many thanks for the kind words and glad you are enjoying the photos at the bar.
As Tom says if you should ever want to join us you will be very welcome.
CM3 I know what you say about knees, when I was young at work the old guys used to say, "You will pay for all that kneeling when you are older". I wished some days I had listened to them especially when wet weather is on the way.
Don't wish to tempt fate but I have yet to see an Amtrak locomotive failure on our line or one being assisted by a UP locomotive.
Glad you liked the photo of the Duchess, I am traveling behind her the first week I am over there so hopefully some more photos. The steam part of the trip is on her old West Coast Main Line from Crewe to Carlisle and return. It is good to know there is a Crewe in the Commonwealth of Virginia with a railway connection. The UK Crewe is a new town dating from the 1840s and I believe it takes its name from a local landowner. The nearest village to what became Crewe was named Monk's Coppenhall.
ERIC Glad you liked the photos of the Duchess and Bittern. I don't think we have an IKEA near us here, there are plenty in the UK I think.
It is good that out of a class of 5 T41s, two have been saved and a third is able to supply parts. Do they run railfan trips with the T 41s or are they on static display at the Swedish National Railway Museum.
Always enjoy seeing photos from the inside (and outside) of maintenance depots, many thanks. It seems that depot is kept very clean.
Well RUTH after that great breakfast from Nick, I had better get a round in.
Pete.
<TRE RDCs from the cab of a Dallas bound RDC - personal foto>
Been on-line ‘n noticed Pete came by - good time to put up some Acknowledgments . . .
Monday - September 22nd <all times Central daylite>:
Page 23 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:36 AM <10:36 EDT>: With my interest pretty much on the wane regarding sports - the weekend was glorious in other respects! Did manage to catch a bit of the sappy nonsense with the last game at Yankee Stadium. Tooooooooo much.
Still lay claim to not watching one NFL game <yet> . . . did watch snippets of the Cowboys-Packers game, but just couldn't maintain a focus. No, Boris - my eyeglasses are just fine! <geesh>
Hardball playoffs are taking shape - I'm still thinking the AL will wind up with another WS title . . . Angels have a fine team - BoSox are always a threat. Don't see much coming out of the NL, aside from the surprising ‘n well almost-balanced Cubs.
Hockey is beginning to wake up the winter-set <that's Moi!>
We too have had our increases in utilities - just a month ago we were recipients of a $22 per month increase in our natural gas bill - not due to use, but to their increased costs in providing us with the stuff. Hmmmmm. Have seen water, sewer ‘n trash collection also go up. Electric is next ‘n "they" say it's gonna be a whopper. <groan>
Thanx for acknowledging the Email - the movies - my fotos ‘n of course providing us with a bunch o' quarters ‘n a ROUND!
Page 23 - Eric <EricX2000> at 10:21 AM <8:21 AM Sandbox time>: You look BETTER in daylite! <grin> Good to have you aboard ‘n all I can say is live ‘n learn when it comes to trying to get "on" when the sky is dark ‘n Kalmbach's Gremlins are at work. <uh oh>
We have our ways <Ve haf our vays> ‘n you ARE being watched. <yikes> Terminal 4, then . . . well, perhaps not for public release! <oh oh>
The "thing" about so many of these takeovers - buyouts ‘n the like is that the people within the organizations assuming ownership are not always on top of their game when it comes to their decision making for CHANGE much less providing answers to legitimate questions. That was most evident in my reading of the information provided by gbrewer. Too bad though, for there'll be no turning back. Kiss steam goodbye along the GCR right-of-way . . .
Glad you enjoyed the week's movies at the Emporium. The first time I saw North to Alaska was when it was released ‘n was being shown at a theatre in Times Square, NYCity. I absolutely was enamored <nice word, eh > with the actress known as Capucine. 21 ‘n eager - that was me! <grin> Didn't find her in Alaska when I was there, though . . . <groan> Money Pit is a <hoot> ‘n if you can find it as a rental - do so. Really a funny flick - but a bit dated in terms of availability.
Really didn't see anyone at the MoT to ask questions of . . . although I'm sure there were a few volunteers strolling about . . . anyway, that GG1 would surely look great in Pennsy livery once again. From what we've all seen at that place, they do some fine restoration work. But as we also know, that takes lots of bucks, time ‘n talent.
Maintenance depot north of Stockholm looks cavernous . . . where are all the trains in foto #1 Maintained so WELL that they are out on the line, eh
Appreciate the acknowledgment of my Email . . .
Okay Eric - what's THIS
Many thanx for your visit, good cheer ‘n ROUND!
Page 23 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:08 PM: A most welcomed, but rather confusing Post from our Resident Brit in Mid-Missouri. Breakfast at 3:08 PM Sorry, but the galley crew doesn't "do that" . . . in spite of you being the Bar Chandler! <geesh>
Appears that one of the topics we discussed over a brew or three was "answered" somewhat by the visit from that fellow from Connecticut. A rare event, fer sure, fer sure, when a "browser" comes along to say something nice . . . I think that's the 2nd such visit we've had in the 3 years plus that the bar has been in existence . . . think about it! Hmmmmm.
Steam in the blood, eh Guess I'll add that to the list of my maladies! <grin>
I always find something of interest when Perusing Past Pages at the bar . . . which I do quite regularly when researching material to entertain the crew. Never just pick something out without at least scrolling up ‘n down to see what was what back then . . .
Wonder from time to time what happened to this guy or that . . . but don't give it much more thought than that. After all, if one WANTS to maintain contact, one WILL. That's how I view it . . . I'm a firm believer in "I'm too busy," most times means, "Not interested." It's an easy way out - a phrase very well misused when not thought through . . .
Appreciate the acknowledgment of my Email ‘n the movies at the Emporium. Most of those flicks are in our VHS or DVD library. Most - not all. These latest are . . . both enjoyable, fer sure, fer sure.
I NEVER would've guessed that YOU had lost interest in railways - even for a day! Very surprised to read that revelation . . . glad you've returned to the "fold." <grin> We had a most different Christening - if you will. My love affair with trains began with electric trains <Lionel> as a kid. Pretty much remained that way to this day - but took a back seat to my career ‘n helping to raise 3 kids. Model trains <HO> came in the early 60s - but it was really hard to maintain any serious layout due to the transfers - which were often. Anyway, real trains were never anything more to me than a pleasure to travel aboard. Never got any more serious than that . . . again, my career pushed that all aside, as I either flew or drove to my next duty station. Just the way it was. Now of course, it's far, far different ‘n I'm happier for it.
Glad you made it "in" on this Monday - was quite a lengthy chat, surely could've made a couple out of it, eh Hmmmmm, that's probably why your breakfast order appears - you began it loooooooong ago! <grin>
Oh yeah, does this look familiar You left them at the Kirkwood station - unattended! <grin> The infamous BLACK BAG! <yikes>
ROUND appreciated!
