Good evening Leon, I'm glad to see that you are using the green Boondockers and cumberbund that we picked you up for this very day I'm also glad to see that Boris has decided that he's had enough of the Leprechaun outfit as well
I think that in honour of the day I'll have a Guiness and Harps chaser,the Harps is a good brew I've enjoyed it many a time
Tom-A busy day for one who needs to be in sick bay caring for himself and his bride. However the effort is well appreciated.Lots of great Irish loco's ( many painted in shades of green as well ) Just a great effort from dabossman to be sure I'm happy to be your sidekick the two musketeers ( or is that musty steers ) and their happy band of regulars We may not run through three pages a day as in the Halcyon times but I think we still get it.I enjoy the interaction with we the few that give a patoot
I'm happy to see that the Guiness brewery loco was green.How could it be anyway else
CM3-Good to see you pop by ,sorry to hear that you had the problems in the machinery spaces,good to hear it's sorted out and the ships righted again, and that the first mates happy.Hopefully the loss of the warm water did not come with a flood of any proportions epic or otherwise.
The TH&B Berks are a well loved pair,the local railfans loved them to teh extreme.The only other TH&B power that was as equally loved was the other pair of oddballs. The two J1E Hudson's that were ordered on the back of a NYC order and numbered 500 and 501.
Pete-Ah an afternoon visit by the stealthy one who comes bearing gifts of steam locomotives and other's Some of which shot on the Emerald Isle. No Boris Dorothy is not there with her dog ,<sheesh>.So you lost some of your notes did you Have you checked in the Black Bag
Allan-Gday sir I'm glad that you've been enjoying my photo's and write ups, as long as someone enjoys them I'll keep posting them.I'm really glad that I don't have the need of a block heater as our house has no garage. A home with a garage and a nice heated workshop is on teh shortlist of things to do ( eventually )
Well leon another mint donut and another draft of Harps please. Herer's a couple more green loco's for everyone.
A CN C-liner at London Ontario in the early 60's
A BN train ( yes BN as in before the mega merger ) at Aruaura Ill from our july 95 trip to Chicago.
Rob
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, it will most definately have to be a round of draft Guinness for all the crew today! Hold on to those Tui`s though!
HAPPY St PATRICK`S DAY TO ONE AND ALL, " TO BE SURE, TO BE SURE!"
Tom. Hope you and your bride are feeling a bit better by now, my Doc always says drink plenty of fluids to help flush the virus away, he does`nt say what type of fluids though! Enjoyed all the Irish orientated pics and posts, we certainly have gone a bit GREEN over here, maybe we can halt global warming a little bit! That was a very nice set of pics of your Toronto trip and some great shots of your Can Am RR and the post of the start of "Our Place". Good choice of flicks for the weekend, have just found out that the latest Sweeney Todd movie is a MUSICAL no less, wonder if Johnny Depp can sing? I agree with you about water being a natural asset and FREELY available to all humankind. Thanks for the heads up on Fergie!
Rob. Glad to read you are`nt affected by the dreaded "cold start" problem at all. Some nice info on your Classic Juice, Steam, and Ad`s postings, very interesting to read. Nice pics from you too!
Eric. Their is a bit of a delay over the NZ governments bid to take back the railways at the moment, they are haggling over the final price! Enjoyed all your pics and writings.
CM3. Never had to use a block heater at all, had a very hard to start Vauxhall Velox [UK GM] once had to pump the gas peddle a lot in the winter! Very interesting info on the Scenic Route named trains.
Pete. A very nice set of shots in Pt 2 of the Rocket 150 at Rainhill parade, and a nice pic of "Hardwicke" with the original L&NWR coaches`, and some nice Irish Rly pics for St Patrick`s day as well. The Toon actually did`nt LOSE last night, they drew 1-1 no less, things are looking up! Some nice pics of you and the gang on the Toronto trip and at Tom`s place.
Nick. It`s amazing what a Kiwi coach can do for a Welsh rugger team, after their poor showing at the World Cup! Interesting song list for your St Patrick`s day gig.
Ron. Very sorry to read that you are leaving us mate, have really enjoyed your very interesting posts and all your info and photo`s and inter-reacting with you. It`s been a real pleasure to have met you. Hope to maybe see the photo`s of your completed electric loco sometime?
Lars. What a very welcome surprise to see you back on board for a visit, it was great to see the covAHS and the nice selection of pics from the Larsman Mobile, thats for sure! Hope you enjoyed the St Patrick`s Day parade over there, and kept those joints well lubricated with a wee drop of draft Guinness now and then. Keep on keeping on!
See ya, Allan
G'day Gents!
A finale from me for this St. Pat's Day 2008! If this happens to be our last - let it be known that we went out in style . . .
More trains of the Emerald Isle!
(13) CIE Park Royal <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(14) IE MK1 Craven coach <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(15) IE MK4 carriage <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(16) IE MK3 Dining car <Public Domain/Wikipedia.com>
(17) IE MK3 generator van <Public Domain/Wikipedia.com>
(18) Irish Enterprise train <Public Domain/Wikipedia.com>
See y'all in the ‘morrow!
Tom
Back from the Doc's <again> . . . yeah, same-ole, same-ole - a virus "thing" . . . <hack> <cough> <choke> <wheeze> Now I gotta hurry up 'n wait for the bride's Rx from the drug store <that sells pretty much everything known to man-kind. Wonder if they have studded snow tires Hmmmmmm.>
I see Wolfman Pete has returned with a spate of eight fine fotos!
Still a far cry from those halcyon days of yore - but as long as I'm able to squeeze in an hour here ‘n there - we'll give it a continuing effort. More from the trains of the Emerald Isle on this day of celebration for the Irish!
(7) Irish CIE engine #011 - 001 class <Public Domain/Wikpeida.com>
(8) IE #081 - class 071 - <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(9) Irish Rail #077 - class 071 - <GNU Free Documenation/Wikpedia.com>
(10) IE - class 2900 <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(11) IE #124 - class 121 - <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(12) IE - class 22000 <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
Later <maybe> . . .
Hi Tom and all.
HAPPY St. PATRICK'S DAY TO ALL THE REGULARS..I see you are behind the bar TOM so a round please and of course the Corned Beef and Cabbage..
A bit late catching up on the posts from the weekend and we have had Thunderstorms and heavy rain all morning, so I though I would post some photos while there is a break in the weather..
Unfortunatly my notes have gone astray at the moment for some of the locations ,these photos were taken on one of my Irish steam trips.
