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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:09 PM

Happy B-Day [bday] G'day Celebrants! Happy B-Day [bday]

Reminds me just a tad of "back in the day" when we had all kinds of conversations going on in "somewhat real time." Nice to see again . . . Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Dan has been at the bar for three visits and on a Saturday at that! WHEN in the world have we EVER seen that 'round here, ehQuestion [?]

The Larsman is in fine form 'n with us once again. Sure makes our party even more special! Yeah!! [yeah] Not to worry 'bout our Manager up in Ontario. He's either being "pecked" or had to go in - or is ill. Anyway, figured that if he could, he'd give me a call to let me know what's going on. Day ain't over, yet! Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete provided a nice mix of fotos. Always did like the NYC Central steamer - looks even bettterER in the snow! Right, Eric Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Oh yeah, for some reason I missed that fine RPO you put up for Moi - thanx, Eric! Yes, they fall into my FAY-VOR-ITE-Ssssss too. <grin>

I hear the music being blared out in the tent . . . Nick's group  has the "nite watch" in the Pool Room - where else, eh Question [?] <grin> We've managed to put together quite a security force - to protect US from THEM! <yikes> Only kidding, Nick . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:46 PM

Happy B-Day [bday]Happy B-Day [bday]Happy B-Day [bday]

Hi Tom and all.

Great to see the band has started up TOMThumbs Up [tup] and Nick's RIPTIDE  laterApprove [^], but sad to see that HELGA has taken this as the cue to put the ‘3' costume back onShock [:O]Big Smile [:D]. Yes I need another Holden's now please CINDYThumbs Up [tup].

It seems the covers are back when I just looked LARSThumbs Up [tup] yes I can't remember when we last had 5 people on at once at the barWow!! [wow]Approve [^].

TOM Wow!! [wow]Such a good time at the bar Thumbs Up [tup]the time is going as fast as when we are at the TrainWreck SaloonYeah!! [yeah]

Some more photos.

ROB.

CM3

ALLAN

NICK

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Well 'home alone' today so I had better fix some grub, back later.

 

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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:16 PM

Hello again and Happy Anniversary again!!!Happy B-Day [bday]

Cindy, I just learned the food is free! Then I would like my favorite, Rumpsteak Café de Paris, please! And a cold Carlsberg!

Geez, people are running in and out of here all the time! Cindy looks kind of tired and she probably needs help. Maybe Leon could come in early?

Pete –  Thanks for the Carlsberg!Thumbs Up [tup] So Hilda is piloting the ballon?! Hmm, I wonder what Frosty thinks about that. He loves his ballon, it makes it possible for him to fly. Let’s hope for the best. I think Awk will be a nice bird most of the day.

75 ft long? It’s a little bit (10 ft) on the short side but they look shorter in that photo. Thanks for the  headlight answer.Thumbs Up [tup]

Not Waterloo station? Hmm, I’ll give it another try. St. Pancras? No, I just noticed that DL  says it is York and I guess I believe him. And now you confirmed it! Smile [:)]

The brunette? She is waiting in the car!Whistling [:-^]

Thanks for the SJ loco.Thumbs Up [tup] I think that is the same one you had in another picture some time ago and we found out that the two digit number is not what it actually had as a SJ loco. I like the photo, a lot of smoke!Smile [:)]

Tom and locomotive in snow! He is happy and I think it looks very cold! Two UK diesels. I recognize the right one but I don’t remember the class. Where is the photo of the Rio Grande loco taken? Question [?]

Nice photos in the last batch of locomotives and traction.Thumbs Up [tup] Is the CM3 steam loco from the Cog Railway (Pike’s Peak)? Question [?]

Nick’s locomotive is a strange design. The drivers up front. That should give less traction because of less weight resting on them. Maybe the firebox is too wide to allow any drivers?

Tom –  Sorry, but I didn’t saw a dome car when I stopped at Atchison on may way west from our Rendezvous last year. And I am quite sure there hever was any RPO car with a dome!Mischief [:-,]

As I said to Pete, you and the NYC loco in snow, looks very cool, eh... I mean cold. Wink [;)]

DL –  I like stainless steel cars, but maybe a little bit cleaner than the ones in my photos. Wink [;)]

Lars – I don’t understand this. You’re saying the Brit covers are missing? I can still see them all. Your post is still there! I saw them the first time, made a comment about the encyclopedia, and I can still see them. I think Tom is right, Gremlins at work!


Tha last Burlington of today.

Silver Glow.

 

I'll be back later.

Eric

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:49 PM

Happy B-Day [bday] G'day Celebrants! [b'day]

Because we're now on Page 11, I MUST show the fine work that Eric provided us over on the previous Page . . . this stuff was made JUST FOR US on this OUR SPECIAL DAY!

Be sure to ENLARGE these:

If you've an eye for detail, you'll quickly pick up on all of his most clever, innovative 'n talented handiwork! Wow!! [wow] Many thanx <again> to our Resident Desert RETIRED Swede - somehow "looks" a bit different in daylite, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

"Bachelor" Pete is preparing chow for himself 'n Maggie <aka: THE dog!> Don't overdo it Mate, we've a galley full right here AND the best part is you don't get that "stuffed" feeling, no matter how much you pack away! Wow!! [wow]

Many thanx for your 2nd spate of fotos 'n to both of you for the continuing chat on this, our day of interactive CEL-A-BRAY-SHUN at the cyber bar we call "Our" Place! Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow] Yeah!! [yeah]

Gotta get back to some semblance of "normalcy" - so I'll do one more day lite "check" then secure it for the day . . .

Oh yeah, Juneau found a girlfriend . . .

   

Later! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, April 12, 2008 3:26 PM
Happy B-Day [bday] HAPPY Happy B-Day [bday] 3rd Happy B-Day [bday] Year Happy B-Day [bday] Anniversary Happy B-Day [bday] to Happy B-Day [bday] "Our" Place! Happy B-Day [bday] 

 

Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bAH!

Cindy, one more for me, then I gotta seriously start thinking about the <gloom> things I need to attend too . . . wud dearly luv to stick 'round for the evening's festitivies. But, real life is beckoning . . . <sad>

Certainly think we had a grand time of it at the old watering hole by the wayside! Surely appreciate all who answered the bell . . . still wudda liked to have seen the full crew. Yeah, I know there are mattAHs that have to be attend to . . . but <geesh> it ain't like it's a supreme sacrifice to drop something off on this special time. Then again, I should talk! <groan>

Eric, my first Post did lose the text and photos - I reposted it. Maybe I screwed it up AFTER it was put up . . . don't know. But it DID disappear. Not all, just the text 'n photos! Can't figure it out. Really like that "stuff" you made for the bar. First class all the way, mate! Next time you're in on a week nite - have a round 'n meal on the Larsman! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Pete, somehow I can't "see" you in the kitchen. But, then again, I'm no one to talk! <grin> Great work from you on this day! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Yeah, you can have a meal 'n round too! Wouldn't want to listen to a grown man cry! <grin>

Dan, just an all 'round great Saturday with you as our "surprise" customAH! Surely made up for those we thought would be here. Really helped out alot! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Don't know what the bill o' fare is in Sherwood Forest - but whatever it is, put it on my tab! Yeah!! [yeah]

And last but not least, thanks to Nick across the pond 'n Allan in that "upside down world" for coming through for us best as you could!

There's a fine crew about these decks and even I must say that in spite of the noticeable daytime absences - you all "done gud!" Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow] Yeah!! [yeah] <right on!>

Best to all who attend Cap'n Tom's 3rd Annual Rendezvous next month. Also, hope your trip up to Canada goes well. Any rail trips involved with that one Question [?] If not, why NOT Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Ruth said she'd drive me home . . . so before I meet her out in the parking lot, I'll drop off this finale from the Larsman Mobile. CovAHs I hope all will find of interest!

 

from Page 115 - 23 Sep 2007 - "Our" Place 2 . . .

Northern Pacific - Diesel Era - 1945-1970

New York Central's Lightweight Passenger Cars, Trains & Travel

The Gulf, Mobile & Ohio - The Railroad That Had to Expand or Expire

Great Northern in Color - Vol 1 - Lines West

The Florida Keys Overseas Railway

Chessie The Railroad Kitten

 

Don't know when I'll be returning, but you KNOW I'll be thinking of "Our" Place 'n the fun that goes on here. Yeah!! [yeah]

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:13 PM

Hi Tom and all.Happy B-Day [bday]Happy B-Day [bday]Happy B-Day [bday]

Time for a Holden's Golden Glow please Cindy.Thumbs Up [tup]

ERIC I think FROSTBITE is letting HILDA go along in his balloon as she is jealous of HELGA's costume..

Yes it was the same photo of the SJ locomotive I posted a while ago. I am pretty sure I have a photo of a SJ tank locomotive in blue livery on the Nene Valley Railway but I can't find it.Sigh [sigh] I bet it will turn up when I am looking for something else.

