Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!
Cindy, my oh my you are indeed a sight for a sailor's eyes! No, I'm surely NOT flirting, just making an astute observation, my deAH! <grin> Ah, Saturday and the skies have a bit of blue, but from the looks of those clouds whisking about, I'd say we're in for something not so good. Better "hit me" with a double "jolt" of JD as I check out the sandwich menu . . . . think I'll try something a bit different today.
Don't be surprised, but my Mets have caught up with the detested Braves! <grin>
So, what have we got today??? I see Da Boss has been in with MORE New York Central! What a week - what a week of terrific lightining stripe material, and it doesn't appear to want to end! Many thanx to all for such a fine outpouring. It's been a week to remember, especially with our Second Anniversary Bash being such a hit.
Doug has been out 'n about I see. Some personalized train shots too. Chicago, Chicago - yeah, a fine "town" in many regards.
Eric in the desert returned with a rather LATE or EARLY "deposit," depenidng of course on what time zone one is in. You are really the "anchor" for those who like that "Night Owl" lifestyle!
Noted the "count down" to the Rendezvous and it's getting to be THAT close, huh
I see that I'm rambling on here, so best to get on with some pix and stuff, then get going on my "domestic chores," oh the life of a married sailor in dry dock. <groan>
Many of these are reruns - but that's what "Encore" is for, hope you enjoy 'em again . . .
Until the next time!
Lars
Hi Tom and all.
As RUTH has got the weekend off I will have one of H&H's Breakfasts please CINDY.
DOUG Thanks for kind words on the Named Locos posts, indeed there was 4 posts but it got reduced to 3 after I managed to delete the LNER one, still I will re do it, as in my humble opinion, they had some of the best names.
Many thanks for the parts IV and V of the NYC steam locomotives. A very comprehensive description of the engines.
Hope you had a great time at the L&RHS meeting.
Great photos from the Metra South Shore Line. It was good you found a friendly engineer who let you takes photos of the cab and the inside of the car. They do look comfortable seats.
Liked the ‘Silver Bean'
ROB H&H are really hoping you will take over the Head duties.
Thanks for doing the tiding up at the bar after the anniversary bash. I was truly worn out making sure the bar was well stocked and after H&H came off duty, donned the Lederhosen and wanted to dance my energy was all used up.
Unfortunately BORIS and I have just learnt we are to be held back in year one in the typing class, but at least Boris is being sponsored by a keyboard manufacturer who is using the slogan "Even BORIS can't break 'em".
YES there this a great deal of hard work in getting those trolleys and trams back to their former glory a big to the volunteers.
MIKE. Great set of video links, The NYC streamliner is a real classic and great pics of the X2000 at speed. The pantograph in the last clip seems nearly at full stretch
CM3 Thanks for giving me the term ‘smoke lifters' as they are called over here. In the UK they were usually fitted when the locos were fitted with double chimneys or Kylchap blast pipes, which gave a softer exhaust and caused problems with drifting smoke. They tried recently to run the Flying Scotsman without the German type deflectors, fitted when the locos were fitted with the Kylchap system, the idea was to give the loco a more traditional appearance but they have had to be re-fitted after drifting smoke.
Enjoyed the details on the NYC locomotives in Doug and Lars's posts.
Great ‘Coal Miner list.
DL I did not know about Sir Nigel being a keen birder, I will be doing the LNER namers in a bit.
I have often noticed the Victoria at Beeston as I have passed through the station but never had the chance to call in for a pint or two, it certainly looks a great pub from the outside.. Beeston station had not been modernised much when I was last through there, is it still the same
A fair while ago I read an article about the fish traffic from Grimsby when it was in its heyday and it all went by rail they amount of trains were amazing. The Great Central Railway had a class of 4-6-0 locos that were known as the ‘Fish Class' designed for mainly hauling that type of traffic. Some of the speeds those trains got up to with the short wheel based 4 wheel vans and the sound of them passing over the rail joints was some not easily forgotten.
I hope you enjoy your trip to Penzance, look forward to the report. Will you be going to Helston and sampling the Stingo ale at the Blue Anchor. Luckily the bus to Penzance stops right outside the pub door, or used to when I went there.
ERIC. The Hall class has recently found fame as the loco in the Harry Potter films, the loco is named Hogwart's Castle for the movies; its real name is Olton Hall.
I have found a picture of the Royal Scot locos nameplate. The bottom part of the plate was added after the locos tour of North America. The loco happily is preserved although in its rebuilt form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Royal_Scot_nameplate.jpg.
If the HLI name was long there is a LNER V2 loco that had 50 letters in its nameplate.
The signal in the pic is the standard BR 4-aspect signal, the box on top of the signal is known as a ‘Theatre box' they are used in stations and on lines with a slower speed. When lit they indicate the route the line is set up for. For example; US would indicate the line was set for the Up Slow line, UF would be the Up Fast line.
Many thanks for the photos,
<huff> <puff> <phew> Cindy my sweet, just time for another "jolt" of JD, then I gotta get going. Had to get up to the Penthouse Suite to ensure that everything was ship-shape. The "grapevine" has it that Inspector Clueless and his sidekick, Mr. Doyle, PI, are about to look for "evidence."
Ah, I see the Bar Chandler has been in to square away the supplies before tonight's gathering for Steak 'n Trimmings! Diligence, that's what I like to see, diligence! By the way, you haven't "found" anything 'round here that, errrrr may belong to me, have you???? JUST wonderin' . . .
Forgot to make mention of Da Boss' idea of making trolleyMAN Rob the Chief Chief . That's a great idea and I think he should be DRAFTED! He's got the "quals" - even though I've heard he has problems boiling an egg! <grin. Nevertheless, it was HE who brought those two gals (?) into our midst and it is only RIGHT 'n JUST that HE should supervise 'em!
Nothing more to drop off, as I think the NYC has had quite a run on this thread and also over on Cap'n Tom's lonely site too. Really been a winnAH!
Oh yes, Pete the term KNICKERBOCKER goes way, way back for New Yorkers. The Dutch were the original European settlers of what is now known as Manhattan Island. And there was a character known as Father Knickerbocker . . . well, check out this Wikipidea Url:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knickerbocker
Cindy, that was sooooooo good, I'll take one more "hit," and also spring for a round, then call a cab and get myself home!
CINDY I.am ready for a Holden's Bitter now with around for the house and the Steak for later please.
This weeks pics are from the Harz Railway and feature around Wernigerode and on the Brocken branch of the system.The Brocken line features grades of 3.3%.The locomotive featured is No 99.7242 3.
As It can be seen it was a bit chilly on the climb to Brocken with freezing fog.
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The last pic is the main line station at Wernigerode. The train is the HEX which is a play on words meaning Harz EXpress, but also Hex means 'witch' which this area of Germany is famous for.(Photos and info from Alan).
The pics should enlarge.
Pete
ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
at "Our" Place!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . April 15th thru 21st: Vertigo (1959) Starring: James Stewart, Kim Novak, Barbara Bel Geddes, Tom Helmore & Henry Jones - and - In Which We Serve (1942) Starring: Noel Coward, John Mills, Bernard Miles, Celia Johnson, Kay Walsh. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Nutty But Nice (1940).
Vertigo (1959)
PLOT SUMMARY:
John "Scottie" Ferguson is a retired San Francisco police detective who suffers from acrophobia and Madeleine is the lady who leads him to high places. A wealthy shipbuilder who is an acquaintance from college days approaches Scottie and asks him to follow his beautiful wife, Madeleine. He fears she is going insane, maybe even contemplating suicide, because she believes she is possessed by a dead ancestor. Scottie is skeptical, but agrees after he sees the beautiful Madeleine.
from: amazon.com
In Which We Serve (1942)
In Which We Serve is a 1942 war film that tells the story of the British destroyer HMS Torrin, as told in flashbacks by the survivors as they cling to a life raft.It was written by and starred Noel Coward, and was directed by Coward and David Lean, both making their directorial debuts. Coward played Captain Edward Kinross, commander of a destroyer flotilla ("Captain D"). Celia Johnson portrayed his wife, Alix. The cast also included Richard Attenborough (in his film debut), John Mills as Ordinary Seaman "Shorty" Blake, Bernard Miles as Chief Petty Officer Walter Hardy, Ann Stephens as Lavinia Kinross and Daniel Massey as Bobby Kinross.In Which We Serve won an Honorary Academy Award, presented to Coward for "his outstanding production achievement". It was also nominated for Oscars for Best Picture and Best Writing, Original Screenplay.
It was written by and starred Noel Coward, and was directed by Coward and David Lean, both making their directorial debuts. Coward played Captain Edward Kinross, commander of a destroyer flotilla ("Captain D"). Celia Johnson portrayed his wife, Alix. The cast also included Richard Attenborough (in his film debut), John Mills as Ordinary Seaman "Shorty" Blake, Bernard Miles as Chief Petty Officer Walter Hardy, Ann Stephens as Lavinia Kinross and Daniel Massey as Bobby Kinross.
In Which We Serve won an Honorary Academy Award, presented to Coward for "his outstanding production achievement". It was also nominated for Oscars for Best Picture and Best Writing, Original Screenplay.
SHORT: Nutty But Nice (1940)PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry & Curly
The Stooges are singing waiters whose silly antics inspire two doctors worried about little Betty Williams, whose father was kidnapped. Dressed as three little girls, complete with balloons and giant lollipops, the Stooges visit the girl in the hospital, but even they can't bring her around. The boys volunteer to find Mr. Williams (he's 5 ft. 10 inches tall in his stocking feet, has a tattoo on his shoulder, and yodels like this: Yodel-aydee-aydee-odalay-eeoo.) When they find him, they're chased by the crooks to the basement of the building where they have a final battle in pitch darkness. The Stooges emerge victorious and reunite Williams and his cured, healthy girl.
from: threestooges.net
Enjoy! Tom
Just seen you call in LARS while I was doing my pics and thanks for the round.
