Hi Tom and all.
A cup of your famous coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDY.
ERIC I think the passengers had to bring their own pieces to play the games. I agree I always look out the window when traveling by train and most of the time on an aircraft if it is not too cloudy.
Yes I think they done a really good job with painting the class 73 in Pullman livery
Many thanks for the photos. Was the Trondheim streetcar running in a museum. It was a sad sight to see the steam locomotives stored waiting a final trip to the scrapyard.1968 was the last year of standard gauge steam on British Railways and in the locomotive depots in the North West of England there would be similar scenes of a lot of steam locos waiting their fate.
ROB The bag is not worried about Vito The Hit, it is very good friends with H&H, who Vito's goons live in fear of (with very good reason).
I think the Pullman livered No 73101 was quite often used to bring the empty stock of the VSOE restored Pullmans into London Victoria station and must have looked a great sight, with the Pullmans being hauled on a tour by a steam locomotive. I don't know if 73101 did do any tours with the Pullmans.
Yes a ‘wardrobe malfunction' with H&H on St Patrick's Day would involve a lot of work for Inspector Clueless and his crew in the ensuing riots. I am seeing their Mushy Peas in a different light, no wonder BORIS like them so much.
Many thanks for the Classic Juice Encore. Enjoyed reading about the development in the cars design from wooden cars to wooden bodies and steel underframes to the ‘safety cars'.
MIKE Many thanks for the round and the old photos and links to Long Island City. I noticed the Pullman car in one of the photos and it was a good photo of the inside of the power station in one of the links.
TOM. Afraid I did not get the hotel reservation e-mail
Good to read about COPPERKETTLE again, he seems to spend most of his time flying the Zeppelin recently, no doubt keeping out the clutches of H&H.
Enjoyed the song titles. I blame the spell checker for the ‘stake' mind you some of with some of H&H's offerings it would be the right spelling (but I dare not tell them that.)
I see in a survey that a lot more people take the day after St Patrick's Day off from work than on the day itself, so I guess it would have to be a two day holiday. As you say it would be a good day to stay home if it was a holiday.
That is an interesting link to the ‘navvies' they got the name from navigator as they were involved in building the canals from the mid 1700s, so when the railways came along there was a workforce available. I have read it took about 6 months for a fit farm worker to be a strong as the railway navvy.
Many thanks for the Penn Station Encore. It was a really grand building before its demolition. I have been there, I took the train from Newark Airport when I had a long layover between flights, I would have loved to have seen the station in its heyday.
Great encore of the much missed DOUG's photos and descriptions. They certainly have some great exhibits at the IRM.
For my contribution to photo and encore day, more from the Stockton & Darlington 150 at Shildon in 1975.
LMS 4-6-0 Jubilee class No 45690 'Leander' introduced in 1934. One of th
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Another from our long-gone UTB barndad Doug - this one from Page 220, 15 Jan 2006 on the Original Thread . . .
Chicago & North Western 7700 Builder: American Car & Foundry Company Year Built: 1923 Seats: 70 Length: 80ft 10in Width: 10ft 3in Height: 13ft 6in Weight: ??? lbs Brakes: UC Trucks: 4 Wheel Description: Lightweight Coach/Baggage Chicago Transit Authority 6656 Builder: St. Louis Car Company Year Built: 1957 Seats: 51 Length: 48ft Width: 9ft 4in Height: 11ft 10in Weight: 45000 lbs Brakes: All Electric Motors: 4 WH 1432LK Control: B2A-XDA1G Trucks: StL B3 Description: Single End / Double Truck / Arch Roof / PCC Southern Pacific 1518 Builder: Electro Motive Division GM Model: SD-7 Horsepower: 1500 Length: 60ft 8 in Width: 10ft 8in Height: 14ft 1in Brakes: 24RL Engine: 16-645CE Motors: 6 EMD Trucks: EMD C Description: Diesel-Electric / First SD Series Built Union Refrigerator Transit 75524 Builder: General American Transportation Year Built: 1950 Length: 43ft 5in Width: 10ft 2in Height: 13ft 8in Weight: 64400 lbs Brakes: AB Trucks: Barber Description: Steel Reefer / American Beef Packers General American Pfaudler Corp. 1021 Builder: General American Transportation Year Built: 1947 Length: 51ft 5in Width: 9ft 11in Height: 13ft 2in Weight: 74900 lbs Brakes: U-12 Trucks: Barber Description: Steel Milk Car Union Pacific Railroad 907149 Builder: Union Pacific Year Built: 1939 Length: 40ft 8in Width: 9ft 9in Height: 13ft 1in Weight: 57200 lbs Brakes: AB Trucks: Sym Gould Hi-Speed Description: Hi-Speed Express Box Car / Class B50-25 (Ex 9195) Chicago Burlington & Quincy 204738 Builder: CB&Q Year Built: ??? Weight: 65000 lbs Trucks: 4 Wheel (Single) Description: Scale Test Car
Enjoy <again>
Tom
Pete - your Rendezvous hotel reservations have been resent . . .
A finale for this ENCORE! Saturday . . . bringing up the rear, a caboose or three from UTB barndad Doug <who else!> . . . this one from Page 232, 29 Jan 2006 on the Original Thread . . . .
United States Navy 7 1917 Four-Wheel Saddle Tank Switcher (0-4-0-T) The smallest steam locomotives were "tank" switchers, built without separate tenders. Fuel was carried in a bunker behind the cab, while water was carried in tanks alongside or straddling the boiler. Most used mechanically simple designs, often with Stephenson valve gear and other components considered outmoded for mainline use. The navy purchased several 0-4-0T saddle tank locomotives for use at the Brooklyn Naval Yard, where their diminutive size was ideal for the dockyard's sharp curves and tight clearances. Navy 7 was sold to American Creosote Works in Jackson, Tennessee in 1942, and remained in service until the 1950's. Builder - Vulcan Iron Works, 2644. Tractive effort 9,000 pounds. Weight - 78,000 pounds. Illinois Central 9792 Builder: Illinois Central Year Built: 1940 Length: 36ft 7in Width: 10ft 6in Height: 15ft 2in Weight: ??? lbs Brakes: AB Trucks: Scullin Description: Steel Cupola Side Door Caboose
Emporium Theatre listings tomorrow . . .
Afternoon Leon my friend , just a quick pint of guiness if you don't mind.
Pete-Glad that you are enjoying the re-reads of the streetcar types.It's been quite a while since they were out so I figured they would make for good new/old reading for everyone.
Thanks for the additional info on those Pullman's as I said a real classy paint job.good to hear that the bags finally on side,with H&H as agents/body guards he/she/it should do well.
Nice steam photo's as well.
Tom-I can't understand why your upset about the mushy peas you never eat them and now you know why
Did you catch the special on the History network on the discovery of the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald,it was quite good nice shots of the wreck with the underwater cams as well,pretty much confirmed the official reports of the loss.They attached a plaque as well to the wreck as well.
Nice to see the re-runs of Dougs pictures some really nice stuff over there at the IRM.Of possible interest that preserved SP SD7 was one of the original two demonstrators that were built to flaunt the new six axle speacial duty line of locomotives,I can't remember which one it was 990 or 991.The Chicago L car is a mate to number 48 at our museum.We picked it up for our collection as at one point when the TTC was designing the Scarborough LRT line that type of car was originally concidered for use on that line.
Nice to see Nick's origine of Copperkettle story again,he still the best Zep pilot that we have.At least when he's flying he only straifs the Second Class one trip out of ten unlike H&H's eleven times out of ten.
