G'day Gents!
As much as I detest Posting to myself - there's been a complete lull since Dan's visit . . . Pete's having his "toof" worked on - may or may not be back. Whoa! There he IS - logged on . . . Perhaps we'll see him after all . . .
Sure could use some daylite HELP 'round here . . . <geesh>
Should mention we got a "nibble" over on "my other Thread . . . interested G'wan over 'n check it out!!
Here's something reworked a bit from the sub-basement vault of "Our" Place treasures!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #11
<A form of this was initially Posted on 21 Oct 2005, Page 143 on the "original" Thread>
Here's something to enjoy regarding the Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR) from an advertisement in Classic American Trains
NOW . . . A Complete RECREATION CAR Especially Designed for Your Pleasure In daily service on The Jeffersonian, popular all-coach streamliner between New York and St. Louis!
A dramatic highlight in Pennsylvania railroad's new equipment program, this colorful new recreation car provides amusement and entertainment for all ages. A luxurious game and reading lounge . . . a children's playroom . . . a sunken buffet lounge . . . miniature movie theatre - pleasure with variety. Be among the first to enjoy it! Reserve a seat on The Jeffersonian on your next trip! SO ROOMY AND RESTFUL - the new overnight coaches on The Jeffersonian. Only 44 seats to the car - and all reclining! You'll like the new lighting too - fluorescent, 4 times brighter but easy on the eyes. New-type air-conditioning adds still more comfort. EXTRA LARGE MODERN WASHROOMS, one for women, one for men at the end of each coach - handsomely decorated - with 3 glistening washstands and 2 toilet annexes. Enjoy these New Features at Low Coach Fares!
THE JEFFERSONIAN . . . . . . . . . . Westbound . . . . . . . . . . Lv. New York . . . . . 6:15 P.M. Lv. Philadelphia . . . 7:43 P.M. Lv. Washington . . . 6:20 P.M. Lv. Baltimore . . . . . 7:05 P.M. Lv. Harrisburg . . . . .9:42 P.M. Ar. Columbus . . . . . 6:46 A.M. Ar. Dayton . . . . . . ..8:21 A.M. Ar. Indianapolis . . . .9:27 A.M. Ar. St. Louis . . . . . .1:50 P.M. . . . . . . . . . . Eastbound . . . . . . . . . . Lv. St. Louis . . . . . . 1:00 P.M. Lv. Indianapolis . . . . 5:07 P.M. Lv. Dayton . . . . . . . .8:13 P.M. Lv. Columbus . . . . . .9:35 P.M. Ar. Harrisburg . . . . . 6:51 A.M. Ar. Baltimore . . . . . . 9:23 A.M. Ar. Washington . . . .10:10 A.M. Ar. Philadelphia . . . . .8:52 A.M. Ar. New York . . . . . .10:25 A.M Recreation car facilities available to Baltimore and Washington passengers between Harrisburg and St. Louis.
PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD Serving the Nation
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Enjoy! Tom
<R&S #20 RS-2, first diesel loco made in Canada by MLW - personal foto>
Awwwwwwright, it's the day BEFORE Friday here at the Watering Hole by the Wayside!
Now that we're past the breakfast hours - let's move on to lunch! Some fine sandwich selections on our Menu Board!
Had a most difficult morning getting to the bar. Major telecommunications outage in our neck o' the woods - lost the landline fone ‘n high speed internet service. Odd though that the cable TV still functioned - all on the SAME system. Hmmmmmm. Gremlins, watchagonnado, eh Lots of digging going on ‘round here - probably struck a line. Oh well . . . life's an "itch" then you die! <grin>
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Wednesday - July 9th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 52 - Fergie <Fergmiester> at 9:21 AM <11:51 AM Newfie time>: Most surprising visit from our wayward mariner - but appreciated! Been a looooooooong time since you kicked off a day for us!
A bit "old" for that sorta thing, aren't ya Speaking of bouncing ‘round in those Zodiacs - or whatever similar craft you use. <grin>
I'm NOT a Scotch drinker - but that's a good ‘spin' on the name! <grin> Always have equated Scotch with iodine . . . not that I've consumed the latter. <ugh> Wonder if they still sell it for injuries <iodine, that is!>
I suppose the world is full of colonialists - as you put it. Everyone had to come from somewhere, eh I get a kick out of people who wear their nationalities on their sleeves - as if THEY had anything to do with the circumstances that created ‘n built the countries they reside in. <oooooooops> I'm way AND in violation of our House Rules! Soooooo, I'll polish the foot rail at the bar. <geesh> AND, Boris - ring the ding - a round on Da Bossman! <triple geesh>
Good to see ya aboard ‘n appreciate the ROUND!
Page 52 - Pete <pwolfe> at 11:36 AM: A spate of three fotos from our Bar Chandler who has been doing quite well at helping out with the AM daylite "slot"!
Wondering whether you have been READING the AM Acknowledgments prior to Posting - hmmmmmmm. Wondering ALSO if that's a <tweetable> OH-FEN-Sssssssss if you haven't <gulp> Anyway, DO appreciate your extra-effort in absence of CM3 Shane . . . really has been helping.
Enjoyed that foto of the King George in the shed with passengers seated on the benches . . . almost looks like a model! Does that say "Bristol Fan" on the front name board
"7821" looks like quite the beast - nice color <colour> too!
Page 52 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4 PM: While I'm in no position to refute your comments regarding the Whiskey vs. Whisky "thing" <I do believe UTB Jan Olov covered this many, many months ago . . .> BUT let me tell you that the site where I got that image spelled it with an "e" . . . go figger, eh Anyway, when you enlarge the image - it shows the Scottish way of spelling. So when in Scotland - I'll be sure to drop the ‘e' . . .
I recall that you provided us with some fotos on the original Thread of that area you described where the bridge used to be. Hopefully the weather conditions will be suitable for a visit to the area . . . Should be fun.
My guess is that one wouldn't be able to purchase either the Lionel or American Flyer versions of the Freedom Train as advertised in their catalogs. Limited runs ‘n probably now relegated to the category of OUTRAGEOUS . . . but the fotos are nice to look at, eh
I had put the Ives Trains "thing" up at "Our" Place I ‘n II . . . with full narrative. Decided to just go with the fotos ‘n provide a link for the reading matter. Makes it easier all ‘round. Glad you enjoyed it all!
Thanx for the foto of the narrow gauge steamer . . . great background of low-level clouds ‘n the steam! Probably a real good one for black ‘n white!
Appreciate the < I3 > Post ‘n ROUND!
Page 52 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:38 PM <2:38 AM Thursday GMT>: And the Mighty Man didn't disappoint - dropped by with a typical Nick submission, providing the crew with all kinds of things to absorb.
Hey, Mate! There's NO NEED for any apology - none - zero, zip, zilch. Probably more concerned about <aboot for Rob> for YOU than my sensitivities. <grin> There's not a man amongst us <'n I stress the word MAN> who can lay claim to not having done careless things when behind the wheel . . . I'm just at a point in life where those days <daze> are behind me. Been there ‘n done that - far too many times to freely admit. <yikes>
There are times when I used to think that a heavy dose of British resolve would do this country good. Nowadays, I'm in wonderment of whether there are sufficient numbers left to provide that "kick in the caboose" needed for those who take this land of mine for granted ‘n are H-bent to turn it into something unrecognizable to people of my generation. <arrrrrrrgggggghhhhh> So, it's good to have a laff now ‘then - just as long as the spirit of it doesn't throw fuel on the fires, eh
Noted you Posted over on "my other Thread" before your visit to the bar - many thanx, Mate - we surely could use a booster shot at that place. Thanx for helping out! I just can't seem to get our GoR to come thru when there's been a drought at that site . . . As often murmured, "We takes what we gets . . ."
You surely have the knack of putting into words a way to bring back images of many a happy day with electric trains. Yes, yes - beneath the bed as a tunnel - most appropriate use, I'd say! Just an oval of track - a string of cars - a headlight <of course> ‘n lots of EYE-MADGE-IN-A-SHUN . . . works, for Moi!
Figured you'd enjoy the SAL - given that you're heading up to Majestic Mount Mentor ‘n your "group participation! <yikes>
< I3 > Post, good cheer ‘n ROUND helped put the capstone on a fine evening!
Page 52 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:45 PM <4:45 PM Thursday NZ time>: Always a treat to have our Resident Downunder Kiwi stop by!
Appreciate the continuing insights regarding the current rail situation in your part of the world. At least you still have freight traffic on the rails - which apparently is a thriving business. Can't all be bad, eh DMUs would be a nice "touch," wouldn't you agree
I must hand it to you guyz with ties to the UK - when it comes to following sports, I'd say it's more of an addiction than a pass time. Songs for Rugby - never knew of such a thing 'til I did a bit of surfing - now I KNOW! Glad you enjoyed 'em . . .
As always, the ROUND of Tui provided the motivation for MORE BEER! Thanx for your < I3 > Post, visit 'n good cheer!
