You're being too literal, CSS. And the steel rail still ain't heard the news.
CSSHEGEWISCH Gramp Penny a point... ain't no one keepin' score. As Steve Goodman would point out, wrong train.
Gramp Penny a point... ain't no one keepin' score.
Penny a point... ain't no one keepin' score.
Same passing time activities happen wherever less than full real time attention to duties happens - CNO or Crescent or any other train of limited patronage.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
zugmann So we're just guessing
So we're just guessing
Does anyone actually ride that train?
So we're just guessing?
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NS apparently caused another bad day - night for #20 /12 Oct. Instead of the 3 hours carded from Anniston to ATL took seven hours. From Anniston to almost Howell CP speed never exceeded 30 MPH. Lost almost 5 hours instead of 2 (best tiime)1 - 3/4. Almost like it followed a freight from Anniston to Howell. Then # 20 lost an additional 2 - 1/2 hours at Howell. Probably CSX blocking at Howell but not positive. Left ATL at 07'04. For today only a one time day train from ATL = WASH.
For the last couple weeks Crescent has mostly been on time . But, #20 / 11 Oct took a 1-1/2 hour delay at Howell CP due to CSX blocking the crossing.
All good things will come to an end. A stella on time performance the last few week south of ATL and and mainly north of of Atlanta.
#20 hit a predestrian just SW of BHM. Took a 1 hour delay and another 2 hours at BHN probably mechanical work or swaping locos. Arrived ATL 3:47 late t 0247. Problem is that inbound #20 crew takes #19 out of ATL. Amtrak not yet posted but 19 probably will not leave before 11:17 instead of 0908.
this NS handling of the Crescent is getting rediculous. 20/11 sep once again TCL seems apex of of delays. arrived TCL 44 late left 43 late and arrived BHM 18 minutes early. So that leg has at least 1:01 schedule slop. Other times 19 and 20 loose time between TCL and BHM. 97 miles.
#20/11 arrived ATL 15 early.
19 and 20 another good day south of ATL Aug 21st. Delays as usual somewhere between BHM - Laurel but arrivals NOL and ATL OK.
All these recent posts indicate you might have to start a new thread, or retitle this one to something like 'Amtrak now knifing through Atlanta' rather than getting stabbed there.
EDIT -- well done!
Once again the 1:30+ schedule padding between Laurel and BHM is allowing for some on time operations. 19/18th arrived NOL close to on time 20/ 19th arrived 10 early ATL after arriving TCL 44 late. Unfortunately 20 now late at Gainesville 1:15 due to tresspasser.
Did not catch 19/13 but 20 / 13 no more than 25 late at TCL again all other stations less . Arrived ATL early.
Cannot believe it #20 / 11 not over 8 minutes late all way to ATL except 44 late at TCL. Left ATL on time. What has happened at NS dispatch?
Moving this to proper topic section.
What in the world is going on with the Cresecents NOL <> ATL?. For the last 2 days they have been within less than 10 minutes late. Today 20 has left BHM on time anniston 6 late and 19 is approaching Slidel a couple minutes late. Still time to delay to NOL and ATL and will be checking. CSX just waiting to delay 20 an hour or more at ATL CP Howell.
This OTP is certainly not the usual Crescent's delays both ways have almost always taken 2 - 3 hour delays since Jan 1.
19/8 is running late south of ATL but was Amtrak's fault delaying it at WASH.
My posts about Crescent's on time south of ATL should be moved to this subject line.
oltmannd The Crescent has been uber reliable north of Atlanta since COVID. Almost never late a significant amount.
The Crescent has been uber reliable north of Atlanta since COVID. Almost never late a significant amount.
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Here it is July 4th and nationwide only 19 is over 2 hours late again. Been over 2 hours late after Anniston all the way to Hattiesburg
Just to beat a dead hourse again. 19 and 20 Crescents are still taking most of their delays south of ATL. For instance today both 19 and 20 lost over an hour each way betweel Tuscaloosa, Al and Meridian, Ms. NS just does not see to have enough infrastructure for freights and passenger trains south of Atlanta.
This portioon of the route seems a good candiate for the proposed on time operation penalties.?