Not to worry we are not accepting nay money from the Second National bank.We are simply charging them set fees for the use of bits of our place and the Mentor train station for the use of the film crews. We are also acting as the talent agents for Pete the Bag and any extra parts which are given to the staff emmbers or mascotts.
As it sits now the Bag will star as himself/itself/herself Pete is narrating,and Sean Connery is playing Pete.leon Boris and H&H will likely have some small walk on parts and H&H will of coarse be providing the catering ( more money for the bathtub )and no no mushy peas will be allowed as h'ors d'euves.There is a possibility that Cindy and the Ladies of perpetual motion will have some long dance sequences as well downside to that is that H&H will also be in the chorus line
Now there may be a made for TV sequal staring the Gucci hand bag as the bag and Rowen Atkinson as Pete but it will not invlove us.But it is the affair of Vito and his groups. Bottom line we should end up with more than enough cash to have "Oktoberfest" and the "St Pats day" and the "April aniversary" parties. All in all a good deal for our new Mentor Villiage Talent scounts and bottle washing society.
Hey Tom I see that you've come back in with some more rendezvous photo's all good love those cabooses or is that cabeese
Rob
Another encore from the old thread.The final part of the new streetcar design series.
Classic Juice #8 The PCC The PCC car. The final of what I think were the major three tactics / car designs brought out to keep the riding public on the street railways, as opposed to busses or cars. The PCC or Presidents Conference Committee cars were designed by a committee of the 21 largest streetcar companies of North America ( Toronto , Philly . Clebveland , KC , St Louis , Chicago , and Detroit being amoung the designing presidents ) The company presidents got together in St Louis in 1934 to brainstorm and come up with a car design to compete with burgeoning compition from cars and busses also to modernize and maintain passenger levels in the final stages of the great depression. They wanted to go with a car that could operate as a one man vehicle( cost saving) most older designs had been so converted at this point) utilizing the revolutionary Pay as you pass ( the farebox ) idea started by Peter Witt in the late teens. They also wanted a lighter weight, faster car ( the older wood and steel cars Witt's nearside's etc had heavy framing and were slow and in some designs rough riding ) which would be comfortable and warm and appealing to modern people. The cars ended up with a light weight unibody design which as was envogue at the time streamlined with leather,padded upolstry in single an double seat sets the length of the car. Efficient electric in floor heating and a very quick 0 to 50 mph start up which would leave auto's and cars weighting in a dead start. These were the frist street cars that could actually maintain a constant quick speed with which they could keep up with traffic. The cars were first put into production at the St Louis Car Company with the first units rolling off the assembly line in 1936. Pullman Standard and CC&F ( Canadian Car & Foundry of Montreal ) soon had licence to build the design as well. The first CC&F units rolled off the assembly line for the TTC in 1938. Our museum has air electric # 4000 the TTC'S original Candain prototype car. ( still operable as well ) The first batches of the cars had a definate art deco design very curvy and gracefull. They are also known as the air-electric PCC's meaning that the doors and brakes were air powered with the traction power and heaters being electric. In 1944 PS and St Louis car began building the all electric version's which featured as the name suggests all door brake and traction power being electric ( thus simplifying maintenance ) The later all electrics could be mu'ed for train service on busy routes. Shaker heights in Cleveland Bloor and St Clair in Toronto are two that come imediatly to mind. The PCC's certainly had staying power they were manufactured from 1936 straight through to 1951. Many external changes ocured to the designs over the production spans. A few double ended cars, larger bus type windows, ommision of standee windows, and roof ventilation options, etc etc. Close to 6000 units were produce for the major Us and Canadian cities as well as several European city systems, in France , Belgium and Holland. The TTC even sold older air-electric cars to Alexandria and Cairo Egypt. Several Us cities also sold off their cars to Turkey or other cities as they discontinued service or replaced with newer LRV's. At one point in 1965 the TTC went all PCC system wide with 400 cars they purchased new and the additional cars they bought used a refurbished from US cities finally topping out at 775 cars on the system. Today most PCC's are in musuems however San Fransisco's street railway runs several lines with just PCC cars bought mostly from Toronto & other cities as well. One thing with theirs are that they maintain the cars with their classic donner paint jobs so on San Fran you can see Baltimore,Detroit ,Cleveland . PE just about everyone's liveries plying the streets still doing what they do best. Quick efficient point "A" to point "B" public transit. Rob
Hi Tom and all,
The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please Leon.
Rob. They have a restricted licence system for young drivers here as well, can only drive with a licenced driver on board, no passengers if no licenced person present, no driving after 10pm, they still do`nt like any authority cramping their style whatsoever! Enjoyed all your info and on the Nearside Cars and Peter Witt, and the Classic Juice Encores and all the pics of the preserved steam loco`s and trolleys`.
Mike. Nice lot of pics and URL`s on the old maps and Old Long Island City.
Eric. We saw "Whale Rider" when it was 1st released, it`s got a heart tugging story to it, a nice family movie., A great set of pics of the LA trolley, Pikes Peak RR, Trondheim tram, and small steam Loco`s and nice link to the Orange Empire Museum.
Dan. Very interesting link to the Lister site, we used to have Lister generators in the artillery in the 50`s, replaced by Meadows sets in the 60`s, great links to the Grand Central Railway and Crich Tram museum. I`d clean forgotten about the 'mackers" dialect from the Sunderland area which is very much the same as "pit yacker Geordie" you could tell if someone was a 'macker' by the way they pronounced "book" they said "buook"
CM3. Hope you`re feeling a lot better now? Enjoyed your very interesting links to the PRR Altoona Shops story.
Ron. Good to see you`ve sorted out the `puter virus problem, a very nice compilation of Railway Events of 1938, and the info on my favourite LNER A4 loco`s.
Pete. Many thanks for your latest lot of Shildon loco parade photo`s, they were really great and are definate "keepers". Nice shots of the Deltics` and the Class 56 loco`s, as Dan has said, that tram looks very much like a Blackpool one by the looks of power pole assembly on it`s roof. Federation Brewery`s must have other sites other than Newcastle as they supply all the Federated Clubs in the UK. It`s funny how some English accents sound to other English speakers, here in NZ they say "fush und chups" for "fish and chips" and "yis" for "yes", some of the vowel variations are so humerous, I`ve never been mistaken as an Aussie over here at all.
Nick. Your Welsh menu sounds delicious and a good deal more tempting than "Welsh Rarebit", are you taking any orders?
Tom. Many thanks for your e-mails and latest news, when they held the British Commonwealth Games at Vancouver it did look very much like Christchurch in the TV shots. The local library is getting a copy of "Ice Bound" for me to read, we have a great library service here and they are more than helpful all the time. Really enjoyed all of your postings, the Canada trilogy with Gordon Lightfoot singing to the video was a "cracker". Nice lot of info in the Passenger Train Nostalgia #68 on the NYC with all the Drumheads and a great write up with pics on the NYC RR`s Pennsylvania Station, it was nice to see all those reposts of barndad Doug`s with all the great info and pics of his. Enjoyed the discussion you had with Dan on the various DMU`s.
See ya, Allan
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Page 188 - Mike (wanswheel) at 9:49 AM: Interesting link on the LI City power plant dismantling. Some remedial stuff about ‘lectric - AC/DC; good reading.
Nice spate of fotos . . . liked the one with the PRR heavyweights!
Why the edit First offering was fine - especially the chart vs map stuff. All that fine effort . . . Hmmmmmm.
Round appreciated!
Page 188 - Pete (pwolfe) at 1:49 PM: "In" with an < I3 > Post ‘n some fine foto reruns!
