BaltACDBack in the day when it was routine for 'butterfly replacers' to be carried on locomotives for jobs that worked industries (where track was less than great). The crews would then claim a 3 hour arbitrary payment for rerailing cars.
Now found on the front bumper of wreck trucks.
And if a T&E crew tried to rerail their own cars (at least on our little big RR), you'd be lucky to have a job the next day - but you probably won't.
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zugmann BaltACD Back in the day when it was routine for 'butterfly replacers' to be carried on locomotives for jobs that worked industries (where track was less than great). The crews would then claim a 3 hour arbitrary payment for rerailing cars. Now found on the front bumper of wreck trucks. And if a T&E crew tried to rerail their own cars (at least on our little big RR), you'd be lucky to have a job the next day - but you probably won't.
BaltACD Back in the day when it was routine for 'butterfly replacers' to be carried on locomotives for jobs that worked industries (where track was less than great). The crews would then claim a 3 hour arbitrary payment for rerailing cars.
A 'whole different railroad', back in the day. That day is not today.
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Top one in ther photos posted by BaltACD is a "butterfly"; the bottom 3 are a "camel's hump" type.
Then there are the commonly-used hardwood blocks . . .
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Paul_D_North_JrThen there are the commonly-used hardwood blocks . . .
Between retirements and PSR-induced layoffs, going to get hard to find people that know how to use those blocks. They'll just call Hulchers, Corman, or Cranemasters for every little derailment. Then keep the crew OOS due to the costs incurred.
Ah, yes; I remember seeing these hanging on engines. I never saw any in use, though.
I do remember seeing a car run over a flop over derail--and keep going. The AT&N was moving a car onto the GM&O track used for interchange; a brakeman was riding the car and winding the brake--and the car did not stop, but somehow rode over the derail and stayed on the track. The main problem was that no AT&N man had a key to the GM&O lock on the derail--but the GM&O section formena lived across the street, was at home, and he had a key!
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zugmann Paul_D_North_Jr Then there are the commonly-used hardwood blocks . . . Between retirements and PSR-induced layoffs, going to get hard to find people that know how to use those blocks. They'll just call Hulchers, Corman, or Cranemasters for every little derailment. Then keep the crew OOS due to the costs incurred.
Paul_D_North_Jr Then there are the commonly-used hardwood blocks . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txNMwminoiw&t=128s
BaltACD zugmann BaltACD Back in the day when it was routine for 'butterfly replacers' to be carried on locomotives for jobs that worked industries (where track was less than great). The crews would then claim a 3 hour arbitrary payment for rerailing cars. Now found on the front bumper of wreck trucks. And if a T&E crew tried to rerail their own cars (at least on our little big RR), you'd be lucky to have a job the next day - but you probably won't. A 'whole different railroad', back in the day. That day is not today.
I've seen and helped train crews rerail their own cars but nobody made any claims. It was done to keep the incident quiet. Same with fixing run through switches. Of course if bad track could be blamed maybe you could get some brownie points for rerailing it yourself..
DeggestyAh, yes; I remember seeing these hanging on engines.
Seems like I've seen them more on switchers than road engines.
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Related question from the same walk-
What does this railroad sign mean: 12"x12" square, white, that says: R1-mileObvious clue, I suppose, is that it's about 1 mile from the rail yard. I just can't place what the R indicates.
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Murphy SidingWhat does this railroad sign mean: 12"x12" square, white, that says: R 1-mile
Nothing like that in NORAC that I can find with a quick look. I've never seen it in person.
I'm guessing that it may mean one mile to the end of a slow order, the R meaning "Resume."
Murphy Siding Related question from the same walk- What does this railroad sign mean: 12"x12" square, white, that says: R1-mileObvious clue, I suppose, is that it's about 1 mile from the rail yard. I just can't place what the R indicates.
Restricted Limits one mile.
Restricted Limits are sort of like Yard Limits except that all movements are made at restricted speed. It doesn't matter in Murphy's area, it being non-signalled territory I believe, but in signalled territory within yard limits movement at restricted speed isn't required when operating on a signal better than Approach. In signalled territory within Restricted Limits all movement is at restricted speed no matter what the signal indication is.
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Jeff, such signs indicate a permanent restriction? What would be reasons for such a reduction?
DeggestyJeff, such signs indicate a permanent restriction? What would be reasons for such a reduction?
One such reason would be at a yard where the main traverses the facility with relatively little interruption to 'through' traffic, and the railroad hasn't or doesn't want to impose a strict 'within yard limits' speed (such as 5mph) but still wants to maintain reasonable safety.
Remember that 'restricted speed' isn't a velocity; it's a mode of operation: there is still an overall 'speed limit' but within that the engine crew is responsible for ensuring they can stop within half the distance to something they observe to be a risk...
Overmod Deggesty Jeff, such signs indicate a permanent restriction? What would be reasons for such a reduction? One such reason would be at a yard where the main traverses the facility with relatively little interruption to 'through' traffic, and the railroad hasn't or doesn't want to impose a strict 'within yard limits' speed (such as 5mph) but still wants to maintain reasonable safety. Remember that 'restricted speed' isn't a velocity; it's a mode of operation: there is still an overall 'speed limit' but within that the engine crew is responsible for ensuring they can stop within half the distance to something they observe to be a risk...
Deggesty Jeff, such signs indicate a permanent restriction? What would be reasons for such a reduction?
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Restricted Limits are starting to replace Yard Limits as a method of authorizing main track occupancy. Restricted Limits is more restrictive than Yard Limits because ALL movements ALL the time must be at restricted speed. Yard Limits allows track speed in signalled territory when a train has a signal indication more favorable than an Approach. Restricted Limits doesn't.
In non signalled territory, Yard Limits also always requires ALL movements to be at restricted speed ALL the time. So why is Restricted Limits being used in dark territory? I think RL will replace YL eventually everywhere so they can retire the YL rule from the rule book. YL will go the way of torpedos, consigned to history.
jeffhergertRestricted Limits are starting to replace Yard Limits as a method of authorizing main track occupancy.
Makes sense. One mile up the road all the spaghetti runs together. What remains of tracks from Rock Island, Milwaukee Road, CNW, Illinois Central and Great Northern all come together in a confined area used by BNSF, Dakota & Iowa Railroad and the Ellis & Eastern Railroad. That would be a good area to ease back on the throttle a bit.
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