The BR diesels are a class 20 on the left and a class 37 on the right; it was taken on the preserved Great Central Railway at Loughbourough. The Rio Grande was taken at the Colorado Railway Museum as was the #1 loco, unfortunately I don't have details of the locomotives thereAshamed [*^_^*] but I think you are right and #1 was from Pike's Peak.

For some reason the 0-4-4 tank locomotive design was quite popular for a time in the UK then a few railways used the 0-6-2T design. I guess it would have something to do with a wide firebox; it would be interesting to know for sure.

Good photo of the Silver GlowApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup] and don't keep the brunette waiting too longSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

LARS Certainly like the old times with you aboard the barApprove [^], thanks for the kind wordsThumbs Up [tup], I guess a pay rise would be out of the questionWhistling [:-^].

Great set of Book coversThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup], you can almost feel the cold in the Northern Pacific railway great painting,Bow [bow] and the book on the Florida Keys Overseas Railway, a fascinating line I had not heard of until reading about it at Our PlaceYeah!! [yeah] and the Chessy kittenApprove [^]. Many thanksThumbs Up [tup].

Have a good trip home with RUTHSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg] and I shall look forward to your visit when you can call at the bar.

TOM Great idea to show Eric's great handiwork againApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup] the bar could not have had a better start for its 3rdHappy B-Day [bday]Bow [bow]

I wish your warning had come a bit earlierSigh [sigh] as yes I have eaten too muchSad [:(] and it involved plenty of chips and mushy peasShock [:O]. I hope it wears off as I was thinking of a visit to Pat's laterSmile [:)]

A great day of celebration at the bar indeed 5XThumbs Up [tup] and JUNEAU looks very happy with his new friend.Approve [^]

What's that you say CINDYQuestion [?] "The ink as run out on the machine that prints my bar tab"Approve [^], in that case another round please.Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, April 12, 2008 5:07 PM

Happy B-Day [bday] G'day Gents! [/bday]

Well all good things must come to an end . . . . so the daylite portion of today's Gala is over for Moi. There's a couple of more hours left 'round these parts before sunset, but I've spent enough time staring at the 'puter screen . . . . gotta give it a break.

So, let me echo the sentiments of our Senior Manager <Emeritus> Lars by offering a huge THANX to those who took the time 'n made the effort to enter our premises duirng the daylite hours! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] And to those who are in far different time zones, your participation is equally appreciated! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

I'm very impressed with the participation 'n eagerness of our small but active crew. Makes for some nice thoughts. I'll save the "sobering reality" for another day. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Want to say to Lars, we'll miss you very much 'n it was grrrrrrrreat having you aboard. Brought back some good vibes from not that long ago. Nice having someone "watching my back," as has been said. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Ruth driving Lars home Question [?] Hmmmmmm.

 

The Manager's Bar

 

Not wanting to sound like a broken record, very impressed with the efforts from Eric 'n Pete! Of course the "hands down" winner for this day are those fine graphics put together by our Resident Desert RETIRED Swede! Don't know how you did them, but they are outstanding in all respects. Yeah!! [yeah] And to Pete, you've come thru in the clutch, Mate 'n your fotos 'n chat have added to this all 'round great day at the bar! Yeah!! [yeah] Also THANX for the visit to "my other Thread!"

Pay raise Question [?] Not a chance! <uh oh> And not to worry - in spite of the ink running out of the printing MoSheen, we have a back-up on the hard drive. So your "tab" is well documented. Drink up! <KaChing> <KaChing>

To Nick 'n Allan 'n Dan, you three have also added immensely to the success of our day, especially our Resident Brit in Sherwood Forest! <grin> Thanx to all! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] We're looking forward to the concert tonite from Nick 'n his crew <especially the gals!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

* * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *

Allan, the RR BOOK RELAY 2007-08 arrived today. Was mailed from NZ on 31 Mar . . . I haven't had a chance to go through the "reports," but they appear to be in tact.  Many thanx to ALL who participated! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Emporium Theatre listings tomorrow . . .

Enjoy the remainder of this Anniversary Bash, 'n see y'all later! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, April 12, 2008 5:17 PM

Good afternoon Captain Tom and all present!!! Happy Anniversary again!!Happy B-Day [bday]

Cindy, the same drink you gave me this morning, please!

A very nice day is almost gone! The party is going wild back in the tent!Smile [:)]

Tom –  It must be a busy day for you!Wow!! [wow] You better slow down and take Juneau out for a walk (or maybe a swim, is it still raining?). Glad you liked the “pictures”, just wish I had started on them earlier. Smile [:)]

Juneau met a girlfriend!? Straight from the woods in Alaska? The Gray Lady!

Thanks for the very nice words!Thumbs Up [tup] It has been a gret day and we just started on the 4th year! Smile [:)]

Lars –  Oh, there you are! (and Cindy).Wink [;)] Glad you could rework your post! Sometimes the strangest things happen. Glad you liked the 3rd Anniversary stuff. It is fun to put something together. But I started too late. Thanks, I’ll remember the free meal!Smile [:)]

Very interesting books!Thumbs Up [tup] I guess the two top ones are for Tom (snow). I’ll go for Great Northern!

Pete –  Thanks for the info on the locomotives! The Rio Grande engine looks very nice in that livery! I’ll see if I can find out anything about the 0-4-4T and 0-6-2T locomotives.

Now I better go, the brunette is waiting. Whistling [:-^]


MARC F9 #83 (former Burlington Northern) used to haul the cars I have shown earlier today.

 

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:17 PM

Your Proprietorship and Sirs, congratulations, thank you, and Happy Anniverary to Our Place

I see Eric's cool artwork. Neat!

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:25 PM

Hey Guys -just back from one show and ready to throw a couple of steaks on the barbie before we kick into gear ready with the next one-(and try a small refreshment whilst I`m here....)-just to warn you we start off in 3rd gear with U2`s `I will follow`and get rapidly louder from there so -my advice is -drink heavily in order to soften the blow as it were---As the notice in our friendly local guitar peddlers puts it-in case of emergency,please spend quickly.....-Right gonna go check out what I`ve missed, back in a bit----Leon -if that C note has died an honourable death,here is it`s best buddy ,come to serve the flag -drink up boys,if there is anything alcoholic left in the building by the morning we will have to declare the night null & void and start all over again...............

soon

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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:31 PM

Hi Tom and all.

Time for a Holden's Special please LEON.Approve [^]

Well the music from the tent is sounding goodThumbs Up [tup] and the track gang is looking in good form to continue the festivities.Yeah!! [yeah]

TOM Had a really good time at the 3rd Happy B-Day [bday].of Our PlaceApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Many thanks for the kind words Thumbs Up [tup]but it was your hard work that kept it togetherThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]. I think my bar tab on the hard drive will slow the tills down a bit.Shock [:O]Thumbs Up [tup]

ERIC It will be interesting if you can find something out about the 0-6-2 and the 0-4-4 tank locomotives.Thumbs Up [tup]

Great photo to finish your great day's activitiesThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup], a F9.Approve [^]

I see MIKE has called in the barThumbs Up [tup] and NICK has arrived and RIPTIDE have started their setYeah!! [yeah].

Yes the C-Note's existance was short but gloriousApprove [^] when the track gang hears it has a buddy there will be quite a stampedeShock [:O] but nothing LEON can't handle.Thumbs Up [tup]

Well I had better make sure the bar is still stocked before while I canYeah!! [yeah], the beer as gone down rather well this day.Oops [oops].Then watch and listen to RiptideYeah!! [yeah]

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:07 PM

Right back again,for those of you who havnt yet sampled the fare ,there is more good grub on offer than you could shake a big stick at-I won`t spend valuable time enumerating specific dishes but take it as read that you won`t get a better feed anywhere in the 3 kingdoms (Wales,Canada & the good old U.S of A )on this fine day...we also do take outs for those with a slower digestive system......

O.K-  General--Yes -I do have more recent pix of H/w station(from the same viewpoint-the footbridge,but will be better another time..)--also-spam-I keep getting adverts for genital enhancement ( the delicate phrase)-what I want to know is how did they Know I need it ?????????-all very worrying...

Allan-Have never tried a glass of Tui,but now seems like the perfect moment-Heres to it and the devil take the hindmost-good health my friend !!!

