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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:01 AM

<AeroTrain at MoT, Kirkwood, MO - personal foto>

 

 

 

Reminder: "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs

<but go ahead ‘n slip your messages thru the mail slots on the doors!>

 

 

 

A smile to begin the week! <since I won't be here to kick off the week . . . .>

Someone in the dugout said, "Yogi, you're ugly," and Yogi's response was, "So? I don't hit with my face."

<A Yogi-ism!>

 

 

G'day Gents!

Yes, it's Sunday once again - the bar is CLOSED, but it's my time to get a few things squared away before the new work week <for many> begins in earnest tomorrow!

Boris ‘n the gang love this day, as they get free ‘romping rights' to the place, then of course later on we head off to Can-Am Gorge for the weekly marauding through the wilds. <yikes>

 

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HELP requested during daylite on Monday ‘n maybe Tuesday - Thanx! Thumbs Up [tup]

Good news! RR BOOK RELAY 2008 made it safely to Nick in west Wales! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

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Saturday - July 19th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 57 - Pete <pwolfe> at 12:21 PM: Next time you see English Bob, tell him that you've researched the flag regulations he ranted on about . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/04C1.txt

<scroll down to Section 7, Position and manner of display . . . .>

 

There's all kinds of resources out there in the Ether - but best to get it from a ".gov" source. Wonder why that entire subject is soooooooo important to him, aside from the fact that he took seriously that which was assigned to him during his working career. Oh well . . .

Fine < I3 > Post for Saturday, although there surely wasn't much going on ‘round here, eh Question [?] Figured it would be that way - expect more of the same as summer drags on ‘n on ‘n on . . . .<ugh>

Many thanx for the visit, was beginning to think I'd be doing a solo . . . Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 57 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:38 PM: Back as promised, with part deux! Thumbs Up [tup]

Believe you are correct regarding the old Union Hotel ‘n the larger waiting room at the JCity Amtrak depot . . . read that somewhere. Might be in that little booklet I gave you sometime ago listing all of the stops along the StL-KCity route . . . What Question [?] You can't find it!!! Check your black bag! <grin>

Fine spate o' five fotos! Thumbs Up [tup] All excellent shots, but I'm mighty impressed with that monster 2-10-0! Wow!! [wow] Some beast on the rails, fer sure, fer sure! Bow [bow]

Figured out what your schedule was yesterday <Saturday) . . . just looking at the time of this Post - the "opening hour" ‘n a certain someone's return . . . . however, I won't reveal it here in the Ether! BUT I'm "onto" you ‘n your wicked ways, Mate! <uh oh>  Can take Englishman out of the Pub,  but can't take the Pub out of the Englishman  - or something like that! <grin>

Spent FAR TOO MUCH TIME trying to find that web site you told me about for Pat's Place - little did I know that the  proper name  is Paddy Malone's Irish Pub . . .<geesh> I should <tweet> you a gudun for that "little" omisson! Fortunately for YOU, the <tweeter> doesn't get out of the chocks 'til I do! <uh oh>

http://www.paddymalonespub.com/drinks.html

Thanx for the two-fer, ROUND ‘n Email! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Oh yes, this one's for YOU! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

 

 

Page 57 - Eric <EricX2000> at 8:06 PM <6:06 PM Sandbox time>: Kinda lost me with that reference to Pete's foto with a water fountain . . . methinks you've confused mine with his. Anyway . . . the Amtrak station in JCity has a very large waiting room - the one in the foto is more like an ante-room. The station is unmanned - meaning no Amtrak employees are assigned there. Volunteers work the station prior to, during ‘n after train arrivals ‘n departures - then the larger waiting room gets locked. That's pretty much the same way Kirkwood is - although they do leave the doors unlocked during daylite - it is a historic landmark that gets lots of attention ‘n security from the police dept. directly across the tracks.

To be perfectly honest, I could NOT handle a steady routine of the noise level in that Pub . . . way, way too noisy for my liking. Had a grand time, but it was good that I'm accomplished at reading lips! <grin> Oh yeah, there was a brunette sitting at a table adjacent to ours that was looking for YOU!!! No kidding . . . <uh oh>

Of course Wolfman will continue on as our Bar Chandler - he is very, very attentive to his call to DUTY! Shouldn't be a problem, as no one will understand any of his proclamations as Interim Governor General anyway! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

All fine shots ‘n the clarity is superb! Bow [bow] Those converted coaches alongside the mainline didn't do much to buoy my spirits, though! <ugh>

Rather surprised at how little margin there is for safety between the road ‘n the light-rail right-of-way. Then again, at times I think one could construct a 16 foot wall, ‘n some idiot would find a way to circumvent it! <geesh> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I've read the link - but since it's from Wikipedia, don't give it the credibility one might if from other sources. Anyway, appears to be a good route for a starter. Would've thought they'd have wanted to link the airport first - but what do I know!? <grin>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/METRO_Light_Rail_(Phoenix)

Pete treated me to a DVD showing of a fantastic history of British Rail . . . if I can copy it successfully 'n there are no copyright infringements, I'll have to ship you a copy . . . really well done ‘n provides fantastic insights to the background, all in a conversational manner. Thumbs Up [tup] Saw ‘n heard a steamer chugging up a 3% grade - looked mighty fine! Yeah!! [yeah]

Also found a terrific ice cream parlor <parlour> to escape the afternoon heat in . . . great thing to do in summer's oppressiveness, fer sure, fer sure! <phew> Contrary to what some might think - we weren't at the bar when it first opened . . . had to drop off the Swedish designed, Belgian assembled <‘n US owned company!> vehicle - then take the bus to the pub! <grin> Pete's bride was designated driver later on in the evening . . .Bow [bow]

Many thanx for your visit, good cheer ‘n < I3 > Post! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 57 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:54 PM <4:54 PM Sunday NZ time>: One of the reasons I'm not affiliated with rail groups of any kind <real or model> is that I have pretty much zero-tolerance for those who take this thing far too seriously. Can't handle that. I'm "into" trains simply for the enjoyment - if it gets anymore involved than that - deal me out.

Can't comment on the Aussies or any others for that matter as a group, but I've surely been in situations far too often where the anal types have driven me to distraction. Thumbs Down [tdn] As for getting some new blood here at the bar - it would be terrific, but the more I've given it serious thought, the clearer the reality becomes - there probably aren't that many "out there" who would want to make the commitment we have to something like this . . . hit ‘n run seems to be the way in the Ether. But, not here! Yeah!! [yeah]

Still think an Aussie or two would make our group even more interactive than it is . . . but we're doing fine, just as long as we don't experience "disappearing acts" as some have done without so much as a fair-thee-well . . .

Pass on to your bride that I think she's "spot on" with the idea that one is never too old to learn . . . ‘n that goes for learning what NOT to do as well! <uh oh> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Gotta watch those "lobsters," eh Question [?] Give ‘em an inch . . . <uh oh>

Now THAT's the way to do it regarding the lottery winnings - it surely isn't "earned," so where do the tax people "get off" with their money-grubbing Question [?] Ticks me off . . . big time. As if they don't get enough through payroll taxes . . . <mumble> <grumble> <snort> <bratzafratz> We GIVE away more money to nations ‘round this globe than some countries have in their national economies. Makes my blood boil, since if left to me - they'd be treading water. <arrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh> Boris - NO, NO, NO - we're CLOSED today - so don't ring the <baaaaaaaawong> <gong> <baaaaaaawong> <gong> bell! <bratzafratz>

Okay - that's outta my system - for now. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Many thanx for the visit, good cheer ‘n of course the ROUND of Tui! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:40 AM

<IE #081 - class 071 - GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com >

 

Reminder: "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs

<but go ahead ‘n slip your messages thru the mail slots on the doors!>

 

G'day Gents!

And here's the FINAL spate o' fotos from my JCity experience! Figured since I'll be away for a day or more, best to complete the series whilst I can! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom in JCity with the Wolfman! #4

Rule of Six suspended <by two>!

(20) An Irish Pub!

(21) Pete at the bar in Pat's Place!

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(23) An interesting back bar!

(24) Interior of Pat's Place

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That's IT - Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Gunneral on Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:54 PM

Hi Tom and all,

The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys`please Leon!Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Eric. My bride reckons you`re never too old to learn anything, anytime!Wink [;)] A fine selection of various pix, another Pheonix Light Rail station and ROW shot, when do the cars start running in that area? That #573 loco sure looks well worn, thats for sure! Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete. Some fine pix of the BR Class 5 and the Class 9F locos`, that Class 5 in the green paint work looks great!Approve [^] Would have loved to have joined you and Tom at Pat`s Place in Jcity, from Tom`s pix of the place it looks a real homely bar.Yeah!! [yeah] I remember an old saying about the game of cricket, it goes something like "When you are "In" then you go "Out", and when you are "Out" then you go "In".Confused [%-)]Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom. Pity about no Aussies` staying around here at "Our Place" for long, I found that when we lived over there that a lot of train enthusiasts were a bit individualistic and did`nt mix too much. The "Redcoats' are doing the same thing over here and in Aussie as well!Wink [;)] A really fine set of pix in those three posts of your visit with Pete at JCity, some nice shots of general area with the Amtrak station building and yards, the Capitol building and the ones of Pat`s Place with Pete, would have loved to have joined you both at the bar there, it would have been a great get together that's for sure!Bow [bow] We are lucky over here with winnings, we only pay tax on any interest accrued on the amount that has been won and banked in an interest bearing account, theirs no tax on the main amount as it is classed as unearned income.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] 

See ya, Allan

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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:06 PM

Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!

Yes, Leon, a 31 would be just perfect tonight! A Keith's, please.

Busy day today, but I finally made it before dark! Very quiet here today! Vacation time?

Tom –  Waiting room? Isn’t there one at the Amtrak station? That would be a perfect place for you and Pete to wait!Evil [}:)] I am sure they have drinking water available for both of you, while you wait for the fact finders!!! I just noticed that one of Pete's photos shows a water fountain in the waiting area!!! As I said, a perfect place for you to wait!Mischief [:-,]

PE #418 is an interesting piece of equipment! Kind of noisy to ride, but that is okay.Smile [:)]

I think the Trains server had a bad evening last night. Did not give away all the info at several occasions and not Pete’s photos. But I can see his photos today!Yeah!! [yeah]

I think it is time to investigate Molly Throttlebottom’s Adult Learning Centre. Under cover of course, but something fishy is going on.Shock [:O] I saw Vito’s SUV, the armored one, parked outside last night.Mischief [:-,]

Interesting photos from JCity!Thumbs Up [tup] I heard that the Centennial park will be renamed to Hyde Park, or was it Hide Park? You should be proud, being a friend of the Governor General Pete! Will he still be able to be our Bar Chandler?Question [?]