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please.
Nick. Great breakfast menu, just a little of everything please! NZ is very similar to Wales in a lot of the scenic areas, the scenery changes so quickly with the land area being about the same area as the UK. The Aussie Commodore is a lot larger than the Opel model as the locals just love their straight six and V8 motors given the vast distances in Aussie. Nice pix of your local home area and Missisnick and Lily.
Eric. Looks as if i`ve missed out on a treat with their being no IKEA stores over here in NZ. Looking forward to that info on the narrow gauge rollingstock.
CM3. It would be great to be able to join all of you guys over in the States sometime that's for sure.
Pete. Your write up about locos` on foreign rails reminds me of the BR loco trials for a couple of years from 1948 when they did comparison trails on certain types of steam locos` which ended up with the evolution of the BR Standard Class locos`. Duffy`s bar sounds a real friendly place to visit, great shot of you at Kirkwood station in Tom`s photo post of your visit.
Jim. Nice to meet you in on a visit.
Tom. Thanks for the heads up e-mail. A very nice spread of random pix from your train travels over there. A couple of nice flicks for the weekend with one featuring Shelley Long of "Cheers" fame, she`s no relation to us though. Some very nice pix of Pete`s visit with you at home, good one of Pete with his black bag, Duffy`s pub, your 10 steam locos` and the StL MOT exhibits too. Sounds as if the crowd that took over the GC RR have got everything well sewn up to screw everybody moneywise.
See ya, Allan
It's THAT day of the week again - Tuesday <ugh> - most <blah> day of ‘em all, in my OH-PIN-YUN. Well, one thing that isn't <blah> is our galley where some fine preparation is underway to ensure your day begins with a pick-me-up! So, order up - fill the mugs ‘n grab a pastry . . .
What in the world happened last nite Found Boris 'n Leon sound asleep in the booth in the back in the corner where it's dark <paraphrased from Flip Wilson's daze> . . . Oh yeah, NOTHING - the place was morgue-like. Hmmmmmm.
Tuesday - September 23rd <all times Central daylite>:
Page 23 - Allan <Gunneral> at 12:11 AM <5:11 PM NZ time>: "In" with a rather different time for our friend from downunder in Kiwi-land! No matter when, pleased you've stopped by for a cold one . . . AND since your arrival was in the "morning" <our time> - you "qualified" for Nick's breakfast! <grin>
When Shelley Long was in Cheers, it was by far a better show than what followed. I really enjoyed that series - have ‘em on DVD - next to "Our" Place, my favorite bar! What a cast of characters. Not related Pity . . . thought you'd introduce her to the crew! <grin>
Yeah, isn't that the way of buyouts ‘n takeovers Bring out the LARGE screwdriver . . . <barf>
I've ALWAYS been enamored with the thought of visiting Australia ‘n New Zealand. Would dearly luv to spend several months downunder! That would be a treat beyond all treats! Alas, far too late along that life's continuum to take these dreams seriously. Shudda done it when I had the opportunities - and I had ‘em. Pretty much confirms the way I am today - NEVER put off - do it now, or you'll most times regret it later. OLD people know some things, eh <grin>
Many thanx for your visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Another pretty day here - low 50s this a.m. and supposed to be in the 70s by this afternoon.
A new Yogism from the other night on ESPN. "It's gone, but it will always be inside me."
Eric stopped by with comments and some shop pictures. The folks there do believe in housekeeping. Can you tell us a little more about the first photo you sent?
Allan was in with comments as well.
Pete - You are on target with what you say re not getting pictures, etc. I may have said this before but I knew I was getting old when I went to KY to do a presentation to an NRHS chapter. I had a bunch of 1st generation L&N material which I showed up and, after the show, somebody came up to me and said "I enjoyed the pictures of the RS3s - I never saw one run." So the advice is shoot the common stuff because that's what nobody else bothers with.
Crewe, on the Norfolk and Western, is approx 128 miles west of Norfolk, VA. As I mentioned, it was a helper base, but in 1950 it had eight passenger trains that stopped (four west and four east).
Train 15 "Cavalier" stopped at 1:40 a.m. This carried sleepers, diner lounge, and coaches. Train 3 "Pocahontas" stopped at 5:25 p.m. with sleepers, a diner, and coaches. Train 23 which stopped at 12:57 p.m. was a coaches only all stops run between Norfolk and Columbus.Train 25 "Powhatan arrow" stopped at 9:20 a.m. This was an all coach run between Norfolk and Cincinnati (all reserved) with a "Tavern lounge observation and a deluxe diner."
EastboundTrain 16 "Cavalier" stopped at 4:20 a.m.Train 4 "Pocahontas" stopped at 1:20 p.m.Train 24 Local stopped at 4:25 p.m.Train 26 "Powhatan Arrow" stopped at 9:30 p.m.
I'll stop here lest we get into a data dump. I can provide more if folks are interested.
OSP - Was that two black bags I saw in the picture (lol)? Know what you mean abt. natural gas prices. We're on a budget plan but every day I don't turn on the dollar bill eater in the basement, I get a little bit ahead.
Work Safe
Still waiting for that return to the bar from the guys who said they would . . . hmmmm. Anyway, Shane made it it "in," so all can't be that bad, eh
Here's another installment of fotos from the adventures of the Proprietor 'n Bar Chandler from last week . . . <of course CLICK to enlarge>
(1) Pete's train arriving at Kirkwood
(2) Mike Duffy's Pub
(3) Steamer display 'n Moi
(4) Some ED-U-MUH-KAY-SHUN <from StL MoT at Kirkwood>
(6) UP westbound right-of-way adjacent to StL MoT at Kirkwood
Enjoy!
Later <maybe!> It's "You Post, I Post" for Moi . . .
Ruth, I'm back! You surprise me with something good from the menu! Something you think I would like, please! Oh, don't forget my coffee. Black, please.
Did not even try last night. Since I am not working today I thought I should stop by for a while this morning.