Does finding something of yours, where it should not be, and holding on to it in case it came in handy later for bargaining purposes, sound the what this trusty bar chandeller would do to his manager.
Many thanks for the Knickerbocker Link, it was very interesting. I see there was even a link with Baseball with the name.
As you say it has been a great NYC time the last few days.
I see TOM has put the movies that are appearing at the Emporium this week. Different sort of films but great entertainment . I did not know that "In Which We Serve" was Richard Attenbourough film debut. With the Stooges as well another great week..
Well CINDY I am about ready for the Steak and to make sure the track gang is well supplied with ale tonight.
Pete.
Hi Tom and friends. Busy day today! I'd better get a bottomless draught before I run out of time. I see we have some new movies at the Emporium and book covers from manager Lars. Pete's left some mighty fine steam pictures. Please forgive my hastiness, but I've been painting most the day and really wanted to get this done sooner.
Does anyone recognize this building?
Howabout what is just inside the entrance after descending 4 floors?
Inside the mail car
Here's another control console for ya'll
The end (literally)
Must run now to pick up a kid and visit a horse. More soon!
G'day Gents!
My final Post for this ENCORE! Saturday - and Photo Posting Day! Remember gents, "Our Place" is CLOSED on Sundays!
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):
Doug at 10:10 AM today: SNOW! Now that looks as natural as can be along a right-of-way!
Some interesting personal Pix! Really look forward to visiting Chicago with you, for apparently you have the "secret" to getting into situations where some fine railroading shots can be taken - without the grief I've experienced at Union Station. However, I know it all depends on timing and the personalities of the people working at the time . . .
Have a great weekend!
Lars at 1:41 PM ‘n 4:09 PM today: So, the Mets dropped one to the Nationals, eh??? Beat the good teams, lose to the not-so-good ones. That's NOT a good sign, but it's early . . .
Always enjoy the book covers you provide for the gang - very good stuff! That last one is a sure-fire-winner!
Knickerbocker - now that brings back some memories, fer sure, fer sure. Let's see: Beer ‘n basketball ‘n knickers immediately comes to mind.
Soooooooo, what is IT that you THINK you MAY HAVE lost somewhere between the bar and Penthouse Suite???? <uh oh>
Enjoy the weekend . . . and thanx for the Email!
Pete at 3:32 PM ‘n4:21 PM ‘n 4:37 PM today: A three-bagger for today! Nice work, Mate!
Enjoyed your inclusive ‘n informative catch-up-Post; really covered lotsaground with that one! As I've said, it's great being able to eavesdrop on the conversations going on ‘round here - much to enjoy ‘n learn!
Are you SURE that you ‘n Boris are being held back in the typing class or are you being kept after school for OTHER reasons?? Since "Our" Place is footing the tuition, I'm going to meet with the "Head Mistress" - Molly Throttlebottom - to see just what's going on! Hmmmmmm.
Okay, I'll ask: whats a "keen birder"??? I may have missed something . . .
Interpretor, Moi???? That should be a riot, but maybe not such a bad idea before we head off to Quebec!
Don't quite know what to make of the "situation" going on with Lars, the Penthouse Suite, Ruth ‘n the missing something-or-other! Hmmmmmmmmmm. ‘Tis a puzzlement,but not something that our investigative tandem of Clueless ‘n Doyle can't handle!
Nice spate of Pix from your Mate, Alan, and all very much appreciated. Please convey our continuing THANX for his contributions.
Freezing fog - now that's one of winter's wonders, eh <grin>
Enjoy the weekend!
Pete had wondered whether Rob or anyone else who may wish to take (or retake) the 4-Part "Our" Place Skill Level Test that was Posted in late February ‘n early March of this year. If so, here's the Page numbers:
Part I . . . Page 25
Part II . . Page 26
Part III . .Page 26
Part IV .. Page 27
Some random Pix . . .
Rendezvous 2006: Toronto's Union Station
Rendezvous 2006: Toronto's Union Station ‘n CN Tower
Rendezvous 2006: Upper level, Toronto GO Transit bi-level car
Rendezvous 2006: Toronto subway cars
Rendezvous 2006: Interior VIA Rail coach #8306 departing Union Station,Toronto
Doug at 7:17 PM today: Just caught your Post - sure looks like the Chicago Museum of Science & Industry to me . . . Thanx for the Zephyr photos . . .
Tom
Geez, it's dark here! I can hardly find the mail slot. Must be a burned out light bulb. I saw the light is on in the Penthouse suite though. Somebody must have forgotten to turn it off, or... No, it couldn't be.
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
I guess this last Saturday was a little bit on the quiet side. Most of the guys were probably home trying to recover from that long and busy Thursday!
Tom – It is actually pictures showing everyday things that in the end are most interesting (with a few excemptions!). At least that is my opinion. We tested the first train set for almost thirteen months before the revenue service started. That meant a lot of overtime and traveling. Spent more than 200 nights on different hotels during that period of time. It was hard work, but it was also a lot of fun! About Manager Lars I have no (?) clue why he was carrying a bottle of wine. Smiling! Hmmm. Did you find that phone number? Of the “waiting passenger” in Toronto? Another hmmm. More info on NYC!Knickerbocker, New York - St. Louis? Did you ever ride it? I guess that was before you moved to St. Louis? A Hitchcock movie, Vertigo! Starring James Stewart! I have to see that one. james Stewart is (or was) my favorite actor! Followed by a war movie, “In Which We Serve”. I have to go to the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre this week! Thanks for the Toronto pictures! I recognize the ones from inside and outside of the Union Station! Doug – I am afraid I don’t remember what kind of cake I ate during that coffee break. But I am sure it was very good!! A bunch af very nice and interesting pictures! What does tha silver bean symbolize? A lot of work to keep it shiny, sparkly clean! The train to South Bend! Interesting to see the inside of the cab! Not much room for the engineer though. Ah, the Zephyr!! Nice pictures of an interesting train well ahead of its time! I can tell they are still working on it to make it look real nice. The inside of the cab was obviously spray painted, everything is white! I am sure they will fix that though. Lars – Yeah, I have always been a “Night Owl”. Don’t mind staying up all night, but I hate to get up early in the morning. Early for me is before 9 am. Nice book covers, as usual! That streamlined locomotive on the cover of New York Central’s Mercury is the same type/class as the one on one of Mike’s linked videos! Missing a round “anything”? A round anything, what the heck could that be? Some kind of evidence? Pete – I am afraid I not seen any Harry Potter movies (or read the books). Hogwart’s Castle? Not a very nice name on a locomotive, but I guess it had to be that to fit in the movie. Thanks for the signal info! I never heard of any “Theatre Box” before. So they use letters to indicate the route the line is set up for? Interesting!More pictures from the Harz Railway! (Thanks Allan!) Those locomotives are very compact! I can see the locomotive in the first picture is taking water. I wonder what the hose, hanging down across the front, is used for? It looks like it could be steam for the train heat.
Eric
Good morning Tom and friends. I'll have a light breakfast.
I pretty much spent the weekend painting the homestead. Got one more coat to apply to the kitchen tonight, and then I'll take a break from from that particular type of work until next weekend. Started a little project over at the barn to keep birds from tearing out the fiberglass insulation, which I hope to complete after work in my "spare time" this week. Next week I'll be going in extra early for some horse-sitting and cleanup. That will take a few hours each day.
Great pix of the reunion Tom, and nice to see Eric in so early. Getting to the Pioneer Zephyr ... what you see is all they're going to do. They don't renovate back to a period, and many changes have been made. For exmple, here's an annimated Zeph, the official mule of the Pioneer Zephyr, who narrates the tour in the baggage car
Here are the Budds, who "talk" to us in the observation car
The windows are projection screens, so you can see scenery go by, as well as popular attractions from the 1934 Chicago's World Fair.
That only leaves the smoker and one passnger car. I'll show pix of both at a later time. Have a great day!
siberianmo wrote: ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!at "Our" Place!We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! . . . April 15th thru 21st: Vertigo (1959) Starring: James Stewart, Kim Novak, Barbara Bel Geddes, Tom Helmore & Henry Jones - and - In Which We Serve (1942) Starring: Noel Coward, John Mills, Bernard Miles, Celia Johnson, Kay Walsh. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Nutty But Nice (1940). Vertigo (1959)PLOT SUMMARY: John "Scottie" Ferguson is a retired San Francisco police detective who suffers from acrophobia and Madeleine is the lady who leads him to high places. A wealthy shipbuilder who is an acquaintance from college days approaches Scottie and asks him to follow his beautiful wife, Madeleine. He fears she is going insane, maybe even contemplating suicide, because she believes she is possessed by a dead ancestor. Scottie is skeptical, but agrees after he sees the beautiful Madeleine. from: amazon.com In Which We Serve (1942)PLOT SUMMARY: In Which We Serve is a 1942 war film that tells the story of the British destroyer HMS Torrin, as told in flashbacks by the survivors as they cling to a life raft.It was written by and starred Noel Coward, and was directed by Coward and David Lean, both making their directorial debuts. Coward played Captain Edward Kinross, commander of a destroyer flotilla ("Captain D"). Celia Johnson portrayed his wife, Alix. The cast also included Richard Attenborough (in his film debut), John Mills as Ordinary Seaman "Shorty" Blake, Bernard Miles as Chief Petty Officer Walter Hardy, Ann Stephens as Lavinia Kinross and Daniel Massey as Bobby Kinross.In Which We Serve won an Honorary Academy Award, presented to Coward for "his outstanding production achievement". It was also nominated for Oscars for Best Picture and Best Writing, Original Screenplay. from: amazon.com SHORT: Nutty But Nice (1940)PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry & Curly The Stooges are singing waiters whose silly antics inspire two doctors worried about little Betty Williams, whose father was kidnapped. Dressed as three little girls, complete with balloons and giant lollipops, the Stooges visit the girl in the hospital, but even they can't bring her around. The boys volunteer to find Mr. Williams (he's 5 ft. 10 inches tall in his stocking feet, has a tattoo on his shoulder, and yodels like this: Yodel-aydee-aydee-odalay-eeoo.) When they find him, they're chased by the crooks to the basement of the building where they have a final battle in pitch darkness. The Stooges emerge victorious and reunite Williams and his cured, healthy girl. from: threestooges.netEnjoy! Tom
I thought a bit of extra information on "In Which We Serve" might not go astray. I have a DVD of my own of that movie. The story is a fictional version of the true story of Lord Louis Mountbatten who was flotilla commander of the K class squadron on HMS Kelly. He had his ship badly damaged (I can't recall if it was sunk), but I don't think he ever had to use a Carley Float.
