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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, September 1, 2003 5:02 PM
Tim
congrats on your third star.Sunflower feels the same way(shes a beagle/cocker spanial mix).Mamma doesn't like them because they eat her flowers.
stay safe
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 11:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by David3

Not to offend anybody but I don't like hunters because they kill inoccent animals, but if they despertly need to that's ok. So if some do get hit, it's there fault that their on the tracks and I really don't mind.

David, Rabbits are mean vicious animals, If given the chance they would not hesitate to kill you. I am simply trying to make the world safer by eliminating some of these vile beast's. Beside's, they taste good in the stew pot.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 11:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by David3

Not to offend anybody but I don't like hunters because they kill inoccent animals, but if they despertly need to that's ok. So if some do get hit, it's there fault that their on the tracks and I really don't mind.

David, Rabbits are mean vicious animals, If given the chance they would not hesitate to kill you. I am simply trying to make the world safer by eliminating some of these vile beast's. Beside's, they taste good in the stew pot.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:34 PM
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6562

This is a link to Jeff's thread started earlier this month. It goes right along with what is being discussed in this thread. If after reading Jeff's thread someone intends to continue trespassing on railroad property they deserve everything coming to them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:34 PM
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6562

This is a link to Jeff's thread started earlier this month. It goes right along with what is being discussed in this thread. If after reading Jeff's thread someone intends to continue trespassing on railroad property they deserve everything coming to them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:05 PM
They won't care anymore cause THEY WILL BE DEAD!!!![xx(][xx(]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:05 PM
They won't care anymore cause THEY WILL BE DEAD!!!![xx(][xx(]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

QUOTE: Originally posted by Control-Stand

so no one was killed in the accident did the doggy make it hope he was ok,Glad no one was no Killed.


The two men were not injured, but doggy[:(][|)] didn't sound so good.....[V][V]
The reality is no one is going to go out there and measure. And if you are 99 feet within track nobody is going to care. People are going to tresspass again and again, like red-light runners and people going over the speed limit. [:(!][:(!]


Hi A , [:)] Sorry that the dog got hurt. [:(] I have a Doberman and would be unhappy if something happened to her. But I wouldn't have her out there in the first place. Here, as many have pointed out, the right of way is not 100 feet. It may be around 30 feet counting tracks and all. (That is just a guess) The point is, if 30 or if 100 feet, that the tracks and the right of way are private property. When you run a red or yellow light you do so most of the time without much thought. You just do it on the spur of the second. Speeding can be done without realizing it, when you are not thinking about the speed limit but thinking about other things. But when one walks on the tracks or right of way can they say, "I didn't know what I was doing?" I think not.

What it comes down to, for adults, is strictly prinicples. You either have them or you don't. Let me give you a short story. One year my brother was in the service stationed at K. I. Sawyer AFB in the UP of Michigan. He had left a car at our farm in Missouri and wanted me to drive it up to him. So I did. I started out on the trip. Somewhere in Illinois late at night/early morning, I came upon a stop light out in the middle of nowhere. There wasn't a crossroad, but there was a red light. I stopped there and waited. There wasn't anything coming. I thought to myself how stupid it was to put a stoplight out here in the middle of nowhere and nothing was coming. This stoplight wasn't 20 seconds it litterally was minutes. After several minutes of waiting and waiting for nothing I was getting a little p o ed. After another couple of minutes (I am not kidding it was minutes) I saw in the distance a set of headlights. They came closer and closer and finally a few cars past me going the other direction. After they passed the stoplight turned green. I went. Down the road about 1/2 mile the road narrowed. Then it narrowed even more. Then there was a sign that said "Narrow Bridge". The bridge wasn't wide enough for 2 cars only one. I slowly crossed the bridge, regained speed and continued on my way. The road was still narrow. Then it widdened a bit, and after a short while of driving became two lanes again. After a couple of minutes of driving I came upon another stoplight that had the opposite lane stopped. Then it was all clear and made complete sense. But what would have happened had I not stayed stopped at my stoplight.
I think everyone reading this thread can figure that one out, well maybe not.
Like I said before, it all comes down to principles--you either have them or you don't.
Anyone willing to break one law on purpose is willing to break others. These laws are for our protection. But some people just can't seem to figure that out.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

QUOTE: Originally posted by Control-Stand

so no one was killed in the accident did the doggy make it hope he was ok,Glad no one was no Killed.