Great Northern Railway(Ireland) class V 4-4-0 No85 MERLIN built by Beyer Peacock Manchester in 1932.
Another BP locomotive class K2 2-6-0 No 461 built 1922 for the Dublin & South Eastern Railway.
461 does a 'Run Past' at Kilcoole south of Dublin on the line to Rosslaire.
85 and 461 at Mallow I think.
Deffinatly Mallow
Class WT 2-6-4T No4 built by Derby Works of the LMS for their Northern Counties Committee in 1947 at Antrim Northern Ireland.
No 4 at the RPSI base at Whitehead I think.The coach is the buffet car that dispenses the Guinness during the railtour I believe.
Looks like another storm rolling inso I will post this.
Another round please
Pete.
Great to see our WVA Connection make it "in" - gotta take care of the "home front" 'n the engineroom is a most critical element! <yikes>
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Continuing along with the Theme for this St. Pat's Day!
Brews of the Ould ‘n Nua Sod
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Narrow gauge locomotive that worked in the Guinness brewery - 1920s. <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
So, whadilyahave??
Cheers!
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; Irish coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Sorry I'm late today but we took one in the engine room over the weekend which necessitated a new water heater, some rewiring, etc. etc. Hot water is restored and when mom's happy, everyone's happy!
Nick - Sounds like you had a fine time (I think!)
Rob - TH&B Berks - not something we hear about too often.
Eric - The tower shot you got was at Attleboro, MA from an eastbound train. Attleboro is approx ¼ of the way between Providence and Boston.
The line to the right of your picture went SE to Taunton where it was joined by another branch which originated in Lowell, MA and stretched to New Bedford. This branch crossed the old Air Line at Walpole and crossed the Shore Line at Mansfield which is just above Attleboro on the Shore Line.
The branch split at Taunton; one side was east to Middleboro. Back in the long ago the Old Colony ran direct from Boston to Middleboro. Line from Middleboro ran to Buzzards Bay where another branch ran south to woods Hole. The rest of the line ran to Provincetown with a short branch from Yarmouth to Hyannis.
The other line which split off at Taunton was the Lowell-New Bedford Line mentioned above. A branch split from this line at Myricks and operated to Fall River. Back in the day this line continued from Fall River to Newport, RI. A short branch to Watuppa split off from the New Bedford Line between New Bedford and Acushnet.
So you can see that much of SE Massachusetts was honeycombed with branch lines. Employee tts from the time are full of all sorts of special instructions, etc. for operation over these lines.
Lars - Good to hear from you and that you will "keep yopur streak." New Haven book you posted is a keeper.
OSP - Sorry to sound liked Dickens, but, "The disease you have will visit you three times; twice you will be felled, and the third time you will spend 4-6 weeks coughing up body parts" There is no cure. The worst part is that you will also feel like you're draped over the stern sheets of the Nantucket boat; IOW you will have no energy. It does go away after awhile. I got into trouble because I couldn't take time off to kill it the first time. Thanks for the mopvie choices and the Irish Rail material. Enlarge the map, fellow readers, and enjoy!
Work safe
Back home between visits to the Doc . . . as Rob so "kindly" put it - apparently I've infected my bride! Hmmmmm. Gotta take her back in about 2 hours . . .
Sure appears that if not for Rob, I'd be talkin' to meself . . . 'tis supposed to be a special day 'n yet we're not being visited by the guys who make up the cadre - the core - the regulars! Fortunately I'm still buoyed by yesterday's visit from Lars, which gives me a glimmer of hope that perhaps - just perhaps - we have some life left. So, limping along . . . <aside from Rob's fine contributions!> here's a wee bit more for this St. Pat's Day!
(1) GNRI 85 Goraghwood - 10-06-1957 <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(2) 85 at Lisburn - 3rd July 2004 <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(3) GSWR logo from the past
(4) 4 at Drogheda <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(5) UTA4 YorkRoad - 09-06-1957 <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
(6) IE #202 - class 201 <GNU Free Documentation/Wikipedia.com>
Later . . .
Morning Tom , I'll have the BK coffee ( the high octane ) and I've brought a green thermos so it matches the festivities round the joint today.I ahev to say teh darts game with Leon last night was quiet envigorating , that guys got an arm on him. put one right through the dart board. We need to sign him up for this years grudge match I have to say teh aldies look good in their Irish green mini dresses and Boris is sort of "cute" in his leprachaun get up.
I hope that you are wearing a surgical mask as you've already infected one person <uh oh >
Nice read on the Irish Rail , a nice diverse system.
I aggree wiht you whoe heartedly lar's is a class act on any side of the pond or any planet a real trooper. I'm glad he was able to pop in if only briefly.A couple of photo's of locomotives wearing the green. You will have to envision it though as they are all Black and white photo's , but they are black and white photot's of CNR power in the proper green and Yellow paint scheme.
CN RSC 24
CN RSC 13
Oh what the heck one for the bossman in colour
PGE RDC at Quessnal BC ( uncles photo )
Top o' the Mornin' Gents!
RAILWAYS of EUROPE #5 - Irish Rail (IE)
Irish Rail (Iarnród Éireann) (IE) Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. Material NOT corroborated.Iarnród Éireann (IÉ; in English Irish Rail), is the national passenger railway system in Ireland. Established on 1 February 1987, it is a subsidiary of Córas Iompair Éireann. It runs all internal intercity, suburban and commuter railway services in the Republic of Ireland and it operates the Enterprise service between Dublin and Belfast jointly with Northern Ireland Railways. In 2006, Iarnród Éireann carried 43.1 million passengers; and this number is expected to rise to 48 million by 2009 and 100+ million by 2016.
In addition to Iarnród Éireann and Northern Ireland Railways, Bord na Móna operates a 3ft-gauge large industrial railway (the largest railway system in Ireland, but it does not carry passengers). Organisation At the time of its establishment IÉ referred to itself as Irish Rail, and introduced the four rails IR logo; however, the initials IR were often defaced as IRA on signage. The company gradually brought the Irish form of its name to the fore, ultimately introducing its current IE corporate branding and logo in 1994. The Irish word iarnród (alternately rendered "bóthar iarainn") translates into English as iron road, or railway. While the name "Irish Rail" was dropped from the logo, it remains part of the official company name ("Iarnród Éireann - Irish Rail") and was revived as the name of the company's online booking service, irishrail.ie, in 2006.