Knew a guy who had worked several summers on the railroad track gangs, earning money to pay his college tuition back in the 60s. The guy appeared to be as strong as an ox ‘n he was. Fortunately he had a level disposition, otherwise . . . Just shaking hands with him was an experience. <yikes> He said he drove spikes with a sledge hammer . . . so I guess that would do it. <ugh> Don't recall what road he worked for, but he's from Pennsylvania, up ‘round lake Erie . . . said the train would take ‘em out to the work site - drop ‘em off, returning at dusk . . . long day, fer sure, fer sure.
There's an educational tour in that foto spread of yours - well done, Mate!
Appreciate the continuing support of our ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
Page 188 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 5 PM ‘n 5:13 PM: In with a couple to maintain the momentum of the day - which really was rather abysmal if taken as a whole. I surprised myself at Posting as many as I did . . . pretty much an empty house during daylite . . .
The idea of Saturday as our ENCORE! ‘n Photo Posting Day is to bring back those special Posts from the past. Not the "data dump" stuff <RIP> - but material that will grab the attention of the viewer . . . barndad Doug's material is pretty much at the top of my list as he put together not only fotos, but descriptions as well.
You already know that I detest, dislike, have disdain for, ‘n hate the term "cabeese." Doesn't exist in my lexicon . . . <uh oh> Since I'm the Proprietor ‘n have possession of "The Book of <tweetable> OH-FENCE-EZ" - I'd be verrrrrrrrrry careful about <aboot> using it ‘round here! <triple uh oh> There's another that bothers me - ‘n I can't put my finger on why - but this "thanks for sharing" makes my hackles stand up. Really don't know why . . . Hmmmmmmm.
Those weren't Rendezvous fotos - all were from the archives of barndad Doug submissions taken at the IRM <I believe>.
Thanx for putting things straight <????> regarding the "Black Bag" movie-in-the-making. Subtitles, man - subtitles!! Gotta use ‘em with you-know-who narrating!
Cindy has approached me with her thoughts about participating with her Knitting Circle ‘n Ladies of Perpetual Motion. As you KNOW - she's MINE, MINE, MINE - but I see no harm in it. So I gave her the - if you follow my drift. <grin>
PCC car rerun always a good read!
Really great having you back again, Rob - appreciate all the good stuff you've come up with ‘n of course helping to keep "Our" Place - OUR place!
Page 188 - Allan (Gunneral) 7:39 PM: A fine < I3 > Post from our Resident Downunder Kiwi Connection!
In eavesdropping your Post <barkeep's prerogative> I couldn't agree with you more regarding your assessment of "Whale Rider." After viewing it when first arrived at the theatres ‘round here, we knew that i
Andersonville (1996)
PLOT SUMMARY: They left the nightmare...and entered Hell. Captured Union soldiers cope with life inside the Civil War's most notorious prisoner-of-war camp. A powerful, compelling tale of war and will, with Emmy Award-winning direction by John Frankenheimer and a cast including Frederic Forrest (Apocalypse Now) and William H. Macy (ER, Fargo) Year: 1996 Director: John Frankenheimer Starring: Jarrod Emick, Frederic Forrest, Ted Marcoux
They left the nightmare...and entered Hell. Captured Union soldiers cope with life inside the Civil War's most notorious prisoner-of-war camp. A powerful, compelling tale of war and will, with Emmy Award-winning direction by John Frankenheimer and a cast including Frederic Forrest (Apocalypse Now) and William H. Macy (ER, Fargo) Year: 1996 Director: John Frankenheimer Starring: Jarrod Emick, Frederic Forrest, Ted Marcoux
Wag the Dog Rider (1997)
PLOT SUMMARY: Not only was Barry Levinson's comedy shot in a relatively fast period of 29 days, the satire of politics and show business feels as if it were made yesterday. There's a fresh spin quite evident here, a nervy satire of a presidential crisis and the people who whitewash the facts. The main players are a mysterious Mr. Fix-It (Robert De Niro), veteran Hollywood producer (Dustin Hoffman), and a White House aide (Anne Heche). Can the president's molesting of a young girl be buried in the two weeks before an election? A war in Albania just might do the trick. In the good old days, the president would just invade. With modern technology, it's even cleaner. The hungry press looks for any lead, convenient misinformation is created by the latest Hollywood fakery ("all developed by the new James Cameron film") creating images and merchandise all instantly packaged. And it must be real, because it's on TV. David Mamet's script never questions the morals or the absolute secrecy needed to pull this thing off. He and director Barry Levinson have enough truth in the story to make you wonder what is real news and what is just promotion . . . .--Doug Thomas
Not only was Barry Levinson's comedy shot in a relatively fast period of 29 days, the satire of politics and show business feels as if it were made yesterday. There's a fresh spin quite evident here, a nervy satire of a presidential crisis and the people who whitewash the facts. The main players are a mysterious Mr. Fix-It (Robert De Niro), veteran Hollywood producer (Dustin Hoffman), and a White House aide (Anne Heche). Can the president's molesting of a young girl be buried in the two weeks before an election? A war in Albania just might do the trick. In the good old days, the president would just invade. With modern technology, it's even cleaner. The hungry press looks for any lead, convenient misinformation is created by the latest Hollywood fakery ("all developed by the new James Cameron film") creating images and merchandise all instantly packaged. And it must be real, because it's on TV. David Mamet's script never questions the morals or the absolute secrecy needed to pull this thing off. He and director Barry Levinson have enough truth in the story to make you wonder what is real news and what is just promotion . . . .--Doug Thomas
SHORT: The Three Stooges - Micro-Phonies (1945)
PLOT SUMMARY: The boys begin the short as workmen getting chewed out by their boss. Fleeing from an unsuccessful attempt to repair a radiator, they end up in a recording studio, where Curly (in drag) is mistaken for an opera singer by a woman who sees the boys lip-synching to a recording made earlier in the day by Alice Andrews (Christine McIntyre). Invited to sing at a party that night, the boys bump into Signor Spumoni, who knows they are fakes, and Alice, who wants to win a job as a singer on her own to impress her father. Spumoni exposes the boys as fakes, and everyone realizes it was Alice who was the singer they were hearing. As the boys get what is coming to them, Christine's character is rewarded with the job. A good performance from Curly, considering he was not in the best of health when this short was made.
The boys begin the short as workmen getting chewed out by their boss. Fleeing from an unsuccessful attempt to repair a radiator, they end up in a recording studio, where Curly (in drag) is mistaken for an opera singer by a woman who sees the boys lip-synching to a recording made earlier in the day by Alice Andrews (Christine McIntyre). Invited to sing at a party that night, the boys bump into Signor Spumoni, who knows they are fakes, and Alice, who wants to win a job as a singer on her own to impress her father. Spumoni exposes the boys as fakes, and everyone realizes it was Alice who was the singer they were hearing. As the boys get what is coming to them, Christine's character is rewarded with the job. A good performance from Curly, considering he was not in the best of health when this short was made.
Good evening folks , figured that I would let myself in the back door and finish the weeks paperwork,nice and quiet in here as well with the bar closed and Leon ,Boris and the critters ares till out trampling through the wilderness.Word of cautin when Boris and Leon head out on these extended nature walks they generally bring back game with them,and not game in teh sence the rest of us apriciate.So don't eat any of the un-named speacials next week unless you like squirrel, possum or other such unusual fare.<uh oh >
Tom-My mistake , I had thought those were shots from the rendezvous last year,but I was out of touch at that point.Doug did have a wonderfull way of summing things up and including pretty pictures along the way.Here's hopping that he still looks in once in a while.