The two men were not injured, but doggy[:(][|)] didn't sound so good.....[V][V]
The reality is no one is going to go out there and measure. And if you are 99 feet within track nobody is going to care. People are going to tresspass again and again, like red-light runners and people going over the speed limit. [:(!][:(!]


Hi A , [:)] Sorry that the dog got hurt. [:(] I have a Doberman and would be unhappy if something happened to her. But I wouldn't have her out there in the first place. Here, as many have pointed out, the right of way is not 100 feet. It may be around 30 feet counting tracks and all. (That is just a guess) The point is, if 30 or if 100 feet, that the tracks and the right of way are private property. When you run a red or yellow light you do so most of the time without much thought. You just do it on the spur of the second. Speeding can be done without realizing it, when you are not thinking about the speed limit but thinking about other things. But when one walks on the tracks or right of way can they say, "I didn't know what I was doing?" I think not.

What it comes down to, for adults, is strictly prinicples. You either have them or you don't. Let me give you a short story. One year my brother was in the service stationed at K. I. Sawyer AFB in the UP of Michigan. He had left a car at our farm in Missouri and wanted me to drive it up to him. So I did. I started out on the trip. Somewhere in Illinois late at night/early morning, I came upon a stop light out in the middle of nowhere. There wasn't a crossroad, but there was a red light. I stopped there and waited. There wasn't anything coming. I thought to myself how stupid it was to put a stoplight out here in the middle of nowhere and nothing was coming. This stoplight wasn't 20 seconds it litterally was minutes. After several minutes of waiting and waiting for nothing I was getting a little p o ed. After another couple of minutes (I am not kidding it was minutes) I saw in the distance a set of headlights. They came closer and closer and finally a few cars past me going the other direction. After they passed the stoplight turned green. I went. Down the road about 1/2 mile the road narrowed. Then it narrowed even more. Then there was a sign that said "Narrow Bridge". The bridge wasn't wide enough for 2 cars only one. I slowly crossed the bridge, regained speed and continued on my way. The road was still narrow. Then it widdened a bit, and after a short while of driving became two lanes again. After a couple of minutes of driving I came upon another stoplight that had the opposite lane stopped. Then it was all clear and made complete sense. But what would have happened had I not stayed stopped at my stoplight.
I think everyone reading this thread can figure that one out, well maybe not.
Like I said before, it all comes down to principles--you either have them or you don't.
Anyone willing to break one law on purpose is willing to break others. These laws are for our protection. But some people just can't seem to figure that out.
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Posted by David3 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 8:35 PM
Yeah, a lot of people in Joliet do the same thing, it would be nice if we could round them all up and show them a car on the tracks getting hit by a 50-60 mph freight, maybe that'll scare them!!!!! But maybe they still wouldn't care, but if they get hit, oh well it's their fault!!!!!
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Posted by David3 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 8:35 PM
Yeah, a lot of people in Joliet do the same thing, it would be nice if we could round them all up and show them a car on the tracks getting hit by a 50-60 mph freight, maybe that'll scare them!!!!! But maybe they still wouldn't care, but if they get hit, oh well it's their fault!!!!!
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Posted by Train Guy 3 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 8:30 PM
People in my town cross tracks without even stopping - thats if they're on foot or in a car." The bell can be ringing, lights flashing, gate down, and train blowing the horn; they still cross the tracks. People at the local college are always around the tracks messing around. Peole care very little for the railroad right-of-way, maybe and accident will show them a trains true destruction.

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Posted by Train Guy 3 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 8:30 PM
People in my town cross tracks without even stopping - thats if they're on foot or in a car." The bell can be ringing, lights flashing, gate down, and train blowing the horn; they still cross the tracks. People at the local college are always around the tracks messing around. Peole care very little for the railroad right-of-way, maybe and accident will show them a trains true destruction.

TG3 LOOK ! LISTEN ! LIVE ! Remember the 3.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Control-Stand

so no one was killed in the accident did the doggy make it hope he was ok,Glad no one was no Killed.


