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Posted by pwolfe on Thursday, April 3, 2008 4:54 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

TOM I had not noticed the re-appearance of the other old thread on page 1, it does seem strange indeed.Alien [alien] It has got me wondering just which ones disappearedConfused [%-)]. As Sherlock Holmes would have said "I feel the hand of Moriarty at work here Watson"Big Smile [:D]

Not the constant rain they predicted hereThumbs Up [tup] but we have just had a torrential downpour for about 10 minutesThumbs Down [tdn]. Really pleased you have found someone good to sort out your basement problem.Thumbs Up [tup]
Many thanks for the book covers and descriptions in the Train Books for the Can-Am libraryThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. All great books that would grace any railfans libraryApprove [^], my favorite this week would be the America's Fighting Railroads although I still remember those great photos in TrainsBow [bow].

As you say it is unbelievable to think of the times when I was a kid and train spotting on the wooden bridge when the works let out and the sheer amount of people there was. Still I was treated very well at the works the last few years I was there so the memories are not that bad.

Glad you enjoyed the photos Thumbs Up [tup]I wish I knew more about where they came from and their use.

About those things Boris foundShock [:O], I would try EricWhistling [:-^], can you imagine me having anything to do with a mini-digital cameraSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Great top see those great songs on Herr Wurlitzer in one list.Big Smile [:D]Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the Illinois Central ‘City of New Orleans' Back in the DayThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. Despite the route change it is good Amtrak still keeps the name.Approve [^]

Really enjoyed the U-tube link to the City of New Orleans song Wow!! [wow]Yeah!! [yeah]and that simply wonderful computer images of the Illinois Central E units hauling the trainBow [bow] loved the quiet locomotive sounds in the background and the night-time partsApprove [^]. They are indeed some very fine large photos in the link to Memphis Central StationBow [bow]. It certainly was a classic trainThumbs Up [tup].   

NICK Yes you could certainly tell when the 37s were being worked hardYeah!! [yeah]. For a time they used to have three of them on the Port Talbot to Llanwern iron ore trains and when they were opened up the sound was amazing.Wow!! [wow]

I was having a "old" moment when thinking about Paint it BlackOops [oops], I was seeing the blue Decca label dropping on the turntable and spinning at 45 rpm on a record playerApprove [^], that had 4 speeds (16, 33 1/3, 45 and 78), then the inevitable, TURN IT DOWN came, sometimes before Mick had even starting singing.Sigh [sigh]Smile [:)]

Many thanks for the details on my photosThumbs Up [tup]. I did not know about that quarry locomotive it would great if we could see the photo of it in serviceYeah!! [yeah]. I was wondering about that Aveling and Porter locomotive at Quainton Road. I had a look at their web site and it said their resident A&P loco was named Sydenham, whereas the one in the photo looks to have two words on its nameplate. It could well be the one from Amberley. Yeah!! [yeah]

The drawing I was thinking of was a side-on one I had another look through some mags but could not find it.Sigh [sigh]

It is amazing that the Simplex or its train would ever run on that track.Wow!! [wow]

Really enjoyed your great Brit locomotives coaches and goods rolling stock modelsThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].

The green 0-4-0 in the mixed bag looks like an Irish locoQuestion [?] and 69001 is the type that were the station pilots at York and Newcastle that Alan and I were talking about.

Be careful if you travel north east of Shrewsbury towards Crewe thoughShock [:O], after describing the marvelous Duchess and Princess locos as products of arch rival DerbySmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]. Loved those saddle tanks.Approve [^]

Looking forward to seeing RIPTIDE on the 12thApprove [^]Yeah!! [yeah]. The Bathams XXX has arrived along with the Brains SA and is settling nicely ready for the day.Approve [^]

ROB Yes it really is sad to see how the manufacturing jobs have been lost and once household name factories have closed or just a shadow of their former glorySad [:(]Thumbs Down [tdn].

Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup], it is great to see how many of those great agricultural machines have been saved and are able to be seen in use todayBow [bow].

Many thanks for the Classic Steam on the Ontario's Drowned RailwayApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. I wonder why the re-built the stations that were not effected by the part of the line that was floodedConfused [%-)]. It is good that at least one of the five new stations is still served by VIA RailThumbs Up [tup].

ERIC Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup].

It is sad news about the problems Amtrak are having with the Genesis locomotives this winterThumbs Down [tdn]. I suppose these days there is not the locomotives available to have a spare locomotive and a freight locomotive is no good, as it does not have the ability to heat the cars. Probably tempting fate, but I have not been on a train or heard of an Amtrak locomotive having a problem while working a train in this area. I wonder what would happen if an Amtrak loco failed around hereQuestion [?] I suppose the nearest freight locomotive would tow it off the single-track section but I wonder what happens after that.Shock [:O]

If you want LEON to do as you want have a word with HILDA. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

CM3 Glad you liked the photosThumbs Up [tup]. I did a search on that PEORIA tractor and the only thing I could find was a mention on one forum about rare tractors, where someone said they had seen it a mid west rally in 2003(about the time I saw it) and he heard the Peoria tractors were extinct. He also added that the owner and driver of the tractor was a gentleman who was 98 years old.Wow!! [wow]Bow [bow]

As you say it seems it is getting real hard to find good people to do work on the house etc is getting harder and harder both sides of the pondSad [:(].I find personal recommendation the best and if you get good guys stick with them.Thumbs Up [tup].

In the 1980s and 90s there was a fairly regular series of steam excursions along the North Wales Coast from Crewe to Holyhead. Here is a couple of the specials  I went on.

  

 Ex LNER Class A4 60009 which was running at the time with the name 'Osprey' leaving Chester and heading for North Wales.

  

60009 at Holyhead(ferry terminal for Ireland) getting ready for the return journey.

BR Standard class 4-6-2 No 71000 'Duke of Gloucester at Holyhead. A one off, the last express passenger locomotive built by BR in 1954.

  

71000. About midway along the coast line there is a branch to the seaside resort of Llandudno. On these trips the steam loco took the train the short distance to Llandudno and a diesel brought the train back to Llandudno Junction, where the train carried on to Holyhead. 

Well RUTH before you go off duty can I have another Bathams and a round pleaseThumbs Up [tup] and just before the Fish 'N' ChipDinner [dinner] I will have another listen to the 'City of New Oreleans'Approve [^].

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, April 3, 2008 6:54 PM

" Well I`m the train they call the City of New Orleons,and I`ll be gone 500 miles when the day is done ".................guitar now.........

 

What ho chaps,just back from therapy night with RIPTIDE-a delightfully cathartic experience Approve [^]-first time for about 3 months that Missisnicks backing singer could make it,and she picked up all the new songs at the first attempt-apparentlythey are all in her dads record collection-

in fact-it occurs to me that I should prolly go straight to bed now-Apologies to all for the lack of a menu-or any sort of coherent response-I did read everything and make a start on a list but `Tonight the bottle let me down`

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Posted by Gunneral on Thursday, April 3, 2008 8:31 PM

Hi Tom and all,

Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for the guys` please.Yeah!! [yeah]

Tom. Just in tendering my apologies today, having a touch of the old inner ear problem at the moment, or "Artillery Ear" as we used to call it, I will not call it "Gunner Ear" as it has conotations of a well known STD complaint!Wink [;)] Have taken some Stemetil and hopefully will be OK for a proper visit tomorrow.Sad [:(]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

To Tom, Pete, Eric, Rob, CM3 and Nick, enoyed all the pics and info you all posted up to yesterday, [Thursday over here], will catch up and acknowledge all your material hopefully tomorrow. [Saturday over here]Sad [:(]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, April 3, 2008 11:22 PM

Good evening Leon , I see that everything is shipshape and in it's proper place as usual. Nick didn't even break anything as he stumbled outWhistling [:-^] I think just a cold Keith's tonight thank-you.

Tom-Slower today but hey still chugging along,I see we hit the ole page seven already Wow!! [wow]Yeah!! [yeah] Not bad for the six  of us eh Question [?]Maybe our next contest should be guess when we get relocated again due to size n length Mischief [:-,] Not to worry I think we are doing well,I shouldn't think I'll be hitting four post a day normally I just had those two days with some time on my hands,one to two will be my normal.Pictures and light conversation does not seem to be to bad a score , though the occational eye buster not all that bad a thing either.

Nice write up on the city of N'orlens. It's funny I've always liked the song but until you did that post and I saw and read the lyrics I never trigged to the fact that the song was about a train.

Those shots were two from my old home layout the first two the second two with the TH&B switcher were the club layout ( much changed now as I'm told ) I haven't been a member in about five years but I'm still friends with and in contact with most of them. 

Don't know what to tell you about the missing post numbers,I have to say that I really don't pay attention to them nor have I ever. Some days if I see something worthwhile posting to I will ( stars never ment anything to me when they were around )I'm working on a couple guys in teh other forums to see if I can groom them to come over,who knows they might be some of those looking in just getting a feel for us.

Eric-Interesting thoughts on Amtraks genesis loco's. i think CM3's right liekly alot of teh problems are defered maintenance. Mind you VIA's had problems with theirs. Don't use them on the long runs ( Canadian, Ocean etc ) and they don't like using them in hilly terrain either. the F40's just do it better and are being rebuilt again because of it ( that and the rebuilding is cheaper than buying more Genesis units )Those are old layout shots( club and home ) all scenes gone or radically reformatted.

Pete-Loved today's photo's espeacially the big standard 4-6-2 what a beautifull beast Thumbs Up [tup]

 What can you say about factory jobs anywhere but in the third world anymore. Gone or extremely streamlined wiht small staffs.Truly the changing times , not necessarily for the better in my opinion either.

 reading Branchline magazine tonight I see that GMD in London is shipping out some more diesel goodies to England. I don't remeber the name of the railroad but it got some German  ownership and running by the sounds of it.

Nick-Thanks for stopping in and stumbling outBig Smile [:D] catch you tomoorw once you've recooperated.Sounds like Riptide'sd had a good couple of gigs. Thumbs Up [tup]

Allan-Sorry to hear that you're a bit under the weather,hope it clears up for you. nothing worse than inner/middle ear problems.litterally puts a spin on the worldSad [:(]

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Friday, April 4, 2008 6:36 AM

<personal foto>

Friday's Grin

Brain Cramps

"Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life,"

-- Hollywood actress, during an interview to become spokesperson for federal anti-smoking campaign.

 

 

G'day Gents!

We made it - Friday ‘n time to prepare for the weekend! Yeah!! [yeah] Fill up the coffee mugs, check out The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Comments from the Proprietor

It was surely two days of total contrast - Wednesday was Rob ‘n Nick Day whereas Thursday was Where IS Everyone Day?!?! The Feast or Famine Bar ‘n Grill moves on.