Coward knew Mountbatten well and probably got some detail from him that helped the accuracy of this movie (better than average). Mountbatten, of course was effectively a member of the Royal Family, related to Prince Phillip and didn't live the middle class life represented by Coward in the movie.
M636C
Courtesy: http://www.viarail.ca/
A smile to begin the week!
We have a good time together, even when we're not together.
(A Yogi-ism!)
Monday, Monday . . . here we go again! Coffee ‘n pastries are ready and so are the <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts from the Menu Board!
Spring has returned - should be a glorious day here with temps in the 60s (F) - maybe low 70s by the ‘morrow. Got quite a bit of outside "stuff" taken care of yesterday as the bride was most energetic, which of course means so was I! <groan>
One month from TOMORROW the guys arrive for our 2nd Annual Rendezvous in St. Louis!
No "takers" for the Tuesday "Theme for the Day," so I'll make the call: Baltimore & Ohio (B&O). There's a "ton" of stuff on the original Thread for the "Theme Challenged" amongst us!
Eric at 12:49 AM today: Saw you "peeking in" during daylight on Saturday . . . there's no "escaping" the bar, eh
Saturday wasn't as active as some, but not bad. Surprised at some absences, but then there surely ARE other things to do on weekends!
You are correct Sir, I wasn't a resident of this area in the days when the Knickerbocker ran between NYCity ‘n St. Louis. However, I did pass through here by train in 1953 en route Santa Ana, California for a Boy Scout Jamboree. Spent the night aboard the train at Union Station. Was a "blast" for us all. Train departed Penn Station in NY with stops ‘n tours at WashDC - St. Louis - Kcity, MO - Colorado Springs - Santa Fe, NM - Grand Canyon - Santa Ana. After the Jamboree, we headed up to San Francisco (Oakland) - Salt Lake City, UT - Yellowstone Park - Cheyenne, WY - Chicago - Penn Station, NY. Was quite the adventure, fer sure, fer sure. Lots of black ‘n white photos! <grin>
Furthest west on the Pennsy for me was to Cincinnati in 1960 by train from Penn Station. Don't have a clue what the name of the train was.
I like Pix of the everyday stuff too . . . makes for some interesting observations.
There's a piece in the works regarding the flicks at the Emporium - watch for it!
Thanx for the visit.
Doug at 5:27 AM today: Sounds like you've had a busy weekend and more work to follow. Such is life in the fast lane, eh
I'm not really enthralled with exhibits where something as special as the Zephyr gets reduced to gimmicky nonsense, if ya follow my drift. <barf. I'd much rather see the "real thing," restored to the times of course. But, one takes what one gets, eh
Sooooooooo, did I get your question answered correctly???? <geesh>
Good to see ya this AM!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
G'day!
In response to our visitor, M636C (no further ID) . . . thanx for the elaboration. These movies we show at our Theatre are for the enjoyment of our customers. Reviews are from the sources indicated.
You are welcome to check us out by reading Page One of this Thread and if you think you'd enjoy participating in our discussions of CLASSIC TRAINS with a bit o' fun thrown in - please do so!
Tom Proprietor,
"Our" Place, an adult eating 'n drinking establishment (est: Apr 12, 2005)
Ruth, I think you'd better find that "Mae West' life jacket, for if the water rises much more, we'll all be in the drink! <yikes> Been a nasty storm and more to come. The rains have been pelting down, power has been on the verge of tripping off the line, phone service has been interrupted (which screws up my internet service) and the best I can say is that the basement is DRY! <fingers crossed!>
Ruth, a steaming mugga Joe with a "jolt" should do it for now. A round for whoever trickles in and of course set the critters up with their treats - Boris too!
Getting the "feeling" that you and I are being 'set up' for something, huh Well, if they're going to invent a reason to "get us," maybe we should actually "do something" just to put an end to the speculation! Ooooooooooooops, did I say THAT????/ <blush>
Enjoyed the "random" photos from Cap'n Tom. Rendezvous pix tell the story of what must've been a wonderful time. Sure is a shame that neither of those guys will be coming to St. Louis. Even more the shame that we hear absolutely nothing from our former Florida Connection. RIP, sez I.
Also enjoyed the spate of stuff from Eric. Lots of insights there too and the training T-shirts were a touch of "class" too!
Sounds like Doug is "in for" more work 'n less play. Such is the life of the working stiff, huh But, you've managed to really keep us all "up" on the Chicago rail scene quite well. I think that question of yours was answered correctly by Cap'n Tom. I've visited that museum too, and it's a great place to spend a week! <grin>
Tomorrow is Baltimore & Ohio Theme Day and it's a fine selection, Cap'n Tom! I have a bunch of new book covers ready, just hope that I'll be able to keep the power up 'n running around here. We have an emergency generator, but it won't do any good if our phone service goes down, which will wipe me out for connecting to the bar. Anyway, there are lines down in my area, so who knows?? Guess we should consider oursleves lucky thus far.
We had plans to get down to the Keys this week, but can't get any flights out. Got a call from Phil and he says that they've found a couple of places we should check out. So, if not this week, next for sure. The Mrs. is "itching" to get away from here. Of course I haven't told her that oceans rise EVERYWHERE during storms, not just along the northeast coast! <grin>
If we find something to our liking, we're going to jump at it. I'm ready to spend some quality time down in the Keys and I know the Mrs. does too. Could be an interesting couple of months coming up for us. We'd probably not move very much of our things down there, and just buy new furniture and other trappings for the place. We're going to keep our home here and kinda bounce back 'n forth, with my boys and their families using the Florida place for their vacations in the SUMMER! We are NOT about to give up the winters. <grin>
Of course all of this spells ABSENCE from the bar for me. It's going to be touch 'n go until early June for me. So, perhaps it's time to begin looking for an interim Manager. Doug?????? You surely fit the bill!! C'mon, it's only a cyber thing and you surely know what's what 'round here.
When I checked in this morning I saw that post with the Emporium Theatre movies and thought something was wrong with my pages. Then I realized that whoever that guy is, he copied the entire post just to make his point. Glad our guys don't do things like that, otherwise our pages would be completely full of redundant stuff. One of the benefits of our 'structured' environment is that we all know one another and pretty much stick to the protocol well established for this not-so-humble bar 'n grill of ours!
Anyway, good selections for the Emporium, once again! I see you're planning "something" on that. Curious minds need to know!! <grin>
The Mrs. is bellowing calling my name, something tells me this isn't gonna be good! <frown>
I'll try to get back later and for sure tomorrow, the good Lord willing and the ocean doesn't rise any more!
Good Afternoon Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
It stopped snowing here earlier today, but it is very cold and windy. Needless to say, everyone is upset about the situation at Virginia Tech which is not that far from this part of WV. I have many friends who have family members in school there; right now, nobody really knows much of anything that is going on.
Moving onto brighter topics.
Rob stopped by with comments.
Lars also visited with comments and more NYC material.
Pete provided a write-up on the LMS - about my favorite of all of the UK operations.
Eric - Coffee is the staff of life. I thought the top side was (in general) the one that was shiny.
Barndad took us on an outing on the South Shore and also a visit to what is truly the Zephyr Pit. Thanks for the pictures.
BK sent some ORO steam pictures. The 2-10-2T is truly all business. I enjoyed looking at some of the detail pictures; the air pumps are certainly easy to reach. The ride to Borken looks like our neighborhood did all day yesterday.
OSP sent some more NYC material and some fine movies for our viewing pleasure at the "Theatuh." "Vertigo" is a good one, and "In Which We Serve" is on my short list of all time favorites. Then we have Three Stooges in addition.
B&O tomorrow - I'm ready.
Work safe
A pint of Holden's Mild please this sunny mid-Mo afternoon and a round please RUTH.
DOUG Many thanks for the kind words on my pics and your photos from Chicago of the Burlington's Pioneer Zephyr.
I remember reading about ‘Zeph' on earlier posts on the Zephyr.
The 1930s must have been a great time for exhibitions in Chicago, looking again at the link I posted in a reply to Eric on Saturday showing the details on the Royal Scot nameplate. I see the loco was at the ‘Century of Progress' Exposition in 1933, and the screen in the Observation Car shows scenes from the 1934 World Fair.
ERIC. I am sure the light was off in the Penthouse Suite when I left after chandelling on Saturday night, although I am not allowed in there to stock the private bar any more.
Although there is no doubt quite a few Great Western fans who are still upset about Olton Hall being named Hogwart's Castle and even worse the Hall being painted red (a dreaded Midland Railway Colour) there is no denying the locos appearance in the films has helped the loco preservation movement in the UK. Where a lot of scenes are filmed on the West Highland Line in Scotland, there has been a regular steam hauled train run in the summer months. The train runs between Fort William and Mallaig, and has run for quite a few years now, last year the train ran an extra day a week and the passenger loadings were very good.
Another thing on signals with a ‘Theatre box' on top of them, they are used on the approach to large stations and indicate the platform the train is routed to.
Glad you liked Alan's photos. I don't really know what the hose is for but it would be for the steam heat. I was thinking that, as it appears the locos have electric light I wonder if the generator on the locos was used to light the cars, which could account for one of the cables on the loco front.
Torch Lake looks an interesting engine, thanks for sharing.
LARS Thanks for the round. The treats for the Mascots are working; they will not have a bad word said about our Manager.