Page 53 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:24 PM ‘n 11:37 PM: Our Manager arrived with a two-fer to close out the nite . . . AND turned the page
To 53! Sooooooooo, what's behind Door #1, Boris Ahhhhhhh, a set of spandex "daily shorties" - appropriately labeled "Monday - Tuesday - Wednesday," etc. These are the "basketball edition" with below the knee lengths ‘n very, very baggy - everywhere other than the "essential" places. <yikes> Congrats, Mate! <grin>
Nothing to fear but fear itself <FDR> my man! Your spate o' four came thru mighty fine - headed up by the RDC-3 at that!
You are so correct - the hobby had to begin somewhere ‘n those tinplate beauties were the dreams of many a kid. I "came in" pretty much as they were departing the scene, although I still recall the OLD Lionel trains that resembled those Ives jobbers - or, perhaps they were Ives. Used to "appear" right before Christmas ‘n disappear about a week later. I loved ‘em . . . belonged to an uncle, I believe. All I can remember is having a good time with ‘em - electric loco - 3 or 4 coaches - all illuminated at that! Was a blast watching ‘em go ‘round ‘n round ‘n round.
I'll refrain from comment on the condition of Boris' shed - Pete's cleaning outfit, et al. <yikes>
< I3> Post, chat, fotos ‘n ROUND most appreciated!
Thursday - July 10th:
Page 53 - Eric <EricX2000> at 12:10 AM <10:10 PM Wednesday Sandbox time>: Yes - FlexLiner - I made a round trip from Kirkwood to KCity aboard it ‘n prior to that, a demonstrator run in JCity for State legislators, etc. Enjoyed it . . . I thought the idea of that train was terrific with the "break away" feature - would've been fine for travel between St. Louis ‘n JCity or KCity ‘n JCity - wouldn't want to spend 5 hours aboard though . . . Anyway, I've discussed this several times on all three of the "Our" Place threads . . . thought those were the DMUs you referred to. By the by, they also called ‘em FlexLiners up in Canada when VIA Rail used ‘em . . .
Good < I3 > Post from the Sandman!
Page 53 - Dan <DL-UK> at 8:57 AM <2:57 PM GMT>: Sorry that I've not had the opportunity to fully explore your offering on this fine day - but as explained above, I've had all sorts of problems getting to the internet. Fortunately, much of this Post was prepared last evening . . . so I'm going to put it "up" while the connection still holds . . .
Will definitely provide commentary in my next round of acknowledgments!
Thanx for being the first daylite customer - otherwise we'd really be in the <doldrums> on this Thursday!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Tom
Hello Tom and all in
I'll have a light lunch please, with half a pint of beer.
Enjoyed the Freedom Train pics Tom, plus other recent picture postings. Yes, I did spot the beer link you mentioned, just not enough time to do it justice!
You commented on the teak cars I mentioned, not sure if you had realised (no reason why you should have) - that these were external teak construction - built this way certainly into the 1930s and possible even for a bit after the war too.
Couple of pics for you to sneak a look at - some of these cars remained in service until the 1970s - with paint on top of the teak varnish by then.
http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/The_Teak_Set/ts_43612.jpg
http://www.lnersvrcoachfund.org.uk/The_Teak_Set/ts_7960.jpg
Sounds like many regulars appreciated (Rob, Allen, Pete, Nick certainly remarked on it) - the east coast steam run description I posted - glad you enjoyed it - Yes, Nick - very much like one of those old trips - would have been more appropriate if I'd arrived by bike, but apart from that it was very good. At the time it seemed highly ironic that a P-Way freight turned up at this great spot at just the moment!
In a way this was rough justice for 2 other chaps who had turned up, and in what I thought was incredibly bad form, driven up the footpath (which is illegal) and parked at the point and set up video cameras to film - all because they were too lazy to park 300 yards away on the track. It annoyed me because they were perfectly respectable enthusiasts - that sort of thing gives everyone a bad name and more importantly gives the farmer an excuse to try and get the path closed. I don't suppose, for example, if I'd driven my car in their garden they'd have been best pleased!
Thinking of The Young Ones Neil would have said it was the ‘bad karma' from their cars that made the freight arrive at the wrong time (I suspect these Young Ones comments are lost on our transatlantic pals!!)
Pete - yes, you can get Harvey's Christmas Ale in bottles too - it is strong stuff. Thanks for the info on the KATY trail; - your description makes it sound quite long - how long is it? I like cycling old rail lines where possible as it is easy to make quick distance due to the broadly level grades. The Tissington Trail in the Peak District is nice (part of the old Ashbourne to Buxton LNWR line).
Yes, I did get my copy of Fire at WH Smiths - it is not bad - someone forgot to proof read it though as it has quite a few mistakes in it! (Mostly typos of course).
You are right about the A4 whistle - I did not realise it was special as I've not got enough experience of steam whistles what with not being old enough - but it sounded great. We heard the whistle and then saw the plume of steam in the distance a second later - helps build up the excitement!
Plenty of Bateman's outlets here as a local small pub chain has their beers as a house beer so easy to get. I've visited the Brewery too at Wainfleet - one stop before Skegness and next to the station - a great day out.
Eric - thanks for the confirmation about the T44 and the interesting Israel link.
Rob - again nice pics from your collection - thanks.
Allan - thanks for your further comments on KiwiRail - interesting information. As well as the BR Mk2 I hear a whole load of Irish Rail BR design Mk 3 carriages are going up for sale as they are replacing a lot of their mainline stock. There is talk of some of them coming here. The Mk3 is a superb carriage design and we need more cars so if they did it would be good.
I read some BR Mk2 were being converted to commuter cars in NZ with additional doors being installed mid car. Maybe some will be kept in their conventional format for longer distance services too.
I located Waipukurau using multi map - I can see the rail line you mention running through - near the highway corridor it seems. That lake near by looks large. Helps give me a handle on the geography of your neck of the woods.
All the best
DL
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, no, I think I'll have a #2, please! Yes!
I am afraid I can't post any photos tonight. Apple's server is down due to maintenance and upgrading. They just warned for a strong thunderstorm coming this way, will be here in 10-14 minutes (do they have timetables?) so I am afraid this will bea brief visit. Again.
Tom – Be in a hurry in the late evening? Why not? I had a few more things I needed to get done before hitting the sack last night. That’s why I was in a hurry. Flexliner is the name Amtrak gave that train. It was in the US 1997. Photos on the link.http://www.trainweb.com/accommod/jpg_flex.htmSome very old toy trains! And a couple of street cars. The electric in photo #3 looks like NYC #113 at the museum! How old (roughly) are those toy train cars? Fergie – Thanks for the drink, “Famous Gross” or not! Pete – Nice photos! The blue route color coding? Did I miss something? I am still amazed every time I see phjotos of British steam engines, always so shiny, sparkly clean! Even the bell on No 6000 King George is very shiny!Old locomotives (without electronic stuff) were like human beings. You talked nicely to them and that was many times enough to get them going. If not, all you needed was a broom stick and/or some copper wire. Those were the days. I am sure the Peak class locos were like that.It is still on the warm side here in the desert, but at least not over 110Ëš. Instead the moonson has started which brings higher humidity, thunderstorms and dust storms. Was that D&SR photo taken in Durango? Doesn’t look quite like it and it is not from Silverton. But it is snowy! Nick – Your hi-jacking was the right thing! You know, it is like UFO’s, you think you see something but you don’t or you see something else. The good thing with digital cameras is that you can take as many photos as you want (it doesn’t cost any more) and finally you catch something.TV stardom? Believe it or not, but I have been interviewed a number of times on TV and radio in the old country and here in the US, mostly in connection with the X2000, but stardom, no. Which is just fine with me. I don’t think I would like it. Be careful when you try the Israeli link! Allan – I sent you some heat in a sack the other day, hope you can use it!
Eric
Back again Leon just a top up,please and set up a round for the gang,I'm affraid at just what my prize may be for flipping to page 53 <uh oh >Here are a couple random shots to wind up the business day for me with.
A CP RDC 3 at Niagara falls this shots from the late 70's 76 or 77
A shot from Binghamton NY one of my first if not first train shots from the late 80's. A crusty old Conrail U30b
Another shot from that same trip to NY state in '88 A leased or factory owned ( not sure which ) Alco RS36 somewhere in upstate NY,this was liekly an ex D&H engine but I'm not entirely sure.
One of the CN converted SW1200's in Toronto in the early 90's
enjoy
Rob
Good evening Leon old thing, I'll have a Blue with oh what the heck I'll have the same as Eric the rumpsteak make mine medium rare though.