No problemo with the subtitles,Molly is on it, couldn't think of a better person to do it. .Great to here that there will be some "bag knitting " in the upcomming movieNice of you to nurture and support Cindy's hobbies,even nicer that you have allowed her to share with the world
You must post a list of those phrases words ( woids ) and the like that irk you to the point of tweeting,nice to have a fresh warning.Great movie picks again as always. the Emporium has been a raring success ca-ching ca-ching !
Mike-Nice shots sir, lots of interesting stuff there
Allan-Ah yes the wayward youth do tend to find their ways around most of the controls here as well. What bugs and irks me to no end is that when they are caught they are handled with kit gloves and a general wringing of the hands If the punishment fits the offence, it should be used not modified.Otherwise why have the punishments listed in the criminal code my rant 's over but it does PO me so.
You are indeed a luckey luckey man if the area arounf your home and Christchurch looks like those views of BC. Why would you ever leave. Mind you I felt the same way last year when we visited Newfoundland,both the wife an I felt more at home there than in Ontario where we have both lived our entire lives. Some places just feel like home.
I am glad I brought my flash light so I can find the mail slot in the door. There it goes.
Some unexpected events kept me away from this bar this weekend, but here are my comments. All drinks on me this Monday!
Rob – Nice of Hilda to keep an eye on me. I feel very safe! Interesting articles on the Birney Safety Car and the PCC. A photo of one of each below.Birney Safe Car.Los Angeles’ first PCC from 1937. Tom – Yes, we need all the rain we can get here in the desert. I would love to travel by train all the way from New York to Chicago on the Water Level Route. Thanks for the article on Penn Station! I agree, it was next to a crime to destroy the old Penn Station! Penn Station of today reminds me more of a subway station than a railroad station. Interesting photos in Doug’s old posts! I guess they show equipment from Illinois Railway Museum. I have to go to that museum again. A lot of stuff to check!Another set of good movies at the Emporium! Andersonville is a must see. I’ve read about that prison. I think it officailly was called Camp Sumter. Mike – Thanks for the Long Island City photos!Pete – The Trondheim car was in regular service when I took the photo, but that was many years ago. I don’t even know if that particular streetcar is preserved today. I hope so, but couldn’t find any info when I did some research. Thanks for the photos from the Stockton & Darlington 150 in 1975! Must have been a very interesting anniversary!Allan – That’s what I thought! Whale Rider is a family film, probably with some tragic stuff but with a happy ending. I like that.
Eric
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A smile to begin the week!
When asked if he wanted his pizza sliced into 4 or 8 pieces. He said, "Four, I don't think I can eat eight."
<A Yogi-ism!>
Another Monday has rolled ‘round - can you believe it Okay - fill up the mugs with our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend coffee. Check out The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n take a look at our Menu Board selections for <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts!
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Page 188- Rob (trolleyboy) at 7:33 PM: The Manager's duties never cease - "in" for a spin to check out things before opening up on Monday - what a guy!
There's always a "benefit" to the romps thru the forests of Boris ‘n Leon - we DO have our Sausage ‘n Road Kill MoSheen -
There's something to be said about finding a place where you feel so much "at home" - go there!
Glad you stopped by . . .
Monday - Feb 25th:
Page 188 - Eric (EricX2000) at 1:09 AM: Yes, Camp Sumter in Georgia became known as the infamous Andersonville . . .
Noted that your Phoenix NHL team pretty much put the lid on any hopes of my Blues making the playoffs. Actually neither team deserves to get "in" . . . another poor season for St. Louis. They haven't been anywhere near the "same" since the lock-out season . . .
Nice looking trolleys - prefer the PCC!
I'm sure the guys will appreciate a day "on Eric" . . . visit ‘n ROUNDS appreciated!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good Morning Barkeep and all present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. We got about an inch of "scattered clouds" last night. Gas isat $3.29/gal.
Allan was by with comments.
Eric visited with information and some traction photos - I enjoyed the shot of the car at Trondheim.
Rob has been visiting with all sorts of historical information as well.
Mike - Thanks for sending the links - I remember Bond bread real well. They had a bakery not too far from my grandmother's place in Providence - I still remember the smell of baking bread. Power house material was an excellent addition to the archives and I really enjoyed the Pullman yard shot - tremendous amount of detail there.
OSP sent some NYC advertising material; the Great Steel Fleet was still pretty much intact at the time that ad appeared. Penn Station - egad! A Difference between night and day. I'm on my way to the Theatuh to see the latest features. Also appreciated the cut of the NH electric.
Work safe
Morning Ruth , I think since good ole Eric is buying I'll have the usual a number three and the speacial extra octaned BK coffee in a thermos Bit o activity this morning at the bah which is always good. Yes Boris you may do your feeding rounds of the critters and as always that small jar of PPF is for you.
Eric-Nice shots of those two saftey cars, though I do prerfer the older looks wise the Birney has it hands downs but as to ride quality and comfort the PCC wins hands down .Thanks for posting them, puts a capper on my encores
CM3-Good to see you this morning as well,cool and crisp here as wells,gas prices well we won't go there been hovering aroun $1.06 a litre
Tom-Neat New Haven line drawing where did you amnage to scare those two up it and the GG1,aer you the "arteest" looks like none of our NHL teams will make the final cut a P-pour year again this one
Well gents work calls see everyone this evening
Good to see CM3 Shane ‘n Rob "in" today . . .
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A Nickel's Worth of Classic Covers!
Number Seven
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(1) RR Magazine - Apr 1940 - Railroad Avenue
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(2) RR Magazine - Sep 1952 - Houston Union Station
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(3) The RR Man's Magazine - Initial issue - Oct 1906
(4) The RR Man's Magazine - Brakeman of the Good Old Days - Aug 1909
(5) The RR Man's Magazine - Christmas 1916
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#6 . . . Page 172
A pint of Bathams that Eric is getting please RUTH
TOM Many thanks for DOUG's encore photos of the IRM. Some great locos, cars and cabooses It looks like that ex U.S. Navy 0-4-0 Tank Switcher was under renovation perhaps it is in running condition now. I bet there must be some photos of the tanks working in the Brooklyn Navy Yard.
I bet that guy you met who worked on a track gang to pay for college, would be popular on the football team with his strength.
Looking forward to the films on at the Emporium, as they are two films I have not seen. They should be good with the serious Andersonville and the humorous Wag the Dog and, of course, the Stooges.
Many thanks for the Classic Covers #7. The first one of the Railroad Magazine I find very interesting I wonder if it was an old photograph they have added color to, or a painting, it is very good whichever it is. I will have to have a look for the Railroad Man's Magazine at the UMSL library; the Christmas issue looks full of good reading. Don't quite understand the 10 cents a copy yet it was $1.99 for a year.
ROB Glad you liked the steam photos.
Many thanks for the info on Doug's photos and the Classic Juice Encore on the PCC cars. They seem to have been a very successful design; I wonder if they are any still working in European cities or Egypt and Turkey they were sold to.
Some PCC cars in San Francisco last September.
It seems Our Place will be well off with the money from the filming, we will have to convince the filmmakers that we need a live steam engine, so they will pay for its renovation.
That is a very good point about when you visit a certain place, you know you could stay there.
ALLAN Glad you are enjoying the Shildon photos, just 6 left now, they have brought back good memories for me. I must admit I never thought I would see a production Deltic work a train through Rugby, there has been some remarkable sights of preserved locomotives working where they never reached in BR days..To those who make it happen
It is strange how there are different accents in short distances like there was no mistaking a Leicester accent only 20 miles distance from a Rugbyand Birmingham, 30 miles, is completely different. The Black Country that joins up to Birmingham is a different accent as well. I am sure someone must have done a study how accents evolved.
ERIC Thanks for the drink.
Enjoyed the Photos of the Birney and the early PCC cars.