PETE-Not only the mushy peas but battenburg cake and more or less anything with an artificial additive is on the line-the `nanny state` government has cleverly avoided targeting crack cocaine,Afghan heroin and semi-automatic weapons as causes of social unrest and blames it all on brightly coloured food-how simple when you look at it that way...Whistling [:-^]

ERIC-Big thank you for the stuff on Pantographs-much of it fairly self evident when I stop to think about it but needed pointing out-as to the more technical stuff-would never have worked it out (electicity is a foreign tongue to me I`m afraid) good one mate-thank you !!-..And as to that marvellous cut and paste-words fail me---a finer job could not have been done.......5xThumbs Up [tup]

DL-Hey there my man-How the devil are you ?--as you well know ,the trick with function catering ( and indeed any cooking) is ..Do the prep well in advance-hence my loitering about the premises in the early hours,when preparing buffets for 150 people single handed,I rarely sleep until the job is done and all the punters depart as smiley happy people (and I have the cash on the hip-but not tonight,this one is a freebie Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg])

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-What can I say mate....Looks like tonight is a vote of confidence in your little enterprise-Who would have thought,all those months ago that we would all still be here and having fun,swapping stories,exchanging interesting and valuable info and generally having such a good time ..?....At risk of sounding all sad and sycophantic--Full marks to you for keeping this sometimes leaky old tub afloat with your genuine enthusiasm,hospitality and general joie de vivre--I`m sure I speak for all when I suggest we raise our glasses in a toast to CAPTAIN TOM-The main man--on a personal level,I have learned more than I could have ever wished for,have enjoyed the company of folks I would never otherwise have met and hopefully ,been able to share some of the little I know with folk who are genuinely interested in my often drunken ramblings.......May I take this opportunity (sp) to thank you on behalf of us all for making this possible--Good job done there mate !!!!!!

LARS-By ***-it`s good to see you mate-Hope all is going as well as can be expected....a fine spread of covers there-that roundhouse shot looks to be somewhere in the North-east-( they look like N.E.R 0-8-0`s) and a lovely cover shot of the S.E.C.R `P` class-is that Bluebell or Primrose on the Bluebell railway ..? 

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Posted by Gunneral on Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:40 PM

Hi Tom and all,

Leon, let`s keep the party going with another round of Tui`s please.Happy B-Day [bday]Yeah!! [yeah]Yeah!! [yeah]Yeah!! [yeah]

To all. Have had a HECK of a time getting the page to load over here today, tried this morning, Sunday here, but it got very frustrating so have come back on after lunch and managed to get in finally!Banged Head [banghead]

Pete. Many thanks for all those geat pics on your posts, the Brit station looked like Newcastle Central to me with the curved platforms, nice shot of my favourite A4 loco and all the others too.Approve [^] Must say that Doggy convienience was a big laugh, only Richard Branson would have come up with something like that.Approve [^] I was hoping to get on the page to have contact with you at the same time, all the activity on site must have affected my atempts somehow!Sad [:(] The Toon managed a draw with Pompey this time, at least they did`nt loose!Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric. That was some really nice artwork you did for our 3rd year celebrations.Wow!! [wow] Keep your fingers crossed for me, hopefully I might make it over the Mohaka Bridge next year. Enjoyed all of your pics, Harpers Ferry, the white caboose, the passenger car etc. Looks as if we both have the same hearing problem at the right times`.Wink [;)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Dan. Small world, I was stationed at the AA Artillery Camp at Tonfanau near Towyn in 1953 doing my AA training and got to ride on the Tallylyn Rly in it`s infancy after they restored it in the early 50`s.Sigh [sigh] The area around Lynmouth and Exmoor is a very beautiful place, glad that they are reopening the L&B as much as the can.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars. Great to see you in so many times with all those nice covAHS from the Larsman Mobile, even a cover with a pic my old local North Eastern loco shed too, nice set of pics of the California Zephyr and really enjoyed all your usual repartee and good humour, wonder if that page problem you had was related to the problem I was having this morning?Confused [%-)] Anyway, it`s been nice having you back on deck again, just like old times`, thats for sure!Big Smile [:D]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike. Nice to see you in for the celebrations mate. Some nice old NY city pics tooCool [8D]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick. See you just beat me in with the 1st greetings for our 3rd anniversary on Saturday, seeing we are 12hrs ahead of GMT here you must have been really burning that midnight oil!Wink [;)] Hope you did`nt get too tired out with your weekend gigs`?Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Rob. Where are you mate? Hope everythings OK with you?Confused [%-)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3. Am keeping some Tui`s cold for you.Wink [;)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom. What a great party you`ve got going on here, lots of drinks, abundant food and really great company to top it all, and all credit to you for getting "Our" Place up and running in the first place. Bow [bow] Tried to get in on the act this morning but was thwarted by the page loading problem again!Banged Head [banghead] A "buttie" is a nickname for a sandwich in the North of England ie: chip buttie, bacon buttie etc, Pete also calls them "sarnies", just depends on which slang is used in different areas`.Wink [;)] Really enjoyed all the banter thats been going on in the pages`, and all the cameraderie as well, some very nice pics of "Our" Place and our all important BAR too, just shows what a FUN place this is to be a part of with all you guys`.Bow [bow] Glad to see Pete`s relay book arrived at your place safe and sound, it only took 6 days to reach me when Eric sent it, 12 days is a long time going by that reckoning.Confused [%-)]Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:07 PM

Right- back with the next bit-didn`t want to get lost in the post so I thought I would break it up a bit

ERIC-rather like that white caboose-but then i am a fan of the O.N.R who used to run with silver cabs (music link-"shes got the silver" by the Stones....)-nice work of those Budd cars BTW Approve [^]

DL-Forgot to mention earlier -Tom Rolts `Tal-y-Lyn Adventure` is pretty much required reading-no idea which part of the combined volume it features in but well worth a look-One of the few books I have stayed up all night to read ( the only others are Lord of the Rings & the Ghormenghast Trilogy )-have a pic of The Tom Rolt Engine at Abergonolwyn with me standing next to it that I will post at a more appropriate time.............

LARS-More fine pix-Have been having fun putting captions into those wonderful pix-I wont expand as this is a public forum..........................

PETE-Is it me or does that S.J look like an austerity 2-8-0 ???

TOM-I tell you what mate,after last night,we NEED some security-the guvnor up there is a decent enough fella but by the end of the night he was getting a bit close to the bone R.E Missisnick-I know she is a brilliant singer and a bit of a honey into the bargain but...well,luckily we were able to leave without any ill -feeling...he may be a big old boy but a Fender Telecaster wrapped round the head does a lot to inhibit the libido............

PETE-LOVELY pic of the Metropolitan #1-Looks very close to an L.S.W.R Drummond M7-a graceful and overlooked design in my opinion Approve [^]

LARS-Grown man cry-a convenient link to the second part of the show-Live from the Zeppelin field-RIPTIDE-Our second half always starts with `Start me up`-using the open G tuned guitar ,and the chorus is....You make a grown man cry (x3) and on the last verse the rather more  risque ` you make a dead man come` ....(`My eyes dilate,my lips go green ,my hands are greasy,she`s a mean,mean machine....................)..start me up baby -oh yeah

Apologies chaps-too much time on the road--but was a real honey there tonight-imagine a pair of puppies squirming around  in a lacy black sack.............I`ll leave it with you...

O.K-I suspect thats my contribution to the night-looks like the creatures have the galley under control so I can go and muster the troops up at the field---

This would be a good point to go get some more food from the buffet to line the stomachs for the almost inevitable all-nighter--BTW-the Mentor Rickshaw company are providing a free shuttle service between home base and the showground and also have the home addresses of all major participants in order to facilitate a safe delivery home ( I`d love to see how they are gonna do that for me !!!!!   )

Right guys-its the the long and winding road for me-have enjoyed your company hugely-am off to pursue my destiny as a rock star ( HO HO HO ) enjoy the night -be lucky -this one`s for TOM-speak soon

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Posted by EricX2000 on Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:31 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and all partygoers!! For the last time, Happy Anniversary!!!

Leon, you are still able to stand up? Wow! The usual, please. What usual? How the heck would I know. I'll take whatever you have! Pronto!!

This party is still going strong! Unbelievable to see all the people in the tent! What a day!

Mike –  Welcome to the party!! Very interesting pictures!Thumbs Up [tup] Besides the tracks and trains I found something that most likely will interest our Manager, the H&H Restaurant!! I didn’t know that Hilma and Helga have a restaurant in New York City!  Check the second picture from the top, the corner on the left side has a sign that reads H&H Restaurant! Checking the other pictures I found that it is the Beer & Draught Lunch Bar! Are they trying to push Our Place, the Tavern by the Siding out of business? Hmmm. Their restaurant seems to be by the main track, not by a siding. Something for management to look into.Mischief [:-,]

Nick –  Glad that you are taking over the kitchen now.Yeah!! [yeah] Sometimes I order something but that is not what I get. Could it be those mushy peas?Sigh [sigh]

To be honest, I don’t think a caboose should be plain white. But it is. Smile [:)]

Pete –  I tried to find info about those tank locomotives but had no luck. I found the locos but nowhere any info about the reason for the design.Sigh [sigh]

Allan –  Sorry to hear you had trouble logging on. We had and still have a hell of a party going on here!Wow!! [wow] Back in the tent it is extremely noisy.Headphones [{(-_-)}] So I guess you and I with bad hearing should be able to go there and hear some music! I meant, listen to...Mischief [:-,]

I’ll keep my fingers crossed until you have crossed that bridge in a train.Wink [;)]

Yeah, you are right, sometimes it is convenient to have bad hearing. No, I never said that.Evil [}:)]

Glad you liked the artwork. 