Tom-Some fine pics of the fine old Ives trains. I've seen a few up close and personal at various trains shows over the years and the prices are not for the faint of heart,ah the good old days of litho'ed tinplate.I've never been a fan ,but the hobby had to start some where eh
Yes TO's PD are some of the best around,they do aim to keep the metropolis as safe as possible.Thanks for the heads up on the upcoming forum follies,I quite often forget to log off anyway so I'll be okay
Fergie-Good to hear from you briefly, thanks for the round <burp<I aggree with you those words need the U to make them complete and properGlad you've been enjoying the shots
Eric-Yes those F40PH3's are what I would politly refer to as "fugly" Nice shot of the Burlington passenger car as well. Where was that again
Pete-Today's pics were prety good too,anytime one catches live steam on any sort of permanent media be it print film digital or whatever it's a good thing I heard that teh local police forces bloodhounds have been put out of commision by your fleeing garments,seems the overpowering stench of Boris's shed has played havoc with thier noses,they are shipping in a new kennel full as we speak.
Nick-Your roiight on the money it was the DT&I that good Mr Ford built that catenery for,last time I was down their some of those concrete arches are still standing.I have a feeling that should Steve and I ever cross paths, what is now assumed to be normal will be turned on it's ear.Too many people with my sence of twisted humour together in one place acan't be good ( it would be fun but only for those participating )
I look forward to your endevour re a DTI GP
Allan-Hmmm, I wonder how much a passage like that would cost ( and how long ) My luck they would make me swab the deck.
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Nick. Those Intercity 125`s in Aussie are run with de-rated engines as the track work in New South Wales can`t cope with their top speed, the BR Mk2 coaches are very popular with those NZ`ers` who have travelled in them as they are much quieter and ride better than the old NZ railways late 1930`s rolling stock. A nice collage of pix over on the other thread including those 158 DMU`s, Intercity 125 and the unknown DMU. The next test against the Boks at Dunedin on Saturday should get a lot uglier as their are a few scores to settle from the last game. I totally agree with your comments about Jonny, he puts 100% into all facets of his game no matter the challenges`arising.
Rob. Some of the freight ships` coming this way have fare paying passenger accomodation on board so there is another option to flying. Enjoyed all your loco and trolley pix.
Pete. Nice shots of #60009 Union of South Africa, the German E41 008 from Alan, and the nice GWR loco shots, and the Silverton loco shot from you. If I see some pix of the refurbished BR Mk2 coaches I will try to get a URL link for you. Should be a lot more fisticuffs in the next Boks game on Saturday.
Eric. Some nice pix of the Burlington car, the German Class E41 (now 141), and SP #5021.
Fergie. Nice to see you in on a visit.
Tom. Our East Coast rail line is classed as a mainline, it connects with the Main Trunk line at Palmerston North and serves the cities` of Hastings, Napier, and Gisborne. It looks highly unlikely that we will ever see the return of the old "Bay Express", that used to stop here in Waipukurau, the line has a lot of freight traffic 24/7 as the Port of Napier has a very busy export and import throughput. Nice posts on the Ives model RR`s with all the pix and the URL link too. It`s a very long time since I sang some of those Rugby songs that were on that site you posted the URL for. Many thanks for the heads up about staying logged on to the forums all over the weekend.
See ya, Allan
Well good evening gentlemen all, I hope this finds you well-Leon,a large drink please and the same for the company-before I start :-TOM-My sincere apologies for leading you down a bad stretch of memory lane with regard to Tom Jnr-was extremely thoughtless of me-narrative convention requires a certain mild embellishment of situations-at no time did Simon exceed a speed at which I was comfortable to travel and we had the road to ourselves( although the rain was a genuine b*stard that night ) ,again,my apologies.................
On a happier note-the `Royal address` was an absolute hoot -naturally,I read it whilst standing at attention -is even funnier when you imagine Her Majesty delivering it...
Right-on to posts-and still playing catch up:-
ERIC-I apologise for `hi-jacking` your thunderstorm pic-It is actually an especially fine piece of work-the odds of catching a shot like that must be astronomical -May I also offer belated congratulations on your various anniversaries-and incipient T.V. stardom -wont be long before the networks are tapping your door looking for "the voice of the new American".....Nice pix and stuff also-although ,having seen others words,I will brace myself with drink before exploring the Israeli link...............
DAN-An excellent trip report mate -vividly evokes the classic `spotting` day out-lounging in the sun,listening to the bees buzz and the birds chirp & twitter and enjoying the best of this Islands `green & pleasant` whilst waiting for the unmistakable (and indescribable) sound of a `Streak` running in the collar, growing ever louder--and what an irony,given the appalling deferred maintenance state of the network,to have your view lost to a permanent way train.................Delighted you managed to get something from the weekend though-nice pic links-having looked at `Bittern`,and read PETE`s note,it looks like the low angle of sunlight has `bleached` the colours a touch-check out the coaches behind which also look slightly washed out.....
PETE-Welcome back dear boy,Must admit to mixed feelings on the layout front-am creating a shed load of work for myself here (literally..)-but will be worth it in the long run-just not enough hours in the day......... Also some mixed feelings about VIA Records holding the masters of the bands performance-Its good to get the music out there but with Vito at the corporate helm I doubt we shall ever see a bent brass penny of earnings............
As to Druid the bloodhound,I can see why Conan-Doyle used them for the hound of the Baskervilles-it wasnt the throat-tearing aspect so much as what they did to your lawn that had the locals terrified...........
Incidentally,would be delighted to share your prize trip on the `Daylight`-if we watch each others backs we should both make it home in one piece-quite possibly with our educations completed......
Nice pix of the streak at Perth-suprised at how close the carriage washer is to the platforms-interesting museum pic as well-would be delighted to discover what was going on over in the far left of the pic.....
Now-hampsters-If memory serves,that one was called S.P.G (special patrol group-a right nasty bunch of Thatcherite psychos-trust me on this-we had dealings....) ,had a Glaswegian accent and was owned by Vyvian ,the punk medical student (my fave character(s) were Alexi Sayle`s Balowski family--a brilliant series-still enjoy them now -the episode that manages to combine University Challenge with Motorhead playing `Ace of spades`in the living room remains my favourite.............)
TOM-A cracking layout of the S.A.L-didnt realise until I looked that the livery is exactly right for citrus flowers ,leaves & fruit....-most attractive.....thanks for bringing it to my attention-good call
ALAN-Interested to hear that the old Mk2`s have found a new home-have it in mind that some of the 125`s found homes in Aus as XPT`s -keep us posted -this is an interesting new diversion here at the bar --sounds like a brutal battle betwwen the A.B`s and the Boks-would expect nothing less-delighted you guys took it home-to most Brits who take an interest the Boks are just thugs-at least the A.B`s have some class.......................
Agree that Jonny boy is a great man with the boot,but this overlooks his tactical sense and incredible tackling skills-it takes a very good man to slip past him,shoulder or not.......and when you talk about winning loose ball--utterly fearless...........just what you need in a fly half
ROB-A cascade of brilliant pix from you Sir-that Geep 35 in D.T.I orange has set me going-I am sure I have a set of letters for one of them,plus the numbers-also about a quarter pint of a very flat matt orange paint......................I think my C.N geep could be under new management soon-I feel a project coming on-will look good with my G.T Zebra F3 and/or my blue & red Alco R.S 11 (absorbed D.W&P)--nice one !!!-Am glad you share my taste for appalling imagery ( you will get on SOOOOO well with Steve the drummer )--You mentioned Henry Ford-have it in mind that one of the roads he had an interest in, he paid for complete electrification with concrete arches for the overhead wires-ring any bells with you...?????
FERGIE-Take care out there mate...remember--no pain,no gain (or so they tell me...)-did you manage to get that lovely new engine out on the tracks before you got the call ?????
O.K:- thats me I believe,got everybody covered,--aha-knew I had missed a bit-TOM-what a delightful spread of tinplate glory-most of it a bit before my time but every shot radiating the pleasure the original owners took in them-pieces of history now but easy to imagine how many Xmas mornings were lost in contemplation,imagining whichever express it was ,lying flat on the floor watching her come round again at eye level-using the space under the bed as a tunnel and so on............
Right-definately bedtime-speak soon guys---Leon-a last round before I go
Now that Pete has provided his 2nd Post . . . I can "release" this one!
Took note of your dentist visit - which means we'll need some mid-late morning HELP at the bar! Any takers Remember, CM3 Shane is away 'til the 17th . . .
Here's Part Deux of the Ives Foto Gallery for this Wednesday OP-SHUN-UL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!
<see narrative in this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ives_Manufacturing_Company>
(7) Ives trains - The red variation of the early Empress car - note 3 color litho, full litho frame and black roof with silver celestory trimed in red. <credit: Ives Train Society>
(8) Ives trains - Blue Harvard car with dark green frame circa 1910-11. <credit: Ives Train Society>
(9) Ives trains - The first 6 observation car, it was really nothing more than a No 72 body cut off at the door and an observation platform added. <credit: Ives Train Society>
(10) Ives trains - Circa 1922 Chair Car. Chocolate brown body with olive green roof. Rivet detail, \"M\" style trucks that are embossed. <credit: Ives Train Society>
(11) Ives trains - Circa 1920-22. Leftover green 552 body on an 8 wheel frame, last series trucks with spring and rivet detail. <credit: Ives Train Society>
(12) Ives Trains - No. 68 observation car, green, steel litho on trucks punched for, but not having journals. <credit: Ives Train Society>
That's IT!