I saw the bad weather you are having in your area on this morning's news, we had the system brush us here in Mid-Mo as it passed through Try to keep dry and I hope the utilities hold up. Real glad the basement is holding up.
I hope you find a great place in Florida although I shall miss my manager while you are away from the bar. If DOUG takes on the job don't forget to tell him what a hard worker he has in the bar chandler.
I too am interested to see what TOM has in store for the Emporium.
TOM I see BORIS and my Report cards have not reached you from Miss Throttlebottom yet.
A birder is I believe an ornithologist who studies birds of the feathered variety as opposed to, I guess, a hornythologist. (Some of Sir Nigel Gresley's A4 Pacifics were named after British wild birds)
Many thanks for the pics from Toronto from last years rendezvous, as you say it will be just a month from tomorrow before we meet up for the 2nd .
Do you still have those photos of your scout jamboree trip from 1953, did you take any photos of the trains. Unfortunately my black and white pics from the steam days were lost many years ago.
I will have some fun going through your Quiz again. I am sure ROB will ace it, I shall not get CINDY mixed up with Mountain Man Mike again.
Looking forward to B&O day tomorrow.
CM3 I have just caught your post. It is indeed a tragedy at the Virginia Tech. I have just heard the news on the BBC local radio that I get through the Internet. I sincerely hope all your friend's family members are all safe.
Good evening Leon,I think I'll just have a keith's this evening.I have survibved my trip under the dentist's pliers and apparently I've been given a clean bill of health so long as I finish the penicilin
I took an extra day off to recover and now I'm good ( well as good as I get )
Tom-B&O for tuesday, sounds like a good plan, I imagine that we could just about fill a week with B&O info as well. Nice to see the shots from last may again, oh by the by I still see that young lady on occation, she works inToronto and commutes to work four days a week on VIA, now that's the way to do it. I'll remember you to her the next time I see her I see that I've been linched / railroaded into a new job. Oh well H&H say I accept or more accuratly You Vil accept or ve vil accept for you. Apparently they've ordered the new kitchen staff uniforms ffor us all, a cross between chefs whites and lederhosen should be wunnerfull donchathink I wonder if our visiter will return,hopefuuly it's more than a fleeting infactuation with our movie selections.
Lars-yep work has normalised so you should see me fairly regularly I noticed that today's storm dampened you folks quite a bit, it's leftovers apparently dumped 16cm of snow on the Kingston to Ottawa corridor and into Quebec with lots of power outages and we got rain and about 45 degrees where I am less than four hours west Wierd isn't the word for it
Doug-Interesting Metra and Zepher shots. I too have enjoyed my couple or three trips to Chicago ( all for rail photography and riding )
Pete- Great additional train name info sir, your truly adding alot to our disscussions here.Not to worry i'll keep the "Girls" out of your hair and in the Kitchen as much as possible. Mind you they and kopperkettle will still mike thrice weekly Zepplin flights home for "traditional ingrediants" and any import beers you may wish to bring in.
Eric-Great additional shots of the X trainers and equipment. I often wonder if the time isn't right to seriously concider those types of trainsets for regular train service over here. It would seem to me to be the right choice, so therefore it likely won't happen any time soon. Someone will find a way to make the improvements too expensive to get the trains up and running over here.
Rob
Okay leon, I'll grab another Keith's and I'll leave abit of change behind for another round for any stragglers. So with Tomorrow being B&O day i figured that tonight I would drop a piece from the old thread, this line ended up being a C&O holding so once all the mega-mergers happened it and B&O folded into the CSX, so this piece sort of fits into the puzzle.
CLASSIC STEAM #19 THE BOOZE LINE
This piece came originally from page 289 of the old bar.
In 1856 American distiller Hiram Walker arrived on the Canadian side of the Detroit River and began making wisky, an operation that would eventually become one of Canada's largest and prolific distilleries.Around his distillery Walker laid out a planned community called Walkerville ( still survibes today as a herritage part of the city of Windsor Ontario ). By the 1880's the townsite had become one of Ontario's best planned and laid out communities.With attractive hotels,banks and brick homes for the plant workers and their families. Walkers own company office was so ornate and well built that it survives still today as a designated herritage building.
Along with the community there was a railway station. In 1885 Walker brought into operation the Lake Erie and Detroit River Railway ( LEDR ). Not only was it intended to bring in the raw material for the plant from the surrounding farmlands south of Windsor, but to export both the finished products but to export local cattle and lumber products as well to the US .At first the line crossed only Essex County, reaching the city of Leamington in 1889. But so great was the demand by the municipalites further east for railway connections, that by 1895 theb road was extended all the way to St Thomas. Here it met the Canada Southern one of the NYC's Canadain Subsidiaries giving the LEDR and the communities it served connections to Toronto and Buffalo as well as the the city of London.Then station the railways met at was the huge MCRR/CASO station that was built 20 yeasr before. It still exists today and has renovations schedualed to turn it's interior into condos and boutiques, but maintaining it's classic facade as it to is a herritage building.
From St Thomas, the LEDR had hoped to aquire the existing London and Port Stanley RR which would give them cross Lake Erire access to Ohio, and the coal trade the L&PS brought into London. However the City of London dithered so long over walker's offer that the LEDR took over the smaller Erie and Huron Railway with it's Lake erie port at Erieau. This route though longer gave the LEDR access to the US through Cahtham and Sarnia.
At Erieau the LEDR built a large coaling facility and then entered the tourist business by adding to steam excursion boats, the Shenango and the Urania.These two vessels operated between Cnneaut Ohio and Erieau Ontario bringing tourists to stay at the popular Bungalo and Lakeview Hotels ( also owned by the LEDR ).With room for 200 guests the Bungalo Hotel was the areas best aand grandest,it unfortunatly burned to the ground in 1912, and was never rebuilt. In 1972 the Erieau section of te LEDR was the first portion of the line to be abandonned and pulled up.
Most of the stations along the line were small unassuming wooden buildings of similar style. The stations at Wheatly and Leamington were given octagonal towers above the bay windows whlie the station at walkerville was a large two story stone box.
South western Ontario's main railway rivalries did not invlove Canadian owned railways but American ones. In 1904 to compete more aggressivly against the American Owned ( NYC ) Canada Southern ( Caso ), the Pere Marquette Railway took over the LEDR and operated it until 1951 when tthe Pere Marquette itself became part of the C&O, and now the CSX.
For most of the roads route it gained it's business from the feed mills and grain elevators which were located next to most of the little train stations along the line. Some fish from Lake Erie was handled from the towns of Wheatly and Kingsville.While most of the lines business served the in and outs at the distillery itself ( still a major shipper for CSX today ).
Gradually, trucking has taken up the smaller industries along the LEDR's mainline.Between 1992 and 1996 nearly the entire line between St Thomas and Walkerville was abandonned and lifted. The only track today is in Windsor running between the CN and CP to move the distilleries production,and in Blenheim were grain is still moved north along the old Erie and Huron trackage and connecting to the petro chemical plants of the CSX's Sarnia division.
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, tonight it is time for Rumpsteak Café de Paris again! Yes, all of it! Nice to come in a little biot earlier tonight! Wait, I can hear somebody singing upstairs. Who is it? Really, she is still here? The Penthouse suite? No, no, I will not tell! Promise.
Kind of typical Monday here. I saw that the light bulb outside has been replaced. Maybe it was just turned off last night?
Doug – A mule in the bagage car? I don’t know, seems a little bit off to me. Maybe I am wrong, but... okay, it is not my train. The observation car is okay! Since the train is inside a museum it is nicer to see the scenery go by using projectors than to see other museum artifacts outside the car. Nice pictures! Thanks! Tom – Oh, you saw me Saturday? Impossible to check this place without being spotted! Boy scout? I was a boy scout for a shorter period of time as a kid, less than two years. I bet Union Station was a more “train like” place in 1953 than it is today. A long trip by train from New York City to Santa Ana, CA! How long time did it take?I’ll keep my eyes open regarding the flicks at the Emporium! Lars – Thanks for the round! Are you sure that you and Ruth are being set up? I don’t think so. Who would do that? By the way, did you leave the lights on Sunday night? Hope you will find a nice place in the Keys! Sounds nice to have a place to go to in the winter, away from snow and ice. CM3 – You are right, the top is the shiny side! The problem was that three of the sides were shiny! It was easier when they told us that those round discs were located at the bottom side. Pete – The light may have been off when you left, but who knows what happened after you left? So you are not allowed to stock the private bar any more, huh? I am stunned!No, those two hoses you see at each end of the locomotives are for the trainline. Most (all?) locomotives in Europe have one hose for the trainline on each side of the front/rear end since freight cars usually only have one hose for the trainline and you never know what side it will be at. I am sure all passenger cars have electric lights fed by a battery that is charged by a generator (on on each car). The generator on the steam locomotive doesn’t have the capacity to feed electric power to all cars. Rob – It was interesting, when we did the Canadian tour with the X2000, to read/have translated what the papers in Montreal wrote about it. They wrote that the X2000 would be a better choice for the future than any version of TGV because of its tilting system! That surprised me an many others since TGV is a French train and Qubéc is a kind of “French” province. Interesting story about the Lake Erie & Detroit River Railway! Some parts of it lasted for quite some time, 1885-1996. I spent some hours at the CP yard in Windsor but have no clue where LEDR’s track might have been connecting?
Tuesday has rolled ‘round and it's the Baltimore & Ohio Theme for the Day! Let's see what we can conjur up from the guys!
Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):
Lars at 11:14 AM yesterday: Back to Marathon, eh Can't say as if I blame you and wondered just what took you so long!?!? Of course the answer is obvious, must wait for that "right" moment, then "carpe diem," eh
Surely hope all is well with and for you with the weather mess in your part of the world (woild) <grin>. No laughing matter, but we both know what the wrath of the sea can and does bring. Keep the hatches battened down, maintain a steady course ‘n speed, and ride ‘er out, Mate!