Nice photos from JCity and Pat’s Place! But I don’t know if that would be such a great place for you and Pete to wait. I think the Amtrak station would be much better. I think I recognize that Swedish designed and Belgian built car in front of the visitor’s center!Wink [;)]

Pete –  Thanks for the mail with the photos!Thumbs Up [tup] Today your photos in the post are showing. I noticed that the electric has only one pantograph! I must say that surprises me.Wow!! [wow]

I forgot to mention the cables being used for multiple unit control. In the old country some of the class Rc6 have two different types of multiple control systems and one on them is using the so called UIC-cable (looks very much like the cables on the class 67). That system is mostly used when the locomotive is at one end of the train and there is a cab car at the other end, push-pull operation.Smile [:)]

It is not important to find out if there were four tracks when the Mallard set the speed record. I was just curious.

Nice photos from your 1999 railtour! 3% grade is steep! How many cars did no 80079 pull up that grade?Question [?]

A few photos. 

One of the new stations for the light rail in Phoenix. 

 

Wabash #573, Museum of Transportation, Kirkwood, MO. Worked hard all its life!  

 

City of St. Louis Water Division #1, Whitcomb from 1924. Has mechanical drive, stick shift with clutch.

 

Williams, AZ. Grand Canyon Railway Station to the right. The track straight ahead is BNSF's line to Phoenix, AZ. 

 

Car hooked up to HEP, Williams, AZ. 

 

 

Eric 

 

 

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:38 PM

G'day Gents!

Pete made it back for his 2nd ‘n some fine Pix . . . sooooooooooo, here's the 3rd in the series . . .

Tom in JCity with the Wolfman! #3

Rule of Six suspended <by one>!

(13) Visitor's Center building

(14) Approaching westbound UP freight

(15)

(16) Bringing up the rear 

(17) Pat's Place

(18) Pete at his favorite stateside watering hole

(19) Just a wee bit too early for a refresher! <grin>

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More to follow . . . but only after a daylite customer's Post! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:38 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please CINDY.

TOM Many thanks for those really great photos from your visit here in Jeff City, there is great detail in them when they are enlarged.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Yes with the flag out it was not long before another Brit rallied to the flag.Big Smile [:D]. I am not sure  but I think the building that is now used as the waiting room was the Union Hotel at one time .

Now for some photos.Thumbs Up [tup] 

Ex LMS class 5 4-6-0 No 45110 at Gloucester on a rail tour on December 11th 1999 from Nuneaton that skirted  Birmingham to Gloucester and back. The Tour included traveling the Lickey Incline in both directions. On the climb, of the nearly 3% grade (1 in 37) for 2 miles, the train was banked by BR Standard 2-6-4 tank No 80079. That is Alan standing by the front of the locomotive.

 

45110 hauled the first leg of the final BR steam train, a special on August the 11th 1968.

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The locomotive that banked (helped) 45110 climb the Lickey bank. No 80079 on a railtour at Crewe Station.

After Nationalisation Of British Railways in 1948 BR designed a Class 5 4-6-0. Standard class 5 No 73096 on the Mid Hants Railway at Alton, now the terminus of the BR line from London Waterloo.

 

Another BR Standard, class 9F 2-10-0  No 92212 takes water at Loughborough on the preserved Great Central Railway. The 9Fs were linked to the GCR in BR days working fast freights known as Windcutters or Runners due to the high speeds these engines achieved on these trains. Bow [bow]

 

Well CINDY a round pleaseThumbs Up [tup] and if there is any steak left that will do fine forDinner [dinner]Approve [^].

Pete.

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:23 PM

G'day Gents!

Wow!! [wow] Seems our Bar Chandler was about to drop in on us pretty much on top of my last . . .  Soooooooooooo, time for another installment:

Tom in JCity with the Wolfman! #2

(7) Twin spans of the highway bridges crossing the Missouri River at Jefferson City, MO

(8) Amtrak Depot building

(9)

(10)

(11)

(12) Smaller of two waiting areas - this one apparently is left open, whereas larger one remains closed ‘til close to train arrivals ‘n departures.

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More to follow . . .

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:21 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A bit early but I think a pint of Holden's Mild would go down a treatApprove [^] on this cloudy but very warm day please CINDY.Thumbs Up [tup]

TOM Many thanks for the Classic Drumheads by the Dozen.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] They certainly added a sense of style to the companies top passenger trainsBow [bow]. They are all good but I like the simple style of the C&O Lines and the artwork on the DRG&W ‘ The Panoramic' ones.Approve [^]

Glad you liked the photos.Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the link to the Brains Brewery.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup] It seems I have not tried the latest variation of the SA, as it was only introduced in 2006 perhaps Nick can tell us the difference to the latest style to the new oneYeah!! [yeah]. I would like to try that Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau (sort that one out spell checkSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]) introduced in 2006, made with Welsh HoneyApprove [^] I wonder if Nick has tried that one as wellQuestion [?].

I would be good if that traveling Baseball Hall of Fame where to pay a visit to our areaApprove [^].

Indeed it was a great get togetherApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].

ALLAN Yes I think you have to grow up with cricket to really understand it. I used to love listening to the Test Match Special on the radioApprove [^] when commentators like John Arlott and Brian Johnson come really make the game come aliveBow [bow].

Glad you enjoyed the photos.Thumbs Up [tup] My friend on the train was the same guy I went up to Doncaster to see Mallard and take the photos.

Yes I learnt about slip coaches from that linkThumbs Up [tup]. I believe there is some cine film of a slip coach in operation but I can't recall where I saw it, it could have been at our steam club we had in Rugby.

As Tom says it would have been great if you could have been with us at Pat'sThumbs Up [tup], I think you would like it.Yeah!! [yeah] When the Brits came over for my wedding it was like a second home to them.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

ERIC Thanks for the details on the PE # 418 itThumbs Up [tup] seems to have had an interesting life.Yeah!! [yeah]

I think the cables on the front of the class 67 are part of the multiple unit control, for two locos working together, also some mail cars were converted with a small cab so the mail train could be propelled in the mail depot with the locomotive at the outer end. The system works using the trains lighting wires.

I have tried to have a look to see if it was 4 tracks when Mallard done her record run, I seem to remember seeing a photo lately of her on the runThumbs Up [tup] but can't remember where just nowSigh [sigh] hopefully I will find it. I don't think there was a lot of publicity before she made the run.

Sorry about the photos not showingSad [:(] I will e-mail then to you.Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the photosThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup], Torch Lake looks an interesting locomotiveApprove [^] and # 1200 looks in great condition and working well on that run.Bow [bow]

 What's that you say CINDY if I can't say that Welsh Beers name I can't have itShock [:O], oh well back to the BathamsBig Smile [:D] and its free until MondayApprove [^]. Back in a bit with some photosThumbs Up [tup].

Pete.  

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:15 PM

G'day Gents!

It doesn't appear we'll have any visitors today, given that two of our number never come thru on weekends, another is on holiday, time zone differences account for two others, another is most-times a nite owl, ‘n who knows what our Bar Chandler may be "into" . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Sooooooo, rather than sit here waiting ‘n waiting for someone to Post . . . here's what may be my only offering <aside from the daily acknowledgments> for this day . . .

A few fotos from my visit to the Wolfman's territory <yes, the Brits have "claimed" JCity, MO as a "beach head" for their return to the new world!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Tom in JCity with the Wolfman! #1

(1) Brit main HQ in mid-continent USA - That's interim Governor General, Pete!

(2) Centennial Park scenic overlook of the Missouri River at JCity - future site of Brit embattlements

(3) Park is located at the former Boliver Street Bridge site

(4) ‘Zoom' shot of MO State Capitol building - soon to be Brit Territorial Supreme HQ

(5) Long line of Herzog cars awaiting movement for refilling in connection with right-of-way construction work

(6) Say "good-bye" to FRED!

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More after the next person visits . . . .

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:20 AM

<approaching Montéal's Central Station - personal foto>

 

G'day Gents!

Saturday again - a good day for the working stiffs at the bar - we retirees don't know what day it is, most times! <grin> Coffee ‘n pastries are fresh ‘n ready as are our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts listed on the Menu Board! Get a move on . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

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Continuing Head's Up! I will not be here on Monday ‘n most probably Tuesday. Daylite help requested . . . Manager Rob will also be gone-zo - Thanx! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Friday - July 18th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 57 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 2:48 PM: Back with a 2nd visit on this Friday . . . Yeah, I picked up on the outdoor NHL game in ChiTown . . . good location for a winter's game, but poor choice of venue. Surely wudda pushed hard for Solider Field . . . doesn't seem that the "Garage League Moguls" are interested in attracting a large crowd. Makes no sense to Moi, but then again - hardly anything does when it comes to the "Garage League" - let us not forget who "runs" it ‘n where he came from - Basketball! Yeah, right . . . it IS about the money! Thumbs Down [tdn] [#offtopic - but YOU started it! Since the <tweeter> is temporarily indisposed - we're both off the hook. <phew> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Perhaps that traveling show will wind its way to St. Louis - would dearly luv to see the things you mentioned. Too bad one can't take a train to Cooperstown - now that I'd DO - even aboard Amtrak! <grin>

Thanx for the PM swing by with quarters ‘n a ROUND!  Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

 

Page 57 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:15 PM: Our Bar Chandler returned with his 2nd submission for the day . . . always appreciate the time ‘n effort put forth by our Resident Brit in Mid-Missouri! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Really enjoyed those two fotos of the BritRail electric locos. Thumbs Up [tup] Came thru in nice clarity of color ‘n detail! Yeah!! [yeah]

Thanx for the link on the slip coaches . . . always learnin' stuff at the Tavern by the Tracks! Bow [bow]

Check this out regarding the Skull Attack reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA_Brain_&_Company_Ltd

Since I've now seen ‘n become acquainted with the Wolf Den, you're out of excuses for NOT putting up at least a modest HO layout. You' ve got some fine stuff - put ‘em on operating tracks! Thumbs Up [tup] Didn't think I was ‘checking' didja - but I did! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Think big, but begin small - just a temporary layout will getcha feet wet - you KNOW you'll get all of the help you need right here! Yeah!! [yeah]

Don't believe CM3 Shane went to the Baseball Hall of Fame - he visited a traveling "road show" that was in Beantown . . . One day, we ARE going to Cooperstown, NY - it's one of those places I've simply overlooked during all the years spent in the northeast. Definitely wanna see it . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Can-Am Trackgang worked on Nick's layout Question [?] Hmmmmm, perhaps they were transported to Wales via a ZEP flight. Wonder what the tariff was Question [?] No matter - some mighty fine details in those Pix provided by our man in Wales! Thumbs Up [tup]

All kinds of good stuff to eavesdrop ‘n hopefully, your efforts will be absorbed by our <GoR>!