Yes I too hope that streetcar at Trondheim is still around today, it is a good-looking vehicle.
The S&D 150th Anniversary and cavalcade was a great event. I think it surprised a lot of people how popular it was. The North Eastern Railway held a cavalcade in 1875 and the LNER had one in 1925. BR also held a 3-day event at Rainhill in 1980 called ‘Rocket 150'.[tup]
Well RUTH another pint please, it always tastes better when someone has bought it for you.
Pete.
Good evening gentlemen all-If I may have your attention for a moment.........thank you....I have this day received the following from the food and beveridge dept. of the beaureau of red tape and obfuscation...." Dear ............ ,As I am sure you are aware,this is a leap year.
Therefore,in order to protect the statuatory rights of all citizens,from March 1st until December 31st of this year,soup of the day must be advertised as `soup of yesterday` and daily specials as `yesterdays specials`
Thank you for your co-operation,yours ................."
-Isnt it good to know they care ..now then-drinks-Leon,a double round at he very least I think-I am celebrating -and why I hear you ask ???
Well-First and foremost`cos my pal Tony,the singer in the country band,got released from hospital this weekend after quite a nasty shock & is ready to come out to play again,
Secondly-The English rugby team performed their popular "Battle of Waterloo" revue show to a packed house-pure edge-of-the-seat stuff-It`s good to win,but better to win in Paris
Thirdly:-For the first time in nearly 3 years (unless one of the group historians has a better reference ) A train was run on my S.O.B line-or S&D line as it`s going to be this year-was only a small scale affair-An M.o.W train--a former L.M.S 3f 0-6-0 tank loco with an ex G.W clerestory bk 3rd,2 5-plank opens & a brake van ran from the low level station to the basement level freight yard-the Hamworthy quay freight branch on the S&D analogue-Its only a small beginning-although looking at the electrics up there I fear I may be in for a summer of soldering-much of it whilst lieing on my back withe a torch in my teeth.
Fourthly :-The annual re-stringing is over with-NO WOUNDS AT ALL --this no doubt sounds like a pretty oblique reference-I have a dozen or so stringed instruments and they all require new strings from time to time-normally I only use 4 or 5 which get new wires when they need them,but I like the rest to be ready to play when I want them,so once a year everybody gets a new set-which is something like 80+ strings in total,and to get through that without sticking string ends through my fingertips at least once has induced a strange sense of wildness in me-a sense of euphoria even.......
Oh lordy-not again......
Right-I`m gonna post this,then go sit somewhere quiet for a bit,then start trying to compose responses to everybody-stay with it guys
Please note :-I have a load of responses here-about 2 A4 sides in fact
Good evening Leon,really slooow day today,oh well those that care were in so all in all not to bad of a day.I think just a Keith's tonight thanks.
Pete-yes the bar should be flush with cash after the movies done,we can then move on to bigger and better things.Glad you liked the PCC cars. It's hard to say if any of the Eurpoean or Egyptian ones are still running,a possibility I suppose.Great shots from San Fran thank's for posting them.
Nick-Wow no lacerations and no fatalties on the model pike,all in all a good day. By teh way sent a few email goodies your way,hope your a Simpson's fan
80 strings to your skills. This is why I always played woodwinds a tune up was anew reed every other week or so
Tom-Some interesting old mag covers,interesting that the one from 1916 refered to Christmas as Xmas,I always figured that that was a much newer slang,you see one always learns something here everyday
Another encore tonight this one from page 295 of the old thread. One of my favourite ones.
Enjoy
CLASSIC JUICE # 26 THE GREAT GORGE ROUTE Niagara Falls Parks & River Railway As with many municipalities in Canada and the United States Niagara Falls On & Ny owe theirherritage to railways, few will actually admit this or celebrate it now however.An irony for sure is that one of Canda'a shortest lived Railways has had the most written about ( books , videos ) and thanks to the Niagara Parks Commission plaques for every scenic bit of it's line.This line is of coarse the Niagara falls great Gorge Route. Like most things about Niagara Falls, there is an American and a Canadian side of it.The Great Gorge Route was no different in this.The Candian side was built first,incorporated in 1891 by E.B. Oesler of Toronto and R.B. Angus( CPR Angus Shops Fame ) of Montreal. Operations started up in 1893 and it was electrified right from the get go ( no supprise there given the location ). Within the first two years it had carried half a million passengers in a single car ! Ferries from Buffalo landed at the Slater dock just south of Chippewa Ontario,from there the trolley cars met the passengers and bounced along the brink of the gorge to Queenston, where a spur carried them into town or up the escarpment to the Brock Monument and the Battle of Queenston Heights National Park.At Queenston passengers could board a steamer for a trip out the Niagara River and on into Toronto.This route gave the passengers an amazing view of the Horseshoe falls, the American Falls and the Rapids. The Americans didn't want to be left out of this tourism tour de force so in 1899 they built a mirror line on the American side of the Gorge,running from Lewiston NY to Niagara Falls Ny.Around the same time the Queenston-Lewiston Brige was being completed and quickly both side completed the belt line accross the bridge linking the two Gorge routes. In 1915, the worst accident on a Candian radial line occured at Queenston.As a badley overcrowded car of Sunday Picnickers,began down the steeply inclined line from Brock's Monument Park, the motorman tried to sand the rails in front of the car to help with the braking.To his shock and horror someone had forgotten to fill the cars sander. With no traction the car went out of control and jumped the tracks into the Niagara River, Fifteen passengers were killed about 100 injured ( car was built for 80 passengers ),luckily the companies steamer Chippawa was at the dock and it moved out into the river to recue the drenched passengers, otherwise many more may have been killed. Once the auto age hit, it devistated the Gorge route business ( Niagara Parkway was built above the ROW ). Between 1928-1932 the ridership plunged and the 1932 season was the Canadian sides last.The US side ran until 1935 when a massive landslide occurred and took out 200 feet of track and overhead.The repair cost out weighed the possible returns of pasengers so this line too was shut down. Thus ended the era of being able to ride along the Niagara Gorge and enjoy the view from open air streetcars. Rob
Tuesday, following a very abysmal Monday here in mid-continent USA . . . both outside ‘n in . . . light mix of snow, sleet 'n rain right now with temps just above freezing (F) . . .
Coffee ‘n pastries are ready as are the <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts for those of you interested in jump starting your morning . . .
Monday - Feb 25th: <all times Central standard>
Page 189 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:30 AM: "In" with a ROUND ‘n quarters <what else!> Hope you get some time to review our ENCOREs over the weekend - some good stuff . . .
Petrol was at $2.99 <rounded> when I filled the wagon on Monday . . .
Some more songs for you ‘n the crew: <Q23 - B14 - F31 - H5 - D28 - 5 plays for a quarter!>
I Thought She Was Out Jogging, But She Was Running Around On Me
If the Phone Don't Ring, It's Me Not Calling You Up
All the Gals Who Turn Me On Turn Me Down
If Love were Oil, I'd be a Quart Low
Her Teeth were Stained, but her Heart was Pure
Thanx for the visit and keep in mind that SPRING is less than a month away!
Page 189 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 10:31 AM: I'm hardly that talented to put together such fine drawings of those locos . . . wish I could though. Glad you noticed . . .
Appreciate your visit ‘n support!
Page 189 - Pete (pwolfe) at 4:30 PM: Nice spate of PC cars from your SFran visit!
I too found that RR magazine pricing rather confusing . . . but can't argue with what it says, eh Regarding the "one" appearing a bit colorless . . . probably has been downloaded - uploaded - downloaded so many times that the color became degraded . . . just my guess.
Appreciate your attentiveness to the Posts . . . with so few bellying up to the bar these days, makes me wonder . . .