Now just a minute here! I do the hiring ‘n firing ‘round here. Interim Manager, my Patoot! Nope. Don't need an Interim - need an ASSISTANT! That's "more better"! <grin> Doug is THE logical candidate and we'll DRAFT his sorry butt if he doesn't VOLUNTEER! How's THAT for democracy????
On that note, has anyone noticed that Rob has disappeared again?? Just the mention of him "maybe" assuming a position of responsibility, and "zap" - gone-zo! Hmmmmmmm.
CM3 Shane at 3:49 PM today: You "saved the day" or at least that portion of daylight . . . thought we'd have one of those long droughts, but happy to see ya!
The unfolding tragedy at Virginia Tech has captivated our household as well. While we don't know of anyone there, with a bride as a university teacher, things like this really "grab" one's attention. Hope any friends and acquaintances of yours haven't been adversely involved.
No pressure - BUT - surely am looking forward to your B&O "stuff." I have my doubts regarding participation . . . Suggest you do so as close to NOON as possible. I'll have the morning "covered" before I leave for the day. Thanx!!
Appreciate the round, quarters ‘n visit!
Pete at 4:25 PM yesterday: Wolfman to the rescue with the late afternoon Post- had Shane not come in, yours would've "saved the day." Many thanx, though!
Emails sent to you very early this AM . . . ???? Reservations made ‘n confirmed for our KCity Amtrak trip.
I have a meeting set up with Molly Throttlebottom, but it is rather odd that she suggested something along the lines of an "intimate" setting. Candlelight dinner, wine ‘n . . . . This could prove to be rather interesting - if not dangerously foolish! <uh oh> Just what kinda "school Marm" is she, anyway??? And no, I've not received the "report cards." That and other "things' will be discussed with Molly! <uh oh>
I "get" the term "birder" - but when "keen" is prefixed, it confused me! <grin>
Yes and no regarding Pix from my 1953 Boy Scout Jamboree. Several of the photos have faded beyond recognition over the years. Mainly due to the many, many moves encountered during my military career (13 permanent changes of station - moving vans, storage, etc.) The changes in temperatures, humitity and so forth really took a toll on photos. I do have at least a dozen albums (12 Pix each) but alas, only a couple of train shots. <sad>
Many thanx for keeping to the "slot" for Posting - really helps!
Rob at 9:34 PM ‘n 10:13 PM yesterday: That mustabeen a tough tooth extraction! Glad to know you're up ‘n runnin' once again. You KNOW the tooth had deep roots when your toe nails turn inward! <grin> (Yeah, go ahead and steal that one while you're at it!)
So, it's Oh-fish-UL! trolleyMAN Rob is the Chief Chef for "Our" Place! Back on the payroll, eh
Strap on your stool-belts, Gents, this should be an interesting ride with the H&H gals (??) in the kitchen. Ahhhh, you may have to reintroduce "Kopperkettle" to the guys . . . What have I done <grin> THANX! [tupp]
A fine start for our "Theme for the Day!" as that "Booze Line" Encore! provides a different ‘n interesting twist . . .
Great seeing you TWICE ‘n looking forward to your offerings on our "Slumgullion Evening Menu Board"!
Eric at 11:48 PM yesterday: Another inclusive ‘n enjoyable Post from our Resident Desert Swede!
You seem to be on a trail leading to who knows where with Lars ‘n Ruth ‘n the Penthouse Suite! Perhaps YOU should join our "crack investigati
Now arriving on Track Number One -
Theme for the Day - Number Twelve
Baltimore & Ohio Railroad (B&O)
Some named trains of the B&O
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources.
Capitol Limited (B&O)
Train No. 5 The Capitol Limited, arrives in Chicago, Illinois on August 11, 1939.
The Capitol Limited was a passenger train run by the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, using the B&O's tracks between Union Station in Washington, DC and Grand Central Station in Chicago, Illinois via Pittsburgh. It was discontinued on May 1, 1971, when Amtrak took over passenger operations from the B&O.
In 1981, Amtrak's own Capitol Limited was inaugurated, using the same tracks east of Pittsburgh.
"Drumhead" logos such as these often adorned the ends of observation cars on the Capitol Limited.
Cincinnatian
"Drumhead" logos such as these often adorned the ends of observation cars on the Cincinnatian.
The Cincinnatian was a named passenger train operated by the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad. The B&O inaugurated service on January 19, 1947, with service between Baltimore, Maryland and Cincinnati, Ohio.
These cars, unlike previously re-built cars from the Baltimore and Ohio Mount Clare shops, were fully streamlined, the heavyweight cars stripped to the frame and re-built completely. Many felt these cars were as good as any cars built by the big three car builders AC&F, Budd, or P/S. The quality of the workmanship was unquestioned, but some of the interior décor was a little dated for that period. The new Cincinnatians entered service January 19, 1947 behind streamlined Presidential Pacific Locomotives painted to match the trailing train in the magnificent Blue and Gray scheme.
The Cincinnatian would have its route changed on June 25, 1950 from a Baltimore to Cincinnati daylight schedule to a Detroit to Cincinnati daylight schedule where it would remain until the creation of Amtrak. On this new routing the train sets became successful almost from the beginning. [1] The Cincinnatian on this route used many mail cars, which contributed to the route's success.
In 1970 and 1971, the Cincinnatian was the only Baltimore and Ohio train on the Cincinnati to Detroit route. The trains no longer offered checked baggage--passengers had to carry their own luggage on and off the coaches.
Food was not available either. The 1970 timetable said "Food and beverages may be purchased at Toledo station during station stop." That meant a long wait for hungry northbound riders who left Hamilton at 10:47 a.m. and arrived in Toledo at 2:30 p.m. Southbound, the train departed Toledo at 11:45 a.m. and stopped in Hamilton at 3:25 p.m. The B&O still was using the name and same numbers when the railroad ended passenger service on April 30, 1971. [2]
Equipment used
The following are the two consists of the Cincinnatian (1947)
5301 PRESIDENT ADAMS 4-6-2 Streamlined Pacific & Tender
1307 EDEN PARK Baggage Crew Day Room Buffet 24-seat Lounge Car
3565 INDIAN HILL 60 revenue seat Coach
3572 OAKLEY 56 Revenue seat Coach with Stewardess Room
3567 COLLEGE HILL 60 Revenue seat Coach
3304 PEEBLES CORNER 24-seat Dining 18-seat Lounge Observation
SECOND CONSIST
5302 PRESIDENT JEFFERSON 4-6-2 Streamlined Pacific & Tender
1308 HYDE PARK Baggage Crew Day Room Buffet 24-seat Lounge Car
3566 WINTON PLACE 60 Revenue seat Coach
3573 NORWOOD 56 Revenue seat Coach with Stewardess Room
3568 WALNUT HILLS 60 Revenue seat Coach
3305 FOUNTAIN SQUARE 24 seat Dining 18-seat Lounge Observation
BAGGAGE CREW DAY-ROOM BUFFET 24-SEAT LOUNGE COMBINATION CARS Baltimore and Ohio Mount Clare Shops, December, 1946 (Re-built and Streamlined for the CINCINNATIANS)
1307 EDEN PARK
1308 HYDE PARK
60 REVENUE SEAT COACHES Baltimore and Ohio Mount Clare Shops, December 1946 (Re-built and Streamlined for the CINCINNATIANS)
3565 INDIAN HILL
3566 WINTON PLACE
3567 COLLEGE HILL
2568 WALNUT HILLS
56 REVENUE SEAT COACHES WITH STEWARDESS ROOM Baltimore and Ohio Mount Clare Shops, December 1946 (Re-built and Streamlined for the CINCINNATIANS)
3572 OAKLEY
3573 NORWOOD
24 SEAT DINING 18-SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Baltimore and Ohio Mount Clare Shops, December 19
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house, and $ for the jukebox.
The B&O has long been a player in West Virginia. Here is some corporate hisotry re the B&O which shows how much of it was stitched together over the years from many smaller roads. Some of the names may not be familiar to you, but many are. I'll try an dpost some more later today. A B&O system map and a colored pencil will help you figure out what was where.
B&O Corporate Lineage
Parent Company: Baltimore and Ohio Railroad
Central Ohio Railroad - Leased by the B&O in 1866. Sandusky, Mansfield, and Newark Railroad leased by B&O through Central Ohio RR in 1869. These leases extended the B&O line to Sandusky, OH.
Pittsburgh and Connellsville RR - Incorporated in 1837 and absorbed by the B&O in the mid to late 1860s. Opened for traffic in 1871, this line gave the B&O access to Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh Junction RR - Connected P&C and the Pittsburgh and Western. The PJ gave Buffalo, Rochester and Pittsburgh passenger trains access to the B&O station at Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh and Western RR - Formed the first leg of the B&O west of Pittsburgh. This was a rod formed from a series of narrow gauge lines which were converted to standard gauge - the B&O took over the P&W in 1902.
Salisbury RR - A short line in Pennsylvania officially taken over by the B&O in 1912. Connected with the P&C.
Somerset and Cambria RR - Absorbed by the B&O in 1879, later merged into the B&O. This line became the B&O between Rockwood and Johnstown, PA.
Buffalo Valley RR - Connected with P&C at Garrett, PA. Absorbed into the B&O in 1880.
Marietta and Cincinnati RR - Acquired by the B&O in 1882 and name changed to Cincinnati, Washington and Baltimore RR and changed again in 1889 when the CW&B became the Baltimore and Southwestern RR. The B&OSW was officially added to the B&O in 1900.
The B&OSW took over the Ohio and Mississippi RR in 1893 which gave the B&O a through line to St. Louis.
West Virginia and Pittsburgh RR - Operated between Clarksburg and Weston, WV; leased by the B&O in 1890 and formally acquired in 1912. This line provided access to coal and lumber in northern WV.
Monongahela River RR - Operated between Fairmont and Clarksburg, WV - leased to B&O in 1900 and purchased outright in 1912.