Again #20 tonight 3:12 late at Anniston. Now it has been delayed just before Howell CP for already 1:30 . No information if it is because of NS or more probably a CSX freight blocking the CP ?
EDIT: Final delay 2:05 anniston - ATL
Another bad day today. Despite fewer delays nationwide the Crescent is still getting more delays south of CLT.. #19 over 5 hours late in Mississippi tonight. and #20 1+ hours late north of ATL.
For month of FEB 4:05 late at Slidel. Note some what less late at NOL due to schedule padding.
Had to really not wanted to revive this thread. However it is getting worse. For Calendar year 2020 so far arrivals of #19 at NOL are average of 2:37 late . That is with an average of gaining :25 minutes slidel - NOL. (3:02 avg late sdl ). Now 20 arrivals at ATL 2:12 average late. Crescent is loosing about 20 - 30 minutes each way ATL - CLT. # 19 has had a fairly good arrival at CLT averaging just :15 minutes late.
This is NS's worse route. Even though there are more trains in Michigan and Indiana the total minutes delayed are more on the Crescent.
Amtrak 20/20 is now 13:53 late at Spartanburg. NS gettting away with murder?
UPDATE: Crescent Train 20 which departed New Orleans (NOL) on 2/20 is currently operating about 7 hr 10 min late due to weather-related delays, mechanical issues, and Norfolk Southern Freight Train interference along the route.
Not all of delay due to NS as a car on track delaying 19/20 as well. Appears NS let freight trains stack up behind the car causing # 20/20 no way to get around freights? However it will make 20/22 late out of NOL unless Amtrak can pull a rabbit out of the hat.
EDIT: 20 lost 6:35 between Greenville and Greer. 19/20 lost 2:01 at same location.
For most days of Jan the Crescent is not meeting max speeds north of Atlanta. Several days check showed them not exceeding 70 MPH and mostly not over 60 MPH.
Tonight ATL - GNS not even over 51 MPH and ended up over an hour late at GNS. What is going on?
After several false starts train finally began moving consistently aat about 1:50AM near Lenox square. Is now almost 6:00 late1!
Update: Cresent Train 20 which departed Atlanta on 1/23 is currently operating about 4hr 30min late due to an engine problem which has now been fixed outside of (ATL).
Tonight Crescent #20 cannot get out of Atlanta. Its 8:04 departure was announced as finally leaving ATl 2 hours late. However it only made about 1-1/2 miles and has not moved as of 11"54. Here is original post announcing departure from ATL. This is not in anyway NS's fault. More problems with Amtrak P-42s. Cannot wait for SC-44s finally on LD trains? Wonder if NS will provide a leader tonight?
Update: Cresent Train 20 which departed Atlanta on 1/23 is now on the move currently operating about 2hr late due to an engine problem which has now been fixed outside of (ATL).
EDIT; Has not even made it past the Marta yard about 1 mile from Amtrak station.
December is much worse. As previously posted the trains north of ATL are all taking hits especially ATL <> CLT. A spot check for month shows all trains ATL <> CLT loosing about 45 - 60 minutes and only one or two times any Crescent showing train traveling over 60 MPH. The only bright spot was the trains beat schedule almost every trip Gastonia - Greensboro 30 - 45 minutes probably due to NCDOT's completion of complete two main tracking.
Did not count NYP - WASH due to Amtrak meeting schedule south bound and saving up to 1 hour north bound. This is a NS caused problem except for many CSX delays just south of ATL station.
28 RT trains operated in December. Here are delays
19. ATL 2 early 1:45 Average 1:32 Median.
NOL 1 early 3:51 Average 3:21 Median. 7 over 5 hours late which caused delays for next day's 20 departures.
20. ATL 1 early 2:38 Average 2:31 median
WAS 0 early 3:43 Average 3:47 Median
Looks bad for NS does't it ?
Contrast that with 7 at SEA AVG :08 MED :02
8 at CHI avg:36 M :03
49 CHI A -1:17 M - 1:14
48 NYP A - :56 M - :20
We cannot any longer fault the other known trains for delay compared with NS. BTW The Crescents for several Christmas time days were later than any other Amtrak train - LD , SD, and NEC !
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