Thanx for the visit ‘n chat!
Page 189 - Nick (nickinwestwales) at 7:51 PM: And soooooooooo, what's your POINT Just don't leap - Mate -don't do it! <grin>
Do you recall the routine that the late Victor Borge did with his inflationary language by taking any word or syllable that sounds like a number, and add one to it. Where Lieutenant becomes Lieu-eleven-ant - and wonderful becomes two-der-ful - then "once upon a time" becomes "thice upon . . . ." - can have lots of fun with this, but only after a couple of JDs on the rocks! <yikes> Fivegive me, I'm getting a pain in my fivehead!
Check out this link for a laff or three . . .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=517639&in_page_id=1770
Responding . . .
One: Glad your friend is back with the band . . . shocked
Two: Don't understand the game - but I KNOW it's a ruff ‘n tuff "game" <yikes>
Three: S.O.B. or S&D - what's in a name <acronym> The idea is to run ‘em if you got ‘em . . . ‘n you did! [
Four: Not sure
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
And good morning to you Ruth! Hmm, I think I would like Blackberry Pancakes this beautiful morning. Spiked OJ and black coffee, please. Oh, I'll have one of those big Cheese Danish too, thank you!
Back again after having a hard time early, early this morning. Tried to post but it just didn't work. Hopefully it will work now.
Tom – I must admit I am not following how the Coyotes are doing this season. I kind of lost all interest in icehockey. Nice magazine covers! #4 made me think of the time I applied for a job as brakeman 1994. SP needed people. I passed the tests and was offered a position but said no after reviewing the work hours with no planned days off. SP’s ad. CM3 – Gas here is $2.79. The narrow gauge line in Trondheim was closed 1988 and reopened 1990 and is still in service. I don’t know what happened to the car (#3) in my picture. Hopefully it has been preserved. Rob – I rode the old car (#10) but not the PCC. Thanks for the article on Niagara Falls Park & River Railway! Very interesting. I found a map of it. See this link:http://www.niagarafrontier.com/image/GGgorgeroutemap.jpgPete – Did you go to the BR event at Rainhill? I have not been able to find any info on Trondheim car #3. Nick – I’ll remember to order yesterday’s soup March1. I am glad they realized that there could be some bad misunderstandings ordering today’s soup the day before it become yesterday’s soup. Congratulations to you no wounds at all re-stringing of your instruments!
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. I know, Awk, we are running late today, but work called first thing this a.m. Anyway, here we are.
Pete stopped by. PCC cars still run in Boston. In fact, IIRC, several of them were recently overhauled.
Nick - Restringing is not for the fainthearted. Glad to hear that you rr is getting back into operation.
Rob visited with a nostalgic rerun.
Eric - The second paragraph in the SP ad sounds like some of our job descriptions, especially the part about the hours, etc.
OSP sent along some fine magazine covers. Being some into graphics, it was interesting to see the evolution of cover design and cover art over the years.
Here's a little snapshot of railroading back almost 60 years ago. - source is front matter in ORG.
"New locomotives installed in 1949 totaled 1,865 of which 1,808 were Diesel and 57 were steam. In 1948 there were 1,487 put in service, of which 1,397 were Diesel, 86 steam, and 4 electric."
"New freight cars put into service in 1949 totaled 84,669 compared with 102,737 installed in 1948. Class I railroads and railroad-owned and controlled private refrigerator lines have put nearly 300,000 new freight cars in service in the past four years."
"Of the total number installed in 1949, there were 15,482 box cars, which included 15,132 plain and ventilated and 350 automobile cars; 6,043 refrigerator, 18,048 gondola; 41,614 hopper which included 4,645 covered hoppers; 500 stock; 1,706 flat, and 1,276 miscellaneous."
"Class I railroads entered 1950 with 14,368 new freight cars on order....Of the total number on order, 11,256 will be built in railroad shops and 3,112 in outside shops."
Good day Tom and all at the bar. A round of drinks on me. Sorry to be late on "Events", but I hope this will provide some unthought of information. 1939 was heating up with the war just around the corner. I don't need to go into details about the war, but from a history point-of-view, the way wars are fought today are so very different from 50 years ago. The new weapons are mind boggling and the prospect of unmanned aerial vehicles(UAV's) will save many American lives in future wars. All the branches of the U.S. military are actively persuing unmanned vehicles, the air force being the first to embrase this technology. Originally developed as a recon device, it's role has been expanded to a weapons platform.
Events of 1939
Unknown date events
Early UAV's:
de Havilland Queen Bee (1930s)
Check out the following site for an interesting story of the PRR Aerotrain. http://www.joesherlock.com/nwsltr24.html
A brief history of the ballpoint pen
László Bíró, a Hungarian newspaper editor, was frustrated by the amount of time that he wasted in filling up fountain pens and cleaning up smudged pages, and the sharp tip of his fountain pen often tore his pages of newsprint. Bíró had noticed that the type of ink used in newspaper printing dried quickly, leaving the paper dry and smudge free. He decided to create a pen using the same type of ink. Since, when tried, this viscous ink would not flow into a regular fountain pen nib, Bíró, with the help of his brother George, a chemist, began to work on designing new types of pens. Bíró fitted this pen with a tiny ball in its tip that was free to turn in a socket. As the pen moved along the paper, the ball rotated, picking up ink from the ink cartridge and leaving it on the paper. Bíró filed a British patent on 15 June 1938.
Earlier pens leaked or clogged due to improper viscosity of the ink and depended on gravity to deliver the ink to the ball. Depending on gravity caused difficulties with the flow and required that the pen be held nearly vertically. The Biro pen both pressurized the ink column and used capillary action for ink delivery, solving the flow problems.
In 1940 the Bíró brothers and a friend, Juan Jorge Meyne, moved to Argentina fleeing Nazi Germany and on June 10, filed another patent, and formed Bíró Pens of Argentina. The pen was sold in Argentina under the Birome brand (portmanteau of Bíró and Meyne), which is how ballpoint pens are still known in that country. László was known in Argentina as Ladislao José Bíró. This new design was licensed by the British, who produced ball point pens for RAF aircrew as the Biro, who found they worked much better than fountain pens at high altitude.
Eversharp, a maker of mechanical pencils teamed up with Eberhard-Faber in May 1945 to license the design for sales in the United States. At about the same time a U.S. businessman saw a Biro pen in a store in Buenos Aires. He purchased several samples and returned to the U.S. to found the Reynolds International Pen Company, producing the Biro design without license as the Reynolds Rocket. He managed to beat Eversharp to market in late 1945; the first ballpoint pens went on sale at Gimbels department store in New York City on 29 October 1945 for US$12.50 each. This pen was widely known as the rocket in the U.S. into the late 1950s.
Courtesy or Wikipedia.
G'day Lads!
Well, it's not really that "good" - but we're trying to maintain a positive "spin" - after all, this IS the year of "Politics 'R Us'! <barf>
Been more light snow than anything else right now - winds are blowin' briskly - estimate 40 knots - nothing sticking because of the wetness 'n winds . . . Juneau is lovin' it!
Having major problems with a device that enables me to access the internet through my wireless network - can't use my laptop right now - which is where 99% of my material is stored that I put up at the bar. Been "cutting 'n pasting" from the laptop to a storage disk to the desktop - all takes more time than I'd like to be spending.
Anyway, figured that while I'm banging away at the keyboard, I'd at least get a few acknowledgments out of the way . . .
Tuesday - Feb 26th: <all times Central standard>
Page 189 - Eric <EricX2000) at 9:19 AM: Your Emails have been received - thanx!