CHEERS, Mate - it was a fine get together! <clink>

 

Page 57 - Allan <Gunneral> at 8:33 PM <3:33 PM Saturday NZ time>: You definitely wudda had a grand time with us at Pat's Place in JCity. Terrific atmosphere - non-stop good time ‘n met up with a former Brit-sumariner (10 years on active duty, 12 <I think> in the reserve forces>) fun guy ‘n one of Pete's friends. Seems there IS a conspiracy afoot here in mid-continent USA for a takeover by the "red coats." <yikes>

To set the "record" straight regarding lottery taxes here in the states - there are no taxes on the winnings, per se. What they DO is collect the INCOME TAX straight away, rather than wait for one to pony up at tax time. Either way, you pay the piper, Mate. <grin>

"Blinkers," hmmmmm. Perhaps - but I'd surely wear some "protective gear" in the "jewels department, as Molly has been known to do a "reverse Crocodile Dundee" move on males . . . <yikes>

Was telling Pete how surprised I am that we haven't attracted any Aussies as "fixtures" at this bar. We had a guy swing by at "Our" Place I for about a week or so - then gone-zo. Great guy - but I believe he totally disappeared from the Forums - not just our joint. Then another came by at "Our" Place II, but had nothing in his profile - nor did he let on he was downunder. Made a few Posts, then gone-zo. Only found out later - after seeing his cyber handle show up - that he was an Aussie. <I clicked on his Posts in his profile ‘n caught the references . . . > Anyway, surely would like a couple of more from your part of the world - Australia ‘n New Zealand would be a sure-fire positive tandem at this Watering Hole by the Wayside. Thumbs Up [tup] Came to the conclusion that once the guys figure out it takes commitment to hook up with us, many opt out. Such is life - always figure it's their loss, although we've had some fine troops in here. Bow [bow]

Many thanx for your fine Post ‘n ROUND of Tui! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Saturday - July 19th:

Page 57 - Eric <EricX2000> at 2 AM <midnite Sandbox time>: And "in" strolls our Sandman with a bunch o' responses for the crew! Thumbs Up [tup]

There really are many historic sites in JCity for you ‘n Shane to enjoy whilst Pete ‘n I retreat to the confines of the Pub . . . consider it just a "waiting room" for you two to return! <grin>

Some interesting info in that PE #418 elaboration. Thumbs Up [tup]

Budget plans for utilities have been going on in these parts for decades . . . I suppose there's always two points of view on it - but it does take the "sting" out of an unusually high power bill. <yikes> Of course, all adds up to the same total at the end . . .

FYI - Pete's fotos came through "loud ‘n clear" on my ‘puter. Gremlins in the desert Question [?]

That's an interesting insight regarding Molly Throttlebottom's Adult Learning Centre that you put forth. Some are enrolled to LEARN how to perfect a given skill, whereas others go to CONNIVE ‘n figure out how to perfect ways to beat the system. Hmmmmmm. No wonder you can't be trusted anywhere near the Penthouse Suite! <geesh> We're onto you, Mate! <uh oh>

Two fine diverse fotos! Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanx for your < I3 > Post ‘n good cheer! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

 

TODAY is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:00 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, yepp, exactly. Filet Mignon and mushrooms!! Tui, please!

Thought I would be able to stop by in the afternoon, but other things needed my attention so that did not work out. Anyway, I can now upload new pictures again, Apple finally fixed the probles (except one) today. Instead this place was behaving kind of strange tonight, but right now it seems to be okay.

DL –  Pacific Electric #418 was originally built for Oakland, Alameda and Berkeley Lines of Southern Pacific RR and used in the San Francisco Bay area. Later it was transfered to SP’s Interurban Electric Railway and was running across the San Francisco - Oakland Bay Bridge until 1941.

It was then bought by the U.S. Maritime Commission together with 60 other IER cars and put into its Calship service between Los Angeles and the harbor area to the south. That service discontinued in September 1945 and Pacific Electric purchased 418 (plus other cars). After being remodeled in 1947-48 it operated on PE’s Southern District lines out of downtown Los Angeles. 418 was retired 1961.Smile [:)]

Fergie –  Thanks for the infor on the new M.E.S.S. locomotive!Thumbs Up [tup] I guess she has been used in heavy traffic considering bent main drive shaft! So the new loco is causing some expenses for the railroad, increasing the radius of the mainline curves!Oops [oops] That will cause a lot of disruptions for the traffic, late trains and so on. I am sure it will keep you busy for a while. Wink [;)]

CM3 –  I’ll be happy to keep some of the heat packaged in this part of the country for a while.Smile [:)] There is more than enough both for Allan and for your part of the world! We are also on a budget plan for natural gas and electric power. Makes kind of sense.

Pete –  Thanks for the photos!Thumbs Up [tup] Do you know what those cables on front of the class 67 are for? Could it be some kind of UIC-cable, used for the PA system, door control, etc?

Was the line for the speed record a 4 tracks line back in the late 30’s when they set the speed record?Question [?]

There is a problem with your pictures in your last post.Grumpy [|(] They don’t show, most likely because the page doesn’t load completely for whatever reason. I tried several times and at one time I could see the very top of the second picture.Sigh [sigh]

Tom –  Pat’s Place, hmmm. I’ll talk to Shane, we might have a better idea!Mischief [:-,]

My soldering technique is probably kind of average, not the best but acceptable. I was also formally trained by the railroad after I became a road foreman. I am not quite sure why. Wink [;)]

A good collection of drumheads!Thumbs Up [tup] Denver & Rio Grande Western’s The Panoramic and Great Northern Railway’s Empire Builder are my favorites! Smile [:)]

Allan –  What the heck are you learning at Molly Throttlebottoms Adult Learning Center?Question [?] I thought you already knew all the tricks in the book! Mischief [:-,]

A few Friday night photos. 


I am afraid the only thing I know about this locomotive is that I took the picture at Greenfield Village (the Ford Museum), Dearborn, MI.

 

Swedish State Railways class F, 4-6-2, #1200. Photo: Hans Polanik.

 

Here it was supposed to be one more picture, but for some inknown reason it won't show. I'll try again tomorrow.

 

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Posted by Gunneral on Friday, July 18, 2008 8:33 PM

Thumbs Up [tup]Hi Tom and all,

Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!Yeah!! [yeah]

Pete. The game of cricket can get confusing to those who have not been brought up with a lifetime of watching it!Confused [%-)] A very fine selection of pix from the K&WV Rly, Devon and Cornwall, the one off 89001 and Class 31 diesel.Approve [^] Sad to read you missed out on that trip behind Mallard in 88, your mate was a true enthusiast not leaving his prime position, nice of the waitress to bring him a Sarnie. Good link to that Slip coach info.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Rob. Their are no taxes` on Lotto or betting winnings` over here as well. Will have to keep an eye on H&H, with blinkers on of course.Wink [;)] Some fine diesel loco pix from you again.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric. Theirs no snow on the ground around here at all but theirs still quite a lot up on the Ruahine Ranges to the west of us. Couple of fine pix from Silverton.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Dan. Thanks for that Slip coach update, the early British and Irish rail companies were great innovators of ideas to keep running costs` and times` at an efficient level. Nice link to the GC Rly in the Nottingham area.Smile [:)]

CM3. Nice to see you back with us again. Saw some of that last game of baseball at the old Yankee Stadium the other day, it was reported as the longest game ever played there, some of the hits were very spectacular to watch.Wow!! [wow]Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick. Hope Missisnick is feeling much better now?Sad [:(] A very fine write up with the diagrams of the track plans, and some fine pix of your track re-alignment project, sounds as if you had to be a contortionist to take some of them.Wink [;)]Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

Fergie. Good to see you back on board once again.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom. Looks as if I`ll have to wear a set of blinkers when I`m at Molly Throttlebottoms Adult Learning Centre!Wink [;)] It`s all part of a global brewers` conspiracy to amalgamate so many worldwide breweries, at least over here they have`nt changed any of the brew tastes`, only hope they do`nt start applying the same sort of price rises` that are affecting our gas supplies!Grumpy [|(] Liked that Brian Cramps Aussie exports` quote!Laugh [(-D] See we were in at the same time today,fine post on the Classic Drumheads by the Dozen #4 a really nice selection.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, July 18, 2008 8:26 PM

G'day Gents!

I see CM3 Shane ‘n Pete have been "in" with their 2nd for this day . . . so, I'll chip in with one to cap it off! Thumbs Up [tup]

Now Arriving on Track #2

Classic Drumheads by the Dozen - #4

 <Initially Posted on 11 Feb 2008, Page 183 at "Our" Place II>

(1) GTW - La Salle

(2) C&O Lines

(3) CN&W - The Namekagon

(4) Milwaukee Road (CMSTPP) - The Columbian

(5) DRG&W - The Panoramic

(6) Erie - The Limited

(7) GN - The Empire Builder

(8) IC  The Seminole

(9) KCS - The Southern Belle

(10) L&N - Dixie Line

(11) NYNH&H

(12) NYC - The James Whitcomb Riley

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, July 18, 2008 4:15 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

ALLAN I won't saying any thing to the bride about the Lord's test matches, she would only say, "See what I mean"Smile [:)]

Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup]. Yes Mallard looked superb that dayBow [bow] with the weather cooperating for taking photosThumbs Up [tup]. Unfortunately I did not get a ride behind herSad [:(], as, not surprising, the tickets for the trains she ran were sold out pretty quickly and a few ran mid week. A friend did get a run behind her, the only ticket he could get was on the dining part of a train. He found vestibule window out of the way and stayed ,on the part of the trip Mallard hauled, the waitress on the train asked about his dinner and he said could you just bring me a sandwich, which she did.Big Smile [:D]

ROB Yes the light at the end of the tunnel with paying off my bar tab was indeed a train coming.Big Smile [:D], still the free beer and food till Monday is greatApprove [^]

Thanks for the info on the building of the wooden trestleThumbs Up [tup] I guessed with the fine details on it, it must have took a long time to buildBow [bow], it was sad to see that the builder Brian had passed away.