Anyone notice that "Our" Place II has disappeared from Page one Question [?] Not to be seen again . . . interesting how some JO AH Thread can be brought back from the distant past, but not so with the <locked> QUALITY Threads . . . Thumbs Down [tdn] Censored [censored] Banged Head [banghead]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Thursday - April 3rd: <all times Central daylite>

Page 6 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:50 AM: Good to see our Resident WVA Connection made it "in" . . . morning ‘slot' ain't the same unless the man called Shane fills it. Yeah!! [yeah]

Twenty cents difference in petrol prices between your hills ‘n these parts . . . with a couple of operating refineries across the Mississippi, we've been "blessed" by lower prices - "blessed" that is ‘til the wind shifts! <ugh>

Sorry to admit that my "stack o' books" to read is beginning to take on the proportions of the leaning tower . . . to add yet another ‘serious read' just means I'll need a LARGER get A-ROUNDTUIT! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] I will make an effort though to get the Glacier book - thanx! Thumbs Up [tup]

I've never been one to get all wrapped around the axle over things like high school reunions and the like. But when my class 25th came up, I was "convinced" by long-distance friends to make an appearance. It was a blast - 5 days of fun in "the city." Anyway, when visiting the old school grounds, I was devastated by the appearance of NY City police stationed pretty much at strategic locations around the perimeter of the grounds. Then to get inside required going through TWO check-points. It was perhaps more security than I had experienced at some military installations. Sometimes it's far better to NOT go back . . .

Many thanx for the visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:54 PM: Just LOOK at the span of time between customer visits ‘n it's easy to see why this joint carries the name of Feast or Famine! <geesh>

Good to see ya again ‘n appreciate the fine < I3 > Post, as usual. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Congrats on turning the Page . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

It's really no mystery regarding what the Hall Monitor is doing. Seems that those few who are Posting toy or model trains inquiries are having their submissions moved to the proper location <Forum>. Why he is removing any or all responses made IS a mystery. Fuhgedaboudit is probably the best advice to follow . .

I never had a record that played at 16 rpm . . . but had turntables with that speed available. Oh the memories of my 45s with those "adaptors" one needed to get ‘em to fit the turntable spindle. I still have a box of those 45 records - most of ‘em warped, but the record labels are in pretty good shape - brings back lots ‘n lots of memories from the 50s, when Rock ‘n Roll had its birth from Rhythm ‘n Blues origins.

Really enjoyed your spate of four fotos! Especially liked those with the steamers at the station ‘n the long string of passenger cars waiting to "go." Yeah!! [yeah]

One of the trips we should take is from Chicago to New Orleans aboard The City of New Orleans. Just kinda touch base down there ‘n return . . . the closest station to St. Louis is Carbondale, IL - so it would be better to go up to Chicago ‘n experience the entire route.

Glad you enjoyed the YouTube link on the City of New Orleans - a great song!

Soooooooo, YOU are "fingering" Eric! Wow!! [wow]

Thanx for the visit, chat, fotos ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:54 PM <12:54 AM Friday GMT>: A candle burning at both ends soon runs out of wick . . . small wonder our Resident Londoner in Wales is in need of crashing. Happens. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

No need to apologize, Mate - the galley is being "handled" by those abominations brought in by Rob - the "gals" called H&H . . . then there's YOUR friend, Copperkettle - so all's well <I suppose>! <grin>

Later! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - Allan <Gunneral> at 8:31 PM <2:31 PM Friday NZ time>: Sorry that you're a bit under the weather . . . here we have Nick really under it, 'n you with a totally different cause. Which would you prefer Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Never heard of an STD impacting the EAR! Provides a totally new definition to "stick it in your ear!" <uh oh>

We'll be here when you're up 'n about the decks, Mate! The TUI will remain at the ready . . . COLD too! <grin>

Thanx for thinking about us 'n of course the ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:23 PM: In with some comments 'n positive vibes - that's our Manager! Thumbs Up [tup]

Our Resident Ontario Connection DID NOT KNOW the song "City of New Orleans" was about a train! Wow!! [wow] Had to read that twice to make sure you weren't kidding . . . Wow!! [wow]

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but if one has to be "cultivated" to simply visit "Our" Place, probably not worth it . . . <geesh> Early on in our development we tried to get a few of those guys from the old coffee shop over here - just to kinda reciprocate. You can see how "successful" we were with that! Thumbs Down [tdn]

Really do appreciate ANY 'n ALL efforts to get us some "new blood," but I've lost the "zing" for it . . . just the way it is. Of course I'll still put the "welcome mat" out should someone drop by - but that's it. Take us or leave us . . .

Sure wish those at Amtrak who are responsible for reliable motive power would make themselves aware of VIA Rail's program . . .

Good to see ya 'n appreciate the time 'n effort to keep up with the jibber-jabber from "we six." Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, April 4, 2008 8:38 AM

Morning Ruth , just in with  for an eye openner ( BK speacial blend ) and a number three. No Boris no donuts from the mosheen today,I don't think H&H have cleaned it latley, and no I don't think those are just white sprinklesShock [:O] Make sure the critter are fed and that small PPF is there for you as well.

Tom-I wasn't quite sure what to make of Allan's STD and ear connection there myself,I see that you went there though <uh oh >Laugh [(-D] Hopefully just local slang.

Frightening what high-schools have become now,more and  more they are becomming armed camps a sad reflection on today's up and comming generation (s)

I'm always looking for new talent,some just need a prod,but your right we have a good group here but any more that wish to put up with us is okay with me.

Well Ruth a fill up and I'm off to work,I'll leabve you all with a couple o pictures to brighten this otherwise wet gloomy morning.

This is an ex CP 424 that was one of the RS18's and 424's they connverted to engineless control cars ( road slug with  cab controls ) Guelph JCT in 2002

One of the 6 axle alco's CP re-acivated from storage in the 90's when they were power short seen leading a train at Arkell On ( this is the siding a few miles from the museum where we have things moved to for us once in a while )

A CN alco RS18E in the passenger tempo train aoint schemem from that late 70's,these units ran on the VIA in the same service the frist few years of it's existance.Toronto 1978 this is  JD Knowles photo (founding musuem member)

Rob

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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, April 4, 2008 8:46 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Cloudy here today with ,lots more rain just to the west and some thunderstorms as well.  Gas took a nice little jump overnight to $3.45; diesel is at $4.04. 

Allan - Hope you feel better

Nick - Made a quick stop b4 he "hit the wall." 

Pete - Thoroughly enjoyed the pictures you sent.  The "Duke" is a fine example of the builder's art.

Rob - Rememeber the Tempo and the Tempo paint scheme as well.

OSP - You will enjoy the Glacier book.

Sicne we are looking at the IC a little, here's some 1950-era information on the City of New Orleans.

IC Train 2 - 202 "City of New Orleans"

Diesel-powered coach streamliner

Deluxe reclining seats-stewardess-radio

Tavern Lounge cars

Diner - New Orleans-Chicago

Coaches - New Orleans-Chicago

New Orleans-St. Louis in IC 202; Carbondale-St. Louis

Carbondale-St. Louis

IC Train 1 - 201 "City of New Orleans"

Diesel-powered coach streamliner

Deluxe reclining seats-stewardess-radio

Tavern Lounge cars

Diner - Chicago-New Orleans

Coaches - Chicago-New Orleans

St. Louis-New Orleans in IC 201; St. Louis-Carbondale

St. Louis-Carbondale

Now for something that was truly magnificent (and one I never did get to ride, unfortunately) - check out all of the "different" Pullmans; the "shorts" on the train were not bad, either; the one to Gulfport would have been interesting.  Note to OSP: Your fair city was not neglected either.

IC Train 5 "Panama Limited"

IC Train 205-5

Diesel-powered streamlined train

All Pullman - Radio - Valet - No coaches

Sleepers:

Chicago-New Orleans: 6 section/6 roomette/4 double bedroom (four cars); 18 roomette; 3 double bedroom/drawing room/compartment-lounge; 2 drawing room/4 comparment/4 double bedroom;2 double bedroom/1 drawing room/2 compartment-observation

St. Louis-New Orleans: 6 section/6 roomette/4 double bedroom (via IC 205)

Memphis-New Orleans: 10 section/1 drawing room/2 compartments

Chicago-Gulfport: 6 section/6 roomette/4 double bedrooms - In IC 105 Jackson-Gulfport

Diner-Lounge: Chicago-Carbondale

Diner: Chicago-New Orleans

Parlor Car: Jackson-New Orleans

Parlor-lounge: St. Louis-Carbondale

Coaches: St. Louis-Carbondale (IC 205)

That is, IMHO, a classic train.

Work safe

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Posted by LoveDomes on Friday, April 4, 2008 1:09 PM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!

Ruth my deAH, ‘tis I, the Larsman in for a "quickie" - lunch of course! Evil [}:)] Anyway, how about one of my favorites - a hero sandwich on a hard roll with ham ‘n Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH. Don't forget the two large ‘n crunchy pickles from the barrel - a frosty mug of Piels ‘n a round for the boyz at da bar! Keep the change you lovely thing you! <blush>

Boris, stop trying to hug the very breath from me ‘n please put me down! <phew> Don't know how he does that - but a hug from Boris is like being placed in a vise with only one setting - TIGHT. <yikes> Pour a saucer of brine for Tex, fill up the seed tray for Awk, put a few strips of tree bark in a tray for Spike, a bucket of ice cubes for Frostbite ‘n of course a chew bone for Juneau! I think that covAHs ‘em all. Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, of course you may have a LARGE jar of PPF - just as long as you take Artie outback for his field mouse! <see, I did forget one!>

I found myself sitting ‘n sitting ‘n sitting <waiting for the Mrs.> then I discovered that this facility has some computers available for those waiting for patients to finish with their treatments. So, I thought I'd give it a try. Little awkward for me, for in order to get some of the graphics that I normally use <my sign off ribbon, for example> I have to find a previous post of mine, then copy it, and so on. Anyway, if I abruptly sign off, you'll know WHY! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Hope this post helps Da Bossman out a bit. Maybe even take a break for the afternoon. Thumbs Up [tup] Sorry 'bout that basement problem. Hopefully it isn't anywhere near as complex or as damaging as ours was. Thumbs Down [tdn]

Read through a couple of pages and it's great to see so much activity from Rob ‘n Nick along with the steady contributions from Pete, Eric, Shane ‘n Allan. See, youse guyz don't need me ‘round here. With Cap'n Tom at the helm ‘n such a fine crew, look at the bright side - we could be back in the days of people who ignored the way we do things ‘n dropped off their stuff, totally mindless of the ignorance factor being displayed. The bar is far, far bettAH off without ‘em. By the way, I noted some references to "six" - isn't it SEVEN Question [?] By my count it is. <geesh>

So it's Eric ‘n Pete "at it again," huh Question [?] I see where the Wolfmiester has tried to place the blame on the Ericburger. Will this evAH end???? Youse guyz should know bettAH than to try ‘n "catch" me in the "act"!!

Pretty much wanted to assure youse guyz that I will definitely be here on the 12th! My middle son is going to make sure that I am. He thinks I should be here more often ‘n bugs me about it, unmercifully I should add. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Just don't think it's gonna happen. I'll try my best to take advantage of the times when they present themselves. Today is a good example. Best I can do, guys, best I can do.

Let me get straight to the covers from the Larsman Mobile - then I'm gonna get back to reading what I've missed both at this new thread ‘n over on #2 . . . . sad to see it slip beneath the waves. Yeah, I too wondAH why it can't be brought back to page 1 - if the crap that keeps getting resurrected does, why not that? So it's "locked," which I thought meant no more posts. Oh well, what in "H" do I know? I'm the guy "they" think is part of the problem. Screw ‘em . . .