The two men were not injured, but doggy[:(][|)] didn't sound so good.....[V][V]
The reality is no one is going to go out there and measure. And if you are 99 feet within track nobody is going to care. People are going to tresspass again and again, like red-light runners and people going over the speed limit. [:(!][:(!]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Control-Stand

so no one was killed in the accident did the doggy make it hope he was ok,Glad no one was no Killed.


The two men were not injured, but doggy[:(][|)] didn't sound so good.....[V][V]
The reality is no one is going to go out there and measure. And if you are 99 feet within track nobody is going to care. People are going to tresspass again and again, like red-light runners and people going over the speed limit. [:(!][:(!]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:13 PM
so no one was killed in the accident did the doggy make it hope he was ok,Glad no one was no Killed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:13 PM
so no one was killed in the accident did the doggy make it hope he was ok,Glad no one was no Killed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:08 PM
I know its not funny,but here in West Virginia some folks have to step across the tracks to get off their own property.Would be impossible for a 100 foot no tresspass zone here.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:08 PM
I know its not funny,but here in West Virginia some folks have to step across the tracks to get off their own property.Would be impossible for a 100 foot no tresspass zone here.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 5:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith



Joggers/walkers that are running/jogging/walking ON the tracks (not next to them) while WEARING HEADPHONES usually with the volumn so high it drowns out all outside distractions, you know, cars, signals, TRAINHORNS.

these Darwin Award winners get splattered form behind and then their families try to sue even though there are "no trespassing" sign and increasingly fenced off ROWs so the only way onto tracks is at grade crossings where you have to walk past the signs.



I agree whole heartedly. But what do you do with an adult who knows better and blatantly and purposely ignores the law and the rights of the railroad to do as they please.

AND THE NEXT DARWIN AWARD GOES TO . . . ohh you have to died first to get it.
So now I guess the future recipient can continue to endanger the lives and property of others. And has already been stated when they do receive "their reward" their family will sue.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 5:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith



Joggers/walkers that are running/jogging/walking ON the tracks (not next to them) while WEARING HEADPHONES usually with the volumn so high it drowns out all outside distractions, you know, cars, signals, TRAINHORNS.

these Darwin Award winners get splattered form behind and then their families try to sue even though there are "no trespassing" sign and increasingly fenced off ROWs so the only way onto tracks is at grade crossings where you have to walk past the signs.



I agree whole heartedly. But what do you do with an adult who knows better and blatantly and purposely ignores the law and the rights of the railroad to do as they please.

AND THE NEXT DARWIN AWARD GOES TO . . . ohh you have to died first to get it.
So now I guess the future recipient can continue to endanger the lives and property of others. And has already been stated when they do receive "their reward" their family will sue.

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Posted by David3 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:49 PM
Not to offend anybody but I don't like hunters because they kill inoccent animals, but if they despertly need to that's ok. So if some do get hit, it's there fault that their on the tracks and I really don't mind.
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Posted by David3 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:49 PM
Not to offend anybody but I don't like hunters because they kill inoccent animals, but if they despertly need to that's ok. So if some do get hit, it's there fault that their on the tracks and I really don't mind.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:46 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

Guy's your forgetting something important here. Some of the best Rabbit hunting spots I have are along railroad track's. Sorry, 100 ft. rule, I plan on breaking.
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Tim
I have seen hunters along the tracks and one almost get killed by a train please stay safe.
joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:46 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

Guy's your forgetting something important here. Some of the best Rabbit hunting spots I have are along railroad track's. Sorry, 100 ft. rule, I plan on breaking.
TIM A.

Tim
I have seen hunters along the tracks and one almost get killed by a train please stay safe.
joe

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Posted by David3 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:17 PM
When will people learn that railroads put them NO TRESSPASSING signs up for a reason, I hate those morons that just don't listen to what anybody tells them[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!]
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Posted by David3 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:17 PM
When will people learn that railroads put them NO TRESSPASSING signs up for a reason, I hate those morons that just don't listen to what anybody tells them[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!]
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Posted by ironhorseman on Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:11 PM
"Second Verse, Same As The First..."
-Herman's Hermits

100ft right-of-way? Must only be in Alaska. Around here in town the the houses that sit along side the right of way are less than 100ft, maybe less than 70ft. The home owner's fences butt up against the RR property. The depot's platform is right next to the tracks, about 10ft. And the trains travel 50mph through town. Out in the country the barbed wire fences are less than 50ft from the rails. Some roads parallel the tracks less than 50ft. away. And the speed limit for trains in the country is higher: 60-70mph.