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
TOM. OCH THE NOO, you are really in trouble with the folks north of the English border Scotch Whisky doesnae have a ‘E'" in it. The Scots are very particular about it.
I think you will enjoy Pat's Place it really is a traditional bar, it dates from the mid 1800s and was originally known as the West End saloon. It is on the street where the first bridge across the Missouri River at Jeff City was, when it became known as the First and Last Saloon as the other side of the river was ‘dry' so it was the last place to have a drink when heading across the bridge or the first coming back. There is a little park where the abutment of the old bridge is with some boards showing old photos and information.
It is good to see the 1947 Freedom Train is available today from Lionel it looks a good model and I see it is possible to get the cars, that do not come with the set, to make the full train up.
Many thanks for the Rugby songs link. In 028, one of my favorites, it even as a railway connection mentioning "The mighty CPR".
I think you are right about all those hits for Our Place but perhaps there are a few who regularly look in but don't post, I guess we will never know.
Many thanks for the URL and photos of the Ives Company. It is very interesting the rivalry between Ives and The Lionel Company with Lionel taking over Ives in the end. I was thinking about the Clockwork Boats Ives made and was wondering about when the spring wound down, I guess one had to go in the lake and rescue it, if it did not sink first which seemed to happen a lot.
I believe I have seen a couple of the Ives 3243 electric locomotive in museums in California and I liked the Baggage Car.
ROB Thanks for the kind words on Alan's photos yes, he gets great photos on the railtours, as it so hard to get photos when traveling on the trains as most of the rest of the passengers have the same idea. I have used the latest ones up now so I'm afraid it will have to be mostly mine until I Alan sends the next ones over.
The overalls and boots unfortunately ran off on their own towards the Can-Am Gorge as soon as I took them off.
FERGIE Glad you are enjoying the photos and thanks for the drink.
Hope the sea stays calm for your work in those fast rescue boats.
ERIC Many thanks for the photos of the Burlington Car, SP # 5021 and the German Class 141 electric. It is still strange to see the locomotive without the Yellow Warning panel.
That is very true about the computers used on the modern trains to control them and allowing the depot staff to upload data from the computer to find out how the locomotive is operating. It reminded me of a locomotive class introduced well before computers, the 1959 introduced 1Co-Co-1 ‘Peak' class diesels on BR. In their last days we had a very good railtour run hauled by one 45115, After we arrived back at Birmingham we had a chat with the driver, he liked the class, he said with the Peaks, they would give a week's notice before they were going to fail on the road..
Seeing as it still very hot in Arizona and we are in for a hot and humid weekend here, so they say, I thought I would post a snowy photo at Durango.. I have a few more from the D&SR I hope to post at the weekend.
TOM Just caught your special message about the Forum this weekend. Thanks for the heads up and explaining it.
I hope to be in tomorrow after a visit to the dreaded dentist.
A round please RUTH .
Pete.
<northbound ARR Denali Star - personal foto>
SPECIAL - SPECIAL - SPECIAL
Just "lifted' this from another Forum . . . highly recommend you read it:
From our On-Line folksKalmbach's internal customer management database software, Advantage, will be upgraded this weekend."The Advantage fulfillment software is used by our customers to login to our web sites and to recognize subscribers for special web site content access. Advantage is also used to authenticate our forum members.What does this mean? - Limited functionality during the upgrade:New registrations are disabled Customer account management disabled (subscription management; newsletter opt-ins; password changes; email updates) Customer account login disabled No access to the forums unless cookies are enabled and already stored by the customer "And the work-around is:"As a way around this limitation - the subscriber/registration wall will be lifted - this effectively creates a "free access" weekend This special feature should limit customer frustration by not prompting them on the web site to login/register/subscribe - when this feature is disabled by the Advantage upgrade"
So, what does this mean to us If you LOG OFF you will NOT be able to get back onto the Forums this weekend. So, when you are through Posting - just go about your daily routine WITHOUT logging off. That way your 'puter will keep your access to the Forums in an "active mode."
Later . . .
P.S. Saw two of our guys "peeking in" this afternoon . . . but NO visits here!!! Remember - if YOU Post, then I'll Post - otherwise <doldrums>
Nice to see a visit from our Most-irregular-Part-part-time-Resident Canadian Martime Mariner - Fergie! Helped in keeping the AM "flow" - errrrrrrrrr, flowing!
And then came Bar Chandler Pete with his mid-day foto offering!
Okay - so it's Wednesday which means: OP-SHUN-UL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!
A gallery of Ives Trains . . .
(1) Ives Toy trains <credit: Ives Train Society>
(2) Ives trains - Dark Green 3243, brass plates, Circa 1926 <credit: Ives Train Society>
(3) Ives trains - Dark red 3243, rubber-stamped, circa 1922-24 <credit: Ives Train Society>
(4) Ives trains - The original electric trolley in 1910 this 810 got its power from the overhead pole. This trolley sold with a circle of track and ten poles that pulled electricity from the track. <credit: Ives Train Society>
(5) Ives trains - The earliest Ives Trolley around 1910. The mechanical trolley is a Princess car with a clockwork motor and an overhead pole. <credit: Ives Train Society>
(6) Ives trains - A Yellow baggage car (circa 1905-08). This one has a red door indicating that it came with red cars. Ives also made a white or cream variation of this car that also had red and gold lithographed details. <credit: Ives Train Society>
More to follow!
A cup of coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH, while I drop off some photos.
After seeing Alan's photos of LMS/LNER power on the North Briton I thought I would post a couple of my photos of Great Western Railway locomotives.
Manor class 4-6-0 No 7821 Ditcheat Manor at Loughborough on the Great Central Railway.The blue route colour coding, we talked about at the bar a while back, can be seen above the number on the cabside. In 1958 No 7821 was allocated to Tyseley shed in Birmingham.
On the West Somerset Railway at Dunster, I believe, is GWR 6400 class 0-6-0 Pannier Tank No 6412, this loco was shedded at Newport (Ebbw Junction) in South Wales in 1958.
Flagship of the GWR King class No 6000 King George V at the STEAM museum on part of the site of the once great Swidon Works of the GWR. 6000 is carring the bell presented to the locomotive when it attended the B&O centenery celebrations in 1927. In 1958 No 6000 worked off Old Oak Common shed in London.
Back in a while.
Good Morn'n Captain Tom and Company
Been Spending a lot of time in the Fast Rescue Craft the last few days with the scientists, collecting water sample around the rigs off Newfoundland. So on that short note I'm buying but PLEASE... Keep the Bilge Cleaner/Carbon Remover away from me! Tom... How can ya drink that "Famous Gross"?!?
Anyway enough said Yes it's been busy but I'm here and as always love the Pics Gentlemen! Especially the Nice yellow one provided in Rob's Collection. The Baltimore Peter Wittis being released by Bachmann in HO, MR had a review in this month's magazine and it looks like a definite keeper!
Nick: Sorry for you pain, but you shall have to endure the self inflicted wound as the rest of us must from time to time!
Tom: E-mail rec'd, Though her Majesty was not amused but hey I'm a colonialist too so what the heck! Though I have to agree with the "U" spelling thingy! All those words without a U is so un-civilized!!
I'll leave now
Fegie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Wednesday's Witticism
Next to hoss rustlin', curiosity is the most dangerous crime.
Mid-week in mid-continent USA ‘n time again to fill up those coffee mugs - check out the pastries ‘n order up a <light> or <traditional> breakfast!
Comments from the Proprietor
CHANGE #1: I'll be here on Thursday ‘n Friday . . . But will be gone-zo for the remainder of this AM.
Tuesday - July 8th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 52 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:13 PM: I see our Manager returned for a nite-check of the place along with some good chat!
Yeah, I recall some HO models of the Freedom Train . . . don't recall who made ‘em though - but I "see" the Pix in my mind's eye!
We walked through all the cars making up the Branson Scenic Railway ‘n found the cars to be in good condition. Signs of wear ‘n tear, of course, but overall - not bad considering how many people climb aboard them for the multiple daily runs. Dome glass was also in decent shape, which it would have to be in order to take in the scenery of the Ozarks.
Good to know that the Toronto PD has no tolerance for the types of AHs discussed . . .
Thanx for helping to keep things on an even keel ‘round here!
Wednesday - July 9th:
Page 52 - Eric <EricX2000> at 12:06 AM <10:06 PM Tuesday Sandbox time>: Okay, lemme see if I understand this - "in a hurry" at that hour Hmmmmmm., just WHERE were you going I'd be heading for the sack, fer sure, fer sure! <grin>
A trio of good shots - thanx!
I don't recall a U.S. tour of DMUs as you described. Wouldn't have been the FlexLiner that I've discussed a few months ago Hmmmmmm.
A little something for everyone in your < I3 > Post!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Leon, time for my Rumpsteak Café de Paris! Always medium! A Cold Tuborg Gold!