IÉ services are divided across several separate operating areas.
Services Advertising for Irish Rail (Iarnród Éireann) Intercity in Galway, 2005 IÉ's services are branded under three main names; InterCity, Commuter and DART. InterCity services are long-distance routes radial from Dublin. The Belfast-Dublin service, run in conjunction with Northern Ireland Railways, is branded separately as Enterprise. Diesel multiple unit (DMU) services out of major cities are branded Commuter. The DART brand is used for a north-south high-frequency electric multiple unit (EMU) service on the eastern side of Dublin. Formerly a separate timetable was published for each the two sectors (InterCity and DART /Commuter) annually, but in 2006 these were amalgamated into a single national timetable. Regional services (e.g. Limerick-Rosslare Europort) are sometimes regarded as Commuter services, with fairly new Commuter DMUs being used on the service, although they are listed as InterCity services in the timetable.
Dublin is the hub of Ireland's railway system. The two main Intercity stations are Connolly and Heuston; Intercity services radiate to/from Cork, Limerick, Tralee, Ennis, Galway, Waterford, Rosslare Europort, Sligo, Westport and Ballina. Dublin's third major station, Pearse is the terminus for much of the suburban network in the Greater Dublin area.
The majority of commuter services are based in Dublin, which in 2006 has four commuter routes. These are: Northern (Dundalk), Western (Maynooth/Longford), South Western (Newbridge/Kildare/Portlaoise) and South Eastern (Arklow). Many of the trains commencing on the South Eastern route provide a through service to the Western or Northern commuter line or vice-versa. Additional Urban commuter services include the Cork Suburban Rail, which runs on two lines from Cork (to Mallow and Cóbh) and from Limerick (to Ennis and Limerick Junction). The cork midleton route should reopen april 2009 As the Commuter livery is used on all DMUs, a number of other services also run under the name. These include Mallow-Tralee, Manulla Junction-Ballina and Limerick-Rosslare Europort, as well as the Dublin-Sligo and Dublin-Rosslare "InterCity".
The north-south route along Dublin's eastern coastal side is also host to DART, Ireland's only electrified heavy rail service.
Quality of service is generally good. The Enterprise route (Dublin to Belfast) is well regarded, despite occasional problems with punctuality. These are primarily capacity related. The route is only two track and serves both local and intermediate commuter as well as intercity traffic, hence any delay has knock on effects. This is combined with limited platform availability at Connolly station in Dublin. There is also the persistent problem with engine overloading, due to the fact that Enterprise locos must also supply coach power (unlike the southern and western routes, where power is provided by separate generator vans).
The Cork - Dublin route is also quite well regarded. It was the "premier line" of the Great Southern and Western Railway, one of the biggest pre-CIE operators. Journey time and rolling stock are quite good on this route, with new Mark 4 rolling stock complete with DVTs for faster turn around now in service.
Ireland: Irish Rail (Iarnród Éireann) No. 206 (IE 201 Class) at Colbert Station, Limerick (2006) (free use)
Dublin is the main hub in Ireland's railway system. The two main intercity stations are Connolly Station and Heuston Station; intercity services radiate to/from Cork, Limerick, Tralee, Galway, Waterford, Rosslare Europort, Sligo, Westport and Ballina. The majority of commuter services are based in Dublin, which has four commuter routes as of 2006. These are: Northern (Dundalk), Western (Maynooth/Longford), South Western (Newbridge/Kildare/Portlaoise) and South Eastern (Arklow). Additional commuter services run from Cork (to Mallow and Cóbh) and from Limerick (to Ennis and Limerick Junction). As the Commuter livery is used on all DMU railcars as of 2006, a number of other services also run under the name. These include Mallow-Tralee, Manulla Junction-Ballina and Limerick-Rosslare Europort, as well as the Dublin-Sligo and Dublin-Rosslare "InterCity". The north-south route along Dublin's eastern coastal side is also host to DART, Ireland's only electrified heavy rail service. Quality of service varies from route to route. The Enterprise is well regarded, despite problems with punctuality. There have been ongoing problems with excess power drain on the locomotives, with one or two locomotives overheating and bursting into flames while in service. Breakdowns are a regular occurrence as a result. The Cork - Dublin route, also quite well regarded, was the "premier line" of the Great Southern and Western Railway, one of the biggest pre-Córas Iompair Éireann operators. Journey time and rolling stock are quite good on this route with brand new rolling stock (mark 4) about to enter service.
Network Catering
IÉ's Network Catering unit provided a trolley service of food and drink, a snack car and (on some routes) a restaurant service. It also operates a restaurant at Dún Laoghaire. According to Irish Rail's annual report, the unit lost €270 000 in 2004.
Early in 2006, IÉ advertised for private catering contractors to take over the operation of its catering services. The service was taken over by RailGourmet in March 2007, who promptly raised prices of most items.
An IÉ commuter train at Tara Street Station, Dublin, 2006
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Enjoy! Tom
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Good Morning Gents!
St. Patrick's Day is here! Time to start up with a cuppa Joe, some pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and of course a selection from our Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast!
Green beer & green snacks all day!
St. Patrick's Day Wisdom
When told about the election of a Jewish mayor in Dublin, Ireland, Yogi responded, "Only in America!" (Yogi-ism)
Customer Acknowledgements (since my last narrative):
Sunday, March 16th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 199 - Lars <LoveDomes> at 3:56 PM: What's to say Not only an appearance at the bar from our Senior Manager <or Manager Emeritus> but a fone call as well! Double the pleasure on Sunday. Many thanx for thinking ‘bout the joint ‘n crew! Five Salute to our friend, the Larsman! You've been missed . . . .
Very happy to know that you'll be able to keep up with your participation in the St. Paddy's Day festivities in olde New YaWk . . . In all the years of being there, I watched many of ‘em - got to be something that one just didn't want to miss.
Nice touch with the covers ‘n fotos for the gang! Nicely done, Mate!
Fully understand your situation regarding future participation ‘round here. There are some things none of us can overcome and available time is one of ‘em. Not to worry, you'll always be welcome ‘round here. Oh yeah, the KEY - keep it. You're a trusted friend . . .
Page 199 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:17 PM: A surprise late Sunday nite visit from our Manager! Keeping up with things ‘round here, eh From the description of the "crime scene," I'd say the best course of action is to . . . . shoot those darts with Leon.