 

My final picture this Saturday is from the old country showing a yard in 1959. Note the small, old box cars.

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:36 AM

 

G'day Gents!

Yes, it is Sunday ‘n we are CLOSED - but it is also the MORNING AFTERn time to offer up some thoughts regarding our 3rd Year Anniversary of "Our" Place . . .

Boris, pour me one of those "spiked" OJs, willya Question [?] Careful - you seem to be a bit on the unsteady side. Hmmmmmm <grin> . . .

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There were so many Posts during our Anniversary Bash yesterday - so many that I will simply let them "speak" for themselves . . . . here then is a listing of those who made the "Our" Place 3rd Year Anniversary party such a resounding success. Kudos to all who made it "in" during the daylite . . . made it even MORE special. Five Thumbs Up [tup] to YOU! Yeah!! [yeah]

Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Another Five Thumbs Up [tup] to ALL who contributed in the spirit of the day - irrespective of the hour! Yeah!! [yeah]

Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

AND best wishes to Mrs. TrolleyMAN for a full 'n speedy recovery! "Core" has been sent an Email from our MIA Manager . . . Dead [xx(]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Saturday - April 12th: <all times Central daylite>:

Daylite celebrants, in order of revelry <following my AM summary>:

Paqe 10 - Dan <DL-UK> at 8:48 AM <2:48 PM GMT>

Lars <LoveDomes> at 9:11 AM

Tom <siberianmo> at 9:38 AM

Pete <pwolfe> at 10:27 AM

Eric <EricX2000> at 10:41 AM

Tom <siberianmo> at 10:55 AM

Page 11 - Eric <EricX2000> at 11:14 AM

Tom <siberianmo> at 11:21 AM

Eric <EricX2000> at 11:42 AM

Lars <LoveDomes> at 11:42 AM

Eric <EricX2000> at 11:55 AM

Pete <pwolfe> at 11:59 AM

Tom <siberianmo> at 12:03 PM

Dan <DL-UK> at 12:11 PM <6:11 PM GMT>

Lars <LoveDomes> at 12:18 PM

Pete <pwolfe> at 12:40 PM

Tom <siberianmo> at 1:09 PM

Pete <pwolfe> at 1:46 PM

Eric <EricX2000> at 2:16 PM

Tom <siberianmo> at 2:49 PM

Lars <LoveDomes> at 3:26 PM

Pete <pwolfe> at 4:13 PM

Tom <siberianmo> at 5:07 PM

Eric <EricX2000> at 5:17 PM

Sunset celebrants

Page 11 - Mike <wanswheel> at 7:17 PM

Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:25 PM

Page 12 - Pete <pwolfe> at 7:31 PM

Nitetime celebrants

Page 12 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 9:07 PM <3:07 AM Sunday GMT>

Allan <Gunneral> at 9:40 PM <4:40 PM Sunday NZ time>

Nick <nickinwestwales> at 10:07 PM <4:07 AM GMT>

Sunday, April 13th <all times Central daylite>

Page 12 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:41 AM

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:15 AM
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs  

 

 

Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

 

 

. . . April 13th thru 19th: Sea Change <2007> Starring: Tom Selleck, Nigel Bennett & Kathy Baker - and - ENCORE Presentation of A League of Their Own <1992> Starring: Tom Hanks, Geena Davis, Madonna, Lori Petty & Jon Lovitz. SHORT: The Three Stooges - G.I. Wanna Home <1946>.

<Note: A League of Their Own first shown on Sunday, June 18th thru 24th, 2006>

 

Sea Change <2007>

PLOT SUMMARY:

Jesse Stone: Sea Change is the fourth in the series of films starring Selleck as Jesse Stone, the former Los Angeles homicide detective who has been fired from the LAPD, left his wife and comes to Paradise, Massachusetts, to start life over again as the New England town's police chief. Co-starring William Devane (TV's Knot's Landing), Kathy Baker (Edward Scissorhands) and Sean Young (Blade Runner), this installment finds Chief Stone (Selleck) bored with what he perceives as his mundane life, struggling to keep his drinking and his obsession with beautiful women under control. Stone's restlessness gets the best of him and he re-opens a 12-year-old cold file involving the murder of a bank teller. The inquiry reveals fresh clues and Stone soon finds himself busier than ever as the unsolved case leads to another centered around an alleged rape aboard a yacht during the town's annual Race Week.

<from: amazon.com>

 

A League of Their Own <1992>

PLOT SUMMARY:

Penny Marshall's popular 1992 comedy sheds light on a little-known chapter of American sports history with its story of a struggling team in the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League. The league was formed when the recruiting of soldiers during World War II resulted in a shortage of men's baseball teams. The AAGPBL continued after the war (until 1954), and Marshall's movie depicts the league in full swing, beginning when a savvy baseball scout (Jon Lovitz) finds a pair of promising new players in small-town Oregonian sisters (Geena Davis, Lori Petty). The sisters are signed to play for the Rockford Peaches near Chicago, whose new manager (Tom Hanks) is a former home-run king who wrecked his career with alcoholism. They're all a bunch of underdogs, and Marshall (with a witty script by Lowell Ganz and Babaloo Mandel) does a fine job of establishing a colorful team of supporting players including Madonna and (in her movie debut) Rosie O'Donnell. It's a conventional Hollywood sports story (Marshall's never been one to take dramatic risks), but the stellar cast is delightful, and the movie's filled with memorable moments, witty dialogue, and agreeable sentiment. And just remember: there's no crying in baseball! --Jeff Shannon  

<from: amazon.com>

 

SHORT: The Three Stooges - G.I. Wanna Home <1946>

PLOT SUMMARY:

The Stooges return home from the war, only to find their girlfriends dispossessed. They find no vacancies and turn a backyard into a home until a tractor plows over it. The Stooges are finally married and make a one room apartment their home.

<from: threestooges.net>

 

Enjoy the weekend! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom
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Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:23 PM

Hello gents justa  quick stop in to check teh damage from yesterday's shindig or was it a hootnanny? Yes Boris it was probably both I hear that we got noise complaints from the second class oh well screw emBig Smile [:D]Indeed a belated Happy B-Day [bday] bash wish from me you all done us proud yesterday 10xThumbs Up [tup] Indeed all hands were on deck,and went far above and beyond our wildest expectations Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanks to everyone for their well wishes via the off net emails all were read and treasured by both of us Thumbs Up [tup] and yes Heather is well on her way to being on the mend ( justa  forgettable weekend in that reguard )

 Again thank-you everyone for your well wishes as I said in the email I was with you guys in spirit and shall see everyone all week long Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by EricX2000 on Monday, April 14, 2008 12:55 AM

Hmm, just push it down through the slot. Ahh, there it went!

This place survived the festivities yesterday and last night! But the tent... Well, it was the last 3rd anniversary at this place so who cares?  

Tom –  A very nice celebration! I am impressed!Yeah!! [yeah] Even Juneau behaved very well!Wow!! [wow] Probably because of his new girlfriend. I hope you got some rest today and no rain!Smile [:)]

Two good movies this week at the Emporium! Sea Change and A League of Their Own. I haven’t seen any of them so I am looking forward to an interesting evening! Smile [:)]

Rob –  Too bad you couldn’t attend, but it certainly was more important to take care of your bride!Smile [:)] Family goes first, always!Yeah!! [yeah] Hope she will have a rapid recovery!

I don’t think there was that much damage to the bar. But I saw the tent was a complete disaster.Oops [oops] Just drag it to the landfill. I really don’t know what happened and I probably wouldn't like to know. Maybe Nick knows?



 

I will probably not be able to stop by tonight, but I certainly will be back Tuesday.

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 14, 2008 6:32 AM

<personal foto>

A smile to begin the week!

Upon being paid by check for a radio stint, he looked at the "Pay to Bearer," and said, "You've known me all this time and still can't spell my name!"

<A Yogi-ism!>

G'day Gents!

Here we go again, another Monday ‘n off to work "they" go <not Moi!> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Freshly ground'n brewed coffee is ready - pastries have been loaded into The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts are yours to order! Thumbs Up [tup]

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A splendid Saturday was had by all of our celebrants, revelers ‘n participants! Beating that drum <again> - warmest THANX to Eric, Pete, Lars ‘n Dan for the multiple daylite Posts! Just what we needed for an infusion of fun ‘round here. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Then Nick ‘n Allan brought up the front ‘n rear with their multiple offerings. Just a grand time from the guys who make this place "go"! Kudos, Gents - Kudos! The bottomless punch bowl is yours to submerge in! <uh oh> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

It remains to be seen just what this 4th year will bring . . . but if that was our last hurrah, it was a "gudun"! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

One month from today, the guys arrive for Rendezvous III! Yeah!! [yeah]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Sunday - April 13th: <all times Central daylite>:

Page 12 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:23 PM: A visible sign that our Manager is baaaaaaack!