Many thanks for the great photosApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Great shot of the three diesels crossing the CP drawbridge.Yeah!! [yeah]

ERIC Glad you enjoyed the photosThumbs Up [tup]. That is a good point about the precautions taken during Mallards record runThumbs Up [tup], I cannot recall reading about them although the line where it took place is 4 tracks so maybe there was only platforms on the slow lines, also in those days most of the grade crossings had gates if not operated by a signalman from his box were operated by a gate man. I am not sure if there were any grade crossings on the part where the record took place.

Many thanks for the photos of Silverton; it looks a scenic place to visit and today's photosApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup], great picture of the PE Blimp and its control stand and the Chinese steamer.Bow [bow]

DL Many thanks for the link to the remains of the GC in NottinghamThumbs Up [tup], it was indeed sad to watch that video of the demolition of Nottingham Victoria station, during that era a lot of fine railway buildings were lost and if not for a campaign it is hard to think of but St Pancras in London could have gone the same way.Shock [:O]

Yes it seemed that they destroyed the GC track bed by removing bridges etc with indecent haste after it closed.Angry [:(!]Thumbs Down [tdn]

A brewery tour would be a great place to visit while in EnglandThumbs Up [tup], 8 pints seems a generous deal for CAMRA membersApprove [^]

Before we were married the bride we visited Denver for a few days and afterwards we added a couple of days or so and drove to Durango, the bride knew I was interested in steam trainsThumbs Up [tup].

Yes it would have been really good to have all 4 of the British based preserved A4s in steam for the celebrationWow!! [wow], I am not sure how much work is needed on Mallard to get her running again and I guess the NRM is very busy getting Scotsman overhauled. In the back of my mind there was something historic about the train that Mallard took over, like the first electric hauled passenger train into Doncaster but not sure. The train that Mallard took over was hauled from London by the one off 89001.

 

Before the special arrived this clean class 31 in Railfreight red strripe livery passed by.

I agree about the electrification it should be extendedYeah!! [yeah] but what puzzles me is why the freight operators are buying just new diesels and using them many miles hauling freights under the wires when there is nearly new class 92 electrics in store.Confused [%-)]

That sounds a great newsstand at Derby MarketApprove [^]; do recall the old WH Smiths news stand that was in the entrance hall at Derby station.Question [?]

I wonder if any of the old slip coaches survived into preservationQuestion [?], as you say it would be great to have one on the GCR and they could slip a coach at QuornWow!! [wow]. I found a link to slip coachesThumbs Up [tup]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip_coach

Yes I wish I had traveled on the APTSigh [sigh] we saw a lot of the sets when they were on test and the short while they worked services, we thought that they were going to take over the services like the Pendelinos of today.

CM3 Great to see you backApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Sounds as though the Baseball Hall of Fame is well worth a visitBow [bow], Looking forward to the details.

Not sure if the day at the bar is just a on off or whether it is to become an annual eventSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg].

NICK Although I am not an active modeler I am really enjoying the track plans and the descriptions of the stationsThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. I'm a bit puzzled about the stop block in the Yugoslavian stationConfused [%-)].

The Can-Am track gang certainly deserve a drink a two after the fine work they done on your layoutApprove [^]Bow [bow], many thanks for the photos.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup] 

FERGIE Good to see you in the barApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup] and that you are enjoying calm seasThumbs Up [tup].

Glad you liked the photosThumbs Up [tup] and I thought it strange that there was a ship named Sinko something, I guess Sanko is better.    

TOM Really great to have had you here in Jeff City for a visitApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] and seeing from your post you enjoyed yourself hereThumbs Up [tup] as you say the only thing that could have been better was the heat and humidity.

 Thanks for the food and drinks until MondayApprove [^], the steak tonight will taste even better than usual.Yeah!! [yeah]Big Smile [:D]

Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup], it does not indeed seem 20 years since those photos were taken.

Many thanks for the interesting link to the smoking memorabiliaApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]; I don't know if I would have the tin with the exotic lady holding snakes on it thoughBig Smile [:D].

Yes I think H&H should only wear the beaver suitsShock [:O] when it is closing time and the track gang seems reluctant to leave.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Not sure how the Brain's SA became known as Skull Attack but it is a good drop of aleApprove [^], perhaps Nick knows where SA got its name.Thumbs Up [tup].

Well RUTH another Bathams please and then the Steak and FriesDinner [dinner] that H&H have prepared but not the one that has what suspciously looks like a beaver tailShock [:O] sticking out from it.Big Smile [:D].

Pete.     

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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, July 18, 2008 2:48 PM

Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Just a quick stop for now.

OSP - E-mail rec'd and answered.

It's hard to tell some of us from the historical sites - nuff said!

Complete NHL skeds are in today's edition of USA Today.  I agree with what you say - not enuff divisional play, IMHO, but balance is not what thy're after - just show me the $.  Anyway some if the divisions or whatever they call them this week, are not really all that great to begin with.  Now, Boris, reach down the dust covered bottle from the high shelf behind the bar and put three fingers worth in my coffee - they have an outdoor game scheduled for - by all that's holy - Wrigley Field; Blackhawks and Red Wings on January 1st.  I'm so confused.  Let's play two - or was that another guy?

Not like it was in the old days when they played over North Station is it?  What's your thoughts, Rob?

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, July 18, 2008 1:51 PM

<approaching Montéal's Central Station - personal foto>

 

Friday's Grin

Brain Cramps

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--Keppel Enderbery

 

G'day Gents!

I'm baaaaaaaaaaack ‘n I see things are movin' along quite nicely here at the Tavern by the Tracks! Many thanx to all who've kept pace with things during my brief, but fun time with Wolfman Pete in Jefferson City . . . Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Check out the buffet table - quite a spread put on for the boyz today. Ring the bell, Boris - a welcome back ROUND on the Proprietor! Yeah!! [yeah]

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Comments from the Proprietor

Gonna need some daylite HELP Monday 'n Tuesday, as discussed in my Mark Your Calendars Email!

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BRIEF Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Thursday - July 17th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 56 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:32 AM: Seems that to mess with successful marketing ‘n distribution <AB or Labatts> makes absolutely NO sense - good point, if InBev hasn't screwed things up by now, perhaps they won't. One can hope . . .

Nice spate of 3 fotos! Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanx for the AM daylite visit! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 56 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 1:10 PM: Baaaaaaaack <finally>! Take your time in the catch-up process - but be sure to absorb the final few spates of Rendezvous Pix . . . would be a shame if you didn't see them. Thumbs Up [tup]

Email received ‘n responded to - thanx! Thumbs Up [tup]

We've been missing those quarters for Herr Wurlitzer ‘n your daily ROUND - glad you're back on board, Mate! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 56 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:52 PM ‘n 8:32 PM  <12:52 AM ‘n 2:32 AM Friday GMT>: "In" with a twist - invoking Rule 147 hasn't been seen ‘round here since Moby Dick was a Minnow . . . . hmmmmm, perhaps - just perhaps, we'll put the <tweeter> aside. But, as the old priest said to the young priest - kissing a nun is acceptable my son, just don't get into the habit! <badabing - badaboom> <uh oh>

Must have time to fully absorb the track diagrams ‘n narrative . . . will do! Thumbs Up [tup]

Fine spate of fotos from your reworked railway in the shed . . . as always, really some good details of your efforts have come through - loud ‘n clear! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Prosthetics - eye - Missinick Question [?] <huh???> Perhaps something for Email . . . hope whatever it is that is going on comes through without a hitch. Yeah!! [yeah]

Splash for all most appreciated as are the two fine Posts . . . will provide a bit more comment on ‘em later . . . Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

Friday - July 18th:

Page 56 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:07 AM <11:07 PM Thursday Sandbox time>: I never fully mastered the technique of soldering - was "formally" trained in the military - got by - followed the directions over ‘n over with the various ‘n assorted soldering guns I've purchased - ‘n still wind up making the worst solder joints known to man-kind. <yikes> Just not accomplished in that dept. I suppose . . . <grin>

Nice spate of fotos - doesn't matter one bit that they've been provided before - they fit in quite well with what we're trying to accomplish ‘round here! Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete ‘n I decided that should we ever have a Rendezvous in Jefferson City - or a portion of one - you ‘n Shane can go check out the historical sites, whilst Pete ‘n I sit in the air conditioned comfort of Pat's Place! <grin>

As always, many thanx for your good cheer ‘n support! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 56 - Dan <DL-UK> at 5:58 AM <11:58 AM GMT>: Early, but "qualifies" as a daylite Post to help kick things off for this Friday at the Watering Hole by the Wayside! Thumbs Up [tup]

Most interesting commentary regarding InBev - American beer "tastes," et al. Can only offer this - I surely KNOW an AB product from Miller or Coors. Remains to be seen whether that will continue . . . but seems to me one would be killing the goose laying those golden eggs, eh Question [?] Yeah, we'll be seeing far more "foreign" brews under the InBev label at the supermarkets, beverage stores ‘n taverns . . . but we Yanks are most anal when it comes to shifting gears. Metric system comes to mind . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Enjoyed eavesdropping your Post - which of course has put me further in the hole of "catch up" . . . <groan> I'll get there! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

You'd have enjoyed Pat's Place with us - an Irish Pub, American style - jam packed ‘n LOUD. Very neighborhood oriented ‘n lots of good cheer. <grin>

Thanx for the visit to help get our AM on track! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 56 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 7:54 AM <9:54 ADT>: First up - the Larsman is gone-zo - doubt <doot for Rob> that he'll catch your comments straight away. He's now pretty much a monthly visitor <if that> - also doesn't check his Email. Sorry. It's just the situation, Mate - just the situation he's in.

Don't know what revelation you have in store for him regarding his "jabbing" you over the E before I in FergmEister - but I can attest from my German heritage, that I do believe he's onto something. <uh oh> But what do I know - I'm also ¼ Irish! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

That's probably the closest Post you've EVER come up with that "qualifies" <marginally> as an < I3 > offering! Keep that up ‘n you'll have us convinced that you do indeed give a Rat's Patoot about <aboot for Rob> this Bar by the Ballast of ours! <grin>

Not to worry, Mate - the <tweeter> is up on the chocks in drydock! <uh oh> But surely should be sea worthy next time YOU stray . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Means a lot to us to have you participate ‘n we know that as a working man at sea - a family man ashore - there's much more to life than playing in the Ether. Just that you do both so well - we enjoy hearing from ya! Thanx for the visit, good cheer ‘n ROUND! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 56 - Dan <DL-UK> at 8 AM <2 PM GMT>: "In" with a daylite offering to keep things on a roll ‘round here! Thumbs Up [tup]

I had read about <aboot for Rob> the upcoming changes to the VIA Rail sked . . . thanx - I'll be sure to scrutinize ‘em . . .

