gmpullmangmpullman wrote the following post an hour ago: York1 I don't know if this is a one-time paint job or not. I thought it was unusual for a railroad where every locomotive is yellow. That UP engine sure had the interwebs in a flurry back in 2006 when it first appeared, some even still insisting the photos of it were manipulated in Photoshop and the unit really never existed.
Ed, I found that photo online and didn't know anything about it. Was it real?
York1 John
I asked my doctor if I gave up delicious food and all alcohol, would I live longer? He said, "No, but it will seem longer."
This ones for Ray. Fastest pursuit vehicle the horsemen has ever had. First of many to come.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
York1Ed, I found that photo online and didn't know anything about it. Was it real?
This early Trains thread has speculation and misinformation all over it:
https://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/79997.aspx
As I boiled down the information from other sites the engine was painted at Coast Engine and Equipment in Tacoma, WA, under contract from UP and got the job done incorrectly. Seems like UP repainted it a year or two later into the standard UP scheme. It is an ex-SP engine.
UP does have some yard engines and boosters in primer gray but this isn't one of them.
For a whole NEW look for UP here's what they've unveiled:
https://www.up.com/aboutup/community/inside_track/new-locomotive-look-it-220725.htm
BATMANThis ones for Ray. Fastest pursuit vehicle the horsemen has ever had. First of many to come.
Union Pacific is in the EV trend, too.
https://www.up.com/aboutup/community/inside_track/electric-vehicle-fleet-it-221004.htm
UP_Lectric by Edmund, on Flickr
Cheers, Ed
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Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
I'm back in the fold, so to speak regarding Trains.com. Maybe in December, as a former subscriber, I got an offer to renew at $29.99. Unfortunately it got shuffled to the bottom of a pile of papers and when I saw it again it expired.
I took a chance and emailed customer service to see if they would still honor the offer. Not counting the immediate computer generated response, 3 days later someone emailed me, saying they would send me a link to pay if I could send an image of the original offer.
I sent the image; three times I sent the image and finally got the link. It only took 3 weeks.
Sorry I missed you today Steve, I was waiting for the email.
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
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BATMAN Hmmm.... Is that a Model 3 or an S? Looks like a Model 3 by the photo...... 73
Here is a link to a story about the changes.
Model "Y".
https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/canada-s-first-electric-rcmp-cruiser-arrives-on-vancouver-island-1.6263537?fbclid=IwAR04kr_K1HkP5pWnYUHNtKjf6L3CnFF8aUF6y6sxgc8wIk6rGNFcXu7psJ4
The model"Y"
https://www.tesla.com/en_ca/modely
VROOOOOM!!!!
BATMANModel "Y".
Aha! Yep! I should have known that... My Podiatrist has a Model Y. He checks out my feet and we talk Cars...! LOL The Y looks just a bit bulkier in the body, particularly the front. I think the bars on the front blocked my seeing that.
I see the article mentioned the reduced power/range in very cold weather. That is true.... One thing that computer upgrades have helped with is more pre warming of the battery which allows better range and also helps with regenerative braking early while on the road. Electric loses more range in very cold weather than gas or diesel, but not as big a difference when compared with other fuels than a lot of detractors would have you believe.
howmusI see the article mentioned the reduced power/range in very cold weather. That is true.... One thing that computer upgrades have helped with is more pre warming of the battery which allows better range and also helps with regenerative braking early while on the road. Electric loses more range in very cold weather than gas or diesel, but not as big a difference when compared with other fuels than a lot of detractors would have you believe.
I think the Tesla will be ideal in urban areas, not so much in remote parts of the country. I have/had several family and friends in the RCMP, I use to go spend a few days every year with my cousin for a break. He was posted in some really remote areas and we would patrol hundreds of km on gravel and dirt roads in suburbans or pick-up trucks. Once we had a 20-mile high-speed pursuit of a carload of first nations kids reaching speeds of 25mph on the snowy dirt road. My cousin finally just went up behind them in the suburban and pushed them into a snow bank. Got out and gave them H-E-double hockey sticks for being idiots and we left. He was also posted to a few detachments through the Selkirk and Rocky Mountains. We would be in a Crown Victoria usually chasing speeders on the Trans Canada Hwy. Those Crown Victorias moved out pretty well. A Tesla would have shortened the time to catch up to the offenders by quite a bit.
I wonder if they will make a Tesla Police Special? Maybe they can fit an extra battery in somewhere to increase the range. I went with my cousin to some very remote first nations villages on the coast from where he was posted inland, it was several hours each way and we would have several jerry cans of fuel in the back of the truck for the trip. Sure had a lot of fun riding along with him, met some real characters.
BATMANI think the Tesla will be ideal in urban areas, not so much in remote parts of the country.