I am in a kind of hurry tonite, hope my food won't take long!
Nick – I never noticed you before I posted last night! You must have been hiding behind Boris!Allan – It was a surprise when I saw myself on the news. I never noticed that the camera was that close. A friend of mine bought a copy of it and gave it to me. Tom – Thanks for the info on the Branson Scenic Railway! Three dome cars, that is not bad! All marked Burlington. Also marked Burlington. Needs som work. Atchison, KS.I am sure you know as much as I do about the railroads in Israel. They have a few DMUs built in Denmark. Same type/class that was in the US on a tour in the early/mid 90’s. Rob – Thanks for the info on DT&I! Maybe DT&I tracks were used when my Mercury was shipped from Canada to Phoenix four years ago! I agree about the F40PH3’s nose! Doesn’t look nice at all. Pete – Interesting photos from Alan! The German E41 is now class 141, see photo below. Class 52 is a German “Kriegslok”. In the background is something that looks like a German light DMU, I don’t remember the class.
Class 141, Hamburg, Germany.
You are right, the Israeli T44 looks kind of wild in its livery! It has an EMD 12-645E prime mover.The controls may look different on new locomotives, but that is nothing comparing with what you don’t see, all the electronics (computers) that is used nowadays to control a locomotive. I am glad you understand my age. It’s 27! (++).
SP Class S-2, #5021. Pomona, CA.
Good evening Leon , a round of Keith's for any and all that are interested,if no ones interested then more for me
Pete-More fine fine photo's from Alan, the man just has a great eye for shots ( or he's extremly lucky ) either way they were all good shots.
I do hope that you threw out the coverals and boots once you were done,you did notice that the Hazmat guys were waiting with a power washer and cleaning soap to hose you down with once you were done.
Tom-Good to know that you'll be with us the next couple days (daze) still I'll do what I can to keep her going.Interesting Rugby songs.Nice to see that the domes on the Branson train are of some historic significance ( in that they are real and not reproductions ) They look like they are in decent shape as well.
If I remember correctly didn't IHC/AHM make a US Freedom train I know they made a 50 states express and a Canadian Centenial train as well .
That JO still frosts my behind,so many could have been hurt or killed as there were a lot of kids on the car from that school.A few people each year manage to get hit by jerks like that in Toronto,however the police always come down quite ehavy on them when they are caught, and they usually always are as all the streetcars and buses carry cameras
<southbound Denali Star at Fairbanks, Alaska - personal foto>
Upon giving some second thought to the matter, figured I'd complete my catch-up acknowledgments this evening. I've had a couple of days <daze> experiencing problems getting "on" to the Forums in the early morning hours <5:30 AM on . . . > ‘n since I'm pressed for time on Wednesday, say no more! <grin>
Page 52 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:57 AM: Oh yeah, I'll NEVER forget that JO-AH who could've killed one or more with that very dangerous ‘n thoughtless driving . . . wonder if the driver even knew what kind of a situation was unfolding Oblivion - a land somewhere near Oz so I've been told. <uh oh>
Not wise to feed dog's cheese - anything that is "processed" isn't good for ‘em - but then again, we KNOW that from Nick's most-descriptive episode! <yikes>
Many thanx for the AM visit ‘n helping to keep the joint rockin' . . .
Page 52 - Pete <pwolfe> at 12:03 PM: Good to see you keeping to the earlier "slot" - really is helping out in absence of CM3 Shane . . . Sure would be nice to have a dependable noontime customer . . . that would really be a plus ‘round the Bar by the Ballast!
You'll have to tell us ‘bout the dog rescue . . .
Three fine fotos ‘n a ROUND!
Page 52 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:37 PM: Back with the other end of your two-fer!
Yes, good speaking with you <again> but sorry ‘bout the problems encountered. We'll get our Rendezvous orchestrated for next week! Looking forward to finally seeing Pat's Place - I mean we've heard SO MUCH ‘bout this joint, that it just BETTER be good! <grin>
Sorry ‘bout that URL - it most probably expired, since I copied it from my archives from over a year ago . . . <groan>
Not sure about <aboot for Rob> Lionel or American Flyer <Gilbert> offering their versions of the Freedom Train "back in the day." However, check this link for more current models of the Freedom Train <scroll down>
http://www.freedomtrain.org/html/ft_memorabilia.htm
I don't wanna know anything more regarding a hamster in the soup! <yikes>
Yes, yes - the point ‘n grunt method does "work" quite well when ordering a brew! <grin>
Rugby songs Click this link:
http://www.rugbysongs.net/RugbySongs.htm
If we were to add up the "hits" for all the iterations of "Our" Place - I'd say we're close to a million. Obviously there's interest out there . . . then again, I'd say the majority of those "hits" come from web searches on this ‘n that . . . which steer one to us. Probably don't even take the time to scroll up ‘n down the Page - just seek out whatever they are looking for ‘n move on. Isn't that the ‘way' of cyber space
Many thanx for part deux of a fine < I3 > Post along with another ROUND!
If I don't make it "in" tomorrow morning - it's because of Forum problems! <groan>
<Mt. McKinley, Alaska - personal foto>
Finally able to spend a bit o' time playing catch-up from last nite's offerings . . .
Expected the world to come to an end in these parts with a severe weather warning - but it didn't materialize <yet> . . . <phew> Petrol is at $3.90 <rounded> up at "Collusion Corner" ‘n the humidity is thick enuf to slice with a knife! <ugh> Yeah, yeah - dry heat is better-er!
Have a personal change to my busy week - appears that I won't be away on Thursday ‘n Friday . . . <phew>
Okay - time to catch-up:
Monday - July 7th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 51 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:03 PM: A little something for everyone in your evening commentary . . .
Laffing is good tonic - just as long as it is kept within the bounds of respect ‘n doesn't get overly personal. You'll not see me making derisive comments about anyone's heritage or national origin. Just not my style . . .
Seems to Moi that Pete wasn't the ONLY guy "confused" ‘bout Ruth not being here. Hmmmm. <grin>
The Citadel of Flatulence Chanting <an OH-FISH-UL historic Can-Am County landmark> has been rumored <rumoured> to have assisted in the production of some of the nastiest ENT agents ever put into canisters. Wouldn't surprise me to learn of an H&H connection in terms of ancestry. Hmmmmmmm.
Appreciate the visit, chat ‘n business! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Page 52 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:33 PM <2:33 AM Tuesday GMT>: Turned yet another Page! Okay, sooooooooo what is behind Door #1, Boris Yeah - he'll like that - an Imperial quart of Famous Grouse . . . perhaps one of the better known Scotch whiskeys we have. Enjoy!
Ahhhhhhh, but I've "heard" that the squeals of delight on "that nite" at the Harbour Castle Hotel were so loud ‘n repetitious as to drown out the sounds of banshees, gulls, backfiring motor vehicles ‘n ‘lectric guitars gone wrong. I'd say she GOT satisfaction - perhaps NOT in both OH-FISH-UL languages however! <grin>
Funny thing about disappointments when it comes to expectations. Keep ‘em low <expectations> ‘n the disappointments will take care of themselves - or something like that. Anyway, it would all be new to me - so no point in making comparisons, eh
Smiled at all <grin>, except ONE portion of your commentary - the driving at dangerous speeds in awful weather conditions. Memories still haunt at the loss of my oldest . . . <sorry> just came back at me. <sad>
Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n good cheer! <clink>
Page 52 - Eric <EricX2000> at 9:12 PM <7:12 PM Sandbox time>: The consist of the Branson Scenic Railway included 3 dome cars -
BSRX 9540, "Silver Island", 1947 Budd Dome Lounge (From CB&Q, Twin-City Zephyr) -
PPCX 800287, "Silver Garden", 1952 Budd Dome Lounge Coach (From CB&Q, Kansas City Zephyr) -and -
BSRX 9320, "Silver Terrace", 1952 Budd Dome Observation (From CB&Q, Kansas City Zephyr)
Spent 3 days ‘n nites in Oslo - was a fine time ‘n would dearly love to visit there again - spending much more time. I've always preferred "living in the community" as opposed to hotels for long stays.
Concur about Dances With Wolves - a fine motion picture. Perhaps one that should have had a sequel . . . just hated to see it end.
Fine looking Swedish loco in that link! Surely know zilch, zero, zip regarding railroading in Israel . . .
Many thanx for the < I3 > Post, foto - link ‘n good cheer!
Page 52 - Allan <Gunneral> at 10:52 PM <5:52 PM Tuesday NZ time>: Thanx very much for the update regarding the passenger rail progress in Kiwi country! Really hope it turns out well ‘n receives the ridership to convince the "powers" to maintain it properly.
Do you expect to see passenger service at Waipukurau in the near future I'm assuming you are not located along the main line. Anyway, there's just something about <aboot for Rob> having an active passenger link in one's hometown.
Mention of Dunedin brought to mind a fond memory - used to live in a sub-division in southern Virginia by that name - nearly 5 years of the good life.