Tom – The Interim Governor General seemed to be in good spirits when he arrived! Including his black bag! Mike Duffy’s is a new view I haven’t seen before. Same about the ten new locomotives and cabooses.I like the way they painted that steam locomotive at the Museum of Transportation! Different colors for different parts and a sign that tells the name and function of each part! Nice photos! The photo of the 6 TRE RDCs heading for Dallas makes me wonder how many RDCs do they have? Terminal 4 in Phoenix is perfect for picking up brunettes! The terminal and the parking garage are in the same building! So we walked straight to my car and drove away. No one could see us, the windows are tinted almost black (hard to see out, but...)! Same as Vito has on his armored cars!Yes, I agree,I think the new owners of GCR made a big mistake. No steam will reduce the number of riders, no doubt. Capucine, if that is the one I believe I can understand your feelings! A very good looking brunette!I am sure MoT will fix the GG1, even though it will take a number of years before it will happen. The maintenance depot north of Stockholm is a good size depot. That was my base as an engineer and road foreman. Your photo shows an Italian 3-phase AC locomotive! Why that ended up at MoT I don’t know. The entire design is very, very Italian. I saw the perfect photo for you today, check this link. It was posted in a Swedish train forum (yes I am a regular there) yesterday and I thought, this is something for Tom!http://postvagnen.com/forum/index.php?id=60096A nice collection of photos from different locations in your neighborhood, including the Can-Am room! I can see the TVs in Mike Duffy’s Pub are showing a baseball game. Reminds me that D-backs won last night! Pete – You remember the jailhouse well? Hmmm, I wonder why? From the inside or the outside? At least one of the T41 is used pretty often for special trains. When not being used they rest in a roundhouse. That depot, Hagalund, north of Stockholm is where I had my job as an engineer and road foreman. Allan – I must say I feel sorry for you! No IKEA!!! You are missing all the good stuff in life, like lingonberries and meatballs!! Next time you go to Australia you have to visit an IKEA store (and restaurant)! CM3 – What you see in the first photo on the floor at the far end of the building is a floor traverse. The traverse is used to move the locomotives sideways between the different tracks, see the plan below. It shows my positions when I took the two photos. The plan shows the actual building when it was built 1916.
Most pleased to have Eric aboard during the daylite hours - the mid-day <bar time> is PERFECT for your visits ‘n it would be IDEAL if you could give that a try - give or take an hour on either side.
Our continued success depends on guys who are DEPENDABLE. No doubt that you are definitely in that category - never have let us down, whether at home, work or across the pond. Really an asset, fer sure, fer sure!
REALLY liked that GREAT foto you found for MOI! Sure would like to "use it" from time to time ‘n request that you try to get permission for my use. Will of course give "credit" when used. Thanx!
More comments in my next round of Acknowledgments . . .
Time now for something from our sub-basement archives room . . .
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #19
Here's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:
Chicago & NorthWestern (C&NW)
<A form of this was initially Posted on 10 Oct 2005, Page 133 at "Our" Place I>
http://cs.trains.com/forums/129/991587/ShowPost.aspx
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Headquarters: Chicago, IL Mileage:1950 - 9,693 1955 - 5,000 Locomotives in 1963: Diesel - 744 Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars - 41.383 Passenger cars - 447
Principal lines in 1950:
Chicago-Fremont & Omaha, NE Fremont-Lander, WY Nelson, IL-Madison, Il (St. Louis) Chicago-Minneapolis, MN via Madison & Wyeville, WI Milwaukee-Rapid City, SD via Wyeville, WI & Mankato, MN Eau Claire, WI-Duluth,MN Chicago-Milwaukee via Kenosha, WI Chicago-Milwaukee via Bain, WI Milwaukee-Green Bay via Fond du Lac, WI Green Bay-Ashland, WI via Rhinelander Green Bay-Ishpeming, MI Powers, MI-Hurley, WI Minneapolis & St. Paul-Omaha via Mankato Lake Crystal (Mankato)-Des Moines, IA
Passenger trains of note:
Ashland Limited (Chicago-Green Bay-Ashland) Dakota "400" (Chicago-Madison-Huron, SD) Duluth-Superior Limited (Chicago-Madison-Duluth) Flambeau "400" (Chicago-Green Bay-Ashland) Kate Shelly "400" (Chicago-Boone, IA) North Western Limited (Chicago-St. Paul-Minneapolis) Peninsula "400" (Chicago-Green Bay-Ishpeming) Shoreland "400" (Chicago-Milwaukee-Green Bay) Twin Cities "400"(Chicago-St. Paul-Minneapolis) Valley "400" (Chicago-Green Bay-Menominee, MI) Of note: C&NW also was a forwarder for UP's streamliners and Domeliners (ie: City of Los Angeles, City of Portland) between Chicago & Omaha until Oct 1955.
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C&NW A-B-A Es <foto credit: unknown>
C&NW A-B-A Fs <foto credit: unknown>
Some drumheads of the C&NW
A pint of Bathams please RUTH
TOM Yes the post from Jim from Connecticut was a pleasant surprise, I hope those from Kalmbach happened to read his post, if only a few more who browse would do the same it would be good.
I think there were a lot of railfans in the UK who lost interest in railways when steam finished, but luckily a lot of enthusiasts turned their attention to preserving old lines and steam locomotives and getting them running again. We were fortunate that it was only 4 years that steam was banned from the BR main line, today 40 years after BR steam finished there are at least one steam special each week and regular steam hauled runs in this summer running in the Scottish Highlands, around the York area, and along the Mid Wales coast among other tours.
I see you got a photo of the black bag's best friend.
Many thanks for the photos from our recent trip. Good photo from the inside of Mike Duffy's pub and glad the photo I took of you came out OK.
I noticed on the wheel arrange information sign at the MOT most of the names for the different wheel arrangements were used in the UK as well, although we did not have any rigid engines with the larger arrangements, with just one class of 2-8-2 and one class of 2-10-0s. I don't recall the 4-4-0s being known as Americans in the UK and I can't recall a name for them. I am a bit surprised the museum does not have an example of a 2-6-2 ‘Prairie'.
Many thanks for the Passenger Fallen Flag on the Chicago & NorthWestern Railroad. I see the C&NW suffered a large loss of nearly half of their mileage between the years of 1950 and 1955. I noticed also that C&NW ran at least three named trains that went to Green Bay WIS, I don't think Green Bay as a passenger service at all today.
Enjoyed the photos and I think the North Western Limited is my favorite of the drumheads. I did read that there was still a locomotive running in the attractive C&NW livery but have not heard anything about it for a while.
ALLAN It must have been a great sight to have seen those Locomotive Exchanges in 1948,, can you recall which foreign engines you saw in the North East. I seem to recall a photo of A4s Mallard at London Waterloo and I think it was Lord Faringdon at Rugby Midland during the exchanges.
Kirkwood is still a great station keeping most of its old appearance both inside and outside. Keen volunteers run it and they have installed a loudspeaker system to give announcements to the passengers standing on the platform I had not noticed before my latest visit.
CM3 I very much agree about capturing the things that seem everyday today that can change all of a sudden. I guess in the old days when it was all film and sometimes with just 12 photos on a roll of film, there was a tendency to save the photos for a larger and classier locomotives. Reading your post made me think about when the Flying Scotsman ran through Rugby Central on a special, I think the year was 1964 or 65, and of course a lot of folks were out to take photos of her. I wondered how many took photos of the ordinary trains that were passing that day as well, I would bet not many.
Many thanks for the information on the passenger trains that called at Crewe on the N&W. I see the Powhatan Arrow carried one of those Tavern lounge observation car.
Did these passenger trains have to take a helper at Crewe or was the train engines able to cope with the grade. It would be good to hear what locomotives worked those trains in 1950.
