It's been quiet lately about the 1309 so is anything going on with her?
Check out John Hankey's column "1309's Difficult Past" under "Blog Post."
Big John tells the story pretty well.
Word from RyPN sources is that the last of the 'replacement' brasses has been scraped and fitted, and the locomotive should be back on its wheels by this time. That would indicate to me that it should be a comparatively short time (and no more financing sturm und drang) to have the 'rest' of the work buttoned up...
Flintlock76 Check out John Hankey's column "1309's Difficult Past" under "Blog Post." Big John tells the story pretty well.
Flintlock76, Thanks for pointing that out to me/us. Very enlightening stuff.
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Flint, where do I find this "Blog Post?" I'd like to read the Hankey article also.
Along the top banner under Blogs and Forums
Miningman Along the top banner under Blogs and Forums
Beat me to it!
MiningmanAlong the top banner under Blogs and Forums
Or, since this is a specific blog post, the direct link for 'cut and paste' (Kalmbach does not support making its own links directly 'clickable'):
http://cs.trains.com/trn/b/observation-tower/archive/2020/02/12/1309-s-difficult-past-and-prosperous-future.aspx
To make it hot you have to put the link text in the url boxes. Like this, but with [] instead of {}.
{url}link text{/url}
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SD70DudeTo make it hot you have to put the link text in the url boxes. Liks this, but with [] instead of {}. {url}link text{/url}
I couldn't get URL tags to work earlier -- it might be something platform-specific.
What is stranger still is that using Kalmbach's own URL insertion tool (the little 'chain links' button under italic text) fails to produce clickable Kalmbach links, indicating it doesn't have the functionality of direct use of BBcode.
Overmod I couldn't get URL tags to work earlier -- it might be something platform-specific.
I used it on my (Android) phone yesterday. And today on a Windows PC with Firefox (still no PM functionality). Maybe it's a Apple thing.
Overmod What is stranger still is that using Kalmbach's own URL insertion tool (the little 'chain links' button under italic text) fails to produce clickable Kalmbach links, indicating it doesn't have the functionality of direct use of BBcode.
Ironic indeed.
We really should have a sticky "Kalmbach Forums IT Help/FAQ" thread. But I suppose it would probably get deleted after repeated clambake jokes....
This site's search function still doesn't work. So I just use Google and adding cs.trains.com after whatever term I am searching for. Seems to work pretty well.
let's see.
The url tag thingie worked on my apple.
But if I use the "insert link" button, it does not.
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The Hankey article is very enlightening and inspirational. And a good read.
I just have one question, and it's about this paragraph:
And the Vision was bold, plausible, and strategic. It just didn’t get clearly communicated, or accurately budgeted. If it had, I doubt that WMSR would ever turn a wheel behind steam again.
I get the first two sentences. But the final one seems to be saying that if the plan had been clearly communicated and well-budgeted ... the project would have been doomed to failure.
Say what?
What am I misreading? Or is it just some editing error?
On my phone, that's in a menu, not a banner. And while I found "Blogs and Forums" there, clicking on it did nothing.
But all was well on my computer.
Lithonia Operator The Hankey article is very enlightening and inspirational. And a good read. I just have one question, and it's about this paragraph: And the Vision was bold, plausible, and strategic. It just didn’t get clearly communicated, or accurately budgeted. If it had, I doubt that WMSR would ever turn a wheel behind steam again. I get the first two sentences. But the final one seems to be saying that if the plan had been clearly communicated and well-budgeted ... the project would have been doomed to failure. Say what? What am I misreading? Or is it just some editing error?
I can't speak for Big John, he'll have to explain himself, assuming he's looking in on this thread. But I will say this much.
I think if the WMSR knew what a nightmare the 1309 restoration was going to turn into they'd have told the B&O Museum "No thanks!" and passed on the 2-6-6-2 and turned their efforts into overhauling their 2-8-0.
Before anyone starts on a steam restoration they should remember the words of Linn Moedinger of the Strasburg RR.
"It's always going to cost a lot more than you think it will. I've never been right on an estimate yet."