Ohio River RR - Operated between Benwood and Kenova, WV via Parkersburg and Huntington, WV. Purchased outright by B&O in 1912 after the B&O had operated the line since 1901.
Morgantown and Kingwood RR - Operated between Rowlesburg and Kingwood, WV. Bought by the B&O in 1920
Coal and Coke RR - Bought by B&O in 1919
Columbus and Cincinnati Midland RR - Leased to Central Ohio RR in 1890.
Staten Island Rapid Transit RR - Stock purchased by B&O in 1885. B&O assumed control in 1889. The SIRT gave the B&O access to New York Harbor. Trains north of Park Jct. were handled by the RDG and CRRofNJ through trackage rights.
Ohio and Little Kanawha RR - Operated between Zanesville and Marietta, OH - swallowed by the B&O in 1909.
Cleveland Terminal and Valley RR - Gave B&O entry to Cleveland, OH. Purchased outright by B&O in 1915.
Cleveland, Lorain and Wheeling RR - Incorporated 1883, taken over in 1909 by the B&O, sold to B&O in 1915.
Baltimore and Ohio Chicago Terminal RR (BOCT) - Formerly Chicago Terminal Transfer Co. Reorganized in 1910 as BOCT.
Cincinnati, Hamilton and Dayton RR - Under B&O control by 1912.
Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Western RR - Separated for CH&D and absorbed by B&O in 1927.
Dayton and Union RR - Operated from Dayton to Union City, OH - had trackage right over the PRR - B&O took it over in 1919.
Buffalo, Rochester and Pittsburgh RR - Absorbed by the B&O in 1932.
Buffalo and Susquehanna RR - Absorbed by B&O in 1932.
Alton RR - Originally Chicago and Alton RR, purchased by B&O in 1931 and renamed Alton RR. B&O allowed Alton bonds to default and the road, after going bankrupt was sold to the GM&O in 1932.
work safe
Ruth, my deAH, set 'em up and I'll take a HUGE mug o' steaming Joe with a "jolt" and a #3 from the menu board. Treats for the crittAHs and include Boris in that too!
It is WET, WET, WET and soggy thrown in for good measure. <yuck> Been having a bad time of it trying to get on to the site, my typing is doing that "delayed" thing and I've had to reboot 3 times so far. Once more and I'm outta here!
I've gotta head over to Newark Airport this day and see about getting us off to Florida. Blasted phones aren't being cooperative, plus I've always had better luck with the ticket agents at the airport. Yeah, I know, sounds archaic, but that's me these days! <groan>
Eric the Investigator, huh???? Why not! Come catch us if you CAN!
Congrats to you trolleyMAN Rob on accepting the Chief Chef's job. I KNEW we could hornswaggle convince you to do it! I do HOPE you can keep those "gals" of yours squared away, they are rather intimidating, even to an ole sailor such as me! <grin> Kopperkettle??? Who in bloody blue blazes is THAT???
Let me acknowledge the B&O posts from Cap'n Tom - Rob - Shane B4 I get going . . .
Some book covers that I've not provided along the way . . .
G-day Tom and all present!
Ruth- Nice to see you on this sunny morning. I think I will have a coffee and one of those wonderful pastries. Thanks
Well, I'm back and ready for makeup. I will start on the current page and work my way back.
Tom- Good to see you again. I heard about the tech school shooting and my sympathy goes out to the families who have been affected by this terrible occurrence.
I was looking at the capitol limited as part of the theme of the day, and I was surprised that it was quite a nice looking train. And then I learned that Amtrak's own Capitol limited was inaugurated in 1981. Some interesting info. Thanks. Also learned about the Cincinnatian's heavy weight cars. I didn't know they completely rebuilt the heavy weights. I would think that you wouldn't bother doing that but I guess they turned out nice since people thought they were as good as any other car. Interesting stuff. Do you know why they did this and what the significance of it was Great looking logos and pictures. Good start for theme.
Rob- Good to see you back!! I saw some of your earlier posts and they're looking good. But I will get to those later. Very interesting article on the Booze line. It surprising to see that one of its bigger services was a distillery... Of course we need to keep the guys around here happy... Anyway.. It was also interesting to read how it served all of these grain elevators and coal fields. To bad most of the LEDR is gone. But I see they still serve the distillery under new ownership of the CN and CP. Good article, very much enjoyed it. Hope to here from you soon.
Well, now it's time for some pictures.
Here is an E-1. These were used on the Capitol limited as dipicted in Tom'smpost above this. They are a nice looking locomotive in the blue and white. They also had a unique design to there nose with head light mounted inside the nose. Very nice photo. B&O 51, Baltimore & Ohio Railroad Museum, Baltimore, MD, March 27, 1981, Photo by Ray L. Fanz. Built by Electro-Motive Corp. in 1937, (GM). Model EA, 1800 h.p. passenger.
B&O 50, McCook, IL, EMD, September, 1972, Electro-Motive Corp. (EMC preceded EMD) model AA (1,800-hp Class DP-1) passenger locomotive. A very historic diesel locomotive, the first passenger road locomotive not articulated to its train. Placed in Royal Blue service (Jersey City - Washington DC.) on 8/22/35, it was transferred to Abraham Lincoln service (Chicago - St. Louis) on B&O subsidiary Alton in 4/36. Following the B&O-Alton breakup, Alton bought it in 5/43. Following WWII, it became GM&O #1200 and served in local freight service and on the Joliet commuter train. It was retired in 1956
And something a bit out of the passenger services. This is an Alco RSD-15. Another one of the nicer looking Alco locomotives. Photo by John Ruhl, April 1, 1972
Enjoy!
HAppy railroading
James
Hello Tom and all in
Pancake breakfast please, coffee and juice too please.
Well, I've spent a lot of time checking out that Buffalo Central Station site (can't recall who posted it - was it you Eric) - amazing really - remarkable that group of volunteers was prepared to take it on - what a massive site. Gives a real idea of the scale of train travel back in the day. I can't think of a British Station of that size, scale and grandeur from that period of construction (although some European ones come to mind). Some really interesting pictures up there. Also a real tragedy that it was more or less in decent condition in the late 1970s, which was not so long back, and then descended into a wreck pretty quickly.
Just so I can get an idea, how far is Buffalo from NY City?
Pete: Victoria in Beeston is pub worth getting off the train for - superb beer and great food with a beer garden next to the tracks. Only problem is that it has got so popular with diners that you get far too many of what I call the ‘wine drinking classes' - no problem with them per se - they just need to realise a pub is a pub, not a restaurant! It recognition of this, and to the pubs credit - they keep one bar where no food is served and it stays as a ‘drinkers bar' which is good.
Beeston station retains its old buildings, and they have done some work to fix the roof glazing and such recently - not a proper restoration but at least an improvement - sadly although it is staffed the staff don't seem to do much work clearing up the litter and keeping the place as tidy as it should be, but at least it has not been replaced by a bus shelter.
Helston - I've not been there before - did not realise the bus went nearby - so I'll make a note of that pub and try and check it out. No station there I don't think. We have 4 days to explore the area, some hiking is intended too.
Can I just ask about that Royal Scot picture - I did not realise any of the class was preserved so do you know where that one is?
Great work on the LMS naming - some interesting stuff that was news to me.
By the way - what happened to your old B&W pics - you must have regretted losing them - just a passage of time thing I guess?
Doug - enjoyed your Metra outings - sadly I can't view your pics (It is a browser problem as Tom suggested in the past) but the descriptions are good. I've enjoyed Metra trips when I've been in Chicago and should make a point of exploring the system more. I took the line out to Lake Forest (UP North Line) to visit a friend and also out to Schaumberg on the MD-W line where we stayed with relatives. I'd like to spend more time exploring the system some day.
Rob - certainly take your point about restoration / renovation. Nice to hear you have good inside storage for most of your stuff - vital in the sorts of climate you have to deal with I would have thought. Interesting post on the Booze Line too.
Tom - I forgot your St Louis rendezvous was the same month as the Canada trip - there will no doubt be a lot to report in due course. I'll look forward to it.
Nice film choice too - Vertigo is one of my favourites - when I was in San Fran I checked out most of the film locations with the help of a great website I found. Many were of course easy to spot, and the house that features - is this Scotty's house? (which I think I recall is on the zig zag street) Is there and easily recognizable.
Incidentally - did rails ever go into San Francisco (surely they must have done) - as of course when we got on / off the Amtrak zephyr it was necessary to take the road coach connection from the pier building area?
Also - in a spooky connection I was actually watching In Which We Serve on video last week. I think the info our visitor friend provided is as I understand the situation. Mountbatten was charged with the responsibility of overseeing the British Exit from India soon after the war, and was killed in an IRA assassination in the 1970s.
Well, I wait to learn some stuff on B&O theme day (or rather review the stuff now up since I preped this on the wp). I think the LMS railway of the UK sent a locomotive to their century of progress exhibition, but I'm hoping Pete will know more about that than I do and set out some info.
All the best
DL
PS nice pics from James - I can see them fine.
Do you still have those photos of your scout jamboree trip from 1953, did you take any photos of the trains . Unfortunately my black and white pics from the steam days were lost many years ago.
Rob - relly interesting info on the Booze Line
Another coffee please.
Re my last post - those two bits on the end re Pete / Rob - shouldn't been there - must have been on my WP page from preparing it - as you'll guess I pasted stuff down there as an aide memoir to things I wanted to ask / say - which is why they repeat points in the main post! You guys know what I mean anyway... I'm sure you'll forgive a 'regular' for talking non sense.
Best wishes
A couple of more B&O items. IIRC, I ran both of these on the old page, but...
First is a piece of slumbercoach advertising, second related to one of the mainstays of the B&O - coal.