 

Page 56 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:09 AM: Picked up nicely on Nick's offerings - which does the old heart good, in that engendering comments is what we strive for! Bow [bow] Far too many times at all three of our bars, we've been insulted by those who seem to think that it's only what they want to offer that "counts" ‘n to blazes with being inclusive or acknowledging the other guy . . . this crew is far, far different ‘n much more appreciated! Yeah!! [yeah]

Yes, picked up on the NHL sked in this morning's bird cage liner <aka: local paper> - noted that the "Garage League" has endeavored to provide more "balance" by having each team play every team in the opposing conference ONCE each season. Yeah, right - balance my patoot! <grin> But it's a start I suppose . . . bring back the Norris Division! Yeah!! [yeah]

Nice to have you back in your "slot" ‘n of course the quarters ‘n ROUND make it even more meaningful! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 56 - Pete <pwolfe> at 10:25 AM: My JCity buddy has come through with an AM offering along with some fotos. Thumbs Up [tup]

We had a wunnerful time yesterday, last nite ‘n this AM . . . gotta do that again! Worst part of it all was the <censored> heat . . . mid 90s ‘n high humidity ain't my "thing" - thank the Lawd for air conditioned ice cream parlors <parlours> AND pubs! <grin>

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar  until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em a drink on the Proprietor! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, July 18, 2008 10:25 AM

Thumbs Up [tup]Hi Tom and all

A cup of coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH.

Captain [4:-)]Tom is heading homeward after a really great visitThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] which included a coupleWhistling [:-^] of drinks at Pat's Place.Approve [^]

Back later to reply to the posts, I though I would post a couple of photosThumbs Up [tup]

In the photo of Mallard there was a first generation DMU in the background, this is a view from inside a class 108 DMU on the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway in Yorkshire. The steam loco passing is a BR class 2 2-6-0.


From the West Country of England. On the sea wall between Dawlish and Dawlish Warren in Devon .


End of the line at Penzance,Cornwall, a class 67 on a mail train.


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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, July 18, 2008 8:09 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  In the 50s here today with higher temperatures expected later today - we missed the "great heat" in the Northeast which is really supposed to get cranking today.  

Economic news for this a.m.: gas in New York (no Awk, not the city) varied from $4.25 to $4.28.  It was 4.04 to $4.11 in Massachusetts and approx $3.99 in Pennsylvania.  Price here this a.m. is (rounded up) $4.18.

DL- Good to hear from you - will check into the links you included a bit later.  Lengthy layover in Winnipeg - sounds like a country song in the making.

Eric - Please keep the heat packaged over in your part of the country for awhile; we might need it here in a few months.    Got my natural gas bill for the month (we are on a budget plan) so I am presently paying forward for next winter. 

Nick's navvies have been busy to say the least.  Oak benchwork - just like the Royal Navy back yrs ago.  I have been known to scrounge scrap material for benchwork myself - you're right, that stuff won't move, but you'll also have fun cutting it to fit. 

I enjoyed looking at the track plans.  A couple of comments with your permission.

Will begin with the third one - it would make a nice display layout for a show - a view block and add a running loop and relax and "watch das trains roll!" 

The first plan has a lot of operational possibilities.  You have to run around to do the switching and then head back.  This would be a fine 2'x8' N scale shelf type layout.  Staging off to the left (cleverly disguised as a yard with some interchange trackage and the plan itself to the right - there is a lot of opportunity for scenery and detail work there. 

The second one has a lot of possibilities as well - Idler ("reach") cars are clearly the only way to do the needful.  I can see a few additional tracks to the right with a car float - then another staging yard to the left.  This could be more than possible in N but there is a lot that could be done in HO as well.

Fergie - Just saw your post - Good to hear from you - get the CV book if you can; it's a good 'un. 

Note to OSP - NHL schedules have been relaesed for the upcoming season.  Thought Juneau would want to know.

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Posted by DL - UK on Friday, July 18, 2008 8:00 AM

Hello all

I'll join Fergie in whatever's on offer.

Just thought anyone interested on Canadina rail travel (who might that be?....) might be interested in this post I picked up on another forum I keep an eye on: 

 I see that Via have drastically changed the Hudson Bay timetables since I rode it, the run is now about 10 hours longer and now you are able to see more of the Manitoba/Saskatchewan scenery that you previously passed through in the dark.
My return trip to Winnipeg arrived at 3:30pm so this new timetable may reflect the timings better. I see aslso that the Canadian is also in line for a timetable change in December I'm told that it may include a lengthy layover un Winnipeg."

Interesting if true.

See you all later

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Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, July 18, 2008 7:54 AM

Morning Captain Tom and Company (notice no "good" before morning)

Rounds for all who care to imbibe with me! Might as well get the Fish Cake Special with a side order of beans

I've wrestled with this site for the last 45 minutes trying to get an e-mail off to Lars... Lars could be getting 3 e-mails of the same for all I know... There's a 10 minute time out if there is inactivity then you have to log on and accet the "terms of agreement" to keep the lawyers paid happy. I've logged on 5 times already as I really don't think it's 10 minutes either.

Anyway we made it in to Halifax for a brief program and Captain's Change and am back at it once again 140nm South of Halifax somewhere off the Continental shelf.Wow!! [wow]Zzz [zzz] She's flat Whistling [:-^]calm out here. (Tom is Shock [:O] as your not suppose to whistle as it will bring winds)

Anyhow Once again I have enjoyed all your pics. Tom with the pics of his travels in the Rockies and such, Rob with the Pics of Trolleys (That's a dated pic of the Toronto HarbourFront, The taxi gave that away) and his Layout with Trestles! Pete's Mallard.

I really should comment more often but once alongside I get wrapped into the paper jungle.

Tom: Sorry no pics of the Bar as of yet as i don't have a License and the Sign isn't up yet and we had a little accident the other day as the kitchen door got blown off the hinges after the Still Dishwashing machine blew up... go figure.

Lars: good to see you! Please see the e-mail regarding the spelling of "Fergmiester"

Pete: The spelling of Sinko was one of the errors in the story it is actually Sanko.

Nick and DL: We will never learn by our mistakes. At present they are looking to replace the Hudson and are looking for a new design (Sorry we can't build the Hudson on her original lines as there's not a shipyard capable of doing those curved plates any more and it would be too expensiveBig Smile [:D]) I'll pipe down now. We'll get saddle with a shoe box and a set of oars just you wait and see!

Eric: Spent the better part of the evening (in a gentle roll and swell) pulling the loco apart. It may have sat on the shelf for 20 years but it has been run occassionally and it was dropped or banged as there ar signs of bending and soldering. The main Drive shaft was bent though i was able to straighten it. As a result of this new aquisition the Majority of the M.E.S.S. main line track will have to be... dare I say it... yes it's true...replaced. This will be a Winter  project that I do not look forward to. I will be increasing all mainline curves with 30" + radius curves (ouch)

Tom: Loved the CV book cover, I'll have to keep an eye out for that one as it looks interesting.

Well Gent's thanks for the company!

Captain [4:-)]Fergie

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Posted by DL - UK on Friday, July 18, 2008 5:58 AM

Hello Tom and all in

I'll have the full pancake breakfast please.

Tom, on InBev I don't think they will be foolish enough to actually slaughter the business - no way - but what they will do is remove certain behind the scenes things the avg drinker won't notice - and boost the advertising business to build up what they love to call the ‘brand'. This is where you will be hammered! Interestingly I was treading some comment (by an American) that was saying that the big US beers, Miller, Bud and another I can't recall, were actually very similar tasting despite the size and diversity of the US (and thus its drinkers) - apparently blind tasting had suggested some people could not tell the difference - don't know how true this was - but that the ‘brands' had very different feels to them - some more ‘blue collar' orientated - some more sports focussed etc etc - and there was massive ‘brand loyalty' amongst particular drinkers - and this would be where the fight would be over market share - this contrasts with the UK where competition is often between ‘beer styles' eg bitter, lager, stout etc - which had different flavours and getting people to change style was also an issue, or you fight it out for market share within the style.

Another thing InBev might do in soem bars is try to push premium continental beers that they have bought up and merged with and then try to flog them at expensive prices beside the home grown favourites - this is what they do here with things like Leffe and Hoegarden, once small independent Belgium brews that got bought out - then the craft brews got rid off and turned into mass bland product sold everywhere to people who like to think they are getting something ‘sophisticated'.

This is off topic and possibly all BS anyway - but it is Friday - my ‘two penneth' - now you know what that means!

By the way - Pete - Batemans Tour - entry includes free beer, Camra members get extra free beer (approx 8 pints each I think) - we got so much free we had to bring some flagons of it home on the train.

CM3 - back in - seems like you enjoyed your travels. Good to see you.

Eric - really liked that Pacific Electric car - stylish paint scheme. Where would that have run to and from?

Rob - well the issue about loading gauge is an interesting one - blame Robert Stephenson - it's a UK thing (not the case in Europe) I think the whole thing is based around the size of atypical horse drawn wagon on a colliery plate way. Then they made the tunnels that size - and it stems from there. You get more room on a euro continental sleeper. Problem is the cross channel trains had to be designed to work on the main UK network so had to be the same size as a main UK car size - that defines the whole thing. All there is to it I think. Nice to know the stool is so well cared for!

Nick - nice to see your progress pics - the inside of a classic British Shed - superb - I thought that mug was a bit out of scale however....

Nice pics of Ashburton here to complement your track plans, sadly not one of Seaton (yet) - presumably this is where the Seaton tramway is now located?

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/

Streetcar fans will enjoy this link:

http://www.tram.co.uk/acatalog/fleet.html

Pete - seeing your Mallard pics I was thinking it strange to think 20 years + since the east coast route was wired - and 20 years before that the west coast route - yet we've had no significant wiring in the 20 years since the east coast. Pretty pathetic - then we were told there was no demand for more electric as diesel was getting so efficient - then last few months people are starting to say (oh price of oil means maybe we should have more electric lines... why the heck do they forget so fast. Must be a definition of being in charge of anything - a very short memory....)

Cheerio

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Posted by EricX2000 on Friday, July 18, 2008 1:07 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Hi Leon, no not tonite! Just a cold Tui, please.

