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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:01 AM
yep its gold.we be up there if people keep asking questions.
stay safe
Joe

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Dude,
Your green!
Ed
Me Too! I am so jealous!

Congrats! Now you can work your way up to Ed and me - GOLD!

That's what color it is isn't it, Ed? It isn't yeller, it's Gold?

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Dude,
Your green!
Ed
Me Too! I am so jealous!

Congrats! Now you can work your way up to Ed and me - GOLD!

That's what color it is isn't it, Ed? It isn't yeller, it's Gold?

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Posted by edblysard on Monday, September 29, 2003 11:52 PM
Dude,
Your green!
Ed

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Posted by edblysard on Monday, September 29, 2003 11:52 PM
Dude,
Your green!
Ed

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 10:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Mudchicken

If you are asking about the layoff? Yes I still have a job. There was a layoff. I have heard anywhere from 40 to 100 people lost their job. VERY SAD. Now the rest of us are going on 32 hour work weeks to try to avoid another one. We were doing ok until 9-11. Then the botton fell out. Almost overnight orders were cancelled. We had an order for 5 birds all for one new company just beginning. They cancelled the order and folded up. We had 3 of then halfway done. It makes me very mad that idiots halfway around the world have such an impact on ALL our lives. [V] [xx(] [:(!] [|)] [:(]



Jim, you did it! So how does it feel to have three stars[?]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 10:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Mudchicken

If you are asking about the layoff? Yes I still have a job. There was a layoff. I have heard anywhere from 40 to 100 people lost their job. VERY SAD. Now the rest of us are going on 32 hour work weeks to try to avoid another one. We were doing ok until 9-11. Then the botton fell out. Almost overnight orders were cancelled. We had an order for 5 birds all for one new company just beginning. They cancelled the order and folded up. We had 3 of then halfway done. It makes me very mad that idiots halfway around the world have such an impact on ALL our lives. [V] [xx(] [:(!] [|)] [:(]



Jim, you did it! So how does it feel to have three stars[?]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 1:14 PM
Mudchicken

If you are asking about the layoff? Yes I still have a job. There was a layoff. I have heard anywhere from 40 to 100 people lost their job. VERY SAD. Now the rest of us are going on 32 hour work weeks to try to avoid another one. We were doing ok until 9-11. Then the botton fell out. Almost overnight orders were cancelled. We had an order for 5 birds all for one new company just beginning. They cancelled the order and folded up. We had 3 of then halfway done. It makes me very mad that idiots halfway around the world have such an impact on ALL our lives. [V] [xx(] [:(!] [|)] [:(]

Thanks very much for asking. [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 1:14 PM
Mudchicken

If you are asking about the layoff? Yes I still have a job. There was a layoff. I have heard anywhere from 40 to 100 people lost their job. VERY SAD. Now the rest of us are going on 32 hour work weeks to try to avoid another one. We were doing ok until 9-11. Then the botton fell out. Almost overnight orders were cancelled. We had an order for 5 birds all for one new company just beginning. They cancelled the order and folded up. We had 3 of then halfway done. It makes me very mad that idiots halfway around the world have such an impact on ALL our lives. [V] [xx(] [:(!] [|)] [:(]

Thanks very much for asking. [:)]
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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, September 29, 2003 12:38 PM
Usually happens on a weekend, at night, and as far away from the nearest railroad bridge official as possible that is qualified to inspect the damage (so the railraod can be tied up in knots untill the bridge is deemed safe to operate over) ....COLT's old Wabash bridge over I-70 at Columbia, MO seems to get hit on a bi-monthly basis, usually a backhoe on a truck trailer. Really amazing to see the amount of abuse that some of these spans can absorb.

Once saw a moving truck stuck in a structural plate/ arch culvert so bad that the fire department had to cut the driver out of the shattered truck cab. (Big time cork in the bottle effect!, Very large square peg in a round hole...)

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Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, September 29, 2003 12:38 PM
Usually happens on a weekend, at night, and as far away from the nearest railroad bridge official as possible that is qualified to inspect the damage (so the railraod can be tied up in knots untill the bridge is deemed safe to operate over) ....COLT's old Wabash bridge over I-70 at Columbia, MO seems to get hit on a bi-monthly basis, usually a backhoe on a truck trailer. Really amazing to see the amount of abuse that some of these spans can absorb.

Once saw a moving truck stuck in a structural plate/ arch culvert so bad that the fire department had to cut the driver out of the shattered truck cab. (Big time cork in the bottle effect!, Very large square peg in a round hole...)