Something to enjoy for Da Boyz . . . keeping to the "theme" begun by Cap'n Tom on the Illinois Central!

Illinois Central - Monday Mornin' Rails (Cap'n Tom's favorite song - City of New Orleans!)

A Look Back at the Illinois Central (DVD)

Illinois Central - Color Pictorial, Vol 1

Illinois Central - Color Pictorial, Vol 2

Illinois Central in Color

Today's Illinois Central, Vol 1 - North (DVD)

 

 

Well, that pretty much "does it" - soooooooooooooooo, Ruth let's get some <ahem> admin work done! I see there's a bit of  <ahem> paperwork in the Senior Manager Emeritus' "in box." <blush>

 

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, April 4, 2008 3:22 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTHThumbs Up [tup].

NICK. Great to hear the RIPTIDE rehearsal went wellThumbs Up [tup]. Looking forward to your band's appearance at the AnniversaryYeah!! [yeah]. Have you a recent photo of the bandQuestion [?].

ALLANSorry to hear about your inner ear problemSad [:(]and I hope it is better real soonThumbs Up [tup]. Looking forward to your visit soonThumbs Up [tup].

ROB Glad you liked the photosThumbs Up [tup]. Yes 71000 is a good-looking locomotive and is a very good performer on steam specials todayBow [bow]. After a short life on BR it was a one time scheduled to be preserved after her time on BR but his was changedThumbs Down [tdn] and only one cylinder was saved as a sectioned exhibit to show how the Caprotti valve gear worked. Very luckily to loco was sold to Barry scrapyard in South Wales and was towed there, although the other outside cylinder was removed to balance the loco during its tow to Barry.

It was known as an impossible project but the preservationists were made of stern stuffThumbs Up [tup] and after renovation at Loughborough 71000 steamed again.Approve [^] Although it had a variable reputation during its time on BR some modifications have been made and she has reached her full potential todayYeah!! [yeah].

I wonder what type of diesels is heading for EnglandQuestion [?]. I guess more of those successful class 66s. I believe the EWS Freight Company in the UK is now at least partly owned by the German DB railway company. Thanks for the info.Thumbs Up [tup]

Many thanks for the photosApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. I am a little puzzled about the engineless control carsConfused [%-)] were they there to control cabless power cars.Thumbs Up [tup]

Do you know if CN keep many locomotives stored in case there is an upturn in traffic. I would though it would have been cheaper to do that than hire in locomotives.

CM3 Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup]. I also think the ‘Duke' is very good looking locomotive.Approve [^] Allocated to Crewe North shed she was quite regular through Rugby on West Coast Expresses, being a one-off she always attracted attention.

Many thanks for the details and the consists of the IC's City of New Orleans and the all Pullman Panama LimitedApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup], a classic train indeed.Bow [bow]

LARS A most welcome and pleasant surprise to see you in the barApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. I see you were able to complete your post at your newfound computer site.Thumbs Up [tup]

As you say we are not doing too bad at the bar at the moment with the high quality of the posts and conversationsApprove [^], but the bar is always that bit brighter when your are able to call in.Yeah!! [yeah]

Many thanks for those great Illinois Central covers from the Larsman BookmobileThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].

 I think one of the papers in your ‘Inbox' is my annual pay claim.Big Smile [:D]

TOM I too have never seen a record that played at 16 RPM, there must have been some as you say all the record players at the time seem to have that speedConfused [%-)]. There was quite a few 78s about when I was a kid. I recall I  had a Buddy Holly oneApprove [^].

Glad you enjoyed the photosThumbs Up [tup]. I think the cars on the left of the steam engines are for the Boat Train, which will connect to the ferry from Ireland and then head to London Euston. The train locomotive will change from diesel to electric locomotives at Crewe.

I had a quick look at the times of the City of New Orleans and as you say it would be better to ride the train from Chicago, something to look at after your Empire Builder trip do you think.Question [?].

A couple of older British diesel locomotives.

 

A BR class 24. These diesel electrics were built in British Railway works and had a Sulzer diesel engine and BTH electrical equipment intoduced in 1958 these Bo-Bos were rated at 1,160HP.

 

A developement of the class 24s was the 25s. Introduced in 1961 A slighly more powerful Sulzer engine of 1,250HP and by this time BTH had merged into the AEI company and had their traction motors.

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An English Electric class 40 1Co-Co1 diesel electric of 2,000 HP.Introduced in 1958 these locos were allocated to the Midland, Eastern, North Eastern and Scottish Regions when new.The Midland ones worked express passenger trains when new on the West Coast Main Line until they were  replaced south of Crewe by electrification and north of Crewe by the more powerful class 47s and 50s. The electrification was completed from Weaver Junction (north of Crewe) to Glasgow in the early1970s.

Well RUTH I have found another box of photos so I will have a Bathams while I sort through themThumbs Up [tup]. Then the Steak and Fries Dinner [dinner] before I make sure the bar is well stocked for the trackgang.

Pete.

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, April 4, 2008 4:30 PM

G'day Gents!

Really some suprises today - especially having the Larsman stop by with chat 'n covers! Yeah!! [yeah]

Good to see the "Usual Suspects" as well with Rob kicking it off - CM3 Shane 'n Pete supporting cast, as always! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

More comments in the 'morrow's acknowledgments . . . .

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Digging through the archives I came across a couple of "ads" that haven't been seen since the "Original Thread" - so they are definitely NEW to "Our" Place III . . . .

<Initially Posted on Page 166 of the Original Thread, 17 Nov 2005>

 

Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with Classic Trains.  Check this ad out (from The Official Guide of the Railways - 1956) [located on the inside of the front cover]

 

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<Initially Posted on Page 149 of the Original Thread, 28 Oct 2005>

Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with Classic Trains.  Check this ad out (from The Official Guide of the Railways - 1956) [located on page iii]

 

You make a 10% commission every time you reserve a Hertz car for a passenger!

 

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That question is loaded - with potential profit for you.  Ask it every time you sell a ticket.  When the passenger answers "Yes" make the reservation and Hertz will send you 10% of the total car rental. Chances are good he'll say "Yes."  This year hundreds of thousands of wise rail travelers will take advantage of this easy, low-cost way to take the train and have a Hertz car waiting when they arrive.

Your part is easy.  Fill out the triplicate form supplied you free by Hertz.  Send one to the proper Hertz office, give the passenger one, and keep one.

The handy Hertz directory lists more than 1,000 offices around the world.  So you're assured of Hertz service (and that 10% commission) wherever a passenger is going.  Hertz' low rates include all gasoline and oil, plus proper insurance, and Hertz cars are new Powerglide Chevrolets or other fine makes. Start now!  Write today for details and reservation forms Hertz Rent A Car, 218 So. Wabash Avenue, Chicago 4, Ill.

 

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)]Pirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by Gunneral on Friday, April 4, 2008 8:37 PM

Hi Tom and all,

The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` thanks Leon!Yeah!! [yeah]

To you all.  Many thanks for all your kind thoughts`, the second dose of Stemetil seems to have eased the "helicopter effect" a bit and I can now see the screen a lot easier!Smile [:)]

Tom. Caught up on all your great posts`, the Can Am hard and soft cover book selection #5 for your library was very colourful, a very nice selection of pics of your Polar Express RR shelf system, BITD #16 on the Illinios Central RR "City of New Orleans" was most interesting, and the Ticket Agents info was also.Approve [^] Somehow "Gunner ear" sounds very ominous, depending on what company you are in at the time!Wink [;)] Thanks for keeping those Tui`s cold mate!Cool [8D]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric. Ferro-crete is a Kiwi idiom for re-inforced concrete, funny how the English language can be altered to suit circumstances. Nice shot of the SP U-Boat loco.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Rob. Another very interesting Classic Steam #28 about Ontario`s Drowned Rly, and a nice selection of pics of your layout, diesel locos` and trolley`s, here, and over on the other thread.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3. Interesting info on the "City of New Orleans" train, a nice fit with Tom`s post and Lars`s set of covers`.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete. The Black Caps team for the England tour next month has just been announced, the Kiwi`s have a good one day team but seem to still lack a bit in the test arena somehow.Confused [%-)] Enjoyed all of your great pics of the industrial engines`and old tractors`, the nice shots` of A4 "Osprey" and the "Duke of Gloucester" taken on your Holyhead trip, and the BR diesels`.Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick. Nice shots of the small industrial locos`, and your humerous dialogue was very entertaining.Cool [8D]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike. Nice to see you in over at the other thread with some pics of the B&O and the Hudson River.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars. You put the icing on the cake today with your visit mate, real nice to see you in again!Big Smile [:D] A really nice selection of Illinios Central RR covAHS from the Larsman Mobile as usual, and WE do need YOU here Lars, you make up the full TEAM!Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

See ya, Allan

NZ Timeline. 2.36pm Saturday April 5th.

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, April 4, 2008 8:53 PM

Well good evening one & all-glad to see all are looking well-fans of natural justice will no doubt approve that I awoke this morning so hungover & dehydrated that when I stepped into the shower I could feel my skin trying to absorb the water-not the best of days.............

Had a couple of `liveners` during the second half of tonights show and restored to my normal equilibrium-so--Leon,line `em up old thing and lets have a look at the rum bottle.....

The hot news here is that in advance of next saturdays birthday party show from the zeppelin field,the RIPTIDE show on friday night will be transmitted live online as a webcast (?) -not sure yet where to find it but google Castle Cafe,Cardigan -should be findable from there

Right-gonna post this and go back and remind myself of all the stuff that needs responses-meantime how about "Folsom Prison Blues","T-Bone Shuffle","Proud Mary","Rock Me Baby","Whiskey" & "Paint It Black" to keep the feet tapping-will be back now....Chef [C=:-)]  

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, April 4, 2008 10:40 PM

Well chaps I confess-I`m a sucker for an autograph and PETE asking for a pic of the band is as close as I am ever gonna get so-just for you mate:-

img{RESIZE1.jpg picture by nickinwestwales}/img

From the right we have:- Simon-one of the finest players I have had the pleasure of working with,Ritchie on the bass (Billy Bones-a born water rat-prefers gigs he can get to by boat-Missisnick-our secret weapon-she really is very good...,Miss Ellie-a sweet young thing who has beautiful harmonies and is a little ray of sunshine,at the back Steve (Uncle Fester) the thunderous heart of the band,at left,your scribe-posing shamefully....Looks like we are playing "Every day is a winding road"-had a 12,000 watt P.A system that day-too much....