Thrifty Travelers
Sleep ‘n Save
At low coach fares in B&O's Private Room
Slumbercoaches
Between
Baltimore
Washington
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
St. Louis
And certain Texas points
Comfort and privacy at bargain coach fares
(Plus moderate space charge)
Single and double rooms
Soft armchairs
Comfortable full length beds
Solid sliding door with mirror
Private toilet facilities
Crib for infants
B&O Form A-90m 10/29/61
West Virginia Coal Mines - 1950
Baltimore and Ohio
Albright Coal
Albright Mine - Albright, WV
Alsted Coal Co.
Gypsy Mine - Gypsy, WV
Alvarez Coal Co.
Lamberts Run Mine - Meadowbrook, WV
Atlas Engineering Co.
Roberta No. 2 Mine - Century, WV
Barnes Coal Co.
Dawson Mine - Dawmont, WV
Beckley Coal & Coke Co.
Beckley No. 1 Mine - Richwood, WV
Bethlehem Collieries Corp. (WV)
Barrackville No. 41 Mine - Barrackville, WV (Captive tonnage)
Richard No. 21 Mine - Sabraton, WV
Bethlehem Fairmont Coal Co.
Scott No. 2 Mine - Shinnston, WV
Bitner Fuel Co.
Goodhue Mine and McCanns Run Mine - Jane Lew, WV
Blaser Fuel Co.
Blaser Mine - Tunnelton, WV
L.H. and J.W. Borgman, Inc.
Monitor Mine - Tunnelton, WV
Bower Mine, Inc.
Daft Mine - Daft, WV (Taylor County)
Bretz Fuel Co.
Margaret No. 2 Mine - Bretz, WV (Preston County)
Brown Fuel Co.
Henshaw Mine - Henshaw, WV (Barbour County)
Buckhannon River Coal
Adrian Mine - Adrian, WV (Upshur County)
Burke Coal Co.
Carol Mine - Grasselli, WV
James P. Burns, Jr.
Dola Mine - Dola, WV (Harrison County)
C&C Coal Co.
Penn Dola No. 2 Mine - Lumberport, WV
Cain Coal Co.
Bower Mine - Bower, WV (Braxton County)
Casella Coal Co.
Shamrock Mine - Buckhannon, WV
Central States Construction Co
Geraldine Mine - Richwood, WV
Chemical Coal Company
LeMoyne Mine - LeMoyne, WV (Clay County)
Rainbow Mine - LeMoyne, WV
Clark Coal Company
Junior No. 7 Mine - Everson, WV (B&O)/Chiefton, WV - WM
L.E. Cleghorn
Cleghorn Mine - Lost Creek, WV
Coal Service Corporation
Chieftan & Mars Mine - Wilsonburg, WV (Harrison County)
Pontiac Mine - Hoard, WV - B&O/Monongahela River
Columbia Coal Co.
Columbia Mine - Clarksburg, WV
Compass Coal Co. (Affiliated with Clinchfield Coal Corp.)
Compass Mine - Overfield, WV (Barbour County)
Consolidation Coal (WV) Division of Pittsburgh Consolidation Coal Co.
Consolidation No. 25 Mine - Consolidation No. 25 Mine, WV (Harrison County)
Consolidation No. 32 Mine - Consolidation No. 32 Mine, WV (Harrison County)
Consolidation Mine No. 38 - Consol No. 38 Mine, WV (Marion County)
Consolidation No. 63 Mine - Consol No. 63 Mine, WV (Marion County)
Consolidation No. 97 Mine - Consol No. 97 Mine, WV (Marion County) - B&O/Monongahela
Corona Coal Co., Inc.
Corona Mine - Hepzibah, WV (Harrison County)
Cosner Coal Co.
Cosner Mine - Tunnelton, WV
Crichton Co.
Berryburg Mine - Berryburg, WV (Barbour County)
Cromling & Harold Co.
Barry Mine - Monongah, WV
Daugherty Coal Co.
Daughertys Mine - Terra Alta, WV
Delmont Peerless Coal
Delmont No. 11 Mine - Summersville, WV
Eastern Gas & Fuel Associates
Federal No. 1 Mine - Grant Town, WV (Mongahela/B&O)
Donegan Coal & Coke Co.
Donegan Nos. 2,3, and 3A Mines - Fenwick, WV (Nicholas County)
Eleanor Coal Co.
Barbour Mine - Berryburg, WV
Elk Coal Co.
Ella Mine - Adrian, WV (Upshur County)
Elk Lick Coal Co,
Gauley No. 2 Mine - Gauley River No. 2, WV (Webster County)
Elwood Company
Penn No. 1 Mine - Haywood, WV (Harrison County)
Ex-Cell Coal Co.
Laura Lee Mine - Lumberport, WV
Fairfax Mining Company
Arthurdale Mine - Reedsville, WV (Preston County)
Fairpoint Construction Co.
Bridgeport Strip - Bridgeport, WV
Fairland Fuel Corp
Katherine Mine - Lumberport, WV
Frances Mining Co.
Frances Mine - Frances, WV (Monongalia County)
Freeport Gas Coal Co.
Hilltop Mine - Nutter Fort, WV
Hilltop Mine No. 1 - Robey, WV (Harrison County, WV)
Hilltop Mine No. 2 - Wolf Summit, WV (Harrison County)
Gauley Eagle Coal & Coke Co.
Gauley Eagle No. 2 Mine - Muddlety, WV
Gauley Mountain Coal Comapny
Williams Mine - Johnson Run, WV (Webster County)
Gilmer Fuel Co., Inc.
Jon Tee Mine - Gilmer, WV
Grafton Coal Co.
Pepper Mine - Brownton, WV (Barbour County)
Gregory & Poole
Gregory No. 3 Mine - Wolf Summit, WV
Haywood Coal Co.
Haywood Mine - Haywood, WV (Harrison County)
Highland Coal Co.
Highland No. 1 Mine - Stonewood, WV (Harrison County)
Hitchman Coal & Coke Co. (Controlled by Tasa Coal Company)
Hitchman Mine - Benwood WV
Hodgeville Industrial Coals, Inc.
Lona No. 1 Mine - Buckhannon, WV
Houck Reidler Bros Coal Mining Co.
Lopuis Mine - Tunnelton, WV
Indian Coal Co.
Volga No. 1 Mine - Volga, WV (Barbour County)
Isaac Creek Coal Co. Inc.
Linda No. 1 Mine - Dola, WV (Harrison County)
Jamison Coal & Coke Co.
Jamison No. 9 Mine - Farmington, WV
Jay-Arr Coal Co.
Jay-Arr No. 1 Mine - Berryburg, WV
N.T. Jenkins Coal Co.
Ridge No. 1 Mine - Hammond, WV (Taylor County)
Jenkins Mine - Phillipi, WV
Jenks Bros. Coal Co.
Eagle No. 1 Mine - Hepzibah, WV (Harrison County)
Elwood M. Jenks Coal Co.
Orchard Mine - Piggott Siding, WV (Harrison County)
Joanne Coal Co.
Joanne Mine - Rachel, WV (Marion County)
Johnstown Coal & Coke Co. (Wva)
Crichton No. 4 Mine - Panther Gulch, WV
Jones Bros. Coal Co.
Cobb No. 1 Mine - Queen Shoals, WV
Kingwood Coal Co.
Miller No. 3 Mine - Kingwood, WV
Klink Coal Co.
Eleanor Mine - Lowsville, WV (B&O/Monongahela)
Kray Coal Co., Inc.
Ream Mine - Howesville, WV (Preston County) (B&O/WVN)
Lee Coal Co.
Queen No. 1 Mine - Buckhannon, WV
Lockview Coal Co.
Lockview Mine - Board, WV (Monongalia County)
Mard Coal & Coke Corp.
Mard Nos. 1 & 2 Mine - Tioga, WV (Nicholas County)
Marra Coal Co.
Hartley No. 1 Mine - Brownton, WV (Barbour County)
Martin Coal Co.
Halfway Mine - Simpson, WV (Marion County?)
Maryland-Century Coal Co.
Century No. 1 Mine - Century, WV (Barbour County)
Mason Bros. Coal Co.
Crystal Ice Mine - Grafton, WV
Webster No. 1 Mine - Webster, WV
Maureen Coal Co.
Cliff Mine - Meadowbrook, WV
Maust Coal & Coke Co.
Donegan No. 8 Mine - Cowen, WV (CRB&L/B&O)
Mount Hope Coal Company
Sterling-Sewell mine - Holcomb, WV (Nicholas County)
Mountain Fuel Co.
Glen Cambria Mine - Flemington, WV (Taylor County)
Mountain State Coal Co.
Mountain State Mine - Bickmore, WV (Clay County)
Murphy Creek Coal Co.
Murphy Mine - Weston,WV
Nancy Jane Coal Co.
Nancy Jane Mine - Trowbridge, WV (Preston County)
National Mines Corp.
Weirton Mine - (Captive) Morgantown, WV (B&O/Monongahela and Ohio Rivers)
Osborne Bros.
Osborne Mine - Hartland, WV (Clay County)
Panther Coal Co. of W. Va.
Panther No. 5 & 6 Mine - Panther No. 5 Mine, WV (Near Marybill _ Nicholas County)
Pardee & Curtin Lumber Co.
Arthur Mine - Lost Creek, WV
Bergoo No. 6 - Jerryville, WV
Bolair Mine - Bolair, WV
Pecks Run Coal Co.
Kano Mine - Pecks Run, WV (Upshur County)
Philippi Coal Corp.
Redrock Mine - Buckhannon, WV
Pickens Peerless Coal
Pickens Mine - Pickens, WV
Polino & Welling, Inc.
Welling Mine - Masontown, WV
Premar Coal Co.
Monitor No. 2 & 4 Mines - West End, WV (Tunnelton - Preston County)
Preston County Cole Co.
Cascade Mine - Cascade, WV (Preston County)
Hawley No. 1 Mine - Hawley, WV
Reppert Coal Mining Co. (Controlled by Reppert Coals, , Inc.)
Eagle No. 2 Mine - Dola, WV
Rich Sewell Coal & Coke Co.
Donegan No. 7 Mine - Jerryville, WV
Richwood Sewell Coal Co.