I suggest we issue 100ft tape measure to every human being on the planet, all 6 billion+. That way if there's ever even a remote possiblity that they might someday be anywhere near some RR tracks then they can measure off the distance so they know to be safe. Also we'll include classes on tape meaure use and general RR safety. Then we can bulldoze all houses and building within 100ft on either side of the tracks.

Seriously, has anyone heard of the 100ft rule before reading this thread? My guess is a majority will say no and an even greater majority won't even read this thread. Even still an even greater majority won't even visit this fourm or website and will remain completely unknowledgable of this "new found" law.

I tied to get the point across earlier this month with my "STAY OFF THE TRACKS POST." I engaged those teenagers that were sitting between the rails as a fast freight was less than a mile away. That kid saw the train, was looking right at it, and laughing. They saw me coming and run away. They knew they had been caught doing wrong and therefore had a guilty conscious. I still followed them and told them dangers anyway without degrading them or humilating them. Who knows, maybe my intervention will lead to prevention of a future incident. Or maybe not. It was still worth it. They probably told all their friends later that some geek was giving them a geeky lecture on stupid geeky RR safety. They'll laugh now but the next time they see a train or some tracks they'll remember what I told them. They'll remember how they got spotted by someone the next time they read or hear about a person getting hit by train while being on the tracks. They'll remember the next time they see a public service annoucment on TV about RR safety. Hopefully they will tell all their friends. Maybe they'll all flock the RR tracks to see this RR geek. Good, that way I can spread the message about safety even more.

The best place not to see a train is from between the rails.

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Posted by ironhorseman on Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:11 PM
"Second Verse, Same As The First..."
-Herman's Hermits

100ft right-of-way? Must only be in Alaska. Around here in town the the houses that sit along side the right of way are less than 100ft, maybe less than 70ft. The home owner's fences butt up against the RR property. The depot's platform is right next to the tracks, about 10ft. And the trains travel 50mph through town. Out in the country the barbed wire fences are less than 50ft from the rails. Some roads parallel the tracks less than 50ft. away. And the speed limit for trains in the country is higher: 60-70mph.

I suggest we issue 100ft tape measure to every human being on the planet, all 6 billion+. That way if there's ever even a remote possiblity that they might someday be anywhere near some RR tracks then they can measure off the distance so they know to be safe. Also we'll include classes on tape meaure use and general RR safety. Then we can bulldoze all houses and building within 100ft on either side of the tracks.

Seriously, has anyone heard of the 100ft rule before reading this thread? My guess is a majority will say no and an even greater majority won't even read this thread. Even still an even greater majority won't even visit this fourm or website and will remain completely unknowledgable of this "new found" law.

I tied to get the point across earlier this month with my "STAY OFF THE TRACKS POST." I engaged those teenagers that were sitting between the rails as a fast freight was less than a mile away. That kid saw the train, was looking right at it, and laughing. They saw me coming and run away. They knew they had been caught doing wrong and therefore had a guilty conscious. I still followed them and told them dangers anyway without degrading them or humilating them. Who knows, maybe my intervention will lead to prevention of a future incident. Or maybe not. It was still worth it. They probably told all their friends later that some geek was giving them a geeky lecture on stupid geeky RR safety. They'll laugh now but the next time they see a train or some tracks they'll remember what I told them. They'll remember how they got spotted by someone the next time they read or hear about a person getting hit by train while being on the tracks. They'll remember the next time they see a public service annoucment on TV about RR safety. Hopefully they will tell all their friends. Maybe they'll all flock the RR tracks to see this RR geek. Good, that way I can spread the message about safety even more.

The best place not to see a train is from between the rails.

yad sdrawkcab s'ti

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes



Now there are always people who know the rules and who do know better. They still choose to not follow the rules. That is why we have rules enforcement ie police, game wardens, etc.





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