Right-luckily my ego has now passed out and some degree of normality can ensue-first PETE:-an apology for my sweeping generalisation concerning Derby products-I apologise to you and your home town and all the other fine builders I failed to note-describing my G.W engines as "Swindon Products" entirely fails to acknowlege the good work done at the Wolverhampton works--Mea Culpa.....Blush [:I]

General note-As I understand it,16RPM records were intended for `spoken word` performances-plays and such like,never really took off during its day ,although "talking books " are now an everyday part of most libraries  Approve [^]

ROB-full marks for the best yet use of the  Sign - With Stupid [#wstupid] icon-seen in context it is entirely appropriate-and better yet,funny as well....good call Thumbs Up [tup]-Fine pix from you btw-especially like that RS18-also That boxy little switcher from last week-that brief run by on C.N liveries was heaven sent -my man !!-oh-as to the std thing-it might be down to local accents-had me rolling immediately-some stuff just doesn`t translate

LARS-Good to see you mate !-regards to all at home

CM3-Looks like I`ve missed you again-but more from the top drawer from the man in the mountains Big Smile [:D]

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM -what ho old thing-a splendid selection from the master of the house.....The reason I`m not flying out this spring is purely fiscal-is gonna cost $1,000 a pop to send the girls over without adding in spendies,plus we had a bill in today for another $1,000 for fuel for the central heating-but hey-I`ve been before so its all O.K

O.K-Leon make with the bottle now cos I think I may have to retire soon...

PETE-that little tank is supposedly based on a Drummond L.S.W.R design-last example worked at Redbridge sleeper(Tie) depot-#77s-was my first engine and still runs like a song-although a little more loosely than in previous years 

ERIC-Those diddy little freight wagons-if memory serves,the standard design was -for open wagons-16`long,13` wheelbase and a 10 ton load-tanks,vans & others were a variation on that theme

PETE-again-60009-used to be "Osprey" back when I used to see her parked around the old goods shed at Markinch in Fife-had a ride behind her on the Cupar railway-the old Fife central line-just the engine and a beaver tail observation car shuttling up and down-that chime whistle is unforgettable,especially when you hear it ringing out over the open flatlands of mid Fife

ALLAN-good to have you back mate-sorry you are under the weather-there is a lot of it going round-get rested and take care Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Right then-looks like its a stack of quarters for the juke,at least $10 for assorted pigs feet and other snacks ,a twenty as a bribe in case this lot comes out as wide format and earns me a tweeting and a 50 for the round-go for it boys-will see you all soon-have a good weekend everybody-speak soon Chef [C=:-)]

 
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Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, April 4, 2008 10:42 PM

Good evening Leon, another interesting day here at the tavern by the tracks Thumbs Up [tup] What the heck I'll a a double rum and coke with Nick the music's pretty darn good tonight hopefully they'll play some Cream in the next set Thumbs Up [tup]I can put my hair down a bit , no Boris it's not a toupee Sigh [sigh] Since the Larsman's caught up all my paperwork again , and then some.Blush [:I]

Tom-Interesting read again on those car rental adverts. Again more of the quailty over quantity rearing it's head again Thumbs Up [tup] Approve [^]

Lars-Good to see you again,nice to know you can take advantage of the odd bit of comp time while you were waiting.Great selction of books as always.

Boris seems to be  happy to see you and hey the critters got an extra feeding so their obviously happy to see you as well.I'm still kind of steamed at the  abrupt closure of the last thread myself ( bogus reason on this forum )I guess this is what we get for thumbing our noses at the man.Evil [}:)]I look forward to seeing you on the 12th. I'll be in and out as Heather';s dad and I are going on a local layout tour,but I shall certainly spend somem quality time here as well. I'm going to take the didgital with me as well,maybe I'll get some inspiration Thumbs Up [tup]

Pete-Couple neat photo's today.I believe it was more class 66's the article mentioned and the company you mentioned sound like the one they were talking about.

Those CPR control cars were used on transfer runs. The trains only required one locomotive but the crews didn't like running backwards all the way home as there was no turning faciliies available for the loco's co the control car acted as the lead loco on one way of the run.

CN and CP do store servicable some older locmotives ( not nearly the numbers as they did in the past ) Leasing or time credits on other roads units are common now.

Allan-Glad to hear that you are right way up again Thumbs Up [tup] I ahve a friend that has the occational attack of inner ear difficulties ( he was a Canadian Forces SAR teck ) the jumping in and out of helicopters and all the quick changes in altitude over his twenty year career not to mention the chopper noise ( old Labradors )caused the problem.Glad you liked the latest pics and write ups Thumbs Up [tup] Nice to know your enjoying the other thread as well.

CM3-Great timly input on the City of N'orleans as well Thumbs Up [tup] Had you the pleasure of a run on the ole tempo train,I had one ride though at the time it was a VIA not CN run op but it was still a matched set from loco on back.It was around CNE time if I recolect correctly.

Nick-I'm amazed that I actually ahd the ocation to use that icon in context,still it seems appropo at the time.Hopefully the CN liveries were a helpfull walk down memory lane for you.By the way I was rolling just envisioning a human morphing into a sponge in the shower as alluded to in your first post.In your case a sponge bob square pants in leather rockstar get -up comes to mind for some reason. Nice pic of the troops there as well, not quite as frightening of that halloween like picture you put up way back on the original thread. Best not to mention the STD's anymore we may get some strange google ads popping up on the old page.Shock [:O]

Rob

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Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, April 4, 2008 11:55 PM

Hey Leon looks like the glasses are empty agin I think we all need another round.(gotta build up the warchest for the bash of all bashes on the 12th )We will be installing padded flooring for the evening as I have a feeling that most of the staff and patrons will be passed out under the tables.

An Encore for Saturday Morning Thumbs Up [tup]

CLASSIC JUICE # 31 THE LOST ELECTRICS OF SOUTHWESTERN ONTARIO PT # 1

THE BACKGROUND

 

  They came by the thousands during those late summer days in 1884. What they waited to see was North America's first electric streetcar.Here in Toronto at the Toronto Agricultrual Fair , the precursor to today's Canadian National Exhibition ( The CNE or the Ex as it's generally refered to ) they gasped as an electrically powered engine rattled along a set of tracks with three open passenger cars in tow, each jammed with awestruck adventurers. Following an age of stage coaches and steam locomotives , the electric street railway was the newest thing to revolutionize travel.

  For the first summer's exhibition power was carried to the locomotive via a copper strip emebedded in the track. The following year the more familiar overhead wires made their appearance.Beacause railways could not provide local neighbourhood service and the slow jolting horsedrawn coaches were slow , the electric streetcar craze spread quickly. By 1900 Ontario had 205KM ( 128 miles ) of line , by 1910, 553KM.

  Those eminating from out of Toronto could claim 219KM (137miles) of track, Hamilton had the most lines with 4 separate one's although the combined trackage totaled only 125KM (78 miles ). The Grand River area could claim 142KM ( 89 miles ), The Niagara Area 118KM (74 miles ),while Southwestern Ontario bosted the second most extensive electric network with 150KM (94 miles).

   More than 87 electric railways were proposed across Ontario. Most were never built.One of the most enthusiastic propnents was not a commercial operator, but rather the first Chairman of the Ontario Hydro Electric Commission Adam Beck ( later knighted for his work in government and railway development ).With a massive source of electric power at his dissposal ( Niagara Falls power generating stations now known as the Sir Adam Beck Plants 1 and 2 )he proposed electric railway networks which would link Toronto with Sarnia, Port Perry and Fort Erie. Indeed , were it not for two small gaps in Ontario's radial network, one of 17 and a half KM ( 11 miles ) west of Port Credit, and another of 11KM (7 miles ) between Vineland and St Catharines this province would have had a radial railway network which would have extended from Toronto to Guelph into New York State and from there links to the Midwestern Interurban systems to Chicago !

 By the 1920's  the auto age was starting and the gasoline and tire manufacturers were aggressivly lobbying for the end to public funding of the electric railway industry.In 1923 the government of E.C. Drury was elected and refused the loan guarrantee's of the early government which ended Beck's radial system dreams. Electric railways, dwindled from nearly 1280KM ( 800 miles ) of trackage at their peak in 1920 to less than half of that two decades later.When the last radial car pulled into St Catharines downtown terminal in 1959 , 387KM ( 242 miles) of electric radial trackage still operated, but all was devoted to freight service only.

THE WINDSOR ESSEX & LAKESHORE RAPID RAILWAY

  Known as the "Sunshine County Route ", the purpose of this line accross Essex County was to tap into the booming rural growth in Southwestern Ontario's most populous county.Although incorporated as early as 1879, it's charter was not acted on until 1901. It's provisions envisioned extentions as far as Wheatly and Tilbury.

  During construction, the WELR came up against the Michigan Central which stubbornly refused the electric line permission to cross it's own mainline in Essex, a stand off eventually resolved by the Board Of Railway Commissioners, the federal gov railway watchdog.Finally in sept of 1907 the electric cars began operating between Windsor and Essex.Shortly afterward Kingsville and by april of 1908 into Leamington.This was as far as they got. The extensions to Wheatly and Tilbury remained paper dreams only. In 1919 the Hydro Electric Commission became involved in the operations of electric railways accorss Ontario ( Adam Beck was now the President as well as a Liberal MPP )

   The WELR did carry a small amount of frieght traffic as well, mainly from the canneries in Leamington, connecting with the CPR,The Michigan Central, the Essex Terminal,and the Pere Marquette.After operating quite profittably for a number of years, the WELR reached it's peak with 1 million passengers in 1921. But the inevitable bus competition appeared in the 1920's, and to compete the WELR began operating buses of it's own.Still by 1928 passenger traffic had dropped by two thirds.

    In 1928 the HEPC did the unthinkable. Flaunting the looming auto age, and falling profits,HEPC began to upgrade the electric infrastructure, and placed orders for new cars.In 1930 they began to make plans for a new Windsor terminal aquiring the lands.The new terminal would serve both the electric lines and the fledgling bus company.It was never built.

  The new cars were indeed the latest in luxury. With the words "Sunshine County Route"boldly painted on the carsides, they containes smoking compartments with leather settees, a main compartment with 28 uplostered seats and a 15 foot solarium at each end of the car,as well as being heated electrically ( the old cars had coal stoves )

    All the new equipment in the world could not compete with the auto age, espeacially once the depression hit. By 1930 the WELR was loosing $150,000 a year, an amount unacceptable to the many little municipaliteis along the line that paid for the privalige. In sept 1932 the line was shut down, and within three years all the tracks had been lifted.

Rob

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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, April 5, 2008 2:04 AM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, a number 2 special, please. Keith's!

Finally here, after a messy day. Tonight I tried to talk to customer service representatives somewhere in India. Not easy, not easy. Before that I had to talk to a computer! I just hate to talk to machines. And now, when I tried to get the picture for this post, I can't get to it! It just doesn't work. SoapBox [soapbox]

Tom –  My stomach is empty at some time every day! That is why I am ordering something to eat almost every time I visit Our Place.Smile [:)]

I agree about the model railroads, you can give it trackage rights anywhere you want and not even pay for it.Wow!! [wow] I like those bridges the Polar Express is running across. Smile [:)]

“Steel Rails to Victory” by Ron Ziel is available for the RR Book Relay 2008. I’ll be happy provide it. It is a hard cover book.Smile [:)]

Amtrak’s problems with their Genesis locos may be a lack of (or too much deferred, as CM3 mentions) of maintenance problem or maybe those locomotives aren’t just as good (for different reasons) as the old F40’s. Sigh [sigh]

City of New Orleans, one of my favorite trains!Thumbs Up [tup] Interesting info on that train!Thumbs Up [tup]

I also prefer Willie Nelson’s version of the song with the same name.Yeah!! [yeah]

Reading the Avis and Hertz ads from the Official Guide of the Railways makes me wonder why they told everyone (reading the ads) that they gave 10% commission to whoever made the car reservation for the passengers?Question [?]