Bad day ‘round here today as the bride is "down" with whatever got me last Sunday . . . first time in 18 years that I've known here that she's missed a day at school for illness. My gal is hurtin' today . . .
Thanx for helping to keep things movin' along both here ‘n over on "my other Thread"!
Menu for St. Patrick's Day: Corned beef 'n cabbage 'n all things Irish! Some fine stew being made, and don't forget the Irish breakfast - so what's wrong with GREEN eggs 'n ham (Dr. Seuss it ain't!)
I've got the bar all day - Cindy will be helping. Ruth and the gals will be working the tables 'n the tent. Leon comes in at 5 PM . . . should be quite a busy time of it.
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" GREEN OJ they can handle!
Top o' the mornin' to ya!
Who left those pairs shoes outside the mangers office door,I don't wear gucci pumps and the laofers are two sizes too big oh and a note. Don't worry about the paper work and I can't make out the signature because of what looks like lipstick. Oh well hey Leon lets go shoot some darts I'll even spot you a couple free throws
Tom-Ah the malady with no name eh our critters know when one of us are not at our besta s well.Just a critter thing I suppose.I'll await to see your thoughts reguarding april A couple interesting wiki links and a couple even more interesting movies.I see Sweeny Todd made it in a bit for everyone
I have found that the only way to loose the WPP is to completely start over, it seems one misstep in the highlighting before one does the "cut" can add in all that extra formatting which if left will not remove easily,a learning curve for me, for the most part I've got it down now. I'm still computer illiterate, but I think I can at least give it the ole collage try
Have you got your training regimen for the operator recertification ready for Stealthy Pete and the gang for the upcomming rendezvous All operators need to be safe operators.
Eric-I see you survived the mucsical onslaught from last night.Nick and the gang were 'on' top notch performance and only one death that we know of, but she died happy.
Some interesting photo's again a little bit for everybody which is nice,kind of what this place is about ( no matter what some may think )The shot from Norway is interesting. What type of loco is that looks almost like a UK Deltic.
I guess your interview and some people recognizing you was your fifteen minutes of fame, not too bad and it's still paying of dividends as you will soon get a free lunch as well
Lars-I hope the managers suite was too your likeing the Dom was cold,and of a good vintage.Glad to see you even breifly,thanks for including a speacial cover shot for each and everyone of us
I'm glad that your family is allowing yoru streak to continue, I think that's important. Wehn ever you have the time Boris will have that hug for you and the suite will be kept clean and fee of critters Ragging Boris's will not keep me from the 12th, hopefully we can enjoy a few belts of the good stuff that day
Well no more admin work to do , so I guess I'll head off and make sure there is no further debris left from last night, that and Boris collected a huge bonaza of bottles,we should have some good cash for the return deposits tomorrow
Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!
Yes, 'tis the Larsman once again after an absence of over a month (last appeared on Valentine's Day). Anyway, just wanted to bring the fine "core" of gentlemen who keep this joint rockin' 'n rollin' up to date with some things in my life.
I've been working on this post for a few days, just a bit at a time. Also tried to play some catch up, but that will take much, much longer. Doubt that it will happen . . . msut tell youse guyz up front that my regular participation days are ovAH.
But first, Boris bring over that bottle of CC, I feel a thirst. Yeah, we're CLOSED, but as Manager Emeritus (sounds impressive!) I still have my key to the joint! Anyway, fix the crittAHs their special trays 'n I'll find a LARGE jar of PPF for you, but FIRST you must put me down. Good Grief Charlie Brown - your hugs would crush a Sherman tank.
Of course I've missed this place. Nary a day passed without my thinking of the good times 'round here 'n the interaction amongst the guys. That just can't be replaced 'n you'll never know how much I wanted to 'sign in' - but circumstances haven't allowed. Details have been provided to Cap'n Tom 'n I trust he's passed them on to those with a "need to know."
I have reviewed my email account and want to make special mention to Allan 'n Eric for their heartfelt thoughts. Many thanks. Also went back to the pages right after my "good bye" and found many kind words directed my way. Thanks again to all who have kept me in such esteem. I'm hardly worthy, but it's nice to be well thought of.
Couldn't help but notice the activity from the trolleyMAN Rob up in Ontario where the snow apparently doesn't want to go away. You've done good, but I'm not sure that Da Bossman made a good move with that larger dipper. This will only INCITE the Wolfman who believes he represents the downtrodden few 'round here. Gotta keep him in check, otherwise things can get a bit tough . . . Fill his black bag with soda bottles if he doesn't behave! <ha ha ha ha>
Nick is back and in rare form! Just like old times 'round here. AND who was it that used to tell us "one guy doesn't make a difference" Yeah, and my aunt would be called uncle if she could grow whiskAHs.
I just spoke with Cap'n Tom 'n he requested that I remove my remarks concerning the blast against him 'n the bar. So I have . . . bothers me very much that someone who was given every chance to join us never took the time to figure out what we do 'n why we do it. We're a FUN place for the exchange of CLASSIC TRAINS 'stuff' - don't like it Don't let the door hit ya in the keester. (Sorry Tom - but that's just the way it is! You don't deserve to be trashed that way nor does this bar!!!!)
Some good news from the homefront, at least for me. My sons have INSISTED that I participate in the St. Patrick's Day Parade tomorrow. They just wouldn't take no for an answer, nor would my buddies at the "lodge." So, once again, I'll be in it. Can't break the streak, or something like that. I'm so touched by it all that it's very hard to explain further. Family pitching in is what makes one feel blessed in situations that appear way over the top to handle.
Not sure when I'll get back to youse guyz, but I want to ask a favor of the few around here who keep things going. Let's make April 12th a big affair. It's the 3rd year of "Our" Place's existence in the ether. Send an email to at least one guy who might be persuaded to at least stop by for the day (Doug comes to mind). It shouldn't be that much of a chore to do. C'mon, youse guyz can do it - don't just sit on the sidelines 'n expect someone else to grab hold of the "ring." Go for it!! Hasn't Cap'n Tom earned at least that much in terms of support I think we know that answer!
I'll try my best to be here on Saturday, April 12th . . . even youse guyz who only come by on Monday thru Friday should find a way to be here on that day. Doesn't "count" to do it early - be here! OthAHwise Boris 'n Leon will seek you out.
I see the Larsman Mobile is parked along side the bar, so let's see what I can find to brighten up this day a bit in the form of covAHs - AND - photos!
Always a favorite of mine . . . reminds me of electric trains at Christmastime!