I just noticed that several members of the CanAm track gang are here. I  heard they talked about some heavy jobs they had involved in the last few days. Nick? Hmmm.Confused [%-)]

DL –  I am afraid you are correct about InBev and Bud and the future. I think big changes are coming within a few years.Sigh [sigh]

My best to your Bride!Bow [bow] She did the right thing telling those rail fan idiots how and where not to drive!!Mischief [:-,]

I promise to show more pix of the light rail when they start their service Dec 27!

Tom –  You are right about the water situation. The quantity of water that can be taken from Colorado River is limited and we are having a drought that started 9-10 years ago. So the water situation can easily turn much worse anytime.Sign - Oops [#oops]

Rob –  I like to look at details of locomotives and cars, see what it looked like/was constructed yesteryear and what it looks like today.Wink [;)]

I am afraid I don’t know enough about light rail to train people how to operate them. It is not quite like locomotives even though they both run on tracks. But I would love a company picnic with ABBA and the  bikini team! Whistling [:-^]

I like your photos!Thumbs Up [tup] I know  you have told me before, but I am asking again, who built the 1200RS switcher? I kind of think I know the answer, but I am not sure.Smile [:)]

CM3 –  Welcome back!!!Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Good to see you again!

It was thanks to your remarks about the trucks under that tank car I took those pictures! I will provide more pictures of the light rail this fall. Smile [:)]

Nick –  An inch thick steak?Wow!! [wow] That sounds very good, but you don’t have to build me up. I used to be built up more than I am now, but got rid of 27% of myself and don’t want it back. Wink [;)]

Most interesting track plans!Thumbs Up [tup] I am going to study them closer!

Same about your report from the train shed! Looks like you are rebuilding it almost from scratch. If you can smell burning flesh you are keeping your solder iron in the wrong spot.Oops [oops] It’s very easy to do, happened to me years ago when I worked as a TV repairman.

 

A couple of cab shots. Since I still can't upload any new photos they are all reruns.

 

Controlstand in this one: 

PE Blimp.

 

Class JS,

Boone, IA.

 

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:32 PM

Well well,here we still are-Missisnick is off to hospital in Swansea for a couple of days for upgraded prosthetics (sooner or later she will come back with a new eye that actually works......) so naturally I bunked off and spent the day in the train shed-am delighted to report that with the help of the Can-Am track gang,much useful work was achieved-It must be said ,it wasn`t easy--feeding an 8 ft length of baseboard back onto the supporting framework with a two foot length of flexi trak poking out at a 90 degree angle (see pix) has left me with a huge respect for keyhole surgeons (and an abiding hatred of big fat tattooed spiders )-also-it would have been so much easier without those supporting legs-----grumble,grumble--but hey-its done -much of it by standing on a ladder leaning in through the window and twisting my body in ways that it shouldn`t do-Hopefully I should be able to find time this weekend to buy 2 new 22" double curves and 2 24" doubles to complete the circuit-

Have also got the new alignment in place for the mid-level station-a much longer passing track --unfortunately this means I`ve either gotta lift out the southern end to get to the existing low level storage tracks (more steel rail ) or another " in through the window" assault..............as it stands the storage yard only has one long road,if I don`t do it now I will only have to do it later.......

O.K-some pix so you can all share my thoughts here .....

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Here is the proposed new alignment for the south end of the middle station-you cant see from the pic but the `y` point is about 18 inches long-should be able to coax anything through that

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A first view of the middle station ( either Bradford or Midsomer Norton)-as you can see ,at the moment it looks like a bomb test zone......

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Here is one from the opposite corner-the low-level bench work revealed-this section is all inch-thick mature oak -cut from a bunch of old school desks I rescued from the local dump-no need for bracing-this stuff doesn`t move at all-the upper terminus is all pinned onto this timber--bloody difficult to put pins into but totally stable.......

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The underground section,freshly relaid with nickel silver rail.........

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And looking in the opposite direction

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Whilst the digi cam conveys much information it cannot cover the smell of burning flesh,melting plastic ties and general swearing that brought you this image-but,on the plus side-it all works Approve [^]

And now we move down to the bottom corner:-

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This is the leaning in through the window moment.......was sorely temped to give up-but after climbing half way in through the window and wriggling round quite a lot -and swearing (gonna have to apologise to Rick & Karen next door-didn`t realise they had her mother down to stay.......)

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Hey-Job done !!!!!!-had to pull the radius down to 15 " for a short piece but we are in business-lets have a drink with the Can-Am track gang Thumbs Up [tup]Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]-a fine body of men--assuming they have eaten their steaks let them have beer on me tonight........Leon-you know the ropes,just make sure 1 or 2 of them stay around tomorrow to replace the missing ties.........

O.K boys-is bed time for me-just to make sure you all go home with the right head on ,lets have the man in black-Johnny Cash live at San Quentin jail-" I hear that train a rollin`,rollin` round the bend`..........................

O.K-sleepy time-have a good night-I am sure SHANE is abed and catching up,ROB is working a night shift,TOM & PETE are out on the beer in Jefferson Mo and all the rest of the company are usefully employed.............

O.K:-thats me-nighty night folks....

Chef [C=:-)]

 

 

 

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:52 PM

Well good evening all-and guess what..?-Its fri. tomorrow Approve [^]--Before I start,good to see SHANE back in his accustomed armchair at the end of the bar-Have a big splash of the good stuff in your morning coffee with my compliments Thumbs Up [tup]...Leon,make with the beers old thing,seems we are a slightly reduced company this night so tell the galley crew to go for a small batch of beer-battered cod for general consumption,an inch thick steak for ERIC (we need to build him up) and blanch a couple of nets of fries-in fact,send a couple of trays of Mentor gold shield ales and a tray of steaks out to the back bar for the track crews who have been working on the S.O.B lines today -they have earned it.................Yes indeed-the great relaying has begun...

Before I go further,I must invoke rule 147 (favourite with snooker players Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]) -the gist of which is-In certain exceptional circumstances,members in good standing who have fallen behind with responses may be allowed a one-off post to share whatever they are all excited about without fear of tweeting before resuming the normal codes of polite social interaction.......

Well-here`s the thing-last nights planned visit fell foul of an extended practice,not least `cos Tony the singer is one of lifes great raconteurs-a simple question like " what time do we need to be there?" can result in a 40 minute monologue about the glories of touring Ireland in the `70`s (and did....)-trouble is,he had us all rolling around laughing so much we didn`t notice the passing of the time.........

Anyway-point is,was going to present a few track-plans for possible discussion,as it`s quiet tonight,will sneak them in anyway-first up is Seaton

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A very basic branch terminus,located in east Devon-part of the London & South Western Rly.

The branch ran for about 5 miles along the banks of a river,had 2 or 3 intermediate stations and no great engineering features-the reason I have chosen it isthat it was the first station I ever attempted to build a vaguely prototypical model of after reading an article in (I think) the sept `72 Railway Modeller where a contributer put up a similar example he had built in a week during the Easter school holiday-Thus inspired I built mine during the 3 weeks of the xmas hols.

As I recall it was all fairly primitive-although I do remember constructing a working signal box frame out of meccano,cotton & elastic for remote operated points-also I had the principal engine used on the line -the Tri-Ang M7,plus 3 mk1 coaches badly hand painted in military olive green-through workings were in the hands of a Playcraft N.B type 2 with maroon mk1`s and the daily freight fell to the little 0-4-0t -all entirely satisfactory to my 12 year old self.

The whole thing lived on a 6` x 16" baseboard with a 3`x16" storage yard and served me well for several years

The prototype was operated by M7`s with 2 car push-pulls and a daily freight-the bay platform served as part of the goods yard m-f and as a regular platform on summer sats. when through portions would come in to service the local holiday camp.

 

Moving a few miles down the coast we come to Ashburton:-

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Now here we are in Great Western territory-you have all seen my pix from Buckfastleigh and Totnes-well this is the original terminus,before the A38 road improvements cut across the line.......Thumbs Down [tdn]Disapprove [V]

Well-as is apparent,this is operationally more interesting-but there is a sting in the tail-the goods shed..........

Standing regs. prevented engines from running into goods sheds,thus the coal staithes had to be worked with `reach` wagons and the mill siding could only be worked by cable shunting-a chancy number at 12"-1` scale-d*mn difficult in model form-also anecdotal evidence suggests that during cattle & sheep fair season the yard would be so full of wagons and engines that point rodding would be bent out of shape and pinch bars used to set the switches-reports speak of every inch of track filled including the engine shed road........

I believe the principal turns on this line were 14xx tanks although I have an idea 44xx`s would work through on high days and holidays and I am sure that a 57xx or 22xx would not look out of place--I reckon ,for a model,alternate green & black 14`s with choc & cream & blood & custard auto coaches respectively would work nicely-could go into more detail here but wont...

And so to the last of tonights plans:-Bled Jezero in Slovenia

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Now here we are moving into foreign territory (quite literally) -This is a nice little modellable station in the North-Western corner of what was Yugoslavia-plus`s-it has a tunnel at each end of the station,is self contained,is set on the side of a hill so the landscape slopes sharply up from front to back,is a passing point so we can have 2 trains in view-it is on the route for steam specials which gives some latitude about what is run....

I have it in mind that this would be a good model to show off the trains I have inherited from Alan-it`s a sufficiently generic euro-station that the inclusion of overhead wires wouldn`t spoil the shape of it and as an added bonus,just down the line there is a spot where the line comes out of one tunnel,straight across a dizzy-making gorge and into another--got to be worth a look sez I !!!!!!! 

O.K-enough with the plans already-gonna post this then be right back at you with the latest from the track gangs labours on the S.O.B lines

Chef [C=:-)]     

 
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Posted by coalminer3 on Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:10 PM

Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and many $ for the jukebox.  Nice weather here today - in the 80s with low humidity.

We are back from the northern division and I am working my way back through posts so here goes.

Rob sent nice pictures and some good comments - what does (did) Bombardier call that demo model?  Also, nice PCC picture on the harbor route.  Boston still has PCCs on their Mattapan route.  They spent a ton of $ installing a/c on them.  The first day the first one was in service (after two months testing), the a/c crapped out due to a dead "inverter" - the local paper had a lot of fun with that, especially since the heat and humidity were both pegged on the high end of the scale.

Eric - Interesting shot of light rail roadbed.  I look forward to additional reports - what an idea!  Run streetcars downtown on a separated ROW.  I remember looking at the friction bearings on the tank car when we were at the museum.