ERIC I am sure Tom will enjoy the link to that scene of the railway line in the snow.
It is good to know that one of the preserved T41s get a run out now and then. Do they run trips in Sweden for railfans, that travel on lines that are usually used for freight only trains.
Many thanks for more photos of the depot at Hagalund, it looks as though the depot repairs the coaches as well as the locomotives there.
Running a bit late with these but the next ten Western Names
1031 WESTERN RIFLEMAN
1032 WESTERN MARKSMAN
1033 WESTERN TROOPER
1034 WESTERN DRAGOON
1035 WESTERN YEOMAN
1036 WESTERN EMPEROR
1037 WESTERN EMPRESS
1038 WESTERN SOVEREIGN
1039 WESTERN KING
1040 WESTERN QUEEN
Well RUTH after the Western names I had better get a round in, having a slight problem with my photo album so I'll take my Bathams and have a look at it again.
Evening team-just a `bookmark` whilst I catch up-Leon,a quick drop of the hard stuff for the company to keep out the evening chill (winter drawers on-so to speak.....)
back in a bit
Right,back again-have just been checking out the PPP feature page (which I am sure was selected deliberately) and am minded( another round of shorts please Leon) since it calls to mind memories of those taken from us (LYDIA ) as did the boss` reply to me ( TOM Jr) and my own dear ALAN, to propose a toast of " Absent friends,may they stay ever young......"
O.K-Leon,since you are still on your hind legs,I think a tray of beers here would be a convivial thing...and leave the brandy bottle as well please-top man
Before I start-a research question for PETE,ALLAN & DAN (if about) :- Looking for detail on B.R carriage liveries-specifically the Carmine/Cream -looking at my limited film library,this scheme seems to have lasted longest and been most common on the Eastern region-can any of you fill in gaps here-most of what I have suggests that it was only on odd vehicles in the south-west after about `60-Maroon for the Midland,a mix of that & Choc/Cream for the Western & Green for the Southern seem to be the order of the day-would be a shame,`cos I have a pair of coach sets that look rather well in it-and given my failing eyesight and shaky hands would rather not have to take the brush to.........Any advice welcome ...P.S-quick note to PETE-only ONE class of 2-10-0-was there not a W.D. class as well,or am I getting lost again.....
Right-post this then back soon
<End of the line at Gaspé - personal foto>
Time again for a catch up with the Acknowledgments . . . KUDOs to Nick for doing what I've been asking for - for months ‘n months! <see comments>
Page 23 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:17 AM <9:17 AM EDT>: Our Resident WVA Connection didn't let us down now that the roofing Gremlins have departed the scene, furniture removers ‘n replacers have done their "thing," ‘n whatever else keeps our friend from the bar - oh yeah, work. <geesh>
That's a fairly good adage to follow even in battle - "shoot the common stuff because that's what nobody else bothers with" - don't always go for the brass! <yikes> <grin>
Always interesting stuff regarding train consists ‘n skeds . . . definitely in keeping with the theme of the bar: Classic Trains of the real kind!
My book on Yogi-isms has been exhausted at least three go ‘rounds at the bars <I-II-III-IV> - so new ones are most appreciated. Every now ‘n then I look to see if a Part Deux has come out . . . the man is just a Classic ‘n a most genuine article at that!
We are also on budget plans - doesn't matter, the rate increases are just that - increases. We've done our part - lower the thermo in winter - raise it in summer - still paying through the nostrils for what used to be . . . <censored> I wasn't around when the Great Depression knocked America off it's pedestal - but perhaps, just perhaps, things are going to get worse-er than better-er. I don't think we've bottomed out . . . so best to have another drink - whilst one can afford it! <clink>
Speaking of - thanx for the ROUND ‘n quarters! All helps to keep the place in the black! And that BLACK BAG of Pete's is a one-of-a-kind. The other was his overnighter-er. The man just is getting a bit careless these days <daze>. <uh oh>
Page 24 - Eric <EricX2000> at 11:27 AM <9:27 AM Sandbox time>: What a GREAT foto of either real life or an artist's rendition! Surely would like to use that image a time or two here at the bar. Do you think you could get approval for me from whoever owns it I'd give proper credit, of course - but I'm hardly proficient in Swedish!
Snart ser vi den här synen translated to Soon we see this view. Is that close
MANY THANX, Eric! What a wonderful scene - I'd leave tomorrow morning if I knew that it would be awaiting me upon arrival . . . perhaps even one of the ABBA gals too. <grin>
One doesn't have to see inside the vehicle in order to find out what's going on - that's what listening devices are for! <uh oh>
I'm not sure <yet> what terminal we'll be arriving at, but I'll be sure to keep Carol away from #4 . . . wouldn't want her thinking that ALL of those brunettes are waiting for Moi! <geesh> <grin> For whatever the reason, she holds you in high regard - Moi, she accepts as a sailor who has been landlocked. <groan>
Excellent info <diagram ‘n additional fotos> of the Swedish railways maintenance facility!
So, you KNEW about that Italian electric loco, eh Can't fool you! There's nothing in the MoT guidebook nor was there a descriptive sign . . . hmmmmm. Pete said it was Italian as well. Hmmmmmm. A conspiracy afoot! <yikes>
TRE purchased 13 former VIA Rail RDCs in 1993. They were rebuilt <from the frame-up> in Montréal before being transported to Dallas. Click the link for more . . .
http://www.trinityrailwayexpress.org/trerollingstock.html
Page 24 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:19 PM: Another fine < I3 > Post from our Interim Governor General!
Having PhotoBucket problems Hope whatever the situation is doesn't leave you with the loss experienced by Rob. He lost everything Posted on the Forums . . . If I can help - let me know.
Can't offer any rationale behind the absence of a Prairie loco . . . assuming you are referring to that "chart" I made a foto of. Perhaps there's a relic somewhere in the stock . . .
Just "click" on the stations served by Amtrak, ‘n your answer to the Green Bay query will be obtained. So many cities once with thriving passenger terminals <Phoenix comes to mind> are now without. <sad>
Dragoon - now there's a name for a train! <grin>
I don't believe the PA system at Kirkwood is new - for several years ago, there was a similar system in use. Perhaps they either just decided to turn it on or had it fixed. A nice touch, though . . .
Good Post to eavesdrop - glad you enjoyed the fotos from our get together - there will be more.
Thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 24 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 5:19 PM <11:19 PM GMT>: Now THAT's the way to do it! A "bookmark" whilst compiling your comprehensive Post! Even made the proper greeting ‘n ordered a bit o' something for the crew! Wish somehow that idea could get "across" to all . . .
Page 24 - Nick <nickinwestwales at 6:24 PM <12:24 AM Wednesday GMT>: Back so soon - so figured I'd <edit> this IN!
