alphas Phoebe Vet: In my metropolitan area, dominated by one of the largest eatern colleges, we have plenty of NIMBYS and just about all of them have OBAMA and VOTE DEMOCRAT bumper stickers on their cars!
Phoebe Vet:
In my metropolitan area, dominated by one of the largest eatern colleges, we have plenty of NIMBYS and just about all of them have OBAMA and VOTE DEMOCRAT bumper stickers on their cars!
I would hardly consider Barrington (see opposition to CN/EJ&E merger and Metra's Circle Route) to be a bastion of liberalism. Snobbery, perhaps but hardly liberalism.
Guys:
I didn't say a word about Republicans vs Democrats.
I said conservative as in "because that's the way we've always done it." You know: "100 years of tradition unimpeded by progress."
Dave
Lackawanna Route of the Phoebe Snow
Dam*! I was born in New Jersey (Muhlenberg Hospital [which has since gone out of business because of unpaid bills from the "indigents"], in Plainfield, Hudson County [which extracted more in taxes from the Central Railroad of New Jersey than it garnered in the entire state]). We moved to Charlotte, NC when I was four. I'm glad I didn't stay there! I really don't like snakes! Guess you won't be interested in my "Phoebe Snow" stories from Madison. I'm sure they aren't PC.
Hays
I lived in NY for most of my life where I saw lots of rattle snakes and a couple of copperheads. Now I have lived in Charlotte for 17 years and I have yet to see a snake. I know we have them but we must not be over run with them, or they are all hiding from me.
As for Phoebe Snow; I didn't like her music much anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uShtB_hIgmE
I think what's most frustrating about the U of MN situation to me is that they whined and complained about wanting the originally planned line moved, and then once they go their way, started to complain even worse about the new routing that basically they had chosen. Keep in mind not only as a previous poster mentioned, TCRT streetcars used to run along the same line, they actually used to run on campus - there's still a big "roundabout" type road on campus where U of MN route streetcars would drop off and pick up students and U workers.
I'd have preferred a line more like the present Hiawatha line, with a dedicated right-of-way and fewer stops. The on-street streetcars were OK until the suburbs started to explode after WW2, then the lack of a separate right-of-way made the streetcars too slow...and of course, once the interstate highways came along it magnified the problem. Plus the streetcar line going to the south ended at the Minneapolis border, so they would have had to build new lines to the booming suburbs of Richfield and Bloomington.
Yes, the north end of the main campus has a roundabout that was originally a loop for the Intercampus Trolley. I think it was some of the last trolleys to run as I can remember the cars running in my childhood. And yes the trolleys ran thru both sides of campus.
And this is the University that couldn't wait for the 35W bridge to be rebuilt so they could get those noisy buses out of the neighborhood (with special lanes from remote parking lots). and get back to bumper to bumper automobiles on campus.
YEEEE! Doggies!
Sounds like Rochester and Mayo, all over again!
Page Chad, and have him set up the popcorn and beer concession...
Looks like the circus is back in Minnesota!
This saga continues as the state legislature is bringing the University of Minnesota and the Metro Council's planning group together to solve this problem. The University refuses to give up and there is fear that the system will be delayed if an agreement cannot be made in the next couple of months.
petitnj This saga continues as the state legislature is bringing the University of Minnesota and the Metro Council's planning group together to solve this problem. The University refuses to give up and there is fear that the system will be delayed if an agreement cannot be made in the next couple of months.
Of course, this would be the same legislature that took 30 years to pass a light rail bill in the first place !!
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