At the present time, I would have to agree with you. As I have mentioned before, if I actually do get out to see you sometime, I would have to plan my stops to recharge, and most of the trip would have to be on the Canadian side. If I do buy another (getting to age where I may just drive a lot less and stay close to home) I would definately buy the larger battery pack. Well worth the extra money!
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Hi Bear,
Interesting locomotives! I love the restored versions. There is nothing like a fresh, shiny paint job to brighten the spirits!
I guess that's why I am so reluctant to weather my locomotives. To heck with reality!
Cheers!!
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Good Morning Diners. Chloe, coffee STAT.
Just been sitting in my booth listening to the conversation. Not much new to say from my end.
hon30critterI guess that's why I am so reluctant to weather my locomotives. To heck with reality!
Not one of a kind (three of a kind?), but certainly unique, and neat looking.
Mike
Good morning Diners. A large coffee with a shot of rum please, Chloe. It wil not help the pains in my arm, shoulder and back, but I'll enjoy the drink.
Weathering rolling stock. I have done some weathering on a small amount of parcels carriages etc. and am pleased.
Just received a request from a friend for clothing and blankets etc. to send to the earthquake survivors in Turkey/Syria. Both Dawn and I are in the process to clear out old clothes, so we shall donate them.
Expecting arrival of some railway carriages for the layout. Hopefully they will arrive today (or tomorrow).
Thoughts & Peace to All who Require.
David
To the world you are someone. To someone you are the world
I cannot afford the luxury of a negative thought
-Photograph by Kevin Parson
Chloe, I will have a bowl of Rasin Bran and a glass of milk this morning.
It is a perfect day outside, I sure hope there are a couple more coming up.
York1Isn't it amazing how ornate the old buildings were? Today's modern buildings are so bland and utilitarian by comparison
This is absolutely true. I love the look of old downtown buildings all across the country.
BigDaddyI'm back in the fold, so to speak regarding Trains.com
Please let me know how this works out. I hope all the problems are resolved. If so, I will probably be back too.
howmusAt the present time, I would have to agree with you. As I have mentioned before, if I actually do get out to see you sometime, I would have to plan my stops to recharge, and most of the trip would have to be on the Canadian side.
Our next car will be electric.
For vacations we will rent a larger car. I can also rent a truck anytime I will need one of those.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
Good morning, diners. Bacon, eggs, and black coffee, Brunhilda.
Another day to work on taxes. I should finish today and get the work submitted. Taxes are easier for me now that I'm retired -- pretty straight-forward stuff. It wasn't always that way.
We have another day of thawing before winter returns with snow flurries tomorrow.
Even though one of my daughters has a Tesla, I don't see us getting an electric car. She commutes in Dallas -- it's perfect for commuting. Out here on the plains, we drive too far for even basic necessities. I have a feeling the batteries will not be progressing fast enough for us to rely on them at our advanced age for the distances we travel out here.
Hopefully I will be able to get back to some layout work later today. I've had layout withdrawal the past several days.
I hope everyone has a good hump day.
BroadwayLion LION'S BACK
Bad, bad, BAD!!! Lion! (Loved it!)
Good Morning,
Our heat wave continues, supposed to hit 30F today.
I won't be buying an electric vehicle. I would have to get a new panel as I don't have a spare 220 circuit for level 2 charging. That would drive the capital cost to a crazy level never mind the high cost of such cars. I also was wondering about range in the cold we get here, not the so called cold tests I have seen conducted at -7C. I saw a post from a fellow in Sudbury who said the range of his Tesla Y drops 50% on very cold days. A hybrid would be a better option for me. However I guess all is moot as I plan on driving my Volvo for many more years. At my current rate of driving I will have a 20 year old car before I need another.
No big plans today. Might run the C Liner a bit. I am slowly getting the bait shop building painted. My wife was amazed at how straight the edges on the window frames were so not bad for 75 year old hands and eyes.
Coffee time again,
CN Charlie
Yep... There is reduced range when it is VERY cold out.... I lose about 20% to 30% when it is very cold here. 50%? I think that guy should shut his windows and turn the heat down from High..... LOL I often will pre-warm the battery and preheat the inside of the car (Easier than scraping the ice off too...) before I leave which helps considerably. (Heating a gas car uses "waste" heat from the burning of fuel... )
Interesting article on that topic here: https://blinkcharging.com/is-a-cold-climate-a-deterrent-to-ev-ownership/?locale=en
Ray,
I think it gets colder in Sudbury than where you are located. What is the power reduction when it is -25F? We can have that as a high temp for days on end with lows down to -40 but I haven't seen any tests at those temps.