HONEST - those PPP referal links have NO ulterior motivations - zip, zero, zilch. If something flicks a switch - either way - so be it. Glad you perused, though!
A toast to lost loved ones, friends 'n friends of friends! <clink>
Second visit along with another ROUND makes for a warm glow inside 'n out!
Sorry about that-called away for `Union meeting`-as company consisted of self,PETE,Boris and some spotty herbert with a plastic cape and halloween teeth claiming to represent Count Robulla,was able to declare the meeting inquorate and return to the serious business of the night -drinking irresponsibly -Leon-could I have $20 worth of quarters please-lets have a wee remembrance of Rick Wright-everything on Herr Wurlitzer from the Pink Floyd canon-all the albums,back to back....
Hmmm-to business-now where did I leave off..?..
Ahh-yes..
ERIC-Tricky things hammers.....especially when one is at full stretch lying on a sloping roof.....and 2.5 inch nails don`t help-if you don`t hit `em dead on they sort of twist -and ALWAYS the wrong way-is possibly a metaphor for life in there somewhere......Delightful N.G stock-especially taken by the number on the side of the chimney-would be interested to know more about the whole lot .....R.E the Opels,I do believe you have the right of it-they also had a small saloon model called the Kadet over here-not much of a car buff (bikes more my thing) but seem to recall that ,as ALLAN noted,they were re-badged Vauxhalls-but have it in mind the Opels were the `hot tuned` models.......Glad you enjoyed the pix-that is the main A40 trunk road <joke>-is actually a little dead -end lane-you can just see where the main drag crosses it at the end-looking the other way it runs up to an old castle that looks like Ghormenghast-real quaint old Welsh town-you would love it.....R.E tides-see note to TOM
PETE-Welcome home-glad you had a good trip -We like it when this happens...Cracking pix of the `old girl` and the streak-altho looks odd with a `toad` in the background.....Bowes Rly film is a delight-as much for the characters interviewed as anything else -would send it if I could...R.E-Ffestiniog-agree-the dark red is the only way-looks `right`...model pix-You have a keen eye-the Landore`37 is taking a west Wales excursion up for a Grand Slam decider at Twickers and the `45 has been put on at Newport along with extra coaches (a convienient way of returning her after working in with steel coil loads..... ) to cover the extra load......the 3f was a Templecombe engine according to the I.A book-only have film of her working trains on the branch but in my world she is available for the daily pick-up to Bath and back.........By the by-Landore is ,I believe now just a set of storage sheds-the 2nd to last time I passed it was home to the fleet of mail service `47`s and stock-the time before they were using it for `43 services.....very sad
TOM-What ho mate -Had a feeling that glimpse we had earlier was an O.N R.S 10-some fine pix from you-yet again-where would we be without our man ...?
Now-you mentioned tides on the river-as did ERIC-well-am not an expert,but as I understand it,the Cleddau <Cleth-I> {Welsh for `double bladed sword}-the upper reaches of the Milford Haven waterway ,has the 3rd highest tidal reach in the world-behind the bay of Fundy and the Severn estuary-the pix(poor quality but the light was going) show a high of 7.4 metres-I believe we had a 7.8 the other week but that was with an onshore wind and so much rich brown runoff it looked like the Mekong delta-If anyone knows better I would love to be corrected on this BTW......Normal tides run from nothing to about 4-5 metres from high to low.....hope this helps
Train colours-actually I do rather like this new liberalism-one of the things that turned me onto N. American training was the loud brash colours -having grown up with dull blues and (from earliest memories ) greens and dull grey and brown freight cars, all of the rainbow of N.A liveries was hugely refreshing-the same cars but all different-wonderful ...Now museum #724-each livery represented-?
SHANE-Thank you for the kind thoughts -hammers are the devils work..........glad you enjoyed the pix,-as with your knee,my left hand-thumb-arthritic-knuckle double size-almost no use,index finger-lucky so far,courting finger (ahem) -end joint splattered by maul-still usable(just) -ring finger -kitchen accident-end joint sewn back on-still works but doesnt straighten ,pinkie-arthritis again -usable but can only cover top 2 strings on guitar-my take-if Django Rheinhart can do it -so can I.-is all about adapting says I...........-Now Elkins-that name rings a bell-big sorting yard for coal traffic ?-
O.K boys-thats most of me-one last point-ALLAN-Lily isnt my littlun-although I wish she was......My one is Hannah(on the right )
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She looks rather startled here but with Hannah to look after her-no worries -they are the sweetest pair of poppets one could wish for -and big brother Barney is a cool kid as well-happy families..........
O.K guys-take care now-speak soon
A better picture-3 little monkeys just waiting for me to turn my back-thank goodness the holidays are over.............
Was a long six weeks-we`ve all been there.....
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, a ham sandwich and a cold Tuborg Gold, please!
A last stop before hitting the sack. Working the next two days and that will stop my daylite visits.
Tom – I’ll try to stop by sometime around noon on my days off. After Oct 30 I it’s going to be easier for me to come in at that time. This week I am working two days, Wednesday and Thursday as I mentioned above. I’ll send a mail tomorrow to the guy who took that snowy picture and ask him if you can use it. Your translation is right on! I didn’t know that you speak Swedish! That guy just wanted to remind everybody what is coming up pretty soon. Snow and ice!!! Not here in the desert though!!! What airline are you flying to and from Phoenix? I know what terminal each airline “belongs” to. Listening device? in my car? I checked, there was no listening device!I wish I had pictures showing the entire maintenance facilties north of Stockholm. I’ll see if I can find any. There is one more picture below.The Italian locomotive is listed on page 34 in the MoT guide book. Top of the right column. Thanks for the link to TRE’s web site! A lot of information!Pete – You are right, Green Bay doesn’t have any passenger service today. They run fan trips on all kinds of lines in Sweden, including freight only lines. Coaches are normally maintained in other buildings at the depot outside Stockholm.Nick – I know everything about hammers and tricky nails! Using a hammer always includes Murphy’s Laws! Thanks for the info on the pictures! I’ll probably will have the info on the narrow gauge equipment on Friday. 4-5 meters tide is also a lot of water coming in.
Hagalund, Stockholm.
Round for the house!
Wednesday's Witticism
You'll never find a hired gun sittin' on his gun hand.
Mid-week once again in mid-continent USA where the aroma of breakfast goodies fills the air at "Our" Place . . . Coffee is fresh as are the pastries, so what's the delay in beginning your day right here
Page 24 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:38 PM ‘n 9:03 PM <2:38 AM ‘n 3:03 AM GMT>: The man never sleeps!<Or at least, never sleeps when the rest of us do.> Most happy fella, regardless of the hour - but he's a Nite Owl, fer sure, fer sure!