Not quite "all hands," but certainly a respectable batting average for the Saloon by the Siding in these times! Thumbs Up [tup]

We'll be looking for Grandpa's fotos ‘n of course chat from our Resident Ontario Connection! Yeah!! [yeah]

Monday - April 14th: <all times Central daylite>:

Page 12 - Eric <EricX2000>: Didn't take you long to get back into the late, late <early, early> mode, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Last I saw of the tent, Hilga ‘n Helga were delightfully cutting pieces of it - calling it a "pattern" for their "new" outfits. <yikes> Boris jumped in 'n said he needed "sheets" for his shed . . . . <uh oh>

Supposed to be seeing a warm-up ‘n back to spring in these parts - rains are gone <so is are the snow-flurries> . . . should be a nice week, after we get through this chilly start-up. Yeah!! [yeah]

Nice looking caboose! Yeah!! [yeah]

Appreciate the visit! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by DL - UK on Monday, April 14, 2008 6:54 AM

Hello Tom and all in

Is the place open again - is it is in a fit state to open? Looks like it - I'll just take some pastries if I can, and a coffee please.

Glad I could make it in - I'd spotted the celebratory date in one of Tom's posts not so long ago and put it in my diary - then I had by chance, to spend all day Saturday on the ‘puter doing some chores (correspondence etc) - so that enabled me to get in and out of Our Place on such a special day. Thanks for your remarks in any case Tom.

Pete - didn't recognise that class 20 shot as being at the GCR - On Sunday I was driving down near Quorn and had a chance to go down to Swithland reservoir to take in the water from the roadway that edges round the reservoir at the far end from where the GCR runs across it. There are some interesting old pumping station buildings and staff accommodation down behind the dam at the end of the reservoir which can be seen from the narrow (dead end) lane that runs across the top of the dam.

Eric - as Tom says nice artwork - I liked that 1959 freight yard shot - nice colour tones in the pic too.

Mike - what was the location of these great B&W images on anniversary day?

Allan - interesting to read your comments about being on the Tallylyn in '53 - that must have been their 2 or 3rd season - you must have some stories to tell of that.  As Nick suggests Tom Rolt's book about that project, written in about 1953 or 54 is superb (I read it a few months back) - if you've not read it I really recommend it - I see old paperback copies are available on line from about 50 pence (less than a quarter of a pint of beer in international currency)

Put: Author ‘Rolt' and title ‘Railway Adventure' into this specialist second hand book website and you get plenty of choice - if they will mail to NZ I don't think you will be disappointed. I don't have my own copy or I would post it out to you as a loan - I was leant the one I read by a mate at work.

  http://www.abebooks.co.uk/

As Nick says ‘required reading' - but I think if you were actually there you'd love it!

Nick - I've not been to the Tallylyn but having read the book I'm keen to try and take it in some time.

All the best

DL

 

 

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 14, 2008 9:04 AM

G'day Gents! 

Time for a Monday morning submission designed to capture the attention of all those out there who enjoy what we do here . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Now Arriving on Track #1

Back in the Day - Number Eighteen

Railway Express Agency <REA>

 

The Railway Express Agency was a rail express service, and at one time, the only one in the United States. Originally the American Railway Express Company, its name was changed in 1929.

The Railway Express Agency came into being when the USRA, United States Railroad Administration (1917-1920), nationalized the express businesses of Adams Express Company, American Express Company, Southern Express Company (a subsidiary of Adams Express), and Wells Fargo and Company Express (see History of Wells Fargo; today's Wells Fargo bank was spun off in 1905) into the American Railway Express in 1917. Adams Express, American Express, and Wells Fargo Express each owned one-third of American Railway Express until they sold it to the railroads, who changed its name to Railway Express Agency.

The Railway Express Agency was the cargo company of choice in its days. The REA had an arrangement with the railroads that they moved the cars and provided terminal space at their expense. The REA paid its own expenses and divided the profit among the railroads in proportion to the traffic.

"REA had to take everything including hazardous material and Class A, B & C explosives. It was saddled with a lot of undesirable traffic that truck lines would not handle, such as auto mufflers & tailpipes, ladders, rugs, etc. REA handled carloads of cattle, race horses, and trainloads of fruits and vegetables. Carloads of radioactive material were moved on regular schedules for the Atomic Energy Commission. There was practically nothing that was not handled at one time or another including circus animals.

Many people of a certain age remember Railway Express as the best or even only practical means to move their trunks to college, bicycles to vacation homes, and other bulky items.

Due to rate increases, express revenues remained at profitable levels into the 1950s. However, after World War II, express volume decreased substantially.

In 1959, REA negotiated a new contract allowing it to use any mode of transportation. It also acquired truck rights to allow continued service after passenger trains were discontinued. It unsuccessfully tried piggyback and container operations.

REA was sold to five of its officers and renamed REA Express in 1969, after several years of deficits. By then its entire business constituted less than 10% of all intercity parcel traffic and only 10% of its business moved by rail.

REA sued the railroads and the United Parcel Service for various reasons and became involved in suits and countersuits with the clerks' union, and the Civil Aeronautics Board terminated REA's exclusive agreement with the airlines for air express. REA Express terminated operations in November 1975 and began liquidation. This was complicated by trials of some of its officers for fraud and embezzlement.

It filed for bankruptcy in 1975.

<from: Wikipedia.com>

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<models>

Railway Express Agency refrigerator car #6687, a converted World War II "troop sleeper." Note the square panels along the sides that cover the former window openings. <Authorized use by: www.trainweb.com>

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

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#1 Pullman Company . . . . Page 102

#2 The Singing Brakeman . . . Page 103

#3 The Chiefs of the Santa Fe . . . Page 116

#4 The TurboTrain - Part I . . . Page 126

#5 The Turbo Train - Part II . . . Page 126

#6 The Train of Tomorrow . . . Page 133

#7 The Wabash Railroad . . . Page 140

#8 The Broadway Ltd of the PRR . . . Page 148

#9 The NYC 20th Century Ltd . . . Page 163

#10 The Baltimore & Ohio's Capitol Ltd . . . Page 167

#11 - Kansas City Southern's Southern Belle . . .  Page 169

#12 - Great Northern's Empire Builder . . . Page 181

#13 -Canadian Railroad Trilogy . . . Page 187

#14 - The Original California Zephyr . . . Page  194

The following is on this Thread:

#15 -The North Coast Limited . . . Page 2

#16 - Illinois Central City of New Orleans . . . Page 6

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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, April 14, 2008 9:13 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Belated anniversary greetings to all!  Winter is back as we are having snain today - not only that, gas jumped to $2.45 (up another 6 cents for no reason).   Watched two brutally played baseball games yesterday; Cubs-Phillies and an execrable performance by the Olde Towne Team and the Yankees.  Bedtime comes early on work nights and they were barely into the 4th inning. 

B&O tonnage rating project continues.  The scary thing is that it turned into 10 pages of data - more than we have space to cover, and also more than anyone ever would want to know.  OTOH, I found material relating to a variety of 1st generation and early 2nd generation diesels.  My plan is to hit a couple of areas on the railroad and review the numbers for those sections.  I think you will be quite surprised when you see the impact of the railroad's profile on what can be done. 

There was certainly a lot to read and go through. 

Lars visited several times - good to hear from you.  Well, there goes my tax rebate!  Saw lots of books that I want to add to the collection.  My compliments on a fine selection of CZ publicity pictures; especially the last one of the CZ at Gate 24 in Chicago. 

DL was in with comments and observations

Eric - Inspired picture of the "Our Place" building.  Many folks have never seen it in daylight.  I noticed OSP over in the corner.  Good job!  I enjoyed the pictures you sent along as well.  MARC engine is, IIRC, on the top level at Washington, DC - on the B&O side, which makes sense considering where they run.  I have some pictures of B&O trains over there which I will try and remember to bring to the Rendezvous.

Pete - One vote for Denver as the station location in your picture.,  Also like the K9 Kooler - somewhat similar to what we have on the back porch.  Allan was by.  You are right, P Company is a nickname for the Pennsylvania RR.

Mike was in with comments and pictures of the NYC high line.  IIRC, it is being turned into a "high level" park.  I always thought it would make for a unique model layout, especially for the structure folks out there. 

Rob - Hope you have the shiny side up again.

Last but not least - "Three locomotives and a tiger" to OSP who keeps this place going.  E-mail rec'd and thank you.  Interesting choice of films.  "League of Their Own" is one of my favorites.   I wondered what all of the REA cars were doing on the M&S NG siding this a.m - now I ahve it figured out - recycling all the mt bottles, cases, containers, etc.   Incidentally, Atlas made some beautiul Railway Express cars in N scale years ago.  Have more than a few of them for head end service. 