What's NOT to like about this one
You just gotta know Da Bossman loves this one!
Hard to believe those tuscan cars are gone . . .
Here's one for Shane!
For Rob!
For Shane 'n Rob!!
For Allan!
For Pete!
For Eric!
For Nick!
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Let's GO Mets!
Best to youse guyz! Ok Ruth, let's see what we can do to help the new manager with that <ahem> admin work . . . . <grin>
Until the next time!
Lars
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . March 16th thru 22nd: Sweeney Todd (1982) Starring: Angela Lansbury, George Hearn, Cris Groenendaal, Sara Woods & Edmund Lyndeck - and - ENCORE PRESENTATION of Major League (1989) starring Tom Beringer, Charlie Sheen, Margaret Whitton, James Gammon & Corbin Bernson. SHORT: The Three Stooges - A Bird In The Head (1946).
<Note: Major League first shown on Sunday March 26th thru April 1st, 2006>
Sweeney Todd - The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (1982)
PLOT SUMMARY: Times are hard in 1846 London and one must make do. So Nellie Lovett adds something extra to the meat pies she peddles on Fleet Street. The secret ingredient: freshly murdered victims of her partner in crime, barber Sweeney Todd. Composer/lyricist Stephen Sondheim refashions a macabre tale into a musical masterwork in this dazzling performance of the 1979 Broadway hit originally staged by Harold Prince. In her Tony-winning role (one of eight the show earned, including Best Musical), Angela Lansbury plays Nellie. George Hearn turns his stage role of twisted Sweeney into an Emmy-winning triumph. The score coils around itself in ever-tightening spirals. The lines ripple with black humor and madness. Enter Sweeney's tonsorial parlor. Attend the tale.
Times are hard in 1846 London and one must make do. So Nellie Lovett adds something extra to the meat pies she peddles on Fleet Street. The secret ingredient: freshly murdered victims of her partner in crime, barber Sweeney Todd. Composer/lyricist Stephen Sondheim refashions a macabre tale into a musical masterwork in this dazzling performance of the 1979 Broadway hit originally staged by Harold Prince. In her Tony-winning role (one of eight the show earned, including Best Musical), Angela Lansbury plays Nellie. George Hearn turns his stage role of twisted Sweeney into an Emmy-winning triumph. The score coils around itself in ever-tightening spirals. The lines ripple with black humor and madness. Enter Sweeney's tonsorial parlor. Attend the tale.
<from: amazon.com>
Major League (1989)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Cleveland Indians have gone 34 years without a division title. Team owner Donald Phelps has died, and his snobby wife Rachel Phelps, a former showgirl, has taken over as the new owner. Some in the media think Rachel shouldn't be the owner of a baseball team. Rachel hates Cleveland, so she makes plans to move the Indians to the warmer climate of Miami, Florida, but she can't break the team's lease with Cleveland unless the team's attendance for the season is below 800,000. Rachel's plan is to put together a team so awful that the season attendance will be lower than 800,000. Rachel and general manager Charlie Donovan hire a manager for the Indians Lou Brown, who has been the manager of the minor league Toledo Mud Hens for the past 30 years. Charlie then recruits some misfit players catcher Jake Taylor, who is a major league standout with knee problems, Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn, who is a pitcher who throws wildly, third baseman Roger Dorn, who is a product endorser and former major league star who will do anything to avoid injury, outfielder Willie Mays Hayes, who runs fast enough to steal a lot of bases but can't hit very well, and Pedro Cerrano, who is an outfielder who practices voodoo. As expected, the Indians get off to a slow start, but when they discover that Rachel wants the team to lose so she can move the team, the Indians get their act together and start winning games and raising their attendance, as Jake tries to win back his ex-girlfriend Lynn Wells, and the Indians do what they can to win the division title. Written by Todd Baldridge
The Cleveland Indians have gone 34 years without a division title. Team owner Donald Phelps has died, and his snobby wife Rachel Phelps, a former showgirl, has taken over as the new owner. Some in the media think Rachel shouldn't be the owner of a baseball team. Rachel hates Cleveland, so she makes plans to move the Indians to the warmer climate of Miami, Florida, but she can't break the team's lease with Cleveland unless the team's attendance for the season is below 800,000. Rachel's plan is to put together a team so awful that the season attendance will be lower than 800,000. Rachel and general manager Charlie Donovan hire a manager for the Indians Lou Brown, who has been the manager of the minor league Toledo Mud Hens for the past 30 years. Charlie then recruits some misfit players catcher Jake Taylor, who is a major league standout with knee problems, Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn, who is a pitcher who throws wildly, third baseman Roger Dorn, who is a product endorser and former major league star who will do anything to avoid injury, outfielder Willie Mays Hayes, who runs fast enough to steal a lot of bases but can't hit very well, and Pedro Cerrano, who is an outfielder who practices voodoo. As expected, the Indians get off to a slow start, but when they discover that Rachel wants the team to lose so she can move the team, the Indians get their act together and start winning games and raising their attendance, as Jake tries to win back his ex-girlfriend Lynn Wells, and the Indians do what they can to win the division title. Written by Todd Baldridge
<from: imdb.com>
SHORT: The Three Stooges - A Bird In The Head (1946)
PLOT SUMMARY: Moe, Larry and Curly are three paperhangers who are out of a job after they wreck Mr. Beedle's apartment, but Prof. Panzer offers to take care of them for the rest of their lives. He wants to transplant Curly's brain into Igor, his gorilla!
Moe, Larry and Curly are three paperhangers who are out of a job after they wreck Mr. Beedle's apartment, but Prof. Panzer offers to take care of them for the rest of their lives. He wants to transplant Curly's brain into Igor, his gorilla!
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend! Tom
Reminder: "Our: Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
Another day of rest is upon us ‘n one with a religious significance to many ‘round the world. Good day to reflect . . . not a bad time to get a leg up on the Saturday activity as well!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Saturday - March 15th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 198 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 10:01 AM ‘n 10:58AM: I cannot recall the last time our Resident Londoner in Wales appeared THRICE on a Saturday morning at the Bar by the Ballast!
From cosh to time zones to hurling:
Never heard of the expression "under the cosh," so I looked it up. Check out this link:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=under+the+cosh
Hmmmmmmmmm, really not ME! <yikes> That ain't ME! <ugh> However, I do know a guy or three who is precisely like that . . . you'd think - oh never mind! <grin>
But then I came up with this link:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/40/messages/646.html
That's more like it!