Ya see it goes like this, organized labor ‘round here is like shoveling sand against the incoming tide. Just doesn't work . . . <grin>
And mention of Count Robulla brings to mind some disparate thoughts. Just find it perplexing that he hasn't been able to "pop in" even for a brief respite. <sad>
Just a thought - a pity we can't get the Wolfman to peek in during the nite hours, every now ‘n then he might be able to get on a "real time" exchange . . . BUT, the support from our Interim Governor General is something depended upon ‘n he'll surely be missed once we "release" him back to the auld sod. <groan>
That's an amazing tidal differential in the Cleddau - might think about a concession for surf boarding when tides change! <yikes> I've seen ‘em at the Bay of Fundy <Sackville, New Brunswick> ‘n it's truly an amazing site to witness. Fifty feet differentials ain't nothin' to sneeze at. Also while in Alaska <Kodiak> there were some awesome changes. Made it most difficult to crawl "up" or "down" the gangway when returning the ship from the club(s) . . . <uh oh>
A link to the Bay of Fundy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Fundy
Yeah, that Georgia Railroad #724 surely comes close to replicating the colors of the RR spectrum! <grin>
I've always associated north American steamers with the shade of black whereas looking at those fine beasts from your part of the globe came in colors <colours>! Different strokes, eh Now that I'm one foot into becoming a steam-addict, I'm much more appreciative of ‘n for the differences!
Description of fingers made mine hurt even more! Courting Hmmmmm. Now there's always something new to pick up on ‘round here! <grin> Amazing you can manipulate those frets - much less anything else!
A house becomes a home with lil' ones in it. Fine fotos, Mate!
As always, much appreciation for the effort you put forth to entertain the crew ‘round here. Never at a loss for words or material - always good stuff! ROUNDs help immensely too - puts everyone at ease.
Wednesday - September 24th:
Page 24 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:14 AM <11:14 PM Tuesday Sandbox time>: Ahhhhh, Page 34 of the MoT guidebook . . . just didn't catch it! Thanx . . .
Hoping that the guy who took that wonderful winter scene will permit me to use it every now ‘n then - I'll certainly not abuse the privilege.
With Wolfman gone during October, it's going to be really a difficult time during day lite. For it ONLY Shane shows up - that means I'm relegated to one Post per session <not counting the AM Acknowledgments> - which will surely cut down on material. Anyway, whenever you can make it "in" when the sky is other than black - would really appreciate it! We are now down to a precious FEW who can be DEPENDED upon. Next stop may indeed be our last - sad to say. Beginning to get that feeling of being the concessionaire for deck chairs aboard the Titanic . . . <uh oh>
Nice shot of the electrics ‘n coaches . . . those overhead wires kinda ruin the scene - BUT of course without ‘em, nothing MOVES! <grin>
We are flying Southwest, non-stop from here to Phoenix - return trip is also non-stop. Next time you come this way, you may wish to check out SWest . . . why change planes if you don't have to Anyway, I'll send our arrival info to you by Email as the time gets closer.
I saw a device advertised on the web where you speak a phrase into it ‘n the translation comes out through a speaker. One for every major language on the planet. Amazing thing, fer sure, fer sure. I'd probably buy one <expensive> if I were to make a trip to a country where I had no proficiency at all with the tongue <Sweden>. Glad my translation was spot-on . . . the stuff you can find on the web is truly without rival, eh
If you should ever accompany me on a Canada Rail Adventure, we'll definitely have to stop in Sackville, New Brunswick - the Bay of Fundy tide change is a "must" to witness. Have a good friend there who is most receptive to showing me this ‘n that in ‘n around his town. Nice guy ‘n really nice place to see.
Of course you didn't find any listening device - it wasn't attached or installed to your car. It's a hi-tech eavesdropping receiver that picks up signals from distances up to 500 ft - as clear as a bell! Heard every <gasp> word, giggle ‘n . . . <uh oh>
Tack för att stödja bar och för runda!
Eric - Aha! A transfer table. I thought it might be that but wasn't sure. The plan you sent enlarged fine. Thank you. The picture at the electrics at Hagalund- Stockholm is great! Lots of detail. Any more information about the sleepers in the background? From what I could read it appears that they are assigned to a particular train?
Pete - N&W passenger trains back in the day got J class 4-8-4s (well known to most everyone) or K class 4-8-2s. The N&W dieselized fairly late in the game so you will not find F units or E units on their passenger trains when the diesels came. That being said, as my old Latin teacher used to remark, "There's always an exception." They did borrow some E units for awhile (IIRC from ACL) as they were waiting for passenger geeps to be delivered. Every time I rode their trains, however, it was behind geeps, except for the excursions I rode that operated behind 611 (a "J"). Helpers were on coal for the most part. I must find Boris, have him fill the carbide lamps, and we will look for N&W material in the archives.
Nick - A Pink Floyd marathon? Why not? I remember Kadets - the idea of a "hot tuned" Opel; well..... Gibe the Man from Wales one of his choice and a Marsh-Wheeling to accompany same (Awk, they're in the orange and blue box under the bar, right beside the shotgun). Elkins was a big coal operation on the Western Maryland. IIRC, the most recent Classic Trains has a piece on WM in that part of West Virginia. The area around Black Rock Falls is spectacular.
Django - excellent! Have lots of his work on vinyl. Let me see, ah here it is "Clouds" on the jukebox. Let's play that one. Amazing how he could o all of that on a guitar. Looking at your pictures, all I can say there's a lot of energy in the room - I can imagine that all walls are in play once they get started.
OSP - Nice collection of CNW material. Glad you cleared up the bag perplex, but I think there's an RDF on one of them - it sure don't look like no handle to me (grin). The Yogism was on ESPN's tribute to Yankee Stadium. As an update, I am working may way through the book - will keep you posted. Maybe you can get Pete a trench coat, appropriate hat, etc. and turn him into a foreign correspondent? I know, how will he fit the coat and hat into the bag?
Shane made it "in" thereby springing loose this from me - "You Post, I Post!"
(1) Continuing ED-U-MUH-KAY-SHUN at the StL MoT <Kirkwood>
(3) MoPac mainline caboose at StL MoT <Kirkwood>
(5) An old friend - RI AeroTrain at StL MoT <Kirkwood>
(6)
Good Afternoon Captain Tom and Crew!
Since I packed on about 5 pounds last month on the high seas I'll just have a coffee...
Finally made it in and clear of the paper work and... Off for 6 weeks before I join my next assignment. There is a formidable Ta-Do list that awaits and requires my attention over the next several weeks.
Kudos once again to the prolific ones Between all the photos and narratives I find myself rather cross-eyed... Maybe I'll have that beer after all.
Tom: Excellent case for the locos. very proffessional looking. Love the pic of the Gaspe Terminus and yes I can say "Been There but not by train". Alos enjoyed the history lesson on narrow guage
Pete: Nice photoes as well and I have to say, You DO look rather "happy" in that photo or is it just the Bantham's?
