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Posted by zardoz on Saturday, January 26, 2019 12:01 PM

IAFarmer

Dont forget the small cab doors on the old toasters too.

 

Or how about the small toilet compartment on a SD50: too short to be able to stand up and pee, and too small to sit. They would have made a nice facility for a kid's fort.

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Posted by zardoz on Saturday, January 26, 2019 12:04 PM

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Were GP40's liked by crews?  Did they pull well?

 

The ex-Conrail GP40 the CNW acquired were real P.O.S. Horrible wheel-slip, noisy, cold, and drafty. Perhaps on a light train they might be ok, but attach any real tonnage and....forget it.

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Posted by BigJim on Sunday, January 27, 2019 6:38 PM
Posted by zardoz on Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:01 PM

 

 
IAFarmer

Dont forget the small cab doors on the old toasters too.

 

 

 

Or how about the small toilet compartment on a SD50: too short to be able to stand up and pee, and too small to sit. They would have made a nice facility for a kid's fort.

That's not true for the N&W's high hood GP-40's.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, January 28, 2019 10:07 AM

zardoz

 

 
IAFarmer

Dont forget the small cab doors on the old toasters too.

 

 

 

Or how about the small toilet compartment on a SD50: too short to be able to stand up and pee, and too small to sit. They would have made a nice facility for a kid's fort.

 

 

I don't remember if it was the SD50 or SD60 that they had mounted a big electrical box on the wall facing the toilet.  Neither sitting or standing were options. I couldn't even get in the compartment.  Obviously the one who planned that layout was never going to use those "facilities".

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Posted by IAFarmer on Monday, January 28, 2019 10:17 AM

i thought it was both the 50's and 60's had the tiny toilet area with a giant cab signal box where you would need to fit.  

jeffhergert

 

 
zardoz

 

 
IAFarmer

Dont forget the small cab doors on the old toasters too.

 

 

 

Or how about the small toilet compartment on a SD50: too short to be able to stand up and pee, and too small to sit. They would have made a nice facility for a kid's fort.

 

 

 

 

I don't remember if it was the SD50 or SD60 that they had mounted a big electrical box on the wall facing the toilet.  Neither sitting or standing were options. I couldn't even get in the compartment.  Obviously the one who planned that layout was never going to use those "facilities".

Jeff 

 

 

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Posted by zardoz on Monday, January 28, 2019 12:39 PM

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Posted by zardoz on Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:01 PM

 

 
IAFarmer

Dont forget the small cab doors on the old toasters too.

 

 

 

Or how about the small toilet compartment on a SD50: too short to be able to stand up and pee, and too small to sit. They would have made a nice facility for a kid's fort.

That's not true for the N&W's high hood GP-40's.

 

Never was in a high-hood 40, but the GP 7&9's were, by comparison, great. All they needed was a heated seat!

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Jeff, you may be right regarding the SD60's; I just cannot remember any issues with those. But those 7000-series were awful.

Twice over the years I stopped my train so I could either use the can in another unit, or better yet, go to a gas station or restaurant to use their facilities. Got called in for doing that once; took the Trainmaster up on the unit and asked him to show me how to use the toilet. After a peek in the unit's nose, the smart-ass know-nothing quickly got off the locomotive, and I never heard another word regarding the incident.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, January 28, 2019 4:48 PM

jeffhergert
I don't remember if it was the SD50 or SD60 that they had mounted a big electrical box on the wall facing the toilet. Neither sitting or standing were options. I couldn't even get in the compartment. Obviously the one who planned that layout was never going to use those "facilities".

Now they have the racks of PTC crap that forces the toilet into odd places. 

What is old is new again.

 

ever see those NS low-nosed EMDs (sd40-2s maybe) that had the Keebler elf door to get to the toilet?  There was no step down like in 99% of the other engines.  So the door was only 4' tall. 

  

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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, January 28, 2019 6:57 PM

zugmann

 

 
jeffhergert
I don't remember if it was the SD50 or SD60 that they had mounted a big electrical box on the wall facing the toilet. Neither sitting or standing were options. I couldn't even get in the compartment. Obviously the one who planned that layout was never going to use those "facilities".

 

Now they have the racks of PTC crap that forces the toilet into odd places. 

What is old is new again.

 

ever see those NS low-nosed EMDs (sd40-2s maybe) that had the Keebler elf door to get to the toilet?  There was no step down like in 99% of the other engines.  So the door was only 4' tall. 

 

We had doors like that on some of the low nose EMDs.  Not only was the toilet down there, but the cut outs for cab signals and train control, too.

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Posted by BigJim on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:11 AM

zugmann
ever see those NS low-nosed EMDs (sd40-2s maybe) that had the Keebler elf door to get to the toilet?  There was no step down like in 99% of the other engines.  So the door was only 4' tall. 


They weren't anywhere close to being 4' high, probably closer to 3'. Whatever, it was, it was a pain getting my 6'1" frame down in there. I loved the high hood units!

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