Again, happy anniversary!  I hope this thing posts as ther seems to be all sorts of gremmies out in the ether this morning!

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 14, 2008 1:05 PM

fG'day Gents!

Two visitors on this Monday AFTER . . . Dan <DL-UK> with what surely appeared to be a "normal" Post Thumbs Up [tup] - and - CM3 Shane from the hills of WVA with another of his "normal" Posts! Can't beat that, eh Question [?] Good to see you both . . . comments in my next round of acknowledgments . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Another reworked presentation from the Passenger Train Nostalgia archives . . .

 

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #5

<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 133 of the Original Thread, 10 Oct 2005>

Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this poster out regarding the Canadian Pacific from 1886

 


A Red Letter DAY

For - Canada

June 28, ‘86
 

WHEN THE

CANADIAN PACIFIC Railway

OPENS to the PACIFIC OCEAN

 



TRAIN LEAVES DAILY:
Toronto, - - - - - - 5.00 p.m.
Montreal - - - - - - 8.00 "
Ottawa, - - - - - - 11.45 " 
except Sunday

 

 

OUR OWN LINE

FROM THE ATLANTIC to the PACIFIC

NO CUSTOMS - NO DELAYS - NO TRANSFERS -

LOW RATES - QUICK TIME

 






for further particulars apply to any Agent of the Company, or to
W. D. HUGHES, Traveling Passenger Agent
W. R. CALLAWAY, District Passenger Agent 
110 King Street, West, Toronto

W. C. VAN HORNE, Vice President
GEO. OLDS, Cust. Traffic Manager
D. McNICOLL, General Pass. Agent 
MONTREAL

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<Note: official flag from1868 to 1921>

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, April 14, 2008 1:53 PM

Hi Tom and all.

Thanks BORIS for hiding the barrel of Batham's for meThumbs Up [tup] so I'll have a pint now please RUTH and if anyone wants to join meThumbs Up [tup]

I see things are getting back to normal (as it ever isWhistling [:-^]) at Our Place. I see it look two locomotives on the Can-Am to haul away the empties in boxcarsShock [:O] and there is very little liquid stock left after the great 3rd Anniversary bash. So it looks like the poor old chandler will have to put some overtime in to re stock the barSigh [sigh]. If you listen carefully you can still hear Riptide echoing in the Can-Am gorgeWow!! [wow]Big Smile [:D].

NICK I think you summed up the mushy peas situation very wellThumbs Up [tup].

Very good wordsApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup] and I'll certainly join you in a toast toCaptain [4:-)] TOMYeah!! [yeah].

Yes the SJ loco in the photo was the same as the BR WD class locos when it was built. That particular engine was first in Holland and then when to Sweden where it was modified with a better cab and a smaller tender. It was in the Swedish strategic reserve when it was offered for sale and was bought for work on the Keighly & Worth Valley Railway. In the photo I think it was in the condition it was bought in and still had the snow ploughs fitted and required very little work to be able to steam again. The loco has recently returned to steam and it has been put in the exact condition of the ex WD locos that were in BR stock complete with 8-wheeled tender.

Glad you enjoyed the photo of the Metropolitan 0-4-4TThumbs Up [tup]. The Metropolitan also had a small class of 4-4-4 side tanks built by Kerr Stuart in 1920. These were acquired by the LNER after it took over Met workings north of Aylsbury in the late 1930s I don't know when they were withdrawn but I think it must have been the early 1950s  

ALLAN Sorry to hear you had problems getting to the siteSad [:(], but glad you were able to get it to workThumbs Up [tup]. I had problems with my word processor on the Friday night and I though I was going to be in trouble with it SaturdayShock [:O] but luckily it was OK on the dayThumbs Up [tup].

Really glad you enjoyed the 3rd anniversary bashThumbs Up [tup]. I have heard the word butty used to describe a friend in my area, I often wonder if it came from the canal folk, as the un-powered barge that was the same length and was towed by a powered barge was called a Butty boat.

Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup]. The station was York, like Newcastle having a curved roofApprove [^], they must have done some work on it as it looks real clean which is goodThumbs Up [tup] but I have to say, I wish it was still being stained by the LNER steam classes like the A1, A3 and A4 etcSmile [:)]

So your favorite A4 was No9 Union of South AfricaThumbs Up [tup], I have heard it was one of the best ‘Streaks' and it was a regular on the non -stop Elizabethan' express, I believe it hauled the last steam hauled southbound Elizabethan. I bet you are glad it was one of the 6 A4s savedApprove [^], I would have like to have seen one of the Scottish based LMS Duchesses saved but they were the first ones withdrawn and were quickly scrapped,Sad [:(] and to think if Billy Butlin had not wanted two for display at his holiday camps there would have been only one Duchess saved and it would have been highly unlikely if we would have seen one on the main line again,as City of Birmingham has always been a museum exhibit but she is in immaculate condition with the original Crewe works paint finish.Thumbs Up [tup]

A draw at Pompey is not a bad resultThumbs Up [tup]. My team Shrewsbury Town had there first win in 20 games yesterday (I got up at 6AM to listen to themShock [:O]) but it should see us safe from relegation Thumbs Up [tup]and it looks like it has doomed our arch rivals, Wrexham, who we played, to life in the Conference next season.Oops [oops]Smile [:)]

ERIC Where do you get the stamina from, still going strong at 1 30AMBow [bow] I had long since found a quiet corner to lay my head, it is a secret place which is just as well as I had heard Helga was looking for me.Shock [:O]Smile [:)]

I noticed that H&H restaurant in Mike's photo too, surely they are not setting up in opposition.Shock [:O]

I have found another odd Metropolitan wheel arrangement, a class of 4-4-4 tank engines; there are a few more details in my reply to Nick

In the photo of the old boxcars it shows just how much bigger the loading gauge was in Sweden compared to the UK, by the width of the cars body compared to the wheel spacing.

We done real well for damage after the bash with only the tent being a write offYeah!! [yeah],the only other slight damage was the strain on the tills but that is a good thingThumbs Up [tup].

ROB Thanks for the kind words on theHappy B-Day [bday] anniversaryThumbs Up [tup] yes it was great fun at the bashYeah!! [yeah].

Real Glad Heather is well on the way to feeling betterThumbs Up [tup].

DL Reading about the pumping house at Swithland Reservoir reminded me about an old pumping station in Leicester I believe it is Abbey St. It may be a museum now, I went to an Open day on a Sunday a long while ago now and they had old vehicles and traction engines etc. Have you heard of it.Question [?]

The class 24 photo I posted a while back was on a special I was on that was going to Towyn and I had a ride on the Talylyn RailwayThumbs Up [tup], the date was the early to mid 1970s when British Rail used to run their on ‘MerryMaker excursionsApprove [^]. It was quite a long train and one of the 24s failed and we were hauled back by just the one, up Tallerdig incline as well. I will try to find some photos.Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 I will look forward to your posts on the 1st and 2nd generation dieselThumbs Up [tup].

Yes my quiz was too easy I think everyone got it rightThumbs Up [tup]. It really is a great buildingApprove [^] it looks really good at night from the long street that runs from the entranceBow [bow]. I enjoyed riding the great metro system they have in DenverThumbs Up [tup].

TOM It was indeed a great success and a lot of funApprove [^]. A lot of the credit must go to our proprietorBow [bow] so a 5XThumbs Up [tup] salute to you is in order I feelYeah!! [yeah].  

More good films on at the Emporium this weekApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. I would like to see the series of Jesse Stone filmsYeah!! [yeah]. Sea Change has a good story line. I have seen A League of their Own before but I would like to see it againThumbs Up [tup], and of course the Stooges.Big Smile [:D]

Many thanks for the Back in the Day on the Railway Express Agency with the logos and their adThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. An interesting read and they were made to take all kind of goods, which the truckers did not want to handle, which must have meant specialist cars. It was sad to read that in 1969 only 10% of their traffic went by rail.Sad [:(]

It seems very similar to Britain where the amount of traffic that was a very busy part of the railways like a very big parcel operation, newspapers and a magazines as well as livestock, pigeons etc no longer goes by rail.Thumbs Down [tdn]

That must have been a great day for the Canadian Pacific when it reached the Pacific Ocean from the east coast for the first timeBow [bow]Yeah!! [yeah]. Liked the flag.Approve [^].

It seems I have got carried away a bit RUTHOops [oops] so another pint pleaseThumbs Up [tup].

Pete.

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Monday, April 14, 2008 7:21 PM

Greetings,salutations & indeed,felicitations fellow survivors (warning,florid prose--amber alert....) Leon-lordy mate,you look rough  Black Eye [B)]-could I have a pint of whatevers left and same again for the guys please...