Hey Nick! Why does your profile indicate your time zone as -6 ???? You're a GMT sorta guy, Mate - go for it! <grin>
Amazing what one picks up from our friend, Nick:
http://www.tompgalvin.com/features/hurling.htm
Never heard of it! Really - ‘n here "me maternal grandma" was from the olde sod . . .
Situation with the "bug" has really had me down - began Sunday <last> but got into full swing by mid-week. Coughing spasms, sneezing, wheezing - you name it. Just a loveRly situation - I'd make a great date! Doc prescribed a couple of meds - just when I think the corner has been turned, along comes another "fit." Even tried a belt of "something warm," but it was only good for a short period - then made me feel worse than before. Can't win for losing . . . Poor Juneau, he just doesn't know what's going on with his "daddy." Funny how animals can pick up on human situations, eh
Liked the train station shot - that has to be your bride ‘n daughter <yes?> Good that they don't let you go off by yourself, otherwise you'd be spending the remainder of your days snapping shots of trains, traveling trains, picking up a living in a club here ‘n there ‘n having a blast. Hmmmmmm, need a Mate ‘Bout the only instrument I can handle is a rubber band stretched between two fixed points. <uh oh> Not really bad at finger-tapping, though - perhaps a latent drummer is "calling" to come out. <nah>
St. Pat's on this side of the pond is Monday - but it has set up a dilemma between the church ‘n the revelers. Seems that holy week has gotten in the way this year, so the "edicts" have been Posted. Here in St. Louis there are TWO parades - one is always on the Saturday before the 17th <going on as I type this> ‘n the other on "the" day - in an area known for Irish heritage <called Dog Town>. Ancient Order of Hibernians makes it a huge event each year ‘n I guess they're unafraid to tackle the "edicts" . . . We'll see if their names appear on the "list" at the Gate to Heaven, eh <grin>
For anyone unfamiliar with the term, "headshunt" - check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headshunt
Many thanx for the 2nd visit - didn't really expect any action on Saturday, much less the morning. Always appreciate your visits ‘n generosity <of course>!
Ah, I see visit #3 has taken place: O'Clancy Brothers you say The only Clancy's I'm familiar with are well known in the U.S. We hear their <early> music all over the dial at this time of year. Check out this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clancy_Brothers#The_Early_Years
Shine on Brighter was always a favorite of mine . . . If I hear Brennan on the Moor one more time, I'll . . . . <grimace>
Cheers, Mate!
Page 198 - Ron <DD1> at 11:29 AM: "Our" Place visitor - 12 Jul 2007 thru 15 Mar 2008:
Page 198 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 10:39 PM: Live from the Pool Room at "Our" Place - Nick ‘n his Big River Band . . . . let ‘er rip guys <oh, I see you have!>
Page 198 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:54 PM ‘n 11:19 PM: Still not giving up on the April-May timeframe . . . as long as you remain flexible, perhaps something will shake loose. Been thinking of a thing or two ‘n will get an Email off once I begin to feel better. Still pretty much same-ole, same-ole in that department. <groan>
That problem with the Forums I encountered had everything to do with the wide-page-phenom. In my case it happened because I copied directly from a Post of mine RATHER than going to "edit" then copying it. <That's why some Posts from the old Thread come out with the WPP because you cannot use edit since they locked that Thread>. Anyway, in this instance, everything that followed was skewed - can't explain it, but that's what happened. So, when I deleted the Post with the WPP, everything cleared up. Not saying that's the ONLY way to get a WPP, but this time it really caused problems . . . I guess if someone else had Posted after my WPP Post, perhaps it would have shown up - but in my follow-up, all I got was a long, vertical BLANK space <where the 12 fotos should've been>. Strange . . .
Even sent a "heads up" to our Forum's "hall monitor" - but as expected, never did get an acknowledgment . . .
Fergie Nah, I hadn't heard from him - just picked up something he had Posted elsewhere . . . saw him logged in a few times lately 'n got curious.
As always appreciate the reading matter - however, I'm in no shape to tackle it yet, so it's on my "stack o' stuff" for later on . . . thanx, though!
Sunday - March 16th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 198 - Eric <EricX2000> at 2:26 AM: Don't know how or why you've elected to become the night owls of night owls - but you WIN, hands down! <geesh> Good thing Leon has such a mild disposition, along with the galley crew . . . You picked a great nite, though - as Nick ‘n his Marauders <uh oh> were performing to a packed pool room - all the Gentry had found niches for themselves ‘n we spotted quite a few of the Mentor Village notables dancing ‘til the wee hours. I believe Nick described at least one . . .
Interesting spate of fotos. Must say that the shot from the cab of that tower on the left looks to me like so many New England scenes from "back in the day." Majority of my travels were on the New Haven between Grand Central Terminal ‘n New London, CT . . . so, I'm no help. Undoubtedly the coalminer will come forward with an answer!
Liked the Trondheim, Norway shot - very clean station <except for one piece of paper> . . . doubt you'd see anything like that in too many places. Also liked the Kalamazoo foto - what else do they have to welcome <grin>
So why didn't you SAY so Now that you've EXPLAINED it a bit, sure - I'm familiar with North Freedom, WI. <yeah, right>
Thanx for the elaboration on that winter foto from the other day - military personnel, eh Not RR personnel. Hmmmmmmm.
While passageways aboard sleeper cars of "normal size" are a bit tight when two try to pass one another - it's a totally different experience aboard Renaissance. A most interesting way to meet people. <grin>
We'll have to keep any eye on Wolfman Pete <at Rendezvous III> as he sits for his recertification for "Throttleman" of the S-Capades. Glad you let me know . . . <uh oh> And to think Pete thinks so highly of YOU!
Oh, received 'n responded to your Email - thanx! After 5 successive nights in the reclining chair, managed to get into bed for the past two . . . slow progress. <arrrrgggghhhh>
Thanx for the visit, chat, fotos ‘n business! <KaChing> <KaChing>
Emporium Theatre listings a bit later . . .
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Wow, a lot of nois... sorry, music tonight! Leon, Saturday night, time for my Filet Mignon with mushrooms! Keith's!
A lot of people and the entire track gang here. I saw Boris' shed has only three walls standing tonight!