Pete - Mallard pictures are good ones.  You got your own day?  Excellent!

Allan - Hello to you, sir.

Nick - I hope you are doing o.k. 

OSP - Sold the brewery - jeez!  I can see it now, Clydesdales in lederhosen - Boris would like that, I'm sure.

You sent an interesting summary of high speed rail corridors.  I enjoyed the "accurate map."

Also my compliments on the B&M/MEC/CV offering.  Lovely CV timetable - graphic arts were exactly that back in the long ago.  Thanks for the rerun of Grafix Clasix posters as well.

Incidentally, I went to the Baseball Hall of Fame's traveling exhibit while I was in Boston.  I recommend this to anyone who can get a chance to see it.  Particularly interesting was Jackie Robinson's uniform shirt - heavy wool - which was displayed along with a letter from JFK to Robinson.  I will write more about this later.  Also a lot of Negro League material from Pittsburgh Crawfords, Homestead Grays, KC Monarchs, etc.  BTW, I do like Boris's Cleveland Spiders sweatshirt. 

I'll work my way back through material as I can but I'll be handling the morning turn again beginning tomorrow.

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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:10 AM

Morning Ruth. I see that Boris has fed his menagerie and is now exercising them in the back forty.Let him know that there is a new jar of PPF waiting for him once they all get back in and settled.As for me I'll have a number three and the usual large thermos of "splashed" coffee

Tom-Have a good day if you can.I see that we are of one mind again as to our wayward. It's sad but with the state of things I don't see it improving youth,unfortunatly to have a family anymore absolutly requires two incomes unless one of them is of epic proportions.N Boris don't bring out those photo spreads of H&H !Shock [:O]

The club was absolutly blessed with that one modeller. he scratch built that tressel and two others as well as a roundhouse  and several other industries. sadly he passed away about ten years ago. I remember that when I was still a member Brian would take any and everyone under his wing,man could he build. He never once joined the NMRA either had no intrest in it he always said.

I find that the battery lawnmower has a pretty good wack as far as power and mulching ability goes. My yards far from even either. The downside is that as the batter set gets older it holds less charge,hopefully better tech materializes eventually. I'd love to have a herd of goats for the back forty but we are not allowed "farm" animals by city bylaw. So Boris can't come stay with me either or H&H.

Eric-Good to see you in your usual slot last night or this morning my time anywayBig Smile [:D]Nice shots from Silverton as well Thumbs Up [tup] I've always found it neat to compare those old and new trucks.As I've said before it's nice to see the "tech" side once in a while

I'm sure that a "young buck" like you could do the training for your new light rail,heck you could run the place.Just imagine the company picnic's ABBA and the  swim suit team.<pant pant>

Dan-Interesting url link thanks Thumbs Up [tup] Good to know that you approve of the new teak stool. Boris shines it everyday for you,he also wears his Captain Kid hat while he does it. I finally convinced him that the eye patch wasn't a good idea though. 

I can't imagine why the nightstar stock and all of the Euro style stock is so small,people are teh same size onboth sides of the pond. I know that guage is sometimes different , but surley the extra width could have been accomadated for.Oh well when in Rome as they say.Give me a Budd car any day though Thumbs Up [tup]

Keeping fingers crossd that AB isn't too horribly torn up by INBEV,so far they've left Labatt's alone and it's been well over a decade since that aquisition.

Anyhow gents another work day is upon me so I'm off but I'll leave a couple photo's in my wake.Thumbs Up [tup]

CP switcher "1200RS" in the Kineer yard on top of the escarpment( former TH&B territory )

Conrail train moving over the CP drawbridge just outside of Buffalo ( Erie canal I think )

CN GP9R at Brantford.

Enjoy

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:01 AM

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G'day Gents!

Get-away-day here  . . . so I'll join you with some coffee, pastries ‘n a breakfast. Then I'm heading out . . .

Hope this is the day we see the return of CM3 Shane . . . been too long without him, eh Question [?]

 

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Expect things to be sloooooooooow in the morning, as I'll be away from the bar. Perhaps we'll find someone to step up for our "opening" . . . Ruth will be handling things behind the bar! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Wednesday - July 16th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 56 - Pete <pwolfe> at 10:13 AM: Quite an achievement for our Bar Chandler, as Wolfman Pete not only turned the Page to 56, but wound up with the 1100th REPLY as well! For being such a good sport about footing the bill at the bar, let me drop the other shoe . . . you, Sir are entitled to all the food ‘n drink you can handle ‘til Monday . . . Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Wow!! [wow] Yeah!! [yeah]

A super-fine spate of fotos with all kinds of details to peruse . . . yes, the DMUs stand out quite well ‘n it's easy to denote the new from the old . . . nice clarity, fer sure, fer sure! Thumbs Up [tup] Also that distinctive steamer is surely a <keeper> - would be terrific as a model, eh Question [?]

Bet it doesn't seem like 20 years have passed since you took those fotos, eh Question [?] Time passes, Mate . . . I've been retired for that amount of time ‘n it surely doesn't seem like it. <geesh>

Many thanx for the visit! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

 

 

Page 56 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 1:20 PM: And our Manager swung on by with some good cheer, chat ‘n fotos for the gang! Thumbs Up [tup]

Really am impressed with the details in those Pix of the model railway - especially that retaining wall and the fantastic wooden trestle. Now that's <top drawer> in my OH-PIN-YUN - guyz who have that kinda know-how are serious modelers, fer sure, fer sure! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup] Very nicely done for our OP-SHUN-UL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! [yeah]

Parents can only hope their offspring hold appreciation for the things done for them along the way. At the time they are being done, my guess is there's no thought directed that way- it's only later on in life, in retrospect, that it hits ya. I'm sure I was guilty of that kinda thing back in my day . . . Anyway, I suppose because there are so many more of us in society with so much more to "give" the kids, appreciation may very well have become a watered down thing . . .

My observations of the young in these parts pretty much sums up your feelings on the subject. Don't know, don't really wanna know - but it surely seems to me that there's a bunch of ‘expectations' for this ‘n that ‘n very little on the side of thank you. A far different way of raising kids, fer sure, fer sure. The ONLY time I received toys, for example, was at Christmas ‘n birthdays . . . kinda makes one wonder how the toy ‘n hobby shops "made it" back then . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I seem to have my ankles wrapped in reams of what appears to be adding MoSheen paper! <yikes> It's the bar tab from Wolfman Day! <grin>

Thanx for the visit! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 56 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:32 PM: Back with the 2nd installment of the day ‘n a fine one at that! Thumbs Up [tup] We seem to be a bit over due lately for a visit from a couple of others - like where's Fergie ‘n Dan Question [?] Hmmmmmm. You'd think just the "smell" of FREE lager would get ‘em out of hiding! <grin>

Glad you liked those ads - here's a link that you'll find near ‘n dear to your heart, m'lad . . .

http://www.collectorcafe.com/article_archive.asp?article=710&id=1211

Yes, in an ideal setting, hi-speed rail should have a clear right-of-way from start to finish with no grade crossings at all . . . but that's a hard order to fill when there's so much development between centers of population.

Foto spreads are easy to compile from the Can-Am Trainroom ‘n I enjoy putting ‘em together. So much to look at, eh Question [?] Much better than "lifting" stuff from other places . . .

I recall when we had an active Wednesday ‘round this joint when it came to the old Pike Perspectives Day . . . I was sooooooo busy putting up fotos for several of the guys who hadn't either tried or mastered the technique of uploading/download to a "host" foto site. Now, many of those fotos are gone-zo from the Ether as one of the "hosts" is no longer <RailImages> - I lost a bunch of ‘em on that one. <groan>

Noticed that you dropped by "my other Thread" - thanx! Thumbs Up [tup] Helps to keep it going when there's been hours ‘n hours of inactivity. Bow [bow]

Really having 2nd thoughts regarding that site . . . surely not getting the "referrals" to the bar I had hoped for. But we shouldn't give up, eh Question [?] I mean, WHO is going to pick up the slack you when you're gone for a month or for Eric or for . . .

Every guy who is in our <GoR> should be TRYING to attract newcomers - that's the idea behind it all. We'll not survive otherwise, just a matter of time ‘til the sand runs out of the hour glass. <profound, eh??> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Anyway, appreciate your participation . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Ruth ‘n Cindy in beaver outfits, sure! <pant> <pant> H&H - head for the hills! <yikes>

Read somewhere that the Brains, S.A. is some mighty potent brew . . . some say the S.A. means Skull Attack for the super headache one gets after a few pints! Is that so Question [?] <grin>

Always appreciate the good cheer ‘n < I3 > Posts from our Resident Brit in mid-Missouri! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 56 - Allan <Gunneral> at 10:08 PM <5:08 PM Thursday NZ time>: I've lost track of the brewery buy outs ‘round the world. Was a time I was pretty knowledgeable regarding who the major "players" were . . . no more. So, Heinekin gobbles up breweries, eh Question [?] Why not!

Do believe Rob addressed your question regarding your "escort" at the Adult Learning Centre! <grin> One of ‘em is just a tad LARGER than the other, but oh soooooooo alluring in their stretch-leather outfits. <yikes>

Always a treat to have our Resident Downunder Kiwi on board, especially when the visit is accompanied by a ROUND of Tui! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

 

Page 56 Rob <trolleyboy> at - 11:52 PM: I spent a bit of time researching electric lawn mowers ‘n came to the conclusion that in these parts, they just can't handle the growth, especially in the spring. Don't see ‘em at all . . . <yet> With cutting at least twice weekly in the spring - and thick grass at that - they stall out too much. Plus, mulching <which we prefer> requires much more power than most batteries can handle in a sustained mode. We've got near ¾ of an acre an it's not level, which makes for yet another obstacle. Can't even imagine having to mess with an electric cord <or cords> - I'd have ‘em sliced to pieces in no time flat. <groan> Anyway, my guess is the technology will one day get to a point where there will be "stronger" batteries, etc. Until then, it's fill up the gas cans . . . <triple groan> OR buy a bunch o' goats! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Ahhhhhhh, just the thought of fall . . . when I have to pick up leaves at a rate of thrice weekly! <arrrrggggghhhhh> Bring on the SNOW! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Yes, yes - we HAD to come up with "something" to keep those olde tyme Brit coins ‘n currency coming in! <grin> And from what I understand, Wolfman has loads of it stored away in a "secret" place . . . still hoping for the return of the Farthing, or something like that! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

You are correct, Boris does not provide escort service at Molly Throttlebottom's Adult Learning Centre ‘n Mud Wrestling Emporium. Rather, he's one of the students - most times! He ‘n Pete are in the "tag team" events in the "pool" . . . actually, the mud is chocolate pudding ‘n Boris thinks it's "finger lickin' gud"!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Good seeing you again ‘n appreciate all the good cheer! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Thursday - July 17th:

Page 56 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:16 AM <11:16 PM Wednesday Sandbox time>: If the Colorado River runs out of water - youse guyz are in big time trouble in the desert! <uh oh> Most unnatural of settings for so many people to settle - but such is life, eh Question [?] I'd take the frigid north with temps in the frigid-digits, anytime! <grin>

While I don't doubt <doot for Rob> what you say, I'm thinking that it won't be long before bus ‘n truck manufacturers will all be feeling the pinch - UNLESS they come up with super-efficient engines. We're seeing a major shift in the technology - wonder how many people really understand this Question [?]