Another week is with us with it`s attendant freight of good & bad-In my case the good being a lovely sunny day-the bad-I spent most of it stuck on a dangerously unstable shed roof (40`x10`,joists of 4"x2" at 6` spacings ) attempting to plug a whole bunch of leaks with a sealant with more than its fair share of amyl acetate or similar as the active ingredient-got a head like a bucket and can`t get rid of the smell despite an hour in the tub.....hey ho..

A fine Bash-from the little I remember..Whistling [:-^]-I may be able to cast a little light on the matter of the damaged marquee--the bands roadcrew purchased a quantity of "stage pyro`s" from a hulking character of suspicious mien wearing a 2nd class saloon T-shirt,sadly they have neglected their studies of oriental languages of late and failed to translate the legend "Property of Imperial Japanese Navy,best before 1945" clearly painted on the casings.....On a related topic-Has anyone seen Simons` guitar-? it`s a 1959 gold Gibson Les Paul with P-90 pick ups-the most distintive feature is that when last seen it still had a rather stunned & scorched looking Simon strapped onto it-if found please advise....thank you Oops [oops]

Right-to business-will fire out a start-the-week 6 pack of pix once I have the post taken care of...

ERIC-nice yard shot from the old country-those vans are attractive little things-look to be about the same capacity as their Brit equivalent (about 10/12 tons ??)-what is the significance of the V sign on the left ?--and a fine gritty caboose shot (in `proper` red Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg])

As to the 0-4-4t wheel arrangement,it was used by a number of pre-grouping companies over here (London & south western,Midland,Caledonian & (I think) Glasgow & south western) as well as a number of Irish companies-will look out a six pix pack for later in the week-As I understand it,all were designed for passenger work -either suburban or branch line,I`m guessing the layout allowed for largeish driving wheels coupled with a good sized firebox permitting fast running with a good supply of steam-perhaps one of the other Brits can expand on this ?..

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-Ah-there you are Sir !!-Last time I saw you was when you joined us on stage at about 4am for a rousing rendition of `Whiskey in the jar` with a litre stein of Keiths in each hand and a selection of H&H`s "delicates" festooning your upper torso-and a suprisingly mellow tenor voice you have too Headphones [{(-_-)}]---Looks like a good week to take in a movie or two Thumbs Up [tup]that header pic is a wonderful looking brute Approve [^]--those B&W line drawings are rather catchy also.....fine piece on the REA,likewise the CPR-nice one !!!---N.B-last time I offered the remark `nice caboose` to a fellow drinker it cost me a tooth and a 2 week ban ( a horrible misunderstanding is my defence.......Whistling [:-^] )

ROB-Glad to hear your better half is on the mend-there has been a similar virus doing the rounds at this end-Thumbs Down [tdn]Disapprove [V]Thumbs Down [tdn]-still-any nation hardy enough to regard tree sap as a delicacy to pour over pancakes should be tough enough to weather a wee bug <joke>-please extend our best wishes to `er indoors Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

DAN-Entirely agree R.E colour tones of pix-as they age they seem to gain `warmth`-am sure there is some simple explanation involving fugitive pigments in photo emulsions or some such but I prefer to think that it was always a warm soft summers day back then..................

R.E the Tal-Y-Lyn-the preservationists ran their first service on Whit monday `51 with `Dolgoch` as the only (barely) functional loco,operating as far as Rhydyronen,where there was (is ?) a short siding where the crew `hand shunted` the train to run around...Wont say more ,for fear of spoiling ALLAN`s pleasure in the read ahead,but is still well worth a visit-the whole thing is now terribly spiffy and up to date-much of the original appeal of `two lines of rust vanishing into the gently waving grass ` is long gone,but all the equipment is in immaculate condition,the staff are friendly and helpful (far more than the Festiniog,it pains me to say) the ride is not so long as to bore partners and children and there are walks and views enough to justify a family day out-and-the clincher for me ( as a fan of the Rev. W) you can get a ride behind `Skarloey`or `Rheneas`,`Sir Handel`or `Peter Sam` Thumbs Up [tup]Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]-childhood dreams come to life-was 9 when I first rode there-( 69 )still had the `overgrown` feel --a treasured memory-we were behind #3 Sir Haydn,riding in the former Corris coach that came with it-and somewhere there is  a Kodak slide or two from the trip-must ask mother to look them out....

PETE-What Ho dear boy !!-glad to see the rickshaw service got you home in good order-my apologies to Laura for the state you were in...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]....opinion is divided as to whether your harmonica solo during `Jambalaya` or the frankly un-nerving Jagger impersonation during `Satisfaction` were the high spots of your evening-for my money your insistence that pouring an entire flask of Wow-Wow sauce into a half pint of Bathams, stirring it with a bread-stick & downing it in one constituted a late night snack raises you to the ranks of the truly exalted.....Thumbs Up [tup]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Thumbs Up [tup].......Bow [bow]....Glad I wasn`t too far off with that S.J-had no idea of the origins-just looked like it...Confused [%-)] .....Gonna have to do some research on 4-4-4`s now ( ya bu**er)-as an initial foray,-I`m sure one of the retro tinplate companies does a fairly generic one (possibly based on an old Bassett-Lowke model or some such ) which includes a Metropolitan example

BTW-as I am sure you realise-The `Town are not a team one mentions lightly this side of the border-especially this week Whistling [:-^]  -although the Swans have got the step up to grown up footie (apparently-I am afraid the ball is the wrong shape for me.......)

Tallerdig bank-Was the curse of the operating dept. in Oswestry during Cambrian Rys days-after the `23 grouping,apparently any unpopular or under-powered engines foisted off by Swindon would be sent off on excursion service`down the bank` on the grounds that they prolly wouldn`t make it back up any time soon and could be put to good use on the coast section 

Right-gonna post this so I dont lose it whilst checking out some pix for you-back in a bit

Chef [C=:-)]

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Monday, April 14, 2008 7:55 PM

O.K then chaps-some pix:-

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Here we have a 4-in-1 from the Tal-Y-Lyn-Top & bottom left-the new engine `Tom Rolt` -I believe to be an Andrew Barclay product,originally bulit for the 3` gauge for the Bord na Mona (Irish turf co.-peat-used as a fuel over there) now on 2`3" track-an 0-4-2 if memory serves-rebuilt at Tywn Pendre works and a fine hauler-please ignore the hairy degenerate posing next to her-my wife married him (mostly out of pity I suspect) Top right we have the grand old lady,Tal-Y-Lyn on a down working and bottom right,Kerr Stuart #4-ex Corris rly in original livery at the bottom stn

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top left-Merseysider-a composite of several diesels-will give specifics later-used on MOW trains-top right-ex Glyn Valley tramway 1st class coach,rescued and rejuvenated-bottom left-the grand old lady again-one of my favourite shots-note the Welsh Dragon flag on the buffer beam-bottom right `Dolgoch`-most likely the engine ALLAN rode behind-in light steam at Pendre works

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Right-here is a then and now of my local station -Haverfordwest-will go into the differences later (when I have recovered from this bout of involuntary solvent abuse.........

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Here we have one of the Festiniog Rly`s original George England 0-4-0 tender tanks on the Welsh Highland line,taking water at Beddgelert sometime in between 1923 & the 2nd war

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And from the other end of the same station-on the left ,an `England` engine is ready to depart for Portmadoc to connect with Festiniog services (note the station mistress in full Welsh costume talking to the driver) whilst Hunslet `Russell`(in cut down,or mutilated condition,arrives with a service frome Dinas Junction-the shadow in the mist in the background is Mt. Snowdon

Would post a colour pic of self,Dolly Parton & Kylie Minogue enjoying a jacuzzi together ,but the rule of six applies.......Whistling [:-^]

take care now guys-speak soon

Chef [C=:-)]

 
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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, April 14, 2008 9:42 PM

Good evening Gents. Leon your still looking a tad shell shocked today.I think i'lls ettle in with a Keith's ( if Tom left anyMischief [:-,] after his flirtatious on stage performance )If no Keith's then I'll settle for a Canadian.

Tom-You are right reading through the debris of the party we did go out well should it be the last bash,I'm thinking that it won't be though,espeacially since H&H are re-tooling the torn tent as a new line of fashion for the "Young and Depraved set"Big Smile [:D]

Quite the twofer from you a Classic CPR post and a fine run down on the REA.Interesting to see how a proud old company ended sad but typicalSad [:(]

I'm glad to see the proper Canadian Flag in that post not Mr Pearsons Underwear as we refer to the current rendition.I also think that the Maple Leaf Forever should be out official antham but I digress.

 So you have to tell us who is Junneau's luckey new friend Question [?]