Every now ‘n then I'll watch the DVD of ABBAs hits ‘n <drool> when those gals "do their thing" - my, my how THEY have aged when seeing ‘em today in the media. <grin> Sure were "lookers," eh Sounded fine too!
Well, it took a bit of doing, but it appears that my idea for a "prize" for Nick has caught the attention <phew> of the gang! <groan> <cough> <tears> <yikes> Was that YOU
Still hanging onto our records here - but honestly don't know why. Play a few now ‘n then - but wonder, what happens to ‘em when we are gone-zo Probably should catalog ‘em ‘n put ‘em up for auction. At least they'd find a ‘happy home.'
Many thanx for the fine < I3 > Post ‘n ROUND!
Today's acknowledgments in the 'morrow!
TOM Great to talk with you today.
Great to see Alaska Railroad #1 again, interesting link to the ARR steam locomotive models, it good to see #1 modeled in working condition. Unfortunately the photo did not appear in the second URL. I remember talking about the Moose Gooser Train at the bar.
Yes the 4th was a great day at the bar; I missed being here but really enjoyed reading the posts, talking of reading the posts, I see we have passed 20,000 views at Our Place III.
I find now the best way for me to get the beer I want is to point at the tap.
Scotland or York to Nick's place could be done with just one change of train I believe.
I wonder if Lionel produced a train set featuring the 1949 Freedom Train, I bet it would be a very sought after collectors item today.
Talking about frightening people away there is a great piece in the latest Trains Magazine about an L&N boarding house I must show you.
ROB Thanks for the heavy bitter, a mid week treat for me. Luckily the coveralls and the rubber boots lasted a lot longer than my smile while cleaning BORIS's shed.
It sounds as though it was lucky you came across the museum in St Charles, it will be good to see the other photos.
Thanks for the explanation on the empty trolley.
NICK Sounds like you had an interesting weekend. Ah the downside of vegan living it reminded me of when Neil's hamster fell in a pot of his lentil soup in the Young Ones.
I am sure there was a Rugby song about a contestbut can't recall the words.
ERIC Thanks for the URL although the livery on Israel Railways #131 is a bit of a shock when it first comes up.
I understand your age now I think.
Yes the controls of the modern units and locomotives are almost unrecognizable compared to those of the first generation of diesels and electric locomotives.
Many thanks for the photo of C&NW # 1385.
ALLAN It will be good to get your impression of those ex BR MkII coaches if you get a chance to ride in them. I used to enjoy riding on them on BR. It is good KiwiRail is going to have named trains for their long distance passenger trains.
It was good game of Rugby. One thing I noticed though, is that there seems to be free kick awarded in the Southern Hemisphere for an infringement at a ruck etc, whereas back home the refs seem to award penalties for the same offence, or perhaps it just seems that way to me.
Thanks for the information on the NZ railways.
Well RUTH a Bathams for me and a round please, while I fire up the scanner.
Running late today after playing dog rescue earlier, so a round please RUTH..
Back later with my post, but I thought I would post some of Alan's photos.
From April 15th 2008 on the return of the North Briton tour at Perth,the other A4 that took part in last weekend,s 70th anniversary run No 60009 Union of South Africa.
This next one is a taste which is on Alan's next film, a trip to Germany on April 19th 2008. At Dieringhausen Museum, the loco on the left is E41 008 and the steam loco is 52 8116 the main line is above the engines.
Good morning Ruth you've been missed,I see that Boris and the critters gave you their usual warm sloppy kisses.<uh oh > Kind of makes you want to head back out doesn't it ( just ask Tom )
In with a quick AM post will likely be back later though.
Tom-Thanks for the heads up, we'll do what we can do for you no worries mate Those Carlton runs are usually full,at times when we were on that car it was close to standing room but the people tend to "cattle" on and off,you took that shot close to Queen east most of the humans got of a couple stops before ( I tell you it was Ted's cologne )Right after you took that shot remeber that JO that tried to pass the car on the right
Nick-For some reason my eyes were awatrering while I was reading your post do to A leaughing and B other stuff Sooo Vito has the Maggie tapes does he,that explains some things,as to Copperkettle's costume aparently he found it in Boris's shed,he said that the leather helmut cuts down on the wind resistance when he cuts the Tardis drive in.One would thuink a could plate of bagers and mash with a side of beans would do that as well,but then one woudn't need the tardis drive either,the scarf then becomes a necessary<ahem>accessory.
Just be thank-full that you didn't feed the dog a bunch of cheese before his performance in the feild ( a story best told later )
Allan-Thanks for the warm invite NZ and Aus are definatly on our bucket list as well. I wonder if theer are any Trans Pacific liners from Vancouver
Eric-The DT&I was the Detroit Toledo and Ironton Railraod GT swallowed them up in the mid seventies,they were predominantly a manufactured goods haulling road and good 500 miles of trackage from what I understand heavuily involved in the auto industry. If memory serves Henery Ford had some doings in the lines start up.
As for those shots from Joliet,the Metra unit is one of their F40PH3's just a satndard F40ph-2 with the unique nose job.I've never heard why they did that clearances maybe,it certainly does not improve the looks.
Keep safe out there in electrical storm alley.
Tuesday has rolled ‘round once again. Time to fill up those coffee mugs - order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast ‘n sample a pastry or three from The Mentor Village Bakery case!
HEAD's UP! I'll be away from the bar for most of this morning into mid or late afternoon.
Wednesday I'm also gone for most of the morning following the AM acknowledgments.
Thursday I'll provide the AM acknowledgments - but then I'm gone ‘til Friday afternoon.
Finally - Saturday is the monthly anniversary of the "founding" of "Our" Place - 39th Month! Hopefully we'll get a couple of daylite celebrants . . .
Thanx!
Page 51 - Dan <DL-UK> at 10:32 AM: Good beginning to Monday as our Resident Brit in Sherwood Forest came by with another of his well thought out ‘n informative Posts!
You surely have a knack at putting together a most descriptive portrayal of your adventures along the rights-of-way in the UK. Additionally, using URLs as supportive elements makes them even more worth the while. Nicely done ‘n a Five Salute for taking the time ‘n making the effort to provide us all with your recollections!
Willoughby Arms looks like a comfortable spot to rest the weary bones . . . wouldn't mind a bit of exploration in that place! <grin>
I've only traveled within a rail car adorned with teak wood on one occasion - ‘n it was truly a treat! Such refinements on the rails - must've been quite the experience for the gentry back in the day. The car happened to be an open-ended heavyweight observation car - with a full service bar ‘n a buffet table that seemed endless. A story for retelling at another time . . . as it was told once <or twice> at "Our" Place I ‘n II.
Many thanx for your visit, comments ‘n "report"!
Page 51 - Pete <pwolfe> at 10:51 AM: I probably wouldn't have "jumped" for the 1,000th reply had it not been for Nick "jumping the gun"!! Anyway, no congrats needed - someone was bound to do it. <grin>
So, you "got off light" at the in-laws, eh Can't imagine a "red coat" amidst the Colonials deep in the heart of Missouri! Some places just aren't ‘safe' . . . You must've said the right things <but HOW would they know???>
Figured you'd pick up on that link showing the alcohol content of the brews in the U.S. <'n elsewhere>. I really "always" thought most U.S. beers were at 5.5% - now we know, eh
I was pleasantly surprised at the activity ‘round here on the 4th . . . worked out well. Goes to show that we don't need large numbers of patrons in order to keep the bar active. IT was a good day ‘n nite!
Many thanx for the visit, chat, good cheer ‘n ROUND!
Page 51 - Pete <pwolfe> at 5:05 PM: Back with part deux ‘n as usual, very well done!
Appears that you've done a thorough job with Boris' shed! Inflatables That shouldn't surprise you - he's "pumped" for ‘em! <grin>
I hope you didn't "get wind" of Nick's almost-1000th Post prize! <uh oh> That charcoal filter idea brought a few tears to my eyes - laffing of course!
Yeah - "It had a five in it" will always bring a smile . . .
I too enjoyed our chat ‘n appreciate the opportunities to share a few thoughts ‘n reflections. I'd most certainly revere a trip to the UK with you to the rail museum at York then to Scotland for a night or two. Then the capstone with a trip down to Wales for a couple of nights in Nick's territory. Yeah, that keeps me "young" at heart! <grin>
The Freedom Train that I got to tour in 1949 was really something special. At that age <11> I was aware of the artifacts on board - also the ALCO was one hulluva beauty to look at. Reminded me of those terrific American Flyer S-gauge ALCOs Gilbert put out. Wunnerful, wunneful . . .
Good obs regarding the passengers <or lack thereof> on the Carlton Street trolley . . . Probably was Rob who chased them off - he said, "It must've been something I ate . . . " <uh oh>
Many thanx for the 2nd visit, inclusive comments ‘n 2nd ROUND of the day!
Page 51 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:03 PM: Pends comments . . .
Page 52 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:33 PM <2:33 AM Tuesday GMT>: Pends comments . . .
