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Proto 2000 USRA 2-8-8-2 with QSI?

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Proto 2000 USRA 2-8-8-2 with QSI?
Posted by NZRMac on Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:44 AM
Hi

Just wondering if these are any good? and are they avaliable on-line somewhere.

Will they run around smaller radius turns 20"ish.

Thanks, Ken
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:06 AM
.The P2K family has a very good reputation and comes with a limited life warranty.
The model will be reviewed by MR in June 2005. To see a video sneak preview go
to the top of this page, Modelrailroader Magazine, then click. Then on the left
hand side click on reviews, click, then click on Video of 2-8-8-2.

The previous model per MR March 2000 will run on 18" radius and suspect the same.
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Posted by LuthierTom on Thursday, April 21, 2005 7:43 AM
I have 2 of the 3rd release of the P2K 2-8-8-2 and they will run on 18" radius turns just fine.
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Posted by knewsom on Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:51 AM
There are a couple of places on-line that have them. Trainworld has them for $299 I believe. I have one of the 2nd release which I added an MRC Steam Sound decoder in. It will handle 18 inch radius just fine. It is a smaller articulated compared to the BLI Class A. It will also fit on a 110' turntable.

Kevin
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Posted by selector on Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:56 AM
Ken, was it you who sent a BLI loco back to them? Maybe it was another Kiwi. Mine got to them on the 11th.

Have you had any contact with them?
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Posted by twhite on Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:16 PM
That USRA looks like it's just their original N&W Y-3 only with the pumps hung on the front of the boiler (which is basically what the USRA was, anyway) and added sound. If so, then it's a pretty good loco--a little light in the pulling power, but smooth and quiet and very sweet. The Rio Grande used them as helper locos on Soldier Summit, but NP and VGN used them as road power. I'll be interested to hear one, as I've heard good things about the QSI sound from P2K.
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Posted by NZRMac on Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:07 PM
Originally posted by selector

Ken, was it you who sent a BLI loco back to them? Maybe it was another Kiwi. Mine got to them on the 11th.

Have you had any contact with them?


I had an email back from Tony's to say they had recieved it and are having a look.

Ken.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:55 PM
I ordered a QSI 2-8-8-2 from Life Like and it sits awaiting final payment. Later on this month I will be able to run it and tell you how it does.
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Posted by ragnar on Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:15 PM
Believe one of our members has one running on our club layout and the sound is really quite impressive....loud too!
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Posted by NZRMac on Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:32 PM
Thanks everybody I'll keep a look out for one.

Ken.
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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:39 PM
People LOVE these locomotives. First Hobby totally sold out of 'em a few weeks after they were released. Trainworld may still have a few, I haven't checked recently.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 22, 2005 2:19 PM
I don't know if you guys know this or not, but I just watched MR's video of the QSI equipped P2K 2-8-8-2, and........ it uses the same sound as the BLI A Class. I for one don't find this to be a problem, does anyone else?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 22, 2005 2:33 PM
I dont have a problem with it.

However, I wonder how hard it is to find and load a actual Y3 sound into it?
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Posted by Virginian on Friday, April 22, 2005 4:38 PM
I'd love to buy one and swap the sound into the earlier Y-3 release without the smokebox pumps, but the non-sound units don't seem to be moving that well. I wish QSI would hurry up and start releasing their stuff seperately.
I guess you could set the Class A chuff to half speed and not going in and out of synch to simulate a compound all right, and the hooter is all right, too.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 22, 2005 8:14 PM
I wonder about the previous NON sound 2-8-8-2 releases. Will it ever be possible to "Drop in" a QSI unit module for sound and dcc into that 6 axle tender?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 25, 2005 4:09 PM
I took the unit home today. It was a happy day in Falls Valley Railroad.

At the LHS's layout where it was built on a 4x8 foot with 18" radius squeakers with a few kinks down to 15" in one or two spots...

It ran good. The owner ran it under the Digitrax system and it exhibited basically all the sounds of a Broadway QSI that one would expect. Both sets of drivers were articulated and it made it thru the curves and derailed at that one kink as we expected it to.

Later this week I plan to put some revenue freight (15 cars or so) on it and run it uphill down hill and sideways. Then we will understand how it performs.

I have a feeling the loco is a tad light. Perhaps a diecast metal boiler aka Lionel would really really turn it into a barn burner in the slow speed pulling dept.

One more note, the QSI sound in the tender is LOUD. I am hearing impaired and thought once or twice perhaps I can actually turn it down a bit. (That is some thing I usually do first... CRANK IT all the way up.)

I may actually pick up a second unit someday in the future and run it as a consist to help with the longer trains on grade. But let's see how she does on a friend's railroad first.

**Edit, I suspect it has the same sound as the Class A from BLI. Any clues on how best to "Calm the sound" down to more of a Compound noise? The whistle is alot of fun. =)
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Posted by twhite on Monday, April 25, 2005 7:05 PM
Highiron--yes, those P2k 2-8-8-2's ARE a tad light--I have the earlier version and it's kind of a disappointing puller for its 'heft.' But they are smooth running and nice on the eyes. Since I model Rio Grande, I use mine as a helper locomotive, which is how Rio Grande used them, but if you use it as a road loco, don't expect it to crawl away with a long train of cars. 'Tain't happening.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 25, 2005 7:16 PM
I hear you.

Ive a BLI Heavy Mike that will assist in helping the tonnage over the hill if needed.

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