"Controlled"
http://www.telegram.com/news/20180225/authorities-say-train-fire-in-worcester-controlled-burn
The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.
I continue to be astonished by media coverage of railroads.
So all those Alco’s are really just doing “controlled burns”?
23 17 46 11
edblysard I suppose you could use that term, although I am not fond of “engine car” to describe a locomotive.
Behind that is a toothpick car, and behind that a buzzy-keepcold car.
It's a "toaster." We've come to expect that...
And we wouldn't expect anything else from the media any more.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
Engine car I can expect from the media.
But the rail company's media official had to be the one that gave the statement that it was a 'controlled burn'. This official must have departed the media Friday to becom the mouthpiece of the company on Monday - without going the the Railroad 101 course.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
That engine car be very much broken. Fire on the inside - okay. Fire on the outside - less so.
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Well, it's as controlled as one of those ever is on a GE...
And it seems to fit with the more normal use of 'controlled burn' in fire management... tree? Would any railroad-management drone not already in the fire service use that particular term of art?
If they were clever it would be an opportunity to discuss regeneration of DPFs as a valuable strategy in diesel-locomotive management, all the more significant for being almost utterly spurious.
I just find it sad that Mr. Jung and the whole staff (I somewhat uncharitably suspect that when you have a paper called the "Telegram" you're already somewhat behind the technology power curve) still have no idea what they're looking at, or why there might be an interesting story in it.
In the fire world, a controlled burn (or "prescribed burn") would be one that was set in order to get rid of something, be it an old house or underbrush.
OTOH, I wouldn't expect an office drone, or even a run-of-the-mill PR person, to know about and understand why instances such as that occur.
zugmann http://www.telegram.com/news/20180225/authorities-say-train-fire-in-worcester-controlled-burn
Odd.
I heard that it was a new FRA requirement for improved grade crossing safety:
If repeated loud horn sounds don't get your attention, then perhaps giant flames coming out of an engine car would.
It would certainly get mine.
Ed
7j43k zugmann http://www.telegram.com/news/20180225/authorities-say-train-fire-in-worcester-controlled-burn Odd. I heard that it was a new FRA requirement for improved grade crossing safety: If repeated loud horn sounds don't get your attention, then perhaps giant flames coming out of an engine car would. It would certainly get mine. Ed
Johnny
BaltACD Engine car I can expect from the media. But the rail company's media official had to be the one that gave the statement that it was a 'controlled burn'. This official must have departed the media Friday to becom the mouthpiece of the company on Monday - without going the the Railroad 101 course.
Euclid I think they use the term, “controlled burn” just to mean it is something intended or normally occurring rather than an accidental fire. I am sure they realize that the fire has not intentionally been set to dispose of part of the locomotive. I would give them credit for not regarding the fire as an accidental, destructive burn. That is how the public regarded the fire on the oil train locomotive involved in the Lac Megantic runaway. How would you suggest the news report should have described the fire shown in this thread?
It's as news worthy as a car backfiring.
I guess it distracted the crowds at Elizabeth Warrens anti gun rally.
If a car had backfired and attracted the attention of some member of the public and they reported it to some authority, it would have been reported in/on the news so that others that might have heard it would understand what had really happened. Thus probably this was reported to someone of authority and they investigated and found it to be not a threat to the public, so it was reported as such... albeit rather poorly described.
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
EuclidHow would you suggest the news report should have described the fire shown in this thread?
tree68 In the fire world, a controlled burn (or "prescribed burn") would be one that was set in order to get rid of something, be it an old house or underbrush.
Worcester Telegram seems to knew that.
http://www.telegram.com/news/20160612/holden-firefighters-hone-skills-by-burning-old-house
No one from the RR made any statements to the press... no one knew about it until later.
It was running rather rich though.
Definitely shut it down and fix.
"Railroad was doing a scheduled controlled burn on an engine car."
How often do you guys schedule these burns on your engine cars?
_____________
"A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner
All of my burns are rather unscheduled..
It's fixed BTW.
The ( Newsies) must be kin folk of the Tooner Ville Trolley gang with Smokey Stover.
Y6bs evergreen in my mind
Paul of Covington "Railroad was doing a scheduled controlled burn on an engine car." How often do you guys schedule these burns on your engine cars?
Well the description is a little better than 'engine thingy'.
BaltACDWell the description is a little better than 'engine thingy'.
I think I used the term engine thingy more in my career than engine car, tbh.
zugmann BaltACD Well the description is a little better than 'engine thingy'. I think I used the term engine thingy more in my career than engine car, tbh.
BaltACD Well the description is a little better than 'engine thingy'.
She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw
Thingys is a good descriptive word for so many thingys...
MookieThingys is a good descriptive word for so many things...
Especially when they are colored yellow?
Maybe this is a normal cycle on modern locomatives where after some period the CPC lights up the exhust to burn out carbon or excess fuel build up?
http://www.bdtonline.com/news/mcdowell-train-flame-a-possible-burn-off-of-carbon-oil/article_40ade07e-0631-11e8-bf72-df83711e007a.html
I believe they're just the result of too much fuel in the exhaust - idling too long, failure of the fuel controls mechanism, whatever. Get enough heat, fuel, and air and it lights off.
This one was a turbo failure, as I recall. There's video of it.
And others:
Those photo's are more extreme than what I remember from my days back on the PRR. We used to recieve stories of small fires popping up along the ROW after a specific locomotive was on a train going across Ohio and Indiana. The resulted from hot carbon chunks being thrown out the stack and finding dry grass to ignite. Seeing these flames is much more extreme. Do locomotives still start fires as they did 70 years ago?
Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.