Page 52 - Eric <EricX2000> at 9:12 PM <7:12 PM Sandbox time>: Pends comments . . .
Page 52 - Allan <Gunneral> at 10:52 PM <5:52 PM Tuesday NZ time>: Pends comments . . .
NOTE: Sorry boyz, but the Forums were inaccessible for me early this AM . . . couldn't get "on" for nearly 2 hours . . . so, it will be catch-up later on . . . Gotta get a move on!
The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please Leon.
Rob. A very nice collection of diesel, inter-urban and trolley pix from you over the past few days`. You would be very welcome over here in NZ any time.
Eric. It would have been a nice surprise to see yourself on the TV on July 4th. A nice selection of random shots including those cab shots on the X2000 and the Class X1 EMU, very nice link to the ABBA video songs on YouTube. Nice pic of C&NW #1385.
Dan. A really great report of your Mallard speed record 70th anniversary expedition, all those A4`s would have been a wonderful sight to behold, would have loved to have been there with you, nice links to those A4 photos` and Little Bytham. KiwiRail have stated they will upgrade all of the named long distance passenger trains, they are currently upgrading the carraiges with refurbished BR Mk2 stock, they are not involved with any of the suburban rail services in Wellington and Auckland at all, except for the supply of diesel locos` on some push/pull services.
Pete. Good to see you back from your trip. Some of those forward passes in the AB/ Boks match were so obvious watching on the TV, I suppose the Ref and the linesmen were looking from a different angle to what we were, it was a good game to watch though.
Nick. Nice to see you are not pushing things too hard. They are on top of the world here with the AB`s win over the Boks, the score was 19-8 to the AB`s, quite a bit of fisticuffs at times as well. Wilko` is a supreme kicker of the oval ball, a pity he has been picked on with a lot of bone crunching tackles and has suffered so many injuries nowadays, he was a great game winner.
Tom. At the moment they are re-equipping all of the named passenger trains with rebuilt British Rail Mk2 carraiges, they are being refurbished at the Hillside railway workshops in Dunedin. The diesel loco fleet is going on about 30 years old now but are being upgraded with new electronic traction control and re-engined as they visit the workshops on their major maintainance programmes`, the electric locos on the central North Island Main Trunk line are about 23 years old now, but are in good mechanical condition. Most of the main town railway stations are still existant, a lot are used as long distance coach pick up points at the moment, our station in Waipukurau is well maintained even though we have no passenger services` now, it is used as a Visitor Centre and Citizens Advice Bureau. A nice selection of random shots including the one of Pete, and the Train Wreck Saloon patio, plus all of the RR ones`. Great prize you awarded Nick for his 1,000 post, will definitely stay upwind of him for a while, the results could be more potent than Mustard gas by the sounds of the menu! Coupla` good flicks for the weekend, Dance with Wolves was a real favourite with my bride. Nice link to the ABBA premier in Stockholm, hard to imagine it`s the 1st time they`ve been together since 1986, we have still got the original LP`s of all their hits from the 70`s and early 80`s, still put them on the record player for a bit of nostalgia sometimes. Nice post on the SAL RR in Fallen Flags #7.
Leon, a ham sandwich is what I desire tonight! A cold Tui will be perfect!
Managed to stop by a little bit earlier that usual tonight. Nice to get inside before we get any thunderstorms over us.
Tom – I like that Empire Builder observation car! That would be nice to have for the next rendezvous! Nice photos!! How many dome cars did the Branson train have? Fall colors are beautiful but they remind me about what is coming next. (ice and snow)It certainly was a quiet Saturday, but we survived. Not even Vito showed up! Your explanation of items and replies is very clear! Yes, Sir! Whatever it was.I am afraid you are right, brunettes are my “weak link(s)”. But my high school love was a red haired beauty. If you liked the Oslo Fjord you would love the other Norwegian fjords, like Geiranger Fjord, Sogne Fjord, and Naeroy Fjord! Wow! I'll show you some photos in a day or two. How long did you stay in Oslo during that visit?Dances with Wolves, one of my favorite movies, have it on tape!! I have never seen Breakheart Pass but it seems to be a very good one too! And, of course, the Three Stooges! SAL! Another of the railroads I don’t know that much about. Now I know more!Interesting info on Alaska Raiload #1 (#6)! Saddle tank, looks a little bit British! Rob – Some interesting locomotives in your photos. I can’t identify the ones in the next to the last photo. Please help!I noticed the photo of the Baltimore City Peter Witt Streetcar at the Baltimore Streetcar Museum! Very interesting. I have seen that museum many times from the train but never visited it. It looks like there is a wig-wag signal behind the Ottawa Street Railway Line Car! DT&I, what railroad was/is that? Swallowed by GT? DL – Swedish beverage? I really don’t know. I wasn’t big on beer then and I honestly don’t remember the different beers they have. But Pripps is as far as I know the largest brewer in Sweden. Class T44 is what you could call a road switcher. It is used both for the road and for switching. They are basically EMD locos but built in Sweden by Nohab and Kalmar Verkstad. One of them was sold to Israel many years ago. See photo on this link.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:131-151.jpgPete – Nick was right, that photo showed the the Zeppelin landing. I think. My age? Depends on how you look at it. I feel like 27 but my birth certificate says something else. 27? Okay, 27+. Really? 27++ then, but that is it! If anyone had said to me back then that I would work in a factory in the future I would have said, “No way! Never ever. Not me!!! But after 29 years with the railroad I did. And drove a big rig. Crazy!That maniac was high on drugs when he shot at me. That is probably why he missed. Thanks for the info on Vito traveling by RDC! And thanks for the congratulations! Time flies!Class X1 and class X2 (X2000) are light years apart. The controls may look kind of similar, but there is a big difference.
C&NW #1385. North Freedom, WI.
Well good evening gentlemen all <poot..> Hope you have all had a <tweet>chance to <grumble> recover from the exertions <brrrrrrrrrrrp> of the weekend <parrrrp>---The story continued at this end <wrrrrrp>-saturday was village carnival night and being the soft touch that I am <HrrrrrrrrrrrrrBBBBBBB---P>I ended up with a housefull of drunken (and worse) nutters needing somewhere <prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp> to sleep it off-You can imagine Missisnicks reaction.......a house full of hungover loonies plus a full-on and well rested small monkey at 7am-.......
Leon-we had better have beers for all please dear boy-set `em up while I am telling my tale of woe
For my part I was still processing a meal which took me right <parrrrp> back to my time <hoooot> living with a vegan sweet young thing (as the estate agents would put it,-a property with a pleasant aspect and an extensive balcony.........)-a wonderful prize which induced much nostalgia-and many open windows
To add spice to the package I had a call from my guitar partner Simon soon after rising-his teenage boy and band had a gig up in Cardiff last night-as they are only 17 would I be prepared to do the old "embarrassing dad and his appalling mate " routine and go up and keep an eye on things-yeah,no worries-turned out the promised 7pm start was actually 10.30 and got home about 3.30 after a both ways trip through biblical rain at dangerous speeds--only rock`n`roll,or so I`m told.............
Right-enough from the strange place that is my life.........on to posts:-
ALLAN-Havn`t seen the A/B`s game yet-or even heard the result-but will happily agree there are some very dubious line calls going on lately........Surely there is enough Brit in you to rejoice in the glory that was Jonno`s thin white line denying the Aussies any ball at all and taking 3 points every time they put a foot wrong-and that last drop-goal............We can live on that until next time.....................
Nice one on the local network -lets hope they can make it work-getting people out of cars and onto trains is the way to go-no easy task-but hey-lets climb a mountain.....
Am taking it nice and easy on both the layout and the job -both can wait a day if neccessary....Your mention of family struck a chord-is none of my business,but when they are gone it`s too late-If there`s just you and your brother-make the effort-who knows whats round the corner........................
ROB-You will be pleased to know that Druid the hound has been banned from the upper fields-(jeeezus-that was not a good moment.....)..As I understand things,Vito`s influence with the govt. relates to certain video tapes concerning `madcap Maggie` Trudeau at the Harbour Castle Hotel back in `77 (I Can`t get no...Da da da.----hey hey hey.....)
I am (or will be ) delighted that the Zeppelin `Draig Goch ` is functioning properly with the `TARDIS` drive system-was something of an experiment-although the sight of Copperkettle dressed in one of Tom Bakers scarves in addition to his normal loincloth and leather helmet is somewhat worrying.....
Some excellent pix from the windy city-love the Battlecreek selection-and of course there is the Joliet link to the Blues Brothers.......good call mate
TOM-what ho mate -A wonderful prize (as noted above)-was aiming for the all-American theme evening..(hence the Bruce Springsteen booking..)-That empire builder car looks like a 5* hotel-you will be sadly dissapointed with what we have over here by comparison-got lost in that jazz site for an hour or two-had to cut and run..........Have read the book of `Breakheart Pass` but never seen the movie
O.K-ERIC,PETE & DAN-will catch up with you all tomorrow-sorry guys but I am flagging-been a long weekend................