Good to see you made it "in" - never quite know what the 'puter Gremlins have in store for us either with our 'puters or getting to the bar. So exciting, eh
Really enjoyed that SP ad - wonder how many in these times would even respond to it given the "requirements" and pay Then again, maybe I'd be surprised . . .
Many thanx for not forgetting us as we suffer through week #2 of the Doldrums During Daylite! <D3>
Page 189 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 11:59 AM: Noontime appearance from our Resident WVA Connection . . . Walks #1 'n #2 this day with Juneau were wet, wet, wet - glad I'm not 'working' in it - however, with nearly 3 miles logged of treking 'round the mean streets of Chesterfield - well, I'm feeling O-L-D 'n C-O-L-D! Never have figured out why it always feel colder on rainy days with the temps just aroud freezing (F) as opposed to not bothering me when its REALLY cold 'n snowing! Hmmmmmmmm.
Sorry, must be experiencing a <senior moment> but I didn't follow your rundown of 'stats' . . .
Glad you made it "in' with the day's offering of quarters for Herr Wurlitzer 'n of course the ROUND!
Page 189 - Ron (DD1) at 12:13 PM: Our irregular part-time customer from Mississippi dropped off quite a bit of material ranging from the events of 1939 to everything 'n more about the ball point pen.
Hope you're able to take the time to go back through these Pages to pick up on comments directed your way from the guys who've made mention of your efforts. <with so few contributing lately, there aren't that many Pages to go thru . . . >
ROUND appreciated!
Catch y'all later!
Now Arriving on Track #2
Heralds of Fallen Passenger Railroads - #1
(1) Newfoundland Railway (NFLD)
(2) Vermont Railway (VTR)
(3) London, Midland & Scottish Railway Company (LMS)
(4) Western Pacific Railroad (WP)
(5) Wabash Railroad (WAB)
(6) Seaboard Railroad (SAL)
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Leap Februarys need Winter Olympics.
Rob, the Great Gorge ride was just about the last fun William McKinley ever had. He got shot the same day.
http://ublib.buffalo.edu/libraries/exhibits/panam/law/mckinley/mckinleytrolley.html
Nick, do you fret about string break?
Pete, cool juxtaposition, PCC car under Starbucks sign.
Eric, do Santa Fe brakemen work outdoors in Phoenix in the summer?
Allan, I've been meaning to say, thank you for many instances of courtesy.
Ron, what about the 1939 New York World's Fair, did your folks take you to see it?
CM3, glad you caught the billboard for Bond's bread. I remember it too.
West Side Line
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http://home.att.net/~iii2/rrpix/11-48thx.jpg
http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/02886u.jpg
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A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
NICK Glad your pal Tony is OK.
A good locomotive for the first run on your re-opened S&D layout, the 3F 0-6-0 ‘Jinty'. Looking through an old book I see seven of the class was delivered new to the S&D in 1929, it would be interesting to know if they wore the Prussian Blue livery. By 1958 it seems only one of the seven was still on S&D metals, with No 47316 still allocated to Bath (Green Park) shed, Bath's sub-sheds were at Radstock and Highbridge East. The shed were under Western Region control by then.
Yes a good win by England against the French, Great push over try in the last minutes scrummaging at its best.
ROB Glad you liked the photos of the San Francisco PCC cars. We were parked near the terminus of the cars but it took the bride a bit of convincing that it was far better to wait for a streetcar than catch the bus back after we had gone downtown on the cable car.
Cable Cars in San Francisco.
Turning a car
Many thanks for the Niagara Falls Parks & River Railway Classic Juice Encore. That was a lot of passengers carried in the first two years with just a single car as well.
It was lucky the Chippawa was there after that bad accident. With those marvelous views I am sure if the railway has survived it would be a great tourist attraction today.
ERIC Many thanks for the link to the picture map of the Niagara Railway it certainly was scenic.
Yes I went to the Rainhill 150 event. They had the replicas of the engines that took part in the original Rainhill Trials. My camera at I had at the time played up (what's new) but my friend I was with had a set of his copied for me. I have not come across them yet but when I do I will post a few of the locomotives that were not at the Shildon cavalcade, if memory serves there were more diesels at the Rocket 150.
CM3 It is good to hear about the overhaul of the PCC cars in Boston, they should be around for a good while.
Thanks for the new locomotives and cars put into service in 1949, I guess most of the steam locomotives were destined to have a short life.
RON Many thanks for the Events of 1939; it is interesting to see the advance of diesel power on the railroads. There is a CP ‘Royal Hudson' in the museum at ExpoRail I believe.
Interesting reading about Laszlo Biro and his invention. I wonder when the BIC Company got involved in their manufacture.
Have you still got the Reynolds Rocket. I guess $ 12.50 was a fair bit of money in 1945.
TOM Those songs are well worth a quarter to hear.
Thanks for the comments on the PCC car photos. The setting sun was just in the right place to reflect on the cars as they turned to the terminus.
Enjoyed those Leap year cards in the link. I see ‘The Trap' from 1908 would probably work 100 years later.
Many thanks for the Fallen Passenger Heralds new series. The LMS one got me thinking, I guess the rose in the bottom left represents England and the thistle in the right Scotland, I wonder if the symbol at the top represents the LMS interests in Wales and Northern Ireland.
Sorry you are having
Hi Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the crew please!
Pete. A very nice selection of San Francisco PCC cars and SF Cable car pics, thanks mate. You are so right about dialects, it was great being in the army and meeting so many people from the different parts of the UK and colonies, and being able to learn the subtle variations of the language, it stood me in good stead throughout the years. Your area had a distinct dialect, especially from around the Brum area. Great to see England put one over "Le Cockerals" again like in the World Cup, I think Ashton is doing quite a good job with the team, if he took over at the "Toon" they MIGHT WIN!
Rob. It`s the same here as far as punishment goes, all they get is a slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket, or a fine that they do`nt attempt to pay up, they wrack up thousands of dollars of fines that have to be eventually written off and then they have to do Periodic Detention work to make up for it! Enjoyed your write up of Classic Juice #26 about the Great Gorge Route.
Eric. Nice pics of the trolley, the Great Gorge map link, and that cutting of the SP vacancy ad was very interesting. Hope you will get a chance to see "Whale Rider" I`m sure you will enjoy it a lot.
CM3. Was in with some very interesting 1949 RR equipment numbers, what a waste of all those new steam loco`s with only a very short lifespan to go.
Nick. I agree, it was great to see England win that French game especially after their remarks when they lost to England in the World Cup, to win at the "Stade" put the icing on the cake!
Ron. Nice to see you in again with a very interesting list of events in 1939, the UAV info with links, and the history of the Biro ballpoint pen.
Mike. Thanks for those kind words of yours. Interesting link to President McKinleys trip through the Great Gorge, and the old NY set of pics were great viewing and those links as well.
Tom. A nice choice of flicks for the weekend, enjoyed your nice selection of Classic RR magazine covers #7 and that link to the humerous old Leap Year cards, plus the link to that Victor Borge story, we were lucky enough to see him in his show in Wellington a few years ago, he was hilarious with his phonetics,, and well worth the drive down and the overnight stay, very sad he has gone now. The Fallen Flags heralds were very interesting with your inclusion of the LMS one that Pete commented on. Sounds as if you are getting a bit of your favourite SNOW at the moment.
Good evening Leon , cold wet and snowy here tonight sitting at -4C and dropping heading down to the high teens in minus -17 they are saying will be the low end . It's a crown royal and coffee nightSpeaking of which Leon that should be good
Eric-Thanks for the clip up of the Gorger route map. I saw one of those at a train show a couple years ago,they are selling for two or three hundred CDN Interesting clip ad for that job on the SP,seems a bit stringent on the requiremenst for a Brakeman,gone are the days when it's a family job though I suppose.