Burton Mine - Summersville, WV
Righter Valley Coal Co.
Righter Mine - Lost Creek, WV
Robey Run Coal Co.
Ruby Mine - Harrison Couny
Rochester & Pittsburgh Coal Co.
O' Donnell Mine - Four States, WV (Marion County)
Ross Construction Co.
Delmar No. 1 Mine - Flemington, WV (Taylor County)
Ruthbell Coal Corp.
Deep Hollow Mine - Albright, WV
Sandy Creek Coal Co.
Carolyn Mine - Carolyn, WV (Preston County)
Sewell Coal and Coke Co.
Royal No. 4 Mine - Curtain, WV (Nicholas County)
Shinnston Coal Co.
Hood Mine - Shinnston, WV
Sigley Coal Co.
Sigley Mine - Tunnelton, WV
Silvester Bros. Coal Co.
Coalton No. 1 Mine - Coalton, WV (Randolph County)
Simpson Creek Collieries Company, Inc.
Galloway No. 3 Mine - Flemington, WV
Slussar Coal Co.
Division Rin Mine - Ramp, WV (Harrison County)
Stanley Coal Co.
Banner No. 1 Mine - Hutton, Md (Mine was in Preston County, WV)
Stoetzer Coal Co.
Robert Mine - Shinnston, WV
Sullivan Trail Coal Co.
Mary Ann Mine - Buckhannon, WV
Sunnyhill Mining Co.
Sunnyhill No. 6 Tipple - Sunnyhill, WV
B.H. Swaney, Inc.
Erie No. 1 Mine - Erie, WV (Harrison County)
Erie No. 2 Mine - Oral, WV (Harrison County)
Tasa Coal Co.
Canyon Mine - Lake Lynn, PA
Tasa No. 7 Mine - Lost Creek WV
Keeley No. 1 Mine - Clarksburg, WV
Empire Mine - Clements, WV
Taylor & McMillen Coal Co.
Taylor Mine - Masontown, WV
Three Fork Coal Co.
Cassity No. 2 Mine - Cassity, Middle Fork, WV
Tuckahoe Mining Co., Inc.
Tuckahoe Strips - Century, WV (Barbour County)
Tunnelton Cooperative Coal Co.
Tunnelton Mine - Tunnelton, WV
United Coals, Inc.
United Mine - Clifford Siding, WV (Nicholas County)
Valley Camp Coal Co,
Alexander Mine - Moundsville, WV
Valley Camp No. 1 Mine - Elm Grove, WV
Valley Camp No. 3 Mine - Elm Grove, WV
Valley Camp No. 5 Mine - Elm Grove, WV
Valley Camp No. 7 Mine - Elm Grove, WV (?)
Virginia Coal Co.
Joyce Mine - Mt. Clare, WV
Joyce No. 2 Mine - Byron, WV
Virginia & Pittsburgh Coal & Coke Co.
Kingmont Mine - Kingmont, Wv
Morgan Mine - Hite and Rivesville, WV (B&O/MON)
W&H Coal Co.
Gum Mountain Mine - Century, WV
Wendel Coal Co., Inc.
Wendel Mine - Wendel, WV (Taylor County)
West Fork Collieries, Inc.
Vincent No. 4 Mine - Monongah, WV
West Virginia Coal & Coke Corporation
Norton Mine - Norton, WV
West Virginia Coal and Transportation Co.
Jeanne Anne No. 1 Mine - West Columbia, WV (B&O), Pomery, OH (C&O)
Jeanne Anne No. 6 Mine (C&O/B&O)
Jeanne Anne No. 7 Mine (C&O/B&O)
Jeanne Anne No 8 Mine (C&O/B&O)
Phil Williams Coal Co.
Williams Mine - Mabie, WV (Randolph County)
Woodstock Coal Co., Inc.
Hart No. 1 Mine - Mabie, WV
Woolridge Coal Mining Co.
Sewell Chief Mine - Holcomb, Curtin, WV
Zinn Brothers Co. Inc.
Zinn No. 12 Mine - Masontown, WV (?)
Afternoon Ruth, I'll just grab a Keith's and leave a twenty to pick up a round for later.
Well good to see another theme day off and runing again, some pretty good reading and looking from what I ahve seen so far.
Tom-Yup the dentist said that that tooth didn't want to leave, he asked me If I wanted it but I told him to donate it to medical science. left a crater the size of I don't know what in my mouth though I do so love the mush diet. Nice piece of wiork to get us rolling this morning. I figure that the B&O should keep us going for a couple of days. Their passenger trains and steamers alone could take up pages of info. I guess I will need to reintroduce Mr Kopperkettle,another waif from time that Sir Nick left us with. I'll just say that if the girls, lista speacial on the menu board make sure your health insurance is paid up.
Lars-Happy landings, now don't get too sunburnt while you are away. Nice book covers as always as well sir As menioned at some point in the far distant past Mr Kopperkettle is an Aztec refugee that Nick dragged in right before the old page shut down. He does odd jobs around the kitchen and was trained in the gentler arts of Zepplin Flying by H&H. Normally you'll see him hanging about with Boris unloading the food service cars behind the bar.
James-Good to see you abck in again, nice photo's to compliment the B&O theme today as well. The Booze line trackage that's left actually is still owned and run by the CSX, they use the CN and CP as interchange roads as they are landlocked now where they are. Cheaper than trackage rights. The distillery is still very busy as is the oil and chemical spurs they run at Sarnia. At least four unit trains dedicated to the plants a week still.
DL-I'm glad you liked the Booze line story. It's one of the more colourfull lines in Southwestern Ontario to be sure. You are right about the climate we restore and operate our equipment in. We purposly don't run any service in november and December. Most of the cars don't have heating in them anyway so the trips would be unpleasant for the visiters. And the part of Rurual Milton we are in does get quite a bit of snow coverage. Just about a foot over the railhead this past winter !
Eric-The LEDR ran roughl;y Northwest from Windsor but connected through to Chatham and Sarnia as well with ti's branch lines. They didn't enetr Windsor yard as you remember it insteadt they interchanged in Walkerville outside of town near the preasant day VIA station.As Topm mentione dvery few in Quebec feel any family ties to France, just for themselves for the most part.
CM3-Two great B&O posts from you today. they really gave the feel of the RR.
A pint of Bathams and a round for the house please RUTH
Another good theme day, this time the B&O.
ROB Thanks for the Classic Steam #19 encore. I wonder if Hiram Walker was any relation to the Walker's famous whiskey distillers from Scotland .It said that grand railway building was going to be turned in to condos etc but keeping the same outward appearance, I wonder if this happened. Good news the distillery still uses rail..
Thanks for the kind words; I am still working on the named locos of the LNER. Real glad you are to take the head job. It is good to hear of KOPPERKETTLE again he does a great job bring the beer from across the pond in the Zeppelin, although I know he still misses NICK.
In the Kansas City Star it told about 10 old KC. Streetcars owned by a gentleman in Pennsylvania. Here is a link to the story
http://www.kansascity.com/501/story/72845.html
Also in the story, it gave this link to a great photo album of KC cars and work cars. There are a lot of photos and I will have to go back later for a better look.
http://www.davesrailpix.com/kcmo/kcmo.htm
ERIC Thanks for the info on the train pipes. In the UK the trains were vacuum braked in steam days in my time. With just the brake pipe and a steam heat hose if the loco was fitted to supply steam heat.
It was interesting to see the movement order, were they filled before the train left or could they be filled in over the radio.
JAMES Good to see you back in.
I see Milwaukee Road steam loco # 261 is coming to Duluth. Here is a link to the locomotive.
http://www.261.com/
DL Glad you liked the post on the LMS names, still working on the LNER ones, and then I will have a look at the early diesels names
Thanks for the info on the Victoria, glad the still have a ‘Drinker's Bar' and Beeston station.
Helston did have a station at one time. We when were there we had a look for the place where the station was but could not find any signs. It was on the end of a GWR branchline. I have found this link to the Blue Anchor.
http://telematics.ex.ac.uk/realcornwall/foodanddrink/spingo_simon.htm
There are TWO Royal Scot class loco preserved. Royal Scot is being overhauled to running condition; the loco is based at Bressingham Museum in Norfolk. I believe the boiler is away being got into steamable condition. The other ‘Scot' preserved is No 6115 Scot's Guardsman, this loco is not in running condition and I have not heard lately what is happening with the loco. 6115 was the last Scot in BR service and was bought straight from BR. It was based at the, sadly now closed, Dinting Railway Centre The Loco did run only a couple of main line specials in the mid 1970s, I was fortunate to be on one of these when we had her from York to Manchester via Sheffield and the Hope Valley line.. I have never known a loco throw as many sparks as she did
A great loco it will be great to see one back on the main line again.
I believe it was the GWR King class loco No 6000 that went to the B&O Centenary Exhibition. I will try to find a link to the photo of the bell the loco was presented with and still carries.
TOM I received your two E-Mails and set a reply yesterday afternoon. I will copy it and send it again after I post this.
I hope CINDY doesn't find out about the ‘candlelit' dinner with Miss Molly Throttlebottom. You should have a good evening but don't go into the storeroom with her if she as got her cane, although BORIS seemed to look forward to it
It is good that some of your old photos have survived, where mine went was a mystery, although they were not of a very good quality it would have been good to have them still.
It will be good to talk about your 1953 trip at the rendezvous
Really enjoying the B&O day. Many thanks TOM, for the Cincinnatian and the Columbian and their consists. It is good the La Paz car was saved. CM3 for the lines that went into the B&O
Evening Tom and gents. Please forgive the absence of this unworthy one. I'll have a shot of paint thinner, as I'm starting to think that paint is running in my veins anymore. Please chip everyone who contributed a B&O article today. I will need to get something together myself, which I will do very soon. Busy days for this wicked boy. I'll tell you more about them in my next post.
Terrific stuff guys. I need to run and return to give them the attention they deserve.
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