CM3 –  I think you are right about Amtrak’s Genesis locomotives.Smile [:)]

I would say both “City of New Orleans” and “Panama Limited” are a very classic trains.Smile [:)]

Pete –  I must say I am surprised that Amtrak doesn’t use two locotives on all their long distance trains. But i am sure it is in order to cut the costs and as long as the single locomotive works they save money on it.Smile [:)]

So I should talk to Hilda? Hmmm. Probably a good idea.Mischief [:-,]

I like your photos of the LNER 60009 and, even more so, BR 71000.Thumbs Up [tup] The newer loco looks very nice! How many years was that in service?Question [?] 10-15 years?

Interesting to see that BR built their own locomotives, class 24 and class 25.Smile [:)]

Nick –  Good to see that you have recovered from the tough Thursday!Wow!! [wow] Maybe the 12,000 watts was too much. It certainly would be for me.Confused [%-)] Thanks for the picture of the band!Thumbs Up [tup]

16’ long cars. On the small side, so to speak. Thanks for the info!Thumbs Up [tup]

Allan –  You better be careful and take care of your Artillery Ear!Yeah!! [yeah] I have a locomotive horn ear. No pain and hardly any hearing, just strange kind of noises all the time.

Rob –  I also think F40 is a better and more reliable locomotive than Genesis. VIA is doing the right thing, rebuilding their F40’s.Yeah!! [yeah]

Thanks for the photos of the CN and CP locomotives!Thumbs Up [tup] It seems to me like the cab of the converted #1102 is very pointed.

Interesting article on the Lost Electrics of Southwestern Ontario!Thumbs Up [tup] From the first experimental line at the Toronto Agricultural Fair to the new cars on the Sunshine County Route.Yeah!! [yeah] Were those new cars sold to another street railway or just scrapped, only a few years old?Question [?]

Lars –  Senior Manager Emeritus, good to see you again, Sir!Yeah!! [yeah] Of course we need you here at the bar! So does Ruth!

A good collection of Illinois Central books!Thumbs Up [tup] Oh, the last one is a video (DVD). I’ll pick the first one, Illinois Central Monday Mornin’ Rails!Smile [:)]

See you the 12th!!Yeah!! [yeah]

Allan –  I understod that ferro-crete meant reinforced concrete. It is kind of self- explaining.Wink [;)]

Sorry, no picture tonight.

 

Eric 



 

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, April 5, 2008 8:33 AM

<personal foto>

 

This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!

Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.

 

G'day Gents!

Saturday at the Bar by the Ballast - time to fill up the coffee mugs, sample a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board.

Anyone recall the humble beginnings for our Menu Board Question [?] Hmmmmmmm. Those of you who've been ‘round this joint for a couple of years may be able to recall . . . . Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Comments from the Proprietor

I'm sooooooooooooo far behind in things needing to get done on this weekend day . . . sooooooooo, I'm simply going to list those who dropped by since my last narrative. I'll try to get to specifics as time progresses. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Friday - April 4th: <all times Central daylite>

Page 7 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:38 AM: Fine foto spread! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:47 AM: Great IC stuff! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - Lars <LoveDomes> at 1:09 PM: Most pleasant surprise! Fine spate of covAHs from Da Man! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:22 PM: Dependable Pete ‘n a most inclusive offering w/fotos! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - Allan <Gunneral> at 8:37 PM <2:37 PM Saturday NZ time>: Always a treat ‘n appreciation for the Tuis <burp>! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:53 PM ‘n 10:40 PM <2:53 AM ‘n 3:40 AM Saturday GMT>: A twofer from our friend in Wales! Foto of the band is a <keeper>! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Page 7 - Rob <trolleyboy) at 10:42 PM ‘n 11:55 PM: Twofer from our Resident Ontario Connection!

 

Saturday - April 5th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 7 - Eric <EricX2000> at 2:04 AM: A word regarding Pix-Posting late at night <or early AM>: In something I read from Bergie while browsing his Posts, he said that the Forums are very slow at those times because of routine maintenance. Made particular reference to someone complaining about not being able to Post fotos . . . . if I can find it for you, I'll give you the link. BUT, seems to me it makes sense ‘n probably is a plausible reason for your difficulties.

Fine <I3 > Post!

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Many THANX for all who stopped by AND especially to those who bought ROUNDS 'n provided quarters for Herr Wurlitzer's Coal Scuttle! Yeah!! [yeah] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

TODAY is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, April 5, 2008 11:45 AM

Hi Tom and all.

A cup of your famous coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDYThumbs Up [tup].

TOM Like you the sun is shining here in Mid-MoThumbs Up [tup] and there is no end of yard work to be doneSigh [sigh]. Got a bit of time as the bride is away at the minute getting suppliesSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg].

Many thanks for the Hertz and Avis rent a car ads.Thumbs Up [tup]I see they are from a 1956 official guide; it made me wonder when the rent a car business was first offered to train passengersQuestion [?]

ALLAN Real glad the inner ear problem has eased for youThumbs Up [tup].

It is strange that cricket sides can be good at the one-day game and yet don't do anywhere as well at the test matches or vice versaConfused [%-)].

Thanks for the kind words on the photos.Thumbs Up [tup] I have found a few more photos with quite a few industrial locomotives.Approve [^]

NICK. Oh yes I well remember waking up with a mouth like the bottom of a parrot's cageSad [:(]. It is amazing how something that tasted so good the night before can make one feel so rough in the morning.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Many thanks for the photo and the details of RIPTIDEApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup], any plans for a U-Tube appearance in the futureQuestion [?].Wow!! [wow] 12 KW would power an electric locomotiveBig Smile [:D], those Second Class Saloon lot will be able to hear us at the Anniversary.Approve [^]

Thanks for the Info on the 16RPM records and the Drummond 77S model locoThumbs Up [tup].

Unfortunately I never got to Markinch or rode the Cupar RailwaySad [:(], It must have been great to ride behind No9 in the beaver tail carYeah!! [yeah]. Yes the A4 whistle is unmistakableWow!! [wow]. If I recall right the only other British locos to have a chime whistle were the Standard Britannias, 71000 and some of the Standard Class 5 4-6-0s

ROB Thanks for the info on the ‘Control Cab' locomotivesThumbs Up [tup], now I see it makes sense. I guess with nearly all the BR diesels having two cabs I did not think of itDunce [D)]. The only single cab locos on BR are nearly always used in pairs with the cabs outward.

Many thanks for the Classic Juice # 31 EncoreApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. It is sad to see all those miles of electric powered lines have disappearedSad [:(], I think today it is realized the folly of getting rid of them, especially with the concern about pollution nowadays and Hydro as got to be the cleanest form of generating powerYeah!! [yeah]. Do you know who built the generators in the Niagara Falls Hydro Power Station.Question [?]

Those 1928 cars do sound luxuriousWow!! [wow] I wonder what were they used on after the WELR was closed, only 4 years after they were built.

ERIC Real sorry to hear you is having problems in posting your photos for the barThumbs Down [tdn].

When we traveled on the Southwest Chief it did have two locomotives but the two times I have been on the Texas Eagle it had only the one, I think I recall reading about a lot of inconvenience to passengers recently when the loco on the Texas Eagle broke down.Thumbs Down [tdn]

Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup], if I am right, 71000 only had 8 years in BR service,Sad [:(] one year later and I doubt if she would have been built as BR announced the Modenisation Plan in 1955. I will have to talk a bit more about the Duke later.Thumbs Up [tup]

Yes the BR workshops built quite a few classes of diesels and electric locomotives.

I have a mixed bag of photos this week.

On Pike's Peak, Colorado I believe.

On one of the bride's visits to England we took the bus to the small town of Brinklow and after a pub lunch walked back along the Oxford Canal and came across this gem.

A detail of the LMS badge on the side of the narrow-boat.

Maybe someone can help with details of this fine locomotiveQuestion [?]Thumbs Up [tup], not even sure of the locationAshamed [*^_^*], it could be in Colorado.

Well CINDY let me get a round Thumbs Up [tup]and then the yardwork.

Pete.  

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, April 5, 2008 1:27 PM

This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day! 

Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.

 

G'day Gents!

Back with a few comments to those who were mentioned in the AM acknowledgments . . . AND something for this ENCORE! Saturday . . .

Customer Comments:

Rob - That visit to my old HS was in 1981 . . . can only imagine it today. Thumbs Down [tdn] Couple of Emails sent your way . . .  Liked those fotos <from grandad?>

CM3 Shane - Illionis Central, Monday mornin' mail . . . yeah, IF only . . .

Pete - Let's PLAN on it! Quick turnaround in N'rlns shud do it! Thumbs Up [tup] Emails sent to you.

When we're at the Barriger RR Library during Rendezvous III perhaps you can research that question about WHEN the rental car ads first appeared in those RR Almanacs . . .

Allan - Most gunners that I knew couldn't hear a thing <well, not very much> so they wouldn't have known had someone referred to them in ANY way, shape or fashion. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Aboard ship, we referred to 'em as "cannon cockers." Bring back some memories Question [?] I thought so! Thumbs Up [tup]

Nick - RipTide LIVE via a "cast" - tell us MORE! Yeah!! [yeah] Good scoop on the 16 rpm, I do believe you are correct, Sir! Thumbs Up [tup]

Money ALWAYS gets in the way of having FUN! <geesh> Well at least you didn't let me down - and here I thought you had lapsed into a state of seriousness! Shame on Moi! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Anyway, if you're gonna cross the pond, you'll have to do so when we have Rednezvous - this one coming up is gonna be a good time, really wish you could make it.

Eric - Good deal regarding our next RR BOOK RELAY - many thanx! We'll probably give it a go in the fall if that's okay with you. Your book is more fotos than narrative, yes Question [?] Hope so! As with the bar - we get bogged down with too much narrative - just fills the pages 'n that's about it. I think the problem with the current RR BOOK RELAY was the time it took to get through a serious read as opposed to the year before when it was primarily fotos. Anyway, something to plan on . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

In the days when the car rentals AND airlines were advertising in the RR Almanacs they obviously were vying for business. So it would have made sense to offer incentives to their employees to get "bookings" from the railroad travelers - kinda like a foot in the door. And of course we KNOW how far they got, eh Question [?] <groan>

Really haven't had the time to research that "blurb" I had read on one of Bergie's Posts . . . but you could probably find it by doing a "search" on his name . . . then read through his Posts 'til you come across what I had told you about.

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I see Pete made it "in" for this fine day . . . yeah, I've got outside 'n inside work pending. Censored [censored] coughing is preventing me from getting as much done as I'd like - tomorrow will be week #5 of this crap. Thumbs Down [tdn]

Thanx for the fotos 'n chat! Thumbs Up [tup]

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<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 127 of the Original Thread, 04 Oct 2005>

More on the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad (B&O) of the Fallen Flags from The Official Guide of the Railways - Aug 1956

 


 

 


Thrilled travelers tell us "There's nothing like the view from B&O's STRATA-DOME" ..... Route your passengers via B&O and they'll sing your praises too

Passengers traveling in a B&O Strata-Dome marvel at the thrilling panorama and natural beauty of the ever-changing scenery.