Well I must run (as usual) so have one on my tab and enjoy. I'll be posting some of my Arctic pics in the not so distant future. I'll keep ya posted!
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Relief comes in all measures at this Tavern by the Tracks. Many thanx Fergie for the life-line - I'm hardly enthused these days when I see that those who CAN, WILL NOT! <barf> This submission was totally predicated on having someone make a Post . . . I'm sure you didn't know that - but it came at the right time - for today!
Sorry but our coffee is FREE only when ordered with some food. So <KaChing> that's a five dollar mug you've ordered! <gulp> ENJOY! <yikes> But take heart, Mate - refills are FREE!
For planning purposes - IF we survive the month of October - our Annual Dart's Challenge ‘n Grudge Match with The Second Class Saloon goons will take place on November 6th thru 8th <Thurs thru Sat> with the opening set at "Our" Place.
If you wish to participate - send me an Email ‘n I'll assign you to a team. We'll try to put forth two teams of two - with an alternate if interest permits. Shane is invited to pick up his quill pen ‘n do the honors of being our Ace Reporter. Again - please let me know by Email. Thanx . . .
Wednesday's at the Bar by the Ballast are most times reserved for presentation of our Toy ‘n Model Trains! It's an OP-SHUN-UL event - but followed by our decreasing number of stalwarts. So here's a few more from my modest HO steam collection in the Can-Am Trainroom . . .
(1) Ten steam locos w/cabooses in the display case <recently viewed>
(2) The Proprietor ‘n Chief Operator of the Can-Am Railway <recently viewed>
(3) CN 2-8-2 "Mikado" steam powered freight on the Can-Am Railway
(4) Test run of a B&O 2-10-2 "Santa Fe" w/caboose rounding the bend
(5) CN 2-8-2 "Mikado" freight approaching "Our" Place Junction
<Note: apologize for the blur - still not adept at catching moving trains in close-up mode>
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
TOM That is a great photo of the end of the line at Gaspe.
I agree the loudspeaker at Kirkwood is a great touch; it is good how they knew the Amtrak was just a few minutes away. I wonder if they were just going by the timetable or they had other information.
Had a look at Green Bay and it seems there is a bus connection if one wanted to go, say, to Chicago, although can't understand the 5: 10 AM start and over a 3-hour wait in Milwaukee for the train. Looking at the station list brought a thought to mind, I wonder which is the largest city in the U.S. without an Amtrak service nowadays
Thanks for the link to the Bay of Fundy, certainly an interesting part of the world.
I wonder how that translation device would get on with my accent, better than Amtrak's Julie I hope.
Many thanks for the photos from the MOT. I think Nick may question the part in the board on the Narrow Gauge where it says the first NG line was in Norway in 1862 as the Ffestiniog in Wales opened on 1836 and Wikipedia says it was carrying tourist passengers by 1850.Still that and the board on the Standard gauge is very interesting.
It is good one of the last cabooses has been saved, I bet many cabooses had a lot longer life than the 20 years Mo-Pac # 13889 had.
Great to see the photos of the new steamers on the Can-Am after my recent visit to see them in the flesh. It is great how the CN Mikado looks really at home with the diesels on the freight.
NICK May I join you in the toast to absent friends.
That is an interesting question on the BR carmine and cream livery, I can just recall seeing coaches in that colour but I must have been very young. I wonder if the coaches were taken to works just for re-painting before they were due an overhaul. I would be interested in any info you do find out on this subject. It does seem odd that on the Midland region there was maroon, green on the Southern with chocolate and cream for the Western yet the Eastern region was not allocated a colour.. I found this link to the MkIs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Railways_Mark_1
Yes Shame on me, there was the ex War Department class of 25 2-10-0s taken into BR stock. I noticed they were classified 8Fs like there 2-8-0 WD brothers, not 9F like the BR built 2-10-0s.
Glad you enjoyed the photos of the Duchess and Bittern. Thinking about the 37 on the train made me wonder if all the 37s were built with train heating boilers as they done a fair bit of passenger work in their early days. There used to be a tour company that ran rail tours nearly every weekend from March To October and Rugby was a stop for the majority of them. One regular was a trip to Barry with time there to visit the scrapyard or Barry Island, outward by Cardiff the special returning by the Vale of Glamorgan line bypassing Swansea and up the Central Wales line. Often it was a class 37 on the Barry to Wolverhampton part of the trip.
It is a shame to read about Landore today, I can recall the shed full of Western, Hymeks and class 37s.
Great photos of Hannah and her friends.
ERIC It is a pity Green Bay does not have a passenger service. Luckily the station still survives, last time I was there it is a Brew Pub and Restaurant.
It is good to hear they run enthusiasts tours in Sweden, I sure someone could make some money over here running them with hired coaches and freight locomotives on some non-passenger lines.
Many thanks for the photo of Hagalund depot. B 279 looks an older electric locomotive and they look like Wagon-Lits cars on the far left.
CM3 Many thanks for the information on the passenger locomotives through Crewe W.Va. I guess there was not many class 1 railroads that did not have F units or E units or the Alco equivalent on their passenger trains at one time. I bet it must have been a great experience traveling behind N&W ‘J' # 611. I sure Nick will know for sure, but I think the Somerset & Dorset stayed all steam until the line closed in the mid 1960s. The Great Central was still majority steam hauled until its closure as a through route in 1966, one exception was the York to Poole which was diesel hauled in the last few years.
I see in a British railway magazine there is a glowing report of a North American Railway book called 'The Call of Trains: Railroad photography by Jim Shaughnessy'. I don't know if it out here yet.
Yes the black bag is getting excited as it nears the time it will cross the Atlantic again.
FERGIE Great to see you back at the bar, have a very enjoyable 6 weeks off.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. Unfortunately I can't get Bathams over here, apart from at Our Place. The nearest I have had to Bathams over here, is a beer called Blonde Ale which Tom and I had at the Lewis and Clarke in St Charles which was brewed locally.
Looking forward to your photos from the Arctic.
Well RUTH a round please.
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Thought I'd stop by as I had a couple of minutes.
Fergie has returned from the frozen north. Gald to hear from you.
OSP - Steam looks at home on the Can-Am.
Pete - Call of Trains will be released in November; preordered mine at Amazon yesterday. Shaughnessy, in addition to being a premier photographer, is author of two excellent books on the Delaware and Hudson and another on the dearly departed Rutland - two must-haves for your collection if you don't own them already.
Have a good evening and I'll see y'all tomorrow.
work safe
CM3 Thanks for the round. It sounds that Call of Trains will be a book well worth having .I will have to order one when I return just in case it came before I get back. I though it was a good offer on Amazon.
I have shown one of these photos before but I though I would show all 5. They were taken by Alan on May 26th 2008 at a gala on the Rhyl Miniature Railway. Thanks to Alan for the notes on the engines as well.. I sure Allan will enjoy the photos and I hope they will bring back good memories of the area.