CM3-Yes the right side of the boat is up thank-you again for your thoughts.Thumbs Up [tup] The info you are planning on digging out on some of the early diesels should prove very interesting Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick-Why are there several crates of what seem to be 16" shells in front of Boris's shedShock [:O]and somehow I don't by his and Leon's story that they are the new "dupont flasher" fishing lureShock [:O]

The mentor Fuslieirs tell me that they found Simone  floating,face up in the mentor river still attempting to pull a tune out of that old gibson. H&H say he will be fine once they have "purged" his system. <uh oh >

 Fancy some maple syrup Question [?]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Thnaks for the well wishes mate,but all seems well today Thumbs Up [tup]We'll chalk it up to a really bad case of montezuma's revenge.Dead [xx(]Great photo's sir a fine kick off to year 4 Thumbs Up [tup]

Glad to see Dan pop by with a normal offering as well hopefully this will be a sign of things to come Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric-Nice cabooseBig Smile [:D] Thanks for your well wishes as well  Thumbs Up [tup] as I said alls well that's well overwith.

Pete-Looks like it's going to be a good day for teh bottle recycling,with teh deposits alone for returning those two carloads we should be able to partially pay for the restocking.I hear the Zep comming so your first load is ready to be counted and put away. Oh Boris.

Rob

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:11 AM

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G'day Gents!

A mugga Joe, a pastry or three to jump start things ‘n a <light> or <traditional> breakfast to round things out - so what's the delay Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Comments from the Proprietor

Really running late this AM . . . took the bride out to dinner <nothing special, just getting my ticket punched - so to speak> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Got home to answer the fone for a "marathon" chat with my friend the Wolfman . . . so the "things" I normally do to prepare these dailies didn't get done . . . So apologies in advance if I don't get to all the comments in proper fashion . . . <groan>

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Monday - April 14th: <all times Central daylite>:

Page 12 - Dan <DL-UK> at 6:54 AM <1:54 PM GMT>: We're open at 6 AM no matter where you are on the globe <don't ask how we do that!> so, no problem, Mate! Glad to see ya so soon after our Saturday Gala! Thumbs Up [tup]

Fortuitous or not, it was terrific to have you with us on a repetitive basis for our 3rd Year Anniversary party . . . goes to show that when opportunity knocks, some take full advantage whereas others don't know what opportunity is! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Good scoop on the Rolt book . . . have to keep his work in mind if ‘n when I ever get going again on my stack o' things to read! <groan>

Appreciate the visit ‘n chat! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Page 12 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:13 AM: Last time I checked, petrol had reached $3.38 <rounded> up at "Collusion Corner." I'll be out ‘n about <ooot ‘n abooot for Rob> today with a long round trip to make, so the tank of "cheap gas" will get me to ‘n from before having to refill. <ugh>

"Three locomotives and a tiger" Question [?] That's a new one on Moi! ‘splain, Mate - ‘splain! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

And remember, "There's no crying in baseball!"

Visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND always welcome! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Page 12 - Pete <pwolfe> at 1:53 PM: And a good day with a couple of fone conversations. Looking forward to the visit from the Wolfe's at week's end. Thumbs Up [tup]

REA was a "fixture" on the railway scene - used to see their trucks on the highways all the time. Buildings ‘n even aircraft. Then - gone-ZO. Once America's passenger trains bit the dust, it was all history. Not knowing the details of the strangling rules ‘n regulations of the day, my guess is that had quite a bit to do with their demise. "Things" were definitely slanted in favor of highways ‘n airways "back in the end of the day." <sad>

While Rob can probably add something to the discussion, the completion of the CP from coast to coast had quite a bit to do with our northern neighbor's paranoia regarding those Yanks encroaching on their southern border. Lots of political stuff going on regarding the railroads on both sides of the 49th . . . . There's a reason the CP trackage is as far south as the topography would permit. Some good reading in the books that have been published about the CP . . .

Appreciate your outstanding < I3 > Post - ‘n to think that no one is reading your words! <grin>

Thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Page 12 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:21 PM ‘n 7:55 PM <1:21 AM ‘n 1:55 AM Tuesday GMT>: The man is back in the saddle, in full swing again ‘n be still our hearts! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Me a tenor Question [?] Hardly! Even when I was doing "background" singing while in a rather popular high school rock ‘n roll group - my contributions were well hidden amongst those who could carry a tune! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] <doo wop diddy, ‘n so forth . . .>

Interesting take on the "caboose" remark - for I wound up married over something like that! <grin>

All kinds of great commentary, as always along with spates of fine fotos too! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] I'll have to add your Haverfordwest shot to my collection for the next time . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

"Barebones" fotos really fall short of the mark without some narrative. Thanx for the extra-effort, Mate! Yeah!! [yeah]

Got a kick out of the "summaries" regarding our Saturday Bash . . . you surely recall more than most - as I believe the ‘lights went out' rather early for more than a few! <uh oh> The Wolfman a beer drinker, surely you jest! <grin>

Of WWII munitions - lost guitars ‘n laments from days gone by - all for fun ‘n good cheer. Many thanx, Mate! Yeah!! [yeah] Bow [bow] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

A tankard of our finest for the man from west Wales! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Page 12 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:42 PM: Holding up the end of things with the day's final Post. Thumbs Up [tup]

Flag stirred up a bit of emotion I see. Look, in life there are far more important things to get wrapped ‘round the axle over - like squaring away this joint after our Saturday Bash. You ARE being paid to be the Manager - so get a move on. <geesh> If it isn't the Bar Chandler nagging about his pay now I gotta contend with a Manager who comes ‘n goes. <triple geesh>

A symbol is a symbol - pretty much best to leave it at that I suppose. Remember the house rules, eh Question [?]

I caught that disparaging comment regarding the syrup from the trees . . . so what's wrong with that, I say Question [?] Coming from a place where warm beer is "in," what does he know anyway, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

So you think Eric's caboose is "nice," hmmmmmm. Perhaps I should rethink my plans to spend time with you next month. <uh oh>

Well, I gottta run . . . . so good to have you back ‘n hope all continues to mend well. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by coalminer3 on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:39 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  It seems as though winter has returned.  Had a nice trip home from work in yesterday in ice and snow which was followed by sun, and then by a very heavy frost last night.  We are supposed to have temperatures in the 20s this evening and then - maybe tomorrow - it will start to warm up again.

Pete was by with comments.

Nick stopped in with comments, flashbacks, and pictures.  Watch those patching compounds, lad.  They are painting some of the spaces at work and it gets quite interesting, even with supposedly "adequate" ventilation. 

Rob - Good to hear from you and glad that things are getting back to what passes for normal.

OSP was by with a fine piece of CP history.  'Locomotives" and "tigers" were cheers back in the day - Boris remembers them because he played football for the Transvylvania Eleven years ago - problem is that they didn't use helmets - explains a lot, don't tou think?

Let's get started with some tonnage rating material.  This is based on a Baltmiore and Ohio documents from July, 1968 titled "Condensed Slow Freight Ratings."  The math involved is pretty simple, quoting from the document, "The tonnage rating for an entire consist is equal to the sum of the tonnage rating of each unit in the consist."  IOW, add ‘em up.  "Consist" here means all of the locomotives. 

The sheets provided ratings for the following types of locomotives.  Note that it is an interesting mixture of first and second-generation units and that different units in some cases have the same tonnage ratings:   SD40/U30C; SD35; GP40/GP38; GP30/GP35; GP9; GP7/F7.

We'll start by looking at what used to be the Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh (BR&P) which later became part of the B&O and still later Chessie and then B&P.  Parts of the line are abandoned, but other sections of it are still active. 

The first piece covers the road from Butler, PA to Punxatawney, PA

Butler - Punxy  NOTE:  This tells us that the profile of the railroad was roughly the same in both directions

(East and West)

 SD40/U30C   3500

SD35            2900

GP40/GP38     2325

GP30/GP35     2000

GP9               1850

GP7/F7          1750

E. Salamanca is where the BR&P had a large yard and locomotive shops.  The main line of the Erie passed through the City of Salamanca which was (and is) just to the west.  Salamanca had set out Pullman service so it was a place of some importance on the Erie.

Punxy to E. Salamanca was a little easier as shown by the numbers.

Punxy - E. Salamanca

SD40/U30C    3200

SD35            2675

GP40/GP38     2125

GP30/GP35     1825

GP9               1700

GP7/F7           1600

E. Salamanca - Punxy

SD40/U30C    2200

SD35             1800

GP40/GP38     1450

GP30/GP35     1250

GP9               1175

GP7/F7           1100

This segment covers the part of the railroad which ran right past my in laws farm.  It is presently out of service below Orchard Park, NY.  I doubt very much if it will ever see a train again.  You can tell that the terrain is much more rugged heading south from Buffalo - Helpers were used on trains through here back in the day when they had steam.

 

E. Salamanca - Buffalo

SD40/U30C    3800

SD35            3150

GP40/GP38     2525

GP30/GP35     2175

GP9              2025

GP7/F7          1900

 

Buffalo - E. Salamanca

SD40/U30C    2100

SD35            1750

GP40/GP38     1400

GP30/GP35     1200

GP9              1125

GP7/F7          1050

Bow we'll see if this will post and hold its alignment; it looks good on the screen here but we all know that doesn't mean anything.

work safe

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