CNCharlie Ray, I think it gets colder in Sudbury than where you are located. What is the power reduction when it is -25F? We can have that as a high temp for days on end with lows down to -40 but I haven't seen any tests at those temps. CN Charlie
Ah.... yep! That is a bit colder than we get here in the Finger Lakes!!! LOL! I have no idea what that kind of cold would do with batteries. I can remember back in my youth as a farm kid, that when it got to -10F or lower we had to worry more about the water lines freezing at the barn.... We had a FORD tractor, two cars, and a pickup truck that wouldn't start usually. We just bundled up, fed and milked the cattle, and stayed in the warm house the rest of the time. Used a maul and an axe to chop the ice on the cows watering trough several times a day.... Kept the hose in the milk house that had an electric heater to prevent freezing.....
I remember we did have an electric oil heater we could put in the pickup where the dipstick was to keep the oil warm enough to get that started. Also had a battery charger on the pickup overnight too. We DID have to get the cans of milk to the dairy every day....
Take care!
Tuscan Lives —
prr 8102 139 by Todd Dillon, on Flickr
130518_6_benny by lmyers83, on Flickr
Once numbered in the thousands, it is a one-of-a-kind today.
Yes, Yes, a battery car. I drove one once a long tima ago. I think it had lead acid batteries. Sweet, but electric cars in the land of Dakota North... Gotta run the heat in the winter and a/c in the summer, and in the winter you also had more time with the headlights on. And Litium Ion batteries are a major fire hazard. Not a day goes by when FDNY isn't fighting a Lithium Ion battery fire. You cannot extinguish a Li Ion fire even if you dump the battery in a bucket of water. Like Magnesium it generates its own oxygen.
But help is on the way. They have begun to make Sodium Ion batteries. Charge faster and hold more of a charge longer. Sodium being far more plentiful than Lithium the should be lots cheaper, although nobody is going to bring the price down. Lithium is just one box directly above Sodium on the periodic table of pistachios. The Lithium takes more charge per pound than the sodium, so so you will need Na-Ion batteries than lithium, but not greatly noticable for toys, it may add another thousand pounds to your car. But the much greater milage and the quicker charging tymes will be a major benefit. And Na-Ion batteries will not explosively combust. You have all burned Na in school, and if you were not careful you likely enough burned some in the kitchen.
The MUSKrat is going to change Telsa over to Na-Ion or so I have heard, leastwise he is working in that direction ans assisting in the development of said battery.
BroadwayLion Not a day goes by when FDNY isn't fighting a Lithium Ion battery fire.
From what I have read, nearly all those fires are from cheap import electric scooters, bargain-basement electric bikes, and off-brand toys.
These are not originating from cell phones, name-brand cordless power tools, or electric cars.
hon30critterInteresting locomotives! I love the restored versions. There is nothing like a fresh, shiny paint job to brighten the spirits! I guess that's why I am so reluctant to weather my locomotives.
hon30critterTo heck with reality!
Good morning everyone. Chloe, I will take one of those apple fritters to go along with my cup of coffee this morning.
It sure is quiet around here this morning. I hope everyone is doing well.
SeeYou190It sure is quiet around here this morning.
Everyone is out fighting fires....
Just an FYI to think about.... A single cup of gasoline has the same explosive power as 5 sticks of dynamite. (https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1auzbk/til_a_single_cup_of_gasoline_when_ignited_has_the/). We were taught at National Camping School (BSA) that a half cup of Gasoline has enough explosive power to lift a one ton weight one mile straight up in the air.... That was in the class teaching the reasoning behind BSA banning gasoline stoves. Yep there had been some bad accidents! They still allowed propane but fuel containers had to be changed and closely watched by the adult leaders. Scouts were not allowed to handle the fuel.
Hmmmmmm???? People drive around with how many gallons of it right underneath them every day? I'm not worried about battery fires. My son (Who teaches the technology and reports to the British PM and UK Pariment on the subject) says your risk in either vehicle is about the same actually. Yep! Life is a risk, I think!
Good morning, diners. Bacon, eggs, and lots of black coffee.
Sometimes in daily living, I forget how much of an old man I am. Yesterday, the town began replacement of a bridge about a quarter mile from our house. It's a concrete and steel bridge, so they had a crane with the big steel ball breaking up the concrete. How did I spend my day? Out there watching them break up the old bridge. I think the construction guys used to call people like me "sidewalk superintendents".
When my wife and I were younger, we would look forward to watching the Oscars to see if our favorite movies would win. Now, with the recent release of the Oscar nominations, I see that movies have bypassed me. I have not seen a single nominated movie. What's more, I don't care if I ever see most of the badly written movies coming from Hollywood. I'm not sure when good (in my opinion of good) screenplay writing went away. Maybe this is another part of getting old, but it seems to me that years ago, movies had interesting and usually entertaining story lines.
Yes, the word curmudgeon fits.
I hope everyone has a great day.
Love that Chicago and North Western Locomotive. Rode a couple of CNW trains when I was in boot camp, a long long time ago. Like 50 years ago.
BroadwayLion Love that Chicago and North Western Locomotive. Rode a couple of CNW trains when I was in boot camp, a long long time ago. Like 50 years ago.