Nick – I am just back from tonight’s show! Well done! Good songs! Will this be a weekly tradition? Same about me, I can’t stand snow. But I wanted to make the boss happy, he (and Juneau) loves it. Nice photo from Killarney. At least I have heard the name of that town before! Tom – You don’t know where to find North Freedom, WI? Where have you been all your life? North Freedom is 6-7 miles west of Baraboo and Baraboo is 40 some miles north of Madison. The winter photo shows military personnel helping digging out that steam locomotive stuck in the snow. Rendezvous photos! Reminds me there is only 60 days to Our Place’s 3rd Annual Rendezvous!! Photo 8, Pete at the throttles of the S-Capades! He is at the throttles and I remember he was saying over and over again, “Look, no hands! No hands!”The passageway in the Renaissance sleeper is really very narrow. I guess one almost has to walk sideways. Blurry ending?!? Hmmm. Ron – Very sad to hear your decision to leave the bar. I think you and I have at least one thing in common, electric locomotives! I hope I’ll get a chance one day to see a photo of your class D locomotive. Rob – That snowy picture was taken by my grampa in the 1920’s. I am glad I wasn’t there. I wouldn’t call it being a star but after being interviewed in the local paper there were a few people that actually recognized me. Unbeliveable. Thanks for the article on TH&B’s Berkshires! Interesting! So they had only two of them? Maybe CM3 knows where this is? Somewhere south of Boston. Don’t remember the name of the tower. South Station, Boston. May 1993.Trondheim, Norway. 1968.
Eric
Well well looks like Nick and the boyz have the place jumping, that or the Mentor narrow guage either derailed or at least suffered a boiler explosion At least the crowds happy including that rather frightfull women grinding against the mike stand <uh oh >Anywho I think I'll grab another guiness and hangout near the back to escape any potential tear gas or water cannon barrages should the concert kick up another notch.
Another encore to end my Saturday participation, a third and final TH&B bit
Berkshire's In Ontario Classic Steam #25 As stated before the Berkshire class steam locomotive was the NKP's steam era claim to fame. The unusual on the fairly regular steam roster upto that point. It was a wheel arrangement that did not see wide spread use, but it did however make it up accross the boarder on another anachronistic RR the Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo RY itself a NYC controlled company. In feb, 1928 , the TH&B placed its order with the Montreal Locomotive Works for locomotives #201 and 202, 2-8-4 Berkshire Class locomotives.With their frieght tonnage increasing during the roaring 20's the TH&B's standard 100 series Consolidations were straining to keep up the fast freight schedules, and the Railway was desperatly seeking suitable power for it's "mountain district " ( Niagara Escarpment ). The TH&B's steam philosophy never wandered too far from that of it's parent co the NYC.It was the NYC that had ordered a new type of locomotive from Lima with the 2-8-4 config for trials on their Bostan and Albany Railroad where they would face the heavy twisting mountain grades through the Berkshire MTN's, and thus giving the locomotive type it's name.In 1926 the NYC placed it's order for 45 of these monsters and assigned them to its B&A railroad. They became classes A-1a and A-1b, with the road numbers 1400-1444 inclusive. Then along came the TH&B. The problem for them, of coarse was to reduce the times taken to get freight up the Niagara escarpment between Kinnear Yard and Vinemount. A grade of only 1.04% but a rise of 216 feet in only 4.41 miles. The existing Consolidations with a starting tractive effort of 45,780lbs were being quickly outclassed by the loads. In July of 1927 the TH&B rented a NYC H-10b Mikado 335 to test on this route. Between Sept and October they rented B&A 1433 a two month old Berk to also test on this route. It was decided that the Berks were the right fit and two were promptly ordered.For reasons of economy it was decided to build the locomotives in Canada, Lima had no Canadian subsidiary so tooling would have been prohibitivly expensive for such a small order. As luck would have it Alco had just finished an order for 12 Berks of their design for the C&NW so the patterns were promptly rushed to MLW Alco's Canadian wing . On July 8th and 12th 1928,201, and 202 arrived on the property. 201 going immediatly into service and 202 did a public display for the company for a few days. The Berks regular assignment was the starlight freight run between Hamilton and Michigan Centrals Victoria Yard in Fort Erie Ontario, a 50 mile run. In 1931 the eastern terminus for this run was the TH&B / NYC Montrose Yard in Niagara falls Ontario ( Now a casino )They were run steadily for 25 years ending up being scrapped in 1953 with only the bell from 201 surving and on display in the Steam and tech museum in Ottawa. Specs on TH&B 201, 202 L - 87 feet 51/4 inches in overall length 621,000 lbs at full load 393.000 lbs just locomotive weight 150 long inch fire box 96 inches wide 7,323 sq ft of heating surface 4,742 sq inches was the heating tubes 2,243 sq inches of super heating flues 240psi tractive effort of 69,000lbs 63 inch drivers with Baker valve gear driving 14" cylnders In 1946 they were rebuilt with D2 duplex stokers to get the 16t of coal from the tender into that huge firebox. The locomotive was capable of 65 miles per hour and they did handle passenger trains on the escarpment when the mikes or pacifics were unavailable. Rob
Well good evening Leon made it in just before H&H took to their favourite mode of transportation at any rate I'll snag a small steak and a regularly coloured guiness I can't imagine the failed green concotion Nick alluded to
Eric-I have to say that is a cold looking and feeling picture , liked it though Those early roads in the 30's were barley passable oil sprayed rutted affairs , likely more passable in winter when they were frozen . Any timetables I've seen from the time's were showing prices not all that different between the modes , the buses were about a dollar cheaper but ran less often and carried less passengers.
So you were an internet star for CB were you , I guess then the free lunch is a good thing
Nick- That's quite the play list,should be a good concert however. I've noted that the Mentor fusliers will be on hand in case the "games" get out of hand. Why does the roast pig bare an unsettling resemblance to Boris's clan ( possibly why he's hiding in his shed )
Nice picture sir loved it
Glad you enjoyed the GT stuff 've found a few more that were on the railimages account that was lost so hopefully I can get them loaded up to the "bucket" sooner as oposed to later.
Tom-Well not to worry we can work exporail in when and where it fits all skeds Great pictures even if they didn't behave the first time you attempted to post them. that sort of thing used to happen to me before I switched over to the higher speed internet,still does occationally. I wonder if it's a comaptibility issue in the forums software, a random glitch as it were.