And if a steam maestro like Linn Moedinger could admit to that, well, what can we say?
Flintlock76I think if the WMSR knew what a nightmare the 1309 restoration was going to turn into they'd have told the B&O Museum "No thanks!" and passed on the 2-6-6-2 and turned their efforts into overhauling their 2-8-0. Before anyone starts on a steam restoration they should remember the words of Linn Moedinger of the Strasburg RR. "It's always going to cost a lot more than you think it will. I've never been right on an estimate yet." And if a steam maestro like Linn Moedinger could admit to that, well, what can we say?
It make no difference in what kind of transportation equipment anyone thinks about 'restoring' - Looking at the equipment where it stands is no indication of what the real condition of the equipment is. It is only when you start to peel back the layers of the machine that you START to understand what kind of task you have undertaken.
The following video is Part 1 of a series that has now grown to 10 video that highlight the efforts necessary to restore to operation a piece of accessory equipment for the restoration of the NC&StL 576 in Nashville.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhpVOHkCFnw
Until you start 'digging into the beast' you have no idea what your job will be - what can be saved and reused, what has to be manufactured again as the original parts are far too damaged to ever be used again.
If one's cursory inspection of a piece of equipment creates the estimate in your mind that it will cost $X to bring it back to life, you had better have the budget for $5X to $10X for it to live again.
A former employee stealing the drivers bearing brasses didn't help the restoration effort from either a time or money point of view.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
I restore old houses for a living, 100 years, 200 years, it's the same way with houses.
I can tell you a lot about an old house in just a few hours, but what it will really take to bring her back........
Let's just say that all the work I do is time and materials......
The last big one we did cost twice the starting budget, partly because of stuff we could not see, and could not have foreseen without expensive, invasive testing, and partly because the Mrs. client had expensive taste way beyond my recommendations........
The Mr. client recently confessed he did not always understand the costs at the time, but is now very glad he trusted my judgement.
1309 is one of my most favorite steam locos, I can't wait.......
I though John explained things rather well, and while he may not remember me, I knew him back when we were both rather young.......
Sheldon
... same with boats ...
In the comments section below Hankey's article, all are positive except one. That one is anything but, and seems to be written by someone with personal axes to grind.
I will definitely go see the 1309 run once it's finished. It will be a hell of a sight.
Same with cars. Think of what it will cost you to restore that 1955 whatever. Quadruple that amount and you will still come up short. If you think that you'll sell it and make all the money back and a tidy profit when you're done, I suggest you take up golf.
Sounds like WMSR bought this engine from a shady used car dealer (insert Baltimore joke here?)
*slaps roof*. Yeah, low mileage, run by a little old engineer to church and back on Sunday mornings!
zugmann Sounds like WMSR bought this engine from a shady used car dealer (insert Baltimore joke here?) *slaps roof*. Yeah, low mileage, run by a little old engineer to church and back on Sunday mornings!
Good one Zug!
It is after all Baltimore, the place where aluminum siding and Formstone brick veneer were first sold door to door.......
Atlantic Central- There's something to what you say- remember the movie "Tin Men?" it was set in Baltimore. Great flick!
Aw, quite pickin' on Baltimore! You can't beat it for boiled crabs n' beer!
Although I wish crab meat liked me as much as I like it...
Flintlock76Aw, quite pickin' on Baltimore! You can't beat it for boiled crabs n' beer! Although I wish crab meat liked me as much as I like it...
Boiled? Marylander's don't boil crabs! They steam them with lots of Old Bay seasoning. Someone trying to boil crabs will be drawn and quartered at sunset and buried with the shells from the town crab feast.
Boiling crabs makes about as much sense as boiling lobster.
OvermodBoiling crabs makes about as much sense as boiling lobster.
Boiling make the meat watery and overwhelms the taste of the meat. Same thing with vegetables - steam cooks but lets the taste emerge.
BaltACD Overmod Boiling crabs makes about as much sense as boiling lobster.
Overmod Boiling crabs makes about as much sense as boiling lobster.
I'd love to chime in a recipe but, I like my throat open, so there's no way I'll ever be tasting any kind of shell fish.
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