-Iron Feathers

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Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 12:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

for our law enforcement friends what do you tell a guy who tries to take his semi under a railroad viaduct?opened his trailer like a can of sardines!
stay safe
Joe


Musta forgot his can opener that day. [:p]

I have seen it here too. There is an old Rock Island overpass on the way to work. I go under it every day. One day we had to detour around it while they got the "can" out. haaaaaaaa [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 12:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

for our law enforcement friends what do you tell a guy who tries to take his semi under a railroad viaduct?opened his trailer like a can of sardines!
stay safe
Joe


Musta forgot his can opener that day. [:p]

I have seen it here too. There is an old Rock Island overpass on the way to work. I go under it every day. One day we had to detour around it while they got the "can" out. haaaaaaaa [:D]

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Posted by dekemd on Monday, September 29, 2003 11:41 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

for our law enforcement friends what do you tell a guy who tries to take his semi under a railroad viaduct?opened his trailer like a can of sardines!
stay safe
Joe


Believe it or not, I've actually seen that very thing. Peeled off about 30 ft of the trailer roof. My question to him was "at what point did you realize your trailer wasn't going to fit?" He said he heard the noise but thought it was just barely scraping the bridge and he could but pull it on through. He didn't get out to check until it wouldn't pull any further. He was even sober. Stupid, but sober.

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Posted by dekemd on Monday, September 29, 2003 11:41 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

for our law enforcement friends what do you tell a guy who tries to take his semi under a railroad viaduct?opened his trailer like a can of sardines!
stay safe
Joe


Believe it or not, I've actually seen that very thing. Peeled off about 30 ft of the trailer roof. My question to him was "at what point did you realize your trailer wasn't going to fit?" He said he heard the noise but thought it was just barely scraping the bridge and he could but pull it on through. He didn't get out to check until it wouldn't pull any further. He was even sober. Stupid, but sober.

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, September 29, 2003 6:14 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

for our law enforcement friends what do you tell a guy who tries to take his semi under a railroad viaduct?opened his trailer like a can of sardines!
stay safe
Joe
Look for a new job?

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, September 29, 2003 6:14 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

for our law enforcement friends what do you tell a guy who tries to take his semi under a railroad viaduct?opened his trailer like a can of sardines!
stay safe
Joe
Look for a new job?

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, September 26, 2003 5:55 PM
for our law enforcement friends what do you tell a guy who tries to take his semi under a railroad viaduct?opened his trailer like a can of sardines!
stay safe
Joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, September 26, 2003 5:55 PM
for our law enforcement friends what do you tell a guy who tries to take his semi under a railroad viaduct?opened his trailer like a can of sardines!
stay safe
Joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by dekemd on Friday, September 26, 2003 12:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by clinchfieldfan

Its nice to be wanted somewhere! I work in a rural county as a detective for a state police department, I worked as a trooper for twelve years previous to that. We work closely with CSX and NS railroad police on their theft cases. As to tresspassing on RR property the RR police don't seem to be very concerned with that sort of thing in this area, it mostly an urban thing. Most RR accidents occur at crossings in this area, usually a automobile or farm tractors. I have investigated one case where a subject committed suicide by train. (boy I could think of better ways) People have no consideration for anyone else, the train crew on that engine was really traumatized. Although I did get some good train pictures that day. If everyone would slow down in life and have a little consideration for their fellow humans boy life would be nice.


Welcome aboard! I work for a rural county Sheriff's Dept. in NC. I know exactly what you're talking about. I've seen quite a few morons scraped up off the pavement. We haven't had any train/car collisions lately. Last one was a tandem axle dump truck full of landscaping rocks a couple of years ago. Happened on the old Clinchfield line.

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Posted by dekemd on Friday, September 26, 2003 12:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by clinchfieldfan

Its nice to be wanted somewhere! I work in a rural county as a detective for a state police department, I worked as a trooper for twelve years previous to that. We work closely with CSX and NS railroad police on their theft cases. As to tresspassing on RR property the RR police don't seem to be very concerned with that sort of thing in this area, it mostly an urban thing. Most RR accidents occur at crossings in this area, usually a automobile or farm tractors. I have investigated one case where a subject committed suicide by train. (boy I could think of better ways) People have no consideration for anyone else, the train crew on that engine was really traumatized. Although I did get some good train pictures that day. If everyone would slow down in life and have a little consideration for their fellow humans boy life would be nice.


Welcome aboard! I work for a rural county Sheriff's Dept. in NC. I know exactly what you're talking about. I've seen quite a few morons scraped up off the pavement. We haven't had any train/car collisions lately. Last one was a tandem axle dump truck full of landscaping rocks a couple of years ago. Happened on the old Clinchfield line.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 26, 2003 9:42 AM
Speaking of tresspassing on the right of way, here's something I saw on TV. As far as stupid people who should know better, they're everywhere and they include "professionals" (perhaps in this case not the right word) who should know better. I was watching one of those TV blooper shows. There was a segment showing a news reporter standing on a railroad track and talking about the importance of railroads in building the country. Then all of a sudden him and the cameramen jumped off the track as there was a UP frieght headed for them from behind the cameramen. From the looks of things it seems that they got out of the way just in time. Will people ever learn?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 26, 2003 9:42 AM
Speaking of tresspassing on the right of way, here's something I saw on TV. As far as stupid people who should know better, they're everywhere and they include "professionals" (perhaps in this case not the right word) who should know better. I was watching one of those TV blooper shows. There was a segment showing a news reporter standing on a railroad track and talking about the importance of railroads in building the country. Then all of a sudden him and the cameramen jumped off the track as there was a UP frieght headed for them from behind the cameramen. From the looks of things it seems that they got out of the way just in time. Will people ever learn?
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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:46 PM
Regarding the "100 ft rule". There is not 100 foot rule. What the special agent was saying is that the Alaska RR has a 200 ft wide right of way through there and the RR owns the RofW , so to not be tresspassing you have to be 100 ft from the tracks.