 



FLOODLIGHTS AT NIGHT

Powerful floodlight beams provide a novel view of the landscape after dark.

This exclusive B&O service between Washington and Chicago is offered at no charge!

 



Strata-Dome Dieseliners between

CHICAGO - AKRON - PITTSBURGH - WASHINGTON

The Capitol Limited (All Pullman) - The Columbia (Deluxe-Coach) - The Shenandoah* (Pullman and Coach)

 



THROUGH SERVICE TO AND FROM -

BALTIMORE, WILMINGTON, PHILADELPHIA AND NEW YORK.



*On the Shenandoah, Strata-Dome is operated on alternate dates. Available only to Pullman passengers on the Shenandoah.

 



BALTIMORE & OHIO RAILROAD

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<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 127 of the Original Thread, 04 Oct 2005>

More on the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad (B&O) of the Fallen Flags from The Official Guide of the Railways - Aug 1956

 



B&O DIESEL-ELECTRIC FEATURE TRAINS

CAPITOL LIMITED - COLUMBIAN - SHENANDOAH
Between Chicago, Pittsburgh, Washington and the East



NATIONAL LIMITED - DIPLOMAT - METROPOLITAN
Between St. Louis, Cincinnati, Washington and the East



THE AMBASSADOR
Between Detroit, Washington and Baltimore



THE ROYAL BLUE
Between Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia and New York



STRATA-DOME CARS*
On 3 Fine Trains

CAPITOL LIMITED - COLUMBIAN - SHENANDOAH
Chicago - Akron - Pittsburgh - Washington
Baltimore - Wilmington - Philadelphia - New York

(* In service between Chicago and Washington)

 



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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom
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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, April 5, 2008 7:38 PM

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Cindy, are you still here? A juicy Filet Mignon with baked potatoes and mushrooms would be perfect this beautiful Saturday. A cold Keith's, please!

Put the Mrs on an airplane this morning. She will be gone for a week and that will make me a little busier than normal, but it should not interfere with my visits to the Bar by the Siding.

Tom –  The problem with my pix last night was with the server where I keep it stored, not the forum server.Grumpy [|(]

I would say the book, Steel Rails to Victory, is 85-90% photos. It is okay with me anytime you want to start the relay. Smile [:)]

The car rentals and the airlines got much more than a foot in the door.Grumpy [|(] More like the whole body.

Still coughing? You better get well before the Rendezvous! Just 40 days to go.

Baltimore & Ohio, a very classic railroad indeed!Thumbs Up [tup] Would have been nice to travel with them through the night with the floodlights on.Yeah!! [yeah]

Pete –  The locomotive in your photos is Delaware, Lackawanna & Western 4-4-0, built by ALCO. It belongs to the National Transportation Museum in St. Louis and the plan for it is a cosmetic restoration and finish removing the “aging" done by the DL&W. Only three Camelbacks survive today. Smile [:)]

Nice to see the pictures from the top of Pike’s Peak.Thumbs Up [tup] I have very similar photos from the same place. I think I showed one of the Cog Railway cars last year. When I was up there it was a heatwave, 35Ëš F.Wink [;)]

I think it is fascinating to see all those narrow canals in England. Way to travel!Smile [:)]



Some photos from the old country taken from the cab of different locomotives in the 70’s, except the last one. It was taken 1991.




Passing another train.

 



The place for the worst train disaster in Sweden, Getå 1918. At least 42 people died when the train slid off the track to the left. The locomotive involved is still operational and can be seen in the photo below. 

 

The Swedish State Railways Class F, 4-6-2, #1200 was involved in the Getå accident. 

 



 

A round for the house! 

 

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Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, April 5, 2008 11:28 PM

Good evening Leon , just a  large draft of Canadian tonight.Just finishe a whole lot of real paperwork ( crew evaluation time againAngry [:(!] ) alway's puts me in a foul mood.

Tom-Got the email's I shall respond tomorrow once I've got back in from work,but sounds good Thumbs Up [tup]

 Two of those photo's were mine the Tempo was from gramps or one I bought can't remember nowConfused [%-)] ( don't say it think it but don't say it Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] )

Good read on the B&O again,I don't think this time around there will be any arguements over the floodlights and what the proper name and terminology is for them.

Pete-Loved today's photo's, the little launch was neat as well. My sister is enjoying her alst couple month's of seeing Pikes Peak from her kitchen window. They're deployment to Colorado Springs is up and they are comming back to Canada. they still get mountains though as they are posting back to Comox BC.

 If you ever go out there take a ride on that cog railway up the mountain it's a neat experiance.

 I don't know if anyone really is that cognicent of the lost electric railway infrastructure. I find that alot of the tree huggers view any kind of rail travels as bad as it blights the countryside. At list the really militant one's are like that.The same people probabnly think that horseback will have to big a carbon footprint as well,screw em I say ( ask me how I really feelBig Smile [:D]

 I'd have to look up the info but I believe it was Westinghouse that supplied Adam Beck One and Two with their generation equipment. I imagine the answer lies in Wikipedia ( maybe several )

Eric-Some nice out the window shots today Thumbs Up [tup]

I think that you will find that most of Alco's century models had that distinct V cab front shape. I always liked it , much nicer than the plain vanilla cabs EMD produced. Sounds like an interesting book you're putting up for the book relay this fall.

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 6, 2008 10:33 AM

Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.

 

G'day Gents! 

Closed we are - but always time to get a leg up on the comments to those who took the time ‘n made the effort to stop in . . .

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Saturday - April 5th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 7 - Pete <pwolfe> at 11:45 AM: Good to see our Bar Chandler on a Saturday morning! Thumbs Up [tup] Surely can't begrudge anyone wishing to take advantage of warmer temps along with a SUNSHINE weekend! Yeah!! [yeah]

Avis ‘n Hertz, along with the airlines, were very, very clever with the inroads they made by "pushing" their modes of transportation directed at the passenger rail traveler. Obviously, the results speak for themselves. Thumbs Down [tdn] But, the handwriting was on the wall as the automobile ‘n highways pretty much captivated the population after WWII. Then, who could argue with long-distance travel by aircraft - cross the country in hours as opposed to days. Hands down winner for them . . . . <barf> But, understandable . . .

Enjoyed your spate of six fotos - especially the one's from Pike's Peak. Don't know whether that sign was the same as I viewed in 1953, but it did bring back some memories. I've NEVER forgotten the height of that mountain - kinda became etched in my young mind at 14,110 ft. Ahhhhhhhh, the trivia that gets stored away in the grey matter, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Yes, traveling aboard "The City of New Orleans" is something we can plan on! Yeah!! [yeah] HOWEVER, keep in mind that summer down that-a-way is OPPRESSIVE in terms of humidity ‘n heat. Best done in spring or fall - even winter.

Nice inclusive Post ‘n of course the ROUND is appreciated too! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 7 - Eric <EricX2000> at 7:48 PM: Found that info I mentioned about the Forum's "slow down" during the wee hours:

From a Post by Bergie 03-20-2008, 3:31 PM on the Trains.com Forum:

Re: What's going on with the Forum?

One more thing, related to the question of forum speed...

If you're posting between 1 and 3 am, the forum will be slow. There's daily maintenance that takes place at that time, and it will have an impact on forum speed.

Other than that, I'm not sure about the forum speed issue. I typically don't see any noticeable change in speed. We have T1 here at work, and I have high-speed cable at home. Plus, I run security software that keeps my computer clean.

If you are having problems, and you are on a high-speed connection, do you do anything to keep your computer clean? (Security software to protect against adaware, spyware, etc., as well as the occasional deleting of temporary internet files?)

With an unlimited number of variables that any one user can choose, it's almost impossible to pinpoint where a problem is stemming from. If it's a once in a while issue, who knows... like today for example, I wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA tournament is having an impact on overall Internet speed. If it's every single time you visit our site, and you have high-speed access, that makes me wonder. I have high speed too, and I don't see these problems (and when at home, I seeing the site the same way you would). Those are the times I wonder if it's on the user's end. I don't want to go pointing the finger and accusing anyone of not taking care of their own equipment. Dump your history, temporary internet files, defragment, etc., and see if it makes a difference.

Again, there are so many variables... computer platform (PC/Mac), computer operating system, computer RAM, browser, internet connection speed, security software... it goes on and on. Chances are, no two members of this forum have the exact same configuration. Plus, what's going on around you. You can have high speed access and still be affected by what's going on around you (i.e. are you on a wireless connection?; is there a kid in your neighborhood downloading music and movies and clogging up your pipe?).

My guys are looking to see if there are any signs of problems on this end. But when they start grilling me and ask if I've experienced any of the same problems, I unfortunately have to say no.

Bergie


Erik Bergstrom
Internet Publishing Manager
Trains.com

Good news regarding the ratio of pictures to narrative for the next RR BOOK RELAY! Thumbs Up [tup] Maybe we'll be able to ‘round up the entire "core" group for this one. Yeah!! [yeah]

LOVE that cab shot approaching the trestle - WELL DONE, Mate for all of your fotos! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Train wrecks with fatalities are never pleasant memories. Lots of life's hopes ‘n dreams shattered with that one, eh Question [?]

Odd how "that" works when the bride is away for awhile, things left behind require MORE time ‘n attention. Just goes to show how much they're missed. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

IF the coughing doesn't quit by Rendezvous III - carry on without me. You know where to visit! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Many thanx for the fine chat, fotos ‘n ROUND! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Page 8 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:28 PM: Turned the Page to EIGHT ‘n there appeared our Manager! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Yeah, that "floodlight-headlight" nonsense should've been an indicator of things to come . . . talk about closed mind! <yikes> Figured you'd recall that one. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

The only time I was in Colorado Springs was in 1953 as part of my cross-country rail trip from New York City to Santa Ana, CA for a Boy Scout Jamboree. I was a 15 year old Explorer Scout in those times. Pike's Peak was a blast - we "did it" by Cadillac limo. Did check out the tram, but no rides. It IS indeed one of the more picturesque locales in this country. By the by, that trip was BEFORE the USAF built their Academy. Yeah, I'm oooooooooold. <grin> <groan>

Whoever came up with this "carbon footprint" gimmick has surely "fed" those who wrist-wring over pretty much everything these days. Appears we both have similar feelings on it. Thumbs Down [tdn]

Appreciate the visit ‘n will look for your Email! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Emporium Theatre listings later today . . .

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, April 6, 2008 2:15 PM

"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs  

 

Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

 

. . . April 6th thru 12th: The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) Starring: Brad Pitt, Mary-Louise Parker, Brooklynn Proulx, Dustin Bollinger & Casey Affleck - and - ENCORE PRESENTATION of Mr. Baseball (1992) Starring: Tom Selleck, Ken Takakura, Aya Takanashi, Dennis Haysbert & Toshi Shioya. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Three Loan Wolves (1946).