First photo is of No.105 MICHEAL, resident engine awaiting overhaul.
No. 102 RAILWAY QUEEN at front and No. 106 BILLY behind. Billy is a resident engine usually on display.
In the next 3 photos No. 103 JOHN leads No. 101 JOAN. John is privately owned, Joan is a resident engine in steam .
Railway Queen returned to Rhyl in 2007.
There were 6 engines built, 4 for Rhyl Miniature Railway. Built by Albert Barnes all 6 still exist.
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<remnants of winter en route Gaspé - personal foto>
What had all the makings of a blah day at the bar, during daylite, turned out to be far better-er than average. So, many thanx to those who tried to calm my concerns. Makes all the difference in the world when one gives that Rat's Patoot!
So, here's my catch-up round of Acknowledgments, before the nite crowd trickles in . . .
Wednesday - September 24th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 24 -CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:29 AM <9:29 AM EDT>: Petrol "dropped" to $3.66 <rounded> yesterday in these parts . . . who knows what's next, eh
Good to see ya this AM ‘n know you are pleased that the BoSox are "in" - Cards are "out" - OH-FISH-UL-LEE in spite of dropping the Snakes of Arizona a bit deeper behind the Dodgers. Wondering - but not too much - if the ChiSox will make it - they've kinda been foundering <not the fish - that's a fLounder>
Antenna Hmmmmm, might just be on to something there - after all, the Wolfman does have MANY sides. Hmmmmm. Maybe one of those sets of faux eyewear with nose ‘n mustache - yeah, that would work! <grin>
Interesting eavesdropping - always pick up a bit more insight regarding our Resident WVA Connection . . . benefit of being the bar keep I suppose.
Thanx for the visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 24 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 12:25 PM <2:25 PM ADT>: Home is the sailor ‘n we're most pleased to have you back with us.
Sorry ‘bout that five dollar mugga Joe - but even YOU shudda known . . . <grin>
Looking forward to some fotos from the arctic . . .
Glad you liked the steamer collection - kinda "instant," but effective. The idea was to have ‘em moreso than run ‘em. What's money for other than to satisfy one's desires, eh MINE, of course!
There's scores of great fotos ‘n associated material on the Pages Past . . . so even if you cannot get A-ROUNDTUIT insofar as commenting on each ‘n every one - do avail yourself of the opportunity to scan thru ‘em. For once this joint shuts down - all of my fotos will get expunged . . .
Catch ya later ‘n enjoy your in-port. Lots of "honey-dos" ‘n other things on your "list," fer sure, fer sure. Thanx for your ROUND - ‘n by the by, we received your allotment electronic transfer, paying off your tab! Whataguy . . .
Page 24 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:47 PM: Our Bar Chandler arrived with a lot to offer ‘n much to absorb.
Don't know what to say regarding any discrepancy found with the StL MoT information. What is provided on those signs is also within the guidebook. I wouldn't take Wikipedia as Gospel . . . they've been known to be wrong in the past. But I surely am in no position to refute what you say, nor am I doing so. Perhaps someone will take it upon themselves to research it further . . .
As I understand it, when Amtrak discontinued rail service to many cities, bus service was established throughout the country. There are examples of it even in Missouri - as there's a bus connection running from KCity to Omaha for those wanting to catch the California Zephyr.
I think you'd probably cause that translator device to TILT! <uh oh> <grin>
I'll be retaking some of those steamer shots on the Can-Am Railway . . . gotta figure out how to get the depth of field straightened out . . . never a problem with my old 35mm. Ya know, I really think the quality of fotos were far better-er with those gems than these digitals. But, today's society wants FAST - so I suppose what one gains in speed, one gives up in clarity. No doubt there are many out there who'd like to argue the point. I'm not debating - just saying that my experiences haven't been all that impressive.
I like right-of-way shots too - ‘n that one from Gaspé tells the tale, eh
We'll have to visit the Lewis & Clark Public House once again . . . surely was a great place to wait for the gals, eh
Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 24 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 3:25 PM <4:25 PM EDT>: A surprise in the form of a 2nd visit from WVA.
Just when it appeared we were becalmed - along comes a flurry. Isn't that the way Hope springs eternal, or something like that . . . for such a small group, it's so very hard to keep things active - but this crew seems to find a way.
Hope you're getting to view the shots from last week's extravaganza with the Wolfman. Some of those shots should bring back memories . . .
Received your Email - thanx for volunteering for the Ace Reporter's assignment for our Annual Dart's Challenger ‘n Grudge Match! I'm expecting that it will be like pulling hen's teeth to get a quorum . . . some guys just think they actually have to DO something! <geesh> YOU are the one with the work load. <geesh>
Thanx for the double-dose of quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 24 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4 PM: Back with Part Deux!
I checked out Call of Trains on amazon.com - looks like a keeper. Especially like those that are done in two shades - somehow it's better that way. It will be added to my Wish List . . . Thanx for the tip . . .
Appears you resolved the PhotoBucket situation as your miniature railway fotos came through just fine! Most appropriate selection for our Wednesday Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!
Thanx for the 2nd ROUND!
Well good evening everybody ( finally ) for some unknown reason likely gremlins of the "microchipped variety"I wasn't able to log on yesterday of Monday putting me that much farther behind.Mind you it's a good thing that I'm a few pages behind as it shows theer is lots o life in the ole girl yet To log in finally I had to change the ole password woerd but whatchagonnado I'll catch up as time and space allows.First off thanks for everyones patience ( I'm sure that Tom was almost a the end of his ) to make up Leon all the food n drink for the rest of the weeks on me,I'll even pay off ten percent of Pete's bartab There goes the bonus cheque I got from work for my twenty years with the company that I recieved last week.
At any rate the good news is I'm back, the somewhat better news is that even thougbh I had announced a complete not going to be around for next week,I may indeed be able to check in ( gremlin problems not withstanding )We have decided to do a bunch of small day trips over the coarse of the week insetdead of the several days away from the homestead type of vacation )
I have to say agin folks thanks for the understanding even if it was through clenched and knashing teeth.Septemer is the worst month for retail.All the fall layouts and religns have to be done ( hence my week of midnights asile moves and religns can't be done during open hours )Then there was yesterday's tortuous hiring seminar for the Christmas staff,never fun to have eight hours of interviewing the mass of populous,one see's all kinds and hears all sorts of odd things Next week we begin training the new lot and hope they pan out <ugh>thankfully I'll miss that part
So to the bar hmmm
Tom-I noticed many a fine photo of yourself and the new additons today looking good ( the trains not you )Nice to see that Shane and Nick and Even Dan have all checked back in since my short absence and the return of our intrepid Kiwi as well As I said I'll give a more thorough run through as time and reading permits,just wanted everyone to know that I'm alive and kicking
Rob
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