Leon-a round for the boys please..............
Take care now,
Good evening Leon,I think a round of guiness will be most welcome this evening.
Tom-Great to see the SAL and the Alaska RR info again, a nice change to see a couple of encores again,and ones with such neat info Thanks for the inbox giggles as well I enjoyed it thoroughly.Some of is ooooh so true.
It will be nice to have Ruth back,poor Pete will stop getting confused. I'm sure that she has enjoyed her looooong weekend.
Dan-Good to see you this morning. A wonderfull tale of the steam excursion. The pictures looked wonderfull too,I aggree with you the Blue scheme on the Sir Nigel is a keeper Bad luck on the freight train though,you would think they would have left the scheduale clear for the historic run.Still the frieght and the economy must move on.mind you a train load of tracl panels could have waited.
Pete- two for one appearance by you today,and you caught up on all the bases in well fell swoop I don't want to know about anything you may or may have not found in Boris's shed. Suffice to say you are a brave man wading in there with nothing but coveralls ,rubber boots and a smile. I hear that there are several countries willing to purchase Nick's prize as a riot control and breaking up substance.I'll buy you a nice heavy bitter due to your duress from that chore. it was a job well done though
You would be right about the C&NW units I don't believe any are still out there ( certainly none of the GP's )Jolliet and Battle Creek were two good train watching spots to be sure.
I'm not sure how big that museum was. It was closed so we didn't investigate as our flight was leaving a couple hours later ( out of the St Charles Airport )I'm not even sure what it's name was I've never been able to even find it on the net.I took a couple other shots from the same poit when I was thier of a 70 ton GE switcher and a coupe old meat reefers which were parked adjacent to the interurban.
Many thanx to Pete for keeping the LIGHT in day-lite! <grin> Otherwise, we'd be in the doldrums, fer sure, fer sure . . .
Here's something Posted about a year ago at "Our" Place II . . . an interesting bit o' info . . .
<personal fotos>
The Davenport Locomotive on the pedestal in front of the Anchorage Depot was never on the roster as #1. It is actually #6 and started life as a 3 foot gauge locomotive that was then standard gauged. It became the ceremonial #1 only because it was a survivor.
from: http://alaskamodelrrnews.homestead.com/Steam.html
Historian Pat Durand says, "Builders #764 by Davenport Locomotive Works October 1907 for the Isthmus Canal Commission where it operated as No. 802. Acquired by the Alaska Engineering Commission as #6 in 1917. This locomotive was 3 foot gauge and was converted to standard gauge and used as a shop switcher in Anchorage. During 1947 she was renumbered No. 1 for use by the Anchorage Lions Club Moose Gooser train on 4th and 5th Avenue during the Fur Rendezvous for two years. Later she was placed on display facing East in front of the Depot. In the 1990, Bob Yost lead a group to a full restoration, short of a new boiler, and she went back on the display facing West."
from: http://www.alaskarails.org/pix/former-loco/JC-arr1.html
P.S. I KNOW Nick is "out there" - saw him Posting elsewhere . . . thought we'd get a "real time exchange" working . . . but not to be. Oh well . . . . CHEERS, Mate <clink> when you get "in"!
Hmmmm, should I <tweet> him for NOT Posting here FIRST Hmmmmm.
Enjoy 'n see y'all in the AM!
A pint of Bathams please RUTH. Catching up, part 2 from my weekend away
ROB Looks like I missed the more outlandish behavior at the 4th of July celebrations, a vision of Copperkettle breaking the time and space continuum is not one to dwell on.
Many thanks for the great photos from Battlecreek and the Chicago area. There is a great variety of motive power at Joliet although I guess it would not be possible to see that great C&NW livery today. Enjoyed the photos of the preserved trolley and interurbans, is that a very large museum in the St Charles district of Chicago.
After clearing out BORIS"S shed, I fear he may be experimenting with inflatables again.
ERIC Many thanks for the varied photos. Very interesting to compare the different controls of the X1 and the X2000.
Enjoyed the U-Tube link to ABBA they really are a talented group.
DL Many thanks for the great and well-written description of seeing the A4s on the 70th anniversary runs. Sir Nigel must have looked a great sight in the BR Blue livery, as in the URL, and there is noting like that chime whistle. I have yet to see her in that livery at speed.
The second spot sounds an excellent place to watch trains at, just real bad luck that a PW train passed at just the wrong moment. Bittern seems in a slightly lighter shade of green but perhaps it is just the way the light is in link.
It is many years now since I was last at the Rutland Railway Museum, I seem to recall they had some interesting locomotives there.
Hopefully next time you are in the area you will be able to call in at the Willoughby Arms, Bateman's is quite a good drop of beer, are there any Bateman houses near you.
TOM
Great to talk with you today.
Got wind of Nick's great prize for nearly getting the 1,000th reply, I don't think the charcoal filter has a chance.
Many thanks for the link to the Freedom Trains. It was a pity the ALCO used in the 1947-1949 tour, the most kissed locomotive, was not saved, at least you got to see it. That was very interesting about the discovery of the Howard Fogg painting in the link.
Enjoyed the random photos. It looks like you have seen the other passengers off on your trip on the Carlton Street trolley on Rendezvous I. It is great how the sun is reflecting off the sides of the dome cars at Branson. I noticed the big number 5 on the tap at the TrainWreck; one of those would go down a treat this hot afternoon.
Good films on at the Emporium this week, it is a long time since I have seen Dances with Wolves and Breakheart Pass, then, of course the Stooges.
Many thanks for the Passenger Fallen Flag on the Seaboard Air Line. They seem to have a lot of freight and passenger cars for the number of diesels they had in 1963. I think they had some great names for their named trains, including the famous Orange Blossom Special.
Well LEON I see you are behind the bar, so a round please.
A mid-morning informative Post from our Resident Brit in Sherwood Forest! Most appreciative of your daylite AM efforts!
Wondering if Dan "caught" this link, provided on Page 50 An interesting comment regarding the alcohol content of beer - check this link for some revealing info on U.S. <'n other> beer content:http://www.realbeer.com/edu/health/calories.php
An interesting comment regarding the alcohol content of beer - check this link for some revealing info on U.S. <'n other> beer content:http://www.realbeer.com/edu/health/calories.php
An interesting comment regarding the alcohol content of beer - check this link for some revealing info on U.S. <'n other> beer content:
http://www.realbeer.com/edu/health/calories.php
Also noted the return of our Bar Chandler - Wolfman Pete! Always gracious 'n willing to "accept" his penalty for Rules Violations! <grin> Also very appreciative of your taking the time 'n making the effort to provide a before-noon Monday visit!
With CM3 Shane gone-zo 'til the 17th <or thereabouts> the morning "slot" is in need of help - which tody is lookin' mighty fine!
Additional comments in my next round of acknowledgments . . .
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #7
Seaboard Air Line (SAL)
<A form of this was initially Posted on 22 Sep 2005, Page 115 of the Original Thread>
<source: Classic American Railroads>
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Headquarters: Norfolk, VA
Route mileage in 1950: 4,146
Locomotives in 1963: Diesels - 531
Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars - 27,560; Passenger cars - 446
Principal routes in 1950:
Richmond, VA-Homestead, FL (Miami) via Columbia, SC & Jacksonville & Auburndale, FL
Coleman-St. Petersburg, Fl
Hamlet, NC-Savannah, GA
Norlina, NC-Norfolk
Hamlet-Birmingham, AL
Savannah, GA - Montgomery, AL
Baldwin-Chattahoochee, FL
Baldwin-Gross, FL (bypass of Jacksonville)
Waldo-Sulphur Springs, FL
Plant City-Fort Myers, FL
Durant-Venice, FL
Hull-Port Boca Grande, FL
Valrico-West Lake Wales, FL
Passenger trains of note:
Cotton Blossom (Washington, DC-Atlanta)
Gulf Wind (Jacksonville-New Orleans)
New York-Florida Limited (New York-Miami)
Orange Blossom Special (New York-Miami)
Palmland (New York-Tampa & Boca Grande, FL)
Silver Meteor (New York-Miami & St. Petersburg & Venice & Ft. Myers)
Silver Comet (New York- & Portsmouth, VA-Birmingham)
Silver Star (New York-Miami & St. Petersburg & Venice & Boca Grande, FL)
Sunland (Washington & Portsmouth-Miami & Venice; formerly Southern States Special, Sun Queen & Camellia)
Suwannee River Special (Cincinnati-Florida destinations)
Of note: SAL passenger trains were handled by RF&P & PRR north of Richmond.
L&N handled the Gulf Wind west of Chattahoochee.
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SAL ad - "Silver Meteor" Streamliner thru Tropical Florida (from: www.getcruising.com/rails)
SAL #3011 E4A
(Original line drawing art by Stan Lytle, enhanced by Jack Bleiberg - from: www.getcruising.com/rails)
Orange Blossom special ad (from: multiple sources)
Enjoy!
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