<Note: Mr. Baseball first shown on Sunday, June 11th thru 17th, 2006>

 

 

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)

PLOT SUMMARY:

Everyone in 1880s America knows Jesse James. He's the nation's most notorious criminal, hunted by the law in 10 states. He's also the land's greatest hero, lauded as a Robin Hood by the public. Robert Ford? No one knows him. Not yet. But the ambitious 19-year-old aims to change that. He'll befriend Jesse, ride with his gang. And if that doesn't bring Ford fame, he'll find a deadlier way. Friendship becomes rivalry and the quest for fame becomes obsession in this virile epic produced in part by Ridley Scott and featuring gripping portrayals by Brad Pitt (winner of the Venice Film Festival Best Actor Award) as Jesse and Casey Affleck as the youth drawn closer to his goal and farther from his own humanity.

<from: amazon.com>

 

Mr. Baseball (1992)

PLOT SUMMARY:

Tom Selleck stars in this hilarious comedy about a veteran major leaguer who attempts to revive his fading baseball career by signing to play in Japan.

Aging superstar Jack Elliot (Selleck) just isn't hitting them like he used to. In fact, the only pro ball club willing to sign him is the Chunichi Dragons...in Nagoya, Japan. Cultures clash immediately when Jack hits town and proceeds to alienate everyone with his arrogance. But through the friendship of teammate Max "Hammer" DuBois (Dennis Haysbert, "Far from Heaven") and the love of the team's beautiful translator, Jack finds a way to fit in and win in this heartwarming, action-packed comedy from director Fred Schepisi.  

<from: amazon.com>

 

SHORT: The Three Stooges - Three Loan Wolves (1946)

PLOT SUMMARY:

The Stooges are pawnbrokers with a sassy son who wants to know why he has three fathers. This leads into a flashback. It seems the the moll of gangster Butch McGee left a baby with Larry. The Stooges tend toward unorthodox child care methods, such as a loaded gun for a pacifier and a large milk bottle with a glove on it. McGee enters the Stooges' store and a fight ensues. After the story, the boy leaves to find his mother and Larry is punished by the other Stooges.

<from: threestooges.net>

 

Enjoy the weekend! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Sunday, April 6, 2008 7:43 PM

Well evening all my lovely little lambkins-Just like Bergie I`m in to do some `housekeeping` Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]........(just teasing)

O.K-where are we-(one of my regular early morning questions)-oh yes,sunday once again,so as its nice and quiet I can sit back with a wee drinkie and catch up on some post -Boris-you and Copperkettle go and clean & polish things-and dont get in H&H`s way-keep an eye out for the delivery van-looks like the bed in the `managers office` is beyond repair-fair play LARS-when it comes to staff wage rises,you strike a hard bargain-I take my hat off to you sir !!!!!!!!

Well now-have been celebrating Missisnick`s birthday -21 again (plus 19) and all is well with the world-is snowing fit to bust here-for us ,snow is a rare and welcome visitor-whoopee,a day off-hmmm-starting to wander-drinking wine instead of beer tonight-not a great fan but can see the attraction-more bang for your buck ,as it were.....................

O.K-lets focus here...

PETE-love the `rail blue` diesels-not a fan of the livery but the whole pic set  just oozes atmosphere-I think the worst application of that livery had to be the V.o.R steamers (general note-the Prince of Wales,Llewellyn and Owain Glendywr on the little Vale of Rheidol line were the only steam engines to wear the B.R corporate blue livery-and it REALLY didnt suit)

As to the Aveling & Porter engines-I believe the one I am thinking of worked for the Blue Circle Portland cement company at one time & may well have been named `blue circle`-could that be it   ??

ROB-Tune in to next fridays` webcast to catch us playing `Strange brew`and plenty more in a similar mould-my personal favourite is the old R.Johnson thing-Crossroads,although that is unlikely to make it into the set-have a video of the CREAM re-union show at the royal Albert Hall-some of it is up on U-tube as well-a fine performance-nuff said

It occurs to me ,from all those fine traction pix that you have posted ,that there is huge potential for a minimum space layout there-an `L` shape-a cityscape for the long board with some degree of auto running with odd little boxcabs pushing freight cars into sidings and a country section on the short leg with a car shed and all the ameneties built around a terminal---wandering again-the tight radii of street track would work here to keep things nice and narrow-get an oval of H.0 track down to about 18 "

ERIC-Anything by Willie Nelson is good with me-now there is a man who tells it like it is-Am starting to develop a real fondness for the dark,dark humour in country music-more on little diddy wagons-they were mostly built without any sort of continuous brakes and with 3-link hook&chain couplings-a real tricky task to get `em rolling and harder still to keep them so-I understand that a good driver would shut off at the outer distant signal,let the train catch up & then `pick up the slack` in the couplings a little bit at a time when the banner dropped-an art lost on those who live in the world of the knuckle coupler..............

PETE-that narrow boat is a pure beauty Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg],as is the camel back Approve [^]

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-what ho old mate-Hey-me ..serious-**** mate-the only thing I am serious about just now is you shakin off that bug thats got you-bothers me when my good buddies are under the cosh-I dont sleep well..................

ERIC-So how do you want your steak-we can do everything from `blue` to `completely buggered`-would recommend medium rare with sides of onion rings ,mushrooms stuffed with pate,grilled toms,and home fries plus a crisspy clean salad platter with a plump jacket potato available instead of the fries

 

Fine pix from the old country btw-looks like very sandy soil-I would imagine it is hard work to raise any sort of crop there    ?

O.K-time for bed -have a good week end one and all-thats me done-O-K-bedtime--"But it`s all right now,in fact it`s a gas,......it`s all right-I`m jumping jack flash its a gas gas gas

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"Our" Place <est 12 Apr 2005> Adults talking Classic Trains!
Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 7, 2008 6:49 AM

<personal foto>

 

A smile to begin the week!

Pair up in threes!

<A Yogi-ism!>

G'day Gents!

Here we are again - Monday! Time to fill up those coffee mugs, check out The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n take a look at our Menu Board featuring <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts! Yeah!! [yeah]

A glorious spring weekend with comfortable temps, blue skies 'n things in bloom. Just an all 'round nice couple of days. Then of course the petrol prices rose to $3.28 <rounded> just to snap us all back to reality . . . <ugh>

Rendezvous III is "right 'round the corner," with arrivals slated for May 14th! Yeah!! [yeah]  Cardinal's tix are "in" - row 12, right behind the Card's dugout. Can't beat that, eh Question [?] Youbetcha! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Cards are on the wing with a 5 game winning streak - but it IS far too early to chortle. Just a good start for 'em. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):

Sunday - April 6th <all times Central daylite>:

Page 8 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:43 PM <1:43 AM Monday GMT>: A rare Sunday visit from our Resident Londoner in Wales! Thumbs Up [tup] Have to admit it's "nice" to have a "note" slipped through the mail slot on the door on Sunday . . . just a reminder that we still have one or two "out there" who give that proverbial Rat's Patoot about the Watering Hole by the Wayside! Yeah!! [yeah]

Belated Happy B-Day [bday] wishes to your lady! And many, many MORE! Happy B-Day [bday] Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow] Wow!! [wow]

Appreciate the concern - but don't let it keep you awake. <geesh> I'll get over this - give it a couple of more months! <yikes> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Spent a bit of time these past weeks giving it a "go" on the Can-Am subway system. Most of the effort has been with the station - takes lots of time. Anyway, while in the trainroom, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, The Oak Ridge Boys, The Bellamy Brothers ‘n many others provide the musical interludes for the background. Yeah!! [yeah] Willie is "the man"! Thumbs Up [tup]

Treading on thin ice with comments regarding our Senior Manager <Emeritius> the Larsman! <uh oh> And just WHAT were you doing in the Manager's Office up in the Penthouse Suite Question [?] Hmmmmmmm. Interlude on a Sunday . . . well, why not! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Many thanx for the good humor, good cheer ‘n support for the bar! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM Dinner [dinner] so come early ‘n often! Yeah!! [yeah]

Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Yeah!! [yeah]

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by coalminer3 on Monday, April 7, 2008 8:24 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, p[lease; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  We had 10 minutes of sunlight yesterday morning and then the clouds rolled back.  It is supposed to be cool for the rest of the week and then some more rain followed by a possibility of snow on Sunday.  Gas is at $3.45 right now, or it was when I took the "One Hoss Shay" (no Boris, the vehicle, not the locomotive) in for a belt transplant, oil change, and inspection sticker.  Now all that's let is to go to the DMV and get my 1x1" decal for the license plate; that sucker costs $45. 

Yes, the Cardinals are doing o.k. which is more than I can say for the Olde Towne Team.  They have an 18K road trip to start things off, get the day off today and then play 21 games in the next 20 days.  Even so that was an ugly performance in Toronto.   

Lars - Good to hear from you.  That is a nice selection of IC books.  The IC North video is a good one; part of a two-tape set.

Pete was in with vintage diesel pictures and comments.  ATK power assignments (ideally) are dictated by terrain and number of cars operating on the train.  For example 50 and 51 take one locomotive for up to 10 cars.  More than 10, another unit is added.  The reason for this is that there is some very rugged country east of here.  Eric beat me to the punch; the locomotive is indeed former Lackawanna power; as he said one of the few left.  IIRC, it was formerly owned by the R&LHS who brokered some kind of deal (in the long ago) with the museum.

Allan stopped in with comments.

Nick - Good tunes.  I enjoyed the picture of the band, especially your "invisible drummer."  BTW, check out the "Kentucky Headhunters" if you like bar music - good stuff; especially "Walk Softly on This Heart of Mine," and "Dumas Walker."

Rob was in with comments and electric history.   Westinghouse did all sorts of contract electrical work for just about everybody.

Eric - Great pictures!  I did a little more checking into Genesis problems; the ever-popular traction motor sickness and ground fault problems.  There's something, as you know, that'll drive you crazy as they never happen at a (not the quotes) "good time."

OSP was by with some excellent B&O material.  I was browsing through Steam, Steel and Limiteds the other night and spent a bit of time looking at their B&O coverage.  As a word to the group, that book is well worth the effort to try and find. 

Rental car material would be in the 1950s.  Long before that, however, the New Haven ran ads in their winter timetables exhorting people the "Ship Their Cars to Florida."  This would, of course, have been in regular freight service.  Long before Auto Train, the B&O ran auto carriers (bilevel racks) on the back of some of their trains.  The commission material was put in there for the benefit of ticket agents, the primary audience of the ORG.

Looks like new ‘moom pichers at the Theatuh.  Have not seen the first one - looks good.

Speaking of which, we have lost another film icon in Charlton Heston.  Boris is used to people telling him, "Take your paws off me."

Work safe

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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, April 7, 2008 11:10 AM

Morning Ruth, a large thermos of the BK blast and a number three if you don't mind.As always keep the change for your "trip" jarWhistling [:-^] Oh Boris amke sure the critters are fed,you may wish to take some sandpaer to the trays you use for Artie,Awk and Frostbite though,you guys did sucha good shinning job last night that I'm affraid they might attack their reflections <uh oh >Since you were a good cyclops ( no breakage over the weekend ) you can have a large jar of PPFApprove [^]

Tom-Two good movie choices Thumbs Up [tup] Mr Baseball is espeacially funny and a good choice given the time of year Thumbs Up [tup]My birds are off to a decent start as well , but again it's far to early for anyone to be alarmed.Haven't got the email out yet twas a busy worked all weekend type of weekend Sigh [sigh]

I see we are cut of the same cloth re carbon footprints,what's that you say  about screw em all but sixWhistling [:-^]Big Smile [:D]Sounds like you got an "in" to get that good of seats for the ballgameWhistling [:-^]

Nick-I shall have to look into the next webcast can you give the link again Question [?] Continuing on with various brian droppings,most modern HO traction equipment will handle 18" radius curevs and  most can be tweeked for tighter say 15's so have at it sir Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3-A fine Hi good morning to you as well. Cool [8D]As I said to Tom much to early in the season to get to much alarm about the season,all things being equal the standings should end up pretty much the same this year as last.