Thanx for the info on those railroad car trucks . . . thought the older one was from MoT, but wasn't sure. Thumbs Up [tup]

Congress was DESIGNED to be deliberate <aka: slow> when it comes to making decisions - dot every "i," cross every "t." However, there are times when it surely seems that those sent there just can't <or won't> see the forest for the trees! Unbelievable, incredible ‘n downright fool hardy in the way "things" get stalled ‘n soon forgotten. <barf>

Yes, there is something about <aboot for Rob> the Can-Am Railway's snow country that gives one a feeling of winter. Luv it! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Nice shots at Silverton - still on my "list" of places to visit . . .

Many thanx for your fine < > Post, fotos ‘n good cheer! Bow [bow] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

Page 56 - Dan <DL-UK> at 6:03 AM <12:03 PM GMT>: Many thanx for starting our day for us with a super-fine < I3 > Post! Bow [bow]

There's lots of concern in these parts regarding the long-term for AB <Anheuser Busch>. However, it is the largest brewer in the states ‘n hugely popular. I'd be amazed if InBev screwed up that - they'd be cutting their throats in this market. Just as Euro folks don't care for American beer, many here have a similar bent regarding brews from the continent ‘n your Isles . . . so, it surely would be in InBev's interests to maintain ‘n improve upon the distribution of the products that were once hauled by the great-grand dads of those wonderful Clydesdales. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Covered lots of ground with your offering ‘n it was a gud-un to eavesdrop. Haven't devoted the time to fully check out that link - but will upon my return. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by DL - UK on Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:03 AM

Hello Tom and all in

I'll have a light breakfast - sorry for my absence for a few days - bit busy with one thing and another. Anyway - now I've got a teak trimmed stool I need to make use of it! Many thanks for the privilege.

By the way, bad luck on the Bud takeover - I have no desire to order a bud but if InBev says that they will keep it all open - well - I wouldn't believe a word of it. I think they knocked UK breweries on the head and I doubt you will be treated differently. They always say that on takeover ‘no change' etc etc - 10 years down the line and the bean counters come in big style....

Lars - enjoyed the book cover with the great central - the line used to run right through the centre of my home town.

Some interesting links at the bottom of this page that I think Pete will also enjoy.

http://www.leverton.org/tunnels/notts-gcr/index.html

The link to the You tube video of Nottm vic station being demolished is superb - amazing that someone filmed this on home cine, retained it for nearly 40 years, it got digitised and now anyone can watch it - very poignant.

Reminds me that when you consider the KATY right of way this could have been the same - a trail right up the spine of England from the Chiltern hills in the south east to Sheffield and Manchester - would have been superb - instead much of the line that survived was ploughed up or where there were cuttings used for dumping colliery landfill in and removing any trace from the face of the earth. Of course some exists - like that Catesby Tunnel book cover, but the whole thing could have been a great trail (all ready fro re-opening as a rail line).

Pete - Batemans - yes - you can still tour the brewery and go by train - well worth you thinking about when you are in England with your mates. Better to chose a weekday when you can have the full brewery tour too. Some nice pubs in the village of Wainfleet as well.

Nice to see your pics of Durango and Silverton - let me get this straight you just went there for a holiday and by chance it just happened to have one of the USA's most famous preserved steam lines there?

Nice additional pics too from Eric

Great Mallard pics - shame it was not in steam for the 70th anniversary recently - I guess Boiler Cert is now out of validity.

"How I wish there was a shop here that sold British railway magazines" - incidentally I was at Derby market a month ago - newsstand there sold all the US rail magazine titles I'd ever heard of - as well as the Brit ones! That was nice to see!

Eric - you asked "were those rail fan idiots who drove on the foot path ever told to get out of there?" - well yes, by my Bride - who went to have a word with them (quite a strong word I should add) and they happily moved their vehicles - problem is why did they think it was OK to start with.

Nice shot of the Phoenix Light Rail rt of way. When it is open no doubt you will treat us to more shots and a trip report!

ALLAN - Great Western slip coaches, I was reading about this a year or so ago and I read the last one was early 1950s and was on, I think a Bicester Coach on a Birmingham Route train. The year in question was one I had an old timetable for so I looked it up and indeed there it was with a special footnote to show that it was slip coach. I think they should do some slip coach working on a preserved railway - that would be an experience!

Thanks for the further info on the NZ Mk2 refurb programme.

Rob - yes, comfort levels in Nightstar stock would be different than North American's would be used to - but pretty standard for anyone used to a UK sleeper car where the loading gauge necessitates smaller compartments than you would be familiar with. Nice streetcar pics (again) by the way.

Nick - quite agree with you about APT - underfunded and govt not willing to put the development funds in when Mrs Thatcher hated railways and hated railway staff and their unions. My other half's father worked at BR research centre at the time and worked on APT project a little bit. Things he says confirm this approach. A project ahead of its time. Also of course IT software to control the tilt system not as developed as now which permits tilt on Pendolinos. I think there were errors too though - Pete is right about the 2 power cars - I think they were to be walk through then it was found that the magnetic fields generated could be dangerous to anyone with heart pacemaker so that meant they could not be gangwayed for general use - requiring 2 buffet cars, 2 restaurant cooking areas etc. It is sad there is not a whole set preserved, just a short version at Crewe.

I went on an APT test run when they were running them as supplementary services (not widely advertised to the public) and enjoyed the run - I was a young teenager at the time. We went London to Preston then back on a ‘normal' train.

All the best

DL

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Posted by EricX2000 on Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:16 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, it's time for my Rumpsteak Café de Paris! A cold Keith's, please.

Back to my "normal" hours tonight! I ca tell there has been some kind of celebrations here today. Must be Pete, celebrating the 1100th reply!

Nick –  I am afraid you can’t upgrade the camera to get rid of the shutter delay.Grumpy [|(] My bride complained the other day about her Olympus being slow and she never takes any action photos.

Rob –  The reason I showed the photos of the two different trucks was just to show the difference between an old one and a modern one. The old one is under a tank car at the Museum of Transportation, Kirkwood, MO, and the modern one is under a hopper in Phoenix, AZ. Smile [:)]

I have actuallu been thinking about working for the transit company but decided against it. We young guys need somt time off.Wink [;)]

The club shots we have seen before are always welcome!Thumbs Up [tup] I love to study all the details in them!

Tom –  Rain, mud, humidity is the desert during the monsoon in the summer.Smile [:)] There are canals crossing Arizona, bringing water from the Colorado River to Phoenix and other places.

Ford bought Volvo and GM bought SAAB. Volvo trucks and buses are still Swedish though and doing very well.Wink [;)]

The photos of the trucks show an old arch bar truck from the Museum of Transportation, Kirkwood, and the modern truck is photographed in Phoenix, AZ. Just to show the difference between old and new. Smile [:)]

I am afraid you are right about the gas prize forcing the Congress to recognize the railroad problem. Grumpy [|(]

A good collection of model photos!Thumbs Up [tup] I especially like the one with the parade of “The Canadian”  and “Canadian” trains! Very good shot! The same about the view of the RDCs rolling by beneath Mt Mentor! I can feel the cold, icy, air hit me.

Some classic ads!Thumbs Up [tup] My French is not so good but I remember some words.

Pete –  Congratulations to posting the 1100th reply!!! Wolfman Pete Day!!!?!! Wow!!!Bow [bow]

Mallard, a good looking locmotive. Nice photos! It would be interesting to know what kind of pre-cautions were taken for her record speed run in 1938. I am thinking about if there were any grade crossings, any stations along that stretch of track, etc.

Some of the video footage is okay, the problem is time. Time to do it.Sigh [sigh]

The second shot of the trucks is showing a modern truck under a hopper.

Here are two photos from Silverton. One from where the train stops in the middle of the street and the other one is the station building.

 

 




Allan –  As promised it is going to be kind of hot the next few days, 110-112 degrees, so Friday will be a good day to ship some heat. But I am sure you don't have any snow on the ground, do you?Question [?]

 

Eric

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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:52 PM

Good evening Leon, I see that Pete's tab is still intact ( thouhg a little battered ) so I'll hit it for another Keith's.Approve [^]

Tom-Nice re-run on those Euro ads. I aggree with Pete they have that classic look to them.They have that 1930's Art deco kind of feel to them I think. ( but then I'm not an art afficiando )

Those prices you paid at the pump would certainly gag a healthy maggot,whatchagonnado though.Blindfold [X-)] Best not to look it will only PO you. I switched to a B&D rechargable battery mower a couple years back when the last gas mower died,I have a small B&D corded electric as well but with my back forty you need 200" of wire so it's only used in rare circumstances( ie when I forgot to plug in the rechargeable Banged Head [banghead]

Pete-It's a good thing that you aera  good sport about us abusing your tab. ( it was too close to being paid off anyway ) More reason for you to keep those old UK coins comming at any rate.

I do hope that H&H used some chloroform before they started sewing the beavers together to make their costumes.Shock [:O]That tressel took the one member the better part of a year to build.We used a piece of plywood with track spiked to it until it was ready to be installed. The track on it was handlaid to wooden ties as the whole structure is balsa wood.Several thousand plastic nut ,bolt and washer castings were glued to the various support lumber on it tio make it look authentic as well.

Allan-Good to see you in again this evening Thumbs Up [tup]Goodluck on the latest lotto.Hopefully NZ is the same as here and if you win you are not taxed on the winings.I'll gladly bottle and send you some of our heat and humididty if you would like as well. A real dripper today.Disapprove [V] Should spawn some T-storms tonight or tomorrow,there was lots of heat lightening around this evening. Usually H&H are the Chaperone's for the school enjoyShock [:O]

Rob

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