Tom-Wow the more I see you guys having wireless issues I'm glad that I didn't go for it when we switched to the high speed. My sister has all sorts of log in problems with their wireless as well,glad that you made it in at any rate It is a bit odd that most of the regular irregulars have abandonned ship lately I'm chalking it up to the leap year,I'm looking for a turn around March 1st
Some mighty fine fallen flags in that post as well nice touch on this slooooow cold day.
Pete-You as well, wirless routers One question did you understand the help desk techie , most are sooo far oversea's it's not funny.Great shots of the little san Fran cable cars, truly going back in time there,I read once that the newest one's were originally built in the 1890's.Another interesting trivia bit is the brake pads.We had one of the shop guys that works on them visit the museum a couple summers ago,and those cars have odd sized brake pads which are made from hardwood of all things ! They have people that make them in their shops all they do is turn brake pads on lathes all day long.
The Niagara escarpment is a beautifull country even more so in the river gorge. Make a trip up here and we'll take you down to see it. You are right had the line survied I'm sure that it still would be massively popular tourist attraction The electric people mover buses that trundle up and down the parkway just don't cut it.
Ron-Great 1939 events and extras sir. Lots of neat stuff between the aircraft links and the actual railroad info. Even a bonus pen exposee.Dioes anyone know if any of the FT demo train survived to see a museum somewhere
CM3-Some intersing stuff in your 1949 equipment rundown as well.Pete's right alot of those steam engines recorded in those stats didn't see barely a decades service.Where more interestingly some of those frieght casr could still be around ( many rebuilds and repairs later mind you )
Allan-Good evening again sir,yup were lucky if any young offenders covered under the youth justice act up here ( useless offenders act the police call it )many see no worse a punishement than what would twenty lashes with a wet noodle would be Glad you liekd the great gorge route right up
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, some meatloaf and mashed potatoes would be great! Tui, please!
I just bumped into Rob, never saw you when I got here! I guess you are more or less snowed in up there so far north!
CM3 – I guess you can find that text (or very similar) in many job descriptions. The main reason I didn’t accept the position I was offered was being on call 24/7 and never know when I would get my next day off. Ron – Good to see you again! Interesting this about UAV’s. Many of those used in Irac are flown from here in Arizona! A number of important dates for diesel locomotives happened 1939! And UAV’s already 1939!?! Interesting! Also the story about the ball pen is interesting!Tom – Everything worked fine this morning and tonight! But you are right, one never knows!2nd slow week? I’ll stick around. Looking at the American and Canadian drumheads I wonder if UK railways ever used any drumheads? I can’t recall I have ever seen any. Maybe Pete, DL or Nick know?Mike – Yes, BNSF (and UP) brakemen work outdoors year around in Phoenix. Very interesting pictures from yesteryear! A lot of details to study! The links to Shorpy did not work though. "Page could not be found".Pete – Nice photos of the cable cars! I have similar ones from the same place. Hmm, it seems like you and cameras never got along very well, do you? Looking forward to see the photos from Rainhill 150 whenever you find them! It seems like you have plenty of that white stuff on the ground in your neighborhood! No fun at all. We are in the high 70’s /low 80’s this week. Allan – I’ll make sure I’ll see the Whale Rider some time soon. Rob – The job as a brakeman would bring you to the point when you had to qualify as a conductor (or lose your job) and after a certain time as a conductor you had to qualify as an engineer (or lose your job). In a way I regret I didn’t accept that job, but it is too late now.
Just to keep Tom (and Juneau) happy! Snow on the ground in the old country! The locomotive is the Swedish State Railways Class F, 4-6-2 from 1914.
I'll just tip toe into the corner here and hope no one has noticed my absence...
Good Morning Captain Tom and Company
I'll have have the Mariner's special please and thanks and I'll buy whatever anyone's heart desires! Might as well roll out a keg of the good stuff and top everyone's flagan!
Anyway yes i realize my absence has been a tad long, where does the time go when you're painting and decorating... and only 2/3rds complete!
Enough already!! As promised more photos for everyone
Picked up these babies at Maritime Hobbies yesterday as they just came in on Monday. Yhey are the newest offerings from True Line Trains.
As promised here are a couple of Pics from the Gorham Rail Exhibit in New Hampshire of the Central Vermont 0-6-0.
Rob is correct in saying the Niagara Escartment is a beautful place especially for Train Watching. Ian Wilson's books on CN operation in Southern Ontario has a few excellent photo's showing this.
Tom!: Guess waht I saw at the CN Station in Halifax yesterday... 2 Via Engines pulling your good old fashioned Pullman's and dome cars!!! Not a Rennanonesense to be seen or heard.
Anyway more work to be done around the housr this AM.
Later All
Fergie
PS Mike thank you for the "Old Time Pics" as they were very timely as I'm working on a project that requires detailing.
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Wednesday's Witticism
On the range, a man's home is apt to be his saddle blanket ‘n the first thing you know, he's moved it to Texas.
Mid-week in mid-continent ‘n the final Wednesday in February! My, my - how time flies, eh Aroma of freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee along with those still warm pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case gives this place some long needed ambiance! <uh oh> No, no Boris - that's not a call for the EMS people! <geesh>
Check out our Menu Board for an order of a <light> or <traditional> breakfast while you're at it!
Page 189 - Mike <wanswheel> at 4:45 PM: We KNEW the man could "do it," an almost inclusive Post - but appreciate seeing the acknowledgment of others.
Lots of RR history in those fotos . . .
Now for the sorry part - <tweeeeeeeeet> <tweeeeeeeet> Rules Violation! Rules Violation! Rule #53 - Excessive foto Posting on a day other than Saturday; "rule of six" applies! Penalty: Clean Awk's bird cage for this week ‘n next!
Walks: Average daily mileage accrued on walks with Juneau comes out to 4.5 miles per day - every day; weather conditions notwithstanding. Three "long walks" ‘n two "shorties" . . . he gets to select the routes. Huskies are ‘that way.'
Apprecitate the visit, chat, EFFORT ‘n ROUND!
Page 189 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:57 PM: Fine looking SFran cable cars!
After a couple of hours speaking with three different "tech reps," they finally decided that my wireless card adaptor wasn't working! <arrrrrggggghhhhh> But, they honored the 3-year warranty (due to expire in April) ‘n a replacement is on the way. D-Link isn't bad stuff, just the nightmare of trying to get a fluent English speaking person on the line . . . Expect the lap top to be back in wireless mode early next week. So ‘til then, these ‘n other submissions get prepared ‘n sent on the desk top <shared with the bride . . . guess who has priority >
Figured you'd pick up on the Brit herald . . . thanx for the elaboration ‘n sorry I can't provide amplifying info. Perhaps when we see Dan again, he'll pick up on it . . .
Luv the UP in the snow!
Yeah, the leap year link is a "gud un," glad you enjoyed it!
Many thanx for the < I3 > Post, fotos, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 189- Allan <Gunneral> at 8:04 PM: Figured there had to be at least ONE guy out there who remembered Victor Borge! Just think, the guy made a career as a humorist ‘n accomplished pianist ‘n kept it all CLEAN! Perish the thought that today's comedians would or could do the same . . . I too saw him perform in person - once - at the old Winter Garden in Manhattan. Glad you enjoyed the inflationary language! <grin>
Snow Just teasing us - temps are "right," but the stuff just doesn't stick ‘n the winds are keeping it off the places where Juneau likes to romp! <frown> Ahhhhhhhhhh, but spring is in the air - or is it
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