RofW's vary in width from 15 ft to miles. The Alaska's evidently is 200 ft. YMMV.

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:46 PM
Regarding the "100 ft rule". There is not 100 foot rule. What the special agent was saying is that the Alaska RR has a 200 ft wide right of way through there and the RR owns the RofW , so to not be tresspassing you have to be 100 ft from the tracks.

RofW's vary in width from 15 ft to miles. The Alaska's evidently is 200 ft. YMMV.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:54 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by clinchfieldfan

Its nice to be wanted somewhere! I work in a rural county as a detective for a state police department, I worked as a trooper for twelve years previous to that. We work closely with CSX and NS railroad police on their theft cases. As to tresspassing on RR property the RR police don't seem to be very concerned with that sort of thing in this area, it mostly an urban thing. Most RR accidents occur at crossings in this area, usually a automobile or farm tractors. I have investigated one case where a subject committed suicide by train. (boy I could think of better ways) People have no consideration for anyone else, the train crew on that engine was really traumatized. Although I did get some good train pictures that day. If everyone would slow down in life and have a little consideration for their fellow humans boy life would be nice.


I "feel" for any railroader who is in the cab when they hit a car or someone walking on the tracks.

Years ago before the UP SP merger there was an Sp (SSW) train that left Pine Bluff southbound. Just out of Pine Bluff they hit a car. The engineer was so shaken up that they had to call in another engineer and the first went home. Now get this. The train (after all the legal stuff) continued on its way. After about an hour the same train but different engineer hit another car. Wow, you talk about bad luck.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:54 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by clinchfieldfan

Its nice to be wanted somewhere! I work in a rural county as a detective for a state police department, I worked as a trooper for twelve years previous to that. We work closely with CSX and NS railroad police on their theft cases. As to tresspassing on RR property the RR police don't seem to be very concerned with that sort of thing in this area, it mostly an urban thing. Most RR accidents occur at crossings in this area, usually a automobile or farm tractors. I have investigated one case where a subject committed suicide by train. (boy I could think of better ways) People have no consideration for anyone else, the train crew on that engine was really traumatized. Although I did get some good train pictures that day. If everyone would slow down in life and have a little consideration for their fellow humans boy life would be nice.


I "feel" for any railroader who is in the cab when they hit a car or someone walking on the tracks.

Years ago before the UP SP merger there was an Sp (SSW) train that left Pine Bluff southbound. Just out of Pine Bluff they hit a car. The engineer was so shaken up that they had to call in another engineer and the first went home. Now get this. The train (after all the legal stuff) continued on its way. After about an hour the same train but different engineer hit another car. Wow, you talk about bad luck.
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Posted by clinchfieldfan on Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:45 AM
Its nice to be wanted somewhere! I work in a rural county as a detective for a state police department, I worked as a trooper for twelve years previous to that. We work closely with CSX and NS railroad police on their theft cases. As to tresspassing on RR property the RR police don't seem to be very concerned with that sort of thing in this area, it mostly an urban thing. Most RR accidents occur at crossings in this area, usually a automobile or farm tractors. I have investigated one case where a subject committed suicide by train. (boy I could think of better ways) People have no consideration for anyone else, the train crew on that engine was really traumatized. Although I did get some good train pictures that day. If everyone would slow down in life and have a little consideration for their fellow humans boy life would be nice.
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Posted by clinchfieldfan on Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:45 AM
Its nice to be wanted somewhere! I work in a rural county as a detective for a state police department, I worked as a trooper for twelve years previous to that. We work closely with CSX and NS railroad police on their theft cases. As to tresspassing on RR property the RR police don't seem to be very concerned with that sort of thing in this area, it mostly an urban thing. Most RR accidents occur at crossings in this area, usually a automobile or farm tractors. I have investigated one case where a subject committed suicide by train. (boy I could think of better ways) People have no consideration for anyone else, the train crew on that engine was really traumatized. Although I did get some good train pictures that day. If everyone would slow down in life and have a little consideration for their fellow humans boy life would be nice.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by clinchfieldfan

As a member of the law-enforcement community I understand why people do stupid things like get killed or maimed by trains. They have absolutely no COMMON SENSE. Their family trees look like telephone poles. Of course this is not exclusive to the railroading community. Just drive down the road and look how some morons drive. Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to human behavior. I hope I haven't offended anybody but after seventeen years of shoveling human remains off of railroad tracks and highways I have become a tad cynical.
I, for one, would like to hear more from your end of the world. I imagine you could contribute a lot to the forum from your observations. I know we have a sheriff out there somewhere, so would enjoy postings from both of you. Within privacy limits of course!

Jen

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