Well folks I'm off to  work again,I shall return again this evening with more "thots"

A couple shots in parting from Cass scenic,looks like someone wormed their way into the cab as well.

Rob

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, April 7, 2008 2:10 PM

G'day Gents!

Thanx to CM3 Shane 'n Rob we managed to survive this Monday morning . . . now, to see what the PM brings. Thumbs Up [tup]

Here's something to keep the B&O interest level "up" . . . .

 

Now Arriving on Track #1

Back in the Day - Number Seventeen

Baltimore & Ohio's Royal Blue

 

 

 

 

The Royal Blue was the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad (B&O)'s flagship passenger train between New York City and Washington, D.C. in the United States, beginning in 1890. The Baltimore-based B&O also used its name between 1890 and 1917 for its improved passenger service between New York and Washington launched in the 1890s, collectively dubbed the Royal Blue Line. Using variants such as the Royal Limited and Royal Special for individual Royal Blue trains, the B&O operated the service in partnership with the Reading Railroad and the Central Railroad of New Jersey. Principal intermediate cities served were Philadelphia, Wilmington, and Baltimore. Later, as Europe reeled from the carnage of World War I and connotations of European royalty fell into disfavor, the B&O discreetly omitted the sobriquet Royal Blue Line from its New York passenger service and the Royal Blue disappeared from B&O timetables. Beginning in 1917, former Royal Blue Line trains were renamed: the Royal Limited (inaugurated on May 15, 1898), for example, became the National Limited. During the Depression, the B&O hearkened back to the halcyon pre-World War I era when it launched a re-christened Royal Blue train between New York and Washington in 1935. The B&O finally discontinued all passenger service north of Baltimore on April 26, 1958, and the Royal Blue faded into history. <from: Wikipedia.com>

 

B&O Royal Blue on the B&O Thomas Viaduct, south of Baltimore, Maryland, in a posed 1937 foto. <Public Domain>

 

 

Royal Blue dining car menu - 1950 <Public Domain>

 

 

B&O Royal Blue locomotives, EA-EB #51 in 1937. <Foto credit: © Bruce C. Greenberg, 1990>

 

 

B&O Royal Blue final run - 1958 from Jersey City. <Foto credit: Don Wood/Wikipedia.com>

 

 

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Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

 

 

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Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by pwolfe on Monday, April 7, 2008 2:49 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Holden's please RUTHThumbs Up [tup]

TOM Many thanks for the B&O Fallen Flag,the drumheads and The Royal BlueThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. I too remember reading about the Strata-dome and the floodlights. I wonder if any one took some cine film in the car of the floodlights in actionQuestion [?], perhaps it might turn up on U-Tube one day.Approve [^]. The paint scheme on the cars on the Royal Blue really match with the Streamliner in that photoWow!! [wow]Bow [bow], trully a classic trainApprove [^].Looking at the 1950 menu has made me hungryYeah!! [yeah]. I would love to try the Bread Custard PuddingApprove [^], but I do not know what 'Sanka and Postum' areDunce [D)].  

The main one who took advantage of this nice weekend weather wise was the brideSigh [sigh], getting me to work in the yard, mainly moving rocks and other heavy thingsShock [:O] to get the house looking better after that basement work a while back, still it was good for the soul if not for the backBig Smile [:D].

Yes I suppose with the interstates and the affordable air travel the railroads did not really stand much of a chance with long distance passenger travel in the U.S.Sad [:(]

Seeing those photos of Pike's Peak reminded me it was after the trip to the summit that the camera that I landed on in Denver gave up workingSigh [sigh].

I had forgotten about the heat in New OrleansShock [:O] perhaps a wintertime visit would be best.Thumbs Up [tup]

Two good films on at the Emporium this weekApprove [^] We were hoping to see The Assassination of Jesse James when it was on at the cinemas but missed itSigh [sigh]. Mr. Baseball sounds a film I would enjoy as wellYeah!! [yeah] and of course the Stooges.Big Smile [:D] 

ERIC Many thanks for the info on the DL&W CamelbackThumbs Up [tup]. I though it could have been the Museum of Transportation at St Louis, has I had been there on an earlier visit, but I did not recognize the building in the background.Confused [%-)]

If I recall it was not too cold the day we traveled up to Pike's PeakApprove [^]. Did you see any sort of gopher size animals on the way up there seemed to be a quite a few about near the railway on the day we were there.Question [?]

Glad you enjoyed the canal barge photosThumbs Up [tup], I have a few more if you would like to see them.Yeah!! [yeah]. Living as I did backing on to the Oxford Canal a canal vacation seemed very popular with North American visitors a few years back, as you say it is a soothing vacation traveling along at 4MPH and visiting the local canal side pubs after mooring up for the night.Approve [^]

Many thanks for the great photosApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. Did they find out what caused the accident at GetaQuestion [?].In the second from last photo on the left is that a branch line that as been removed or is it a new line waiting to be connected to the main line, do you knowQuestion [?]. That is an interesting signal in the last photo.

ROB Thanks for the kind words on the photosThumbs Up [tup]. When I was young those barges were very numerous passing the back of the house pulling another un-powered barge (called a ‘Butty') along the Oxford canal carrying coal for LondonThumbs Up [tup]. Today there is probably as many barges but they are all used as pleasure boats although some are lived in all year round by folks. Some still have the original slow speed diesel engines with their unmistakable slow BOP BOP BOP sound.Approve [^]

It must be wonderful to be able to see that marvelous scenery around Pike's Peak from one's window.Yeah!! [yeah]

Many thanks for the photos of the Cass locomotiveThumbs Up [tup]; the locomotive especially the cylinder area is very cleanApprove [^]

I too find it hard how so many people object to a rail line but don't seem to mind a new roadThumbs Down [tdn]. I wonder how many of those militant ‘Tree Huggers' refuse to use electricity or ride in a motor vehicle because of their principles, not many I bet.

NICKHappy B-Day [bday]Happy B-Day [bday]Happy B-Day [bday] To Missisnick.Thumbs Up [tup]

Glad you enjoyed the photosThumbs Up [tup]. It seems a bit strange now,but there is quite a bit of nostalgia about the time when everything was in BR blue, but I agree it never suited those V of R locomotivesThumbs Down [tdn]. With those locomotives it is very often forgotten the BR owned and ran steam locomotive after the standard gauge steam finished on BR in 1968.

Just yesterday I saw photo in a steam railway magazine of the site of Northwich shed where the photo of the class 25 and 40 were taken, today it is a housing estate.Sad [:(]

YesThumbs Up [tup] I have had another look at the Aveling & Porter photo and zoomed in and it is The Blue Circle now you have said the name, I can make the Circle part out, it was great to see her working.Approve [^]

As you say there was a great deal of skill in working a loose coupled goods train Bow [bow]

CM3 Yes the camelback looks in great conditionApprove [^]. Thanks for the info on the allocation of power for a train depending on load and the grades the train will faceThumbs Up [tup]. In steam days, on BR, each steam locomotive class had a load limit for each route they regularly worked on and if it was over this, the driver could demand a pilot locomotive if one was not already allocated. Did the major stations here have a standby locomotive in steam days in case the locomotive on a train was struggling, as was the practice on BRQuestion [?].

Sigh [sigh]The ever-elusive ground fault problem, I remember them well.Banged Head [banghead].

 I read the Severn Valley Railway has re-opened its whole length againThumbs Up [tup] after the disasterous floods of last JuneSad [:(]. A couple of photos on the SVR Thumbs Up [tup].

  

BR Standard 9F class 2-10-0 No. 92212 ready to depart from Kidderminster Town station for a trip along the Severn Valley.

92212 running round its train, at the other end of the SVR, at Bridgnorth. When new No.92212 was new she was allocated to Banbury shed, where, no doubt, she would have worked the iron ore trains from the local quarries to the South Wales steelworks. 

Well RUTH a round pleaseThumbs Up [tup]

Pete.

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Monday, April 7, 2008 6:16 PM

What Ho chaps !!-I trust we have all had a satisfactory start to the week ??

The snow here has vanished as quickly as it arrived,although the weather continues to be as cold as charity-spring in Wales-gotta love it Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

So-drinks for the boys please Leon,take one for yourself mate and I`ll have a Starop with a large rum to keep away the chill-better take a handfull of change for Herr Wurlitzer-something mellow tonight I think-how about Norah Jones ? -If you`ve never listened to her,I warmly recommend you do Approve [^]

Right-to business....

Pirate [oX)]Captain [4:-)]TOM-Many thanks from herself for the birthday wishes,the day was acclaimed to be a great success........Love that K.C.S header shot,very classy Thumbs Up [tup]-   Glad to hear work proceeds on the subway-looking forward to seeing the results,speaking of pix-enjoyed that selection from the trainroom last week-that Berkshire looks like a wonderful bit of kit-unbelievably fine flanges on those wheels-had always assumed it was a hi-rail (is that the term ?) kind of thing-evidently not....especially enjoyed the view of the trainroom as a whole-you have a little empire there that a man can take a degree of quiet pride in Approve [^]

Todays B+O piece was a nice one-that `Royal Blue` steamer is/was a thing of beauty-good call !!

CM3-Glad the `Shay` passed muster for another season Thumbs Up [tup] will check out the Headhunters when time allows-believe me-our drummer is best left invisible Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

ROB-Nice pix there mate-what a brutal bit of kit-one doesn`t realise the sheer size of the thing`til you see it like that--Not sure,but I think the gig can be found at the Castle cafe/Cellar bar ,Cardigan site-if it`s not some sort of myspace thingy-will find out & get back to you....

PETE-Thanks also for B/Day wishes Thumbs Up [tup]--Mention of barges calls to mind todays pop trivia item-Ronnie Wood is from a long line of bargee`s working out of Paddington basin,glad we got the A&P loco pinned down Big Smile [:D]-and good to hear the S.V.R is back in business-a line I have yet to travel sadly  Sad [:(]

O.K-how about some pix to kick-start the week............

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Here we have the Bagnall "conversion" to follow up PETE`s pic from last week...

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Here is an immaculate `Lydham Manor` at Paignton last summer

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Here is the observation car at Kingswear-Alan trying & failing to get out of shot.....

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Aberystwith now-and here we have a large chunk of `Owain Glendywr` awaiting some major work ...!

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Aber again-across the platform from the steam train we have this mobile bill board......

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`Prince of Wales`& a prince among men-my late father in law admires the view at Devils Bridge,just prior to returning to Aber

Right-thats me done-an early night I think-see you all soon,take care

Chef [C=:-)]

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