Thanks for the use of the large gold plated dipper, I shall dip once a month for the next while.Inspector Clueless has his crack servailance team on the stealthy one <uh oh> if nothing else it will give them practice,No Boris they are not here to fix the cracks in the plaster he comes out of his shed for that
Seeing the "ground rules " again is not neccessaritly a bad thing Did Fergie say how long he will be out on the briny tossed
AWWWWRIGHHHTTTTT-Well Hello baby.......................................................what cho doin later sweet thang.....ah Jaysus,wheres me feckin glasses,I cant see a dam ting in here-roight-dis is me band-We`re called Big River and so is dis song----3,4-go
O.K guys brace yourselves-we just had a real strange one for our first booking of the night so the guys are all ready to be let out of the cage-oh lord theres gonna be some strangeness tonight-I think I may have hit the ceiling for weirdness tonight already-there was a wee old lady there tonight-sat at the back for a few songs,then got up to dance,threw off her jacket and was on the floor with the skin tight leather strides,translucent blouse and hunch back-also the yellow skin tone of somebody with nothing to lose-great to see people letting go
Although,that said-on this particular night,when Wales have just won the most important possible trophy,outside of the world cup,in international rugby,I fully expect to be kept awake all night by various sons of the village trying to get home-and why not-PARTY TIME-"Dis one`s called `Mean eyed cat`"
So-would yez like a few songs from the old country ??-steady now....jaysus,watch me guitar there..............who let him in here ?...............
Right -Tony is gonna play some wonderful Irish songs now-the rest of us are going for a quick pint,a wee and a crafty smoke.............
O.K-playtime-This is where Simon and myself swap instruments for a song-a special request for our ever genial host-as good a cover version as we can manage of "Whiskey in the jar"---
da da da-dada (dadaladadadada) da dada (dadaladadadadada).....................................
As I was walking over,the Cork and Kerry mountains....................................
Wait for my daddyo,wait for my daddyo theres whiskey in the jar...
That first line just cries out to have Phil Lynott singing it...........bless his memory-another lost talent-so many gone.....
O.K boys-its country time,lets turn them amps up `til they squeal and see if we cant find that front of the beat 2/4 groove we had going last time..
O.K-Blue Train-in `A`---lovely -1,2,3,4,5,6,7 & :-check the you tube video
Ah-looks like Tony needs to sit down for a minute or two so we will have a few minutes of free-form jazz-just to shake people up..O.K guys -so what?. . . . . . . . come on then Simon-yeah,so what,from the top.............go
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
G'day <again> Gents!
Yeah, I know I said no more for this day . . . however, that problem was driving me nuts. I believe I figured it out . . . things look okay now with my 12 foto spate . . . surely didn't the 1st or 2nd times . . .
Problem was with a PREVIOUS Post of mine that had formatting errors - I couldn't find 'em, but there was a message stating this each time I tried to send it. I finally retyped it over again in my WP 'n it went out - BUT it was a WIDE-PAGE-PHENOM. Once I deleted that Post - the following ones cleared up. Meaning my 1st foto spate magically appeared - along with the 2nd one with all fotos looking as they should. Confused Don't be . . . just thought I'd share this with any of you who find these things challenging!
= = = = = = = = = =
So, here's the Post that I deleted which was prior to the foto spate . . . .
It appears an appropriate time to ENCORE! some info from Page 1 of this Thread. Information that is germaine to the way we do things 'round here 'n have done 'em that way since the inception of "Our" Place on 12 Apr 2005.
Anyway, "count it" as an ENCORE! from me . . . <grin>
As requested by Kalmbach, the old Thread has been shut down and the new begins today, January 1st, 2007.What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains." The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains. All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.Objective: Have fun!Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch. Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh Final "stats" for the "old" Thread at mid-night!Replies: 9,013Views: 163,151 Pages: 451 For those who may require it, the link to the "old" Thread is:http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587 Tom (siberianmo) Proprietor, "Our" Place
As requested by Kalmbach, the old Thread has been shut down and the new begins today, January 1st, 2007.
What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.
History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.
Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains."
The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains.
All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.
Objective: Have fun!
Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch.
Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.
Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Final "stats" for the "old" Thread at mid-night!
Replies: 9,013
Views: 163,151
Pages: 451
For those who may require it, the link to the "old" Thread is:
http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587
Tom (siberianmo)
Proprietor, "Our" Place
Here it comes - one more time - my ENCORE foto display for this Photo Posting Saturday! All of these have been seen before - but thought you might enjoy 'em again!
(3) Toronto bound! <Rendezvous I>
(4) Rob 'n Ted at Toronto's Union Station <Rendezvous I>
(5) Doug arriving downtown St. Louis <Rendezvous II>
(6) Doug 'n Pete <Rendezvous II>
(7) Doug <background> 'n Eric <foreground> checking out the Can-Am Railway's Mountain Village <Rendezvous II>
(8) Pete is <or isn't> at the throttles of the S-Capades! <Rendezvous II>
(9) VIA Rail Renaissance Sleeper at Montreal, QC, Canada <Canadian Rail Adventure 2007>
(10) That's stealthy Pete! <Canadian Rail Adventure 2007>
(11) Narrow passageway in the Renaissance sleeper! <Canadian Rail Adventure 2007>
(12) A blurry ending to day one! <Canadian Rail Adventue 2007>
Now, if the first batch should mysterioulsy appear - I'll try to delete 'em . . . which they have 'n I did! <crazy>
EMPORIUM Theatre listings tomorrow . . .
See y'all on Monday!
I've had some STRANGE things happen on these Forums but this is a first . . .
Just Posted 12 fotos - got "credit" for it as my cyber name 'n time of Post appeared. But the area where the Post should be is totally BLANK.
As stated earlier, NOTHING is going right for me today - 'n feeling as I do, well perhaps a sledge hammer . . . <nah> <groan>
So, I'll try one more time - if that doesn't work - see y'all on Monday!
Good day to all. A round of drinks on me. Due to differences of opinion between the management, and me this will be my final visit to the tavern by the tracks. My agenda is much different from that presented on this site. I am not a trolley kind of guy, but there are segments that I find most interesting never the less. The same can be said about classic trains. To me, a little goes a long way. I'm not into old timetables, three stooges, inanimate characters like Leon and Boris or classic trains of the past. My biggest interest is electric engines, past present and future. Steam is second followed in no particular order by bridges, unusual trains and general topics of interest. The latter may not have anything to do with classic trains, but in a real world bar setting, many other topics other than trains would be discussed.
I must thank Eric for turning me on to the Swedish electric engine, which I am now constructing a 1/8 scale model. I also want to thank all who contributed much needed data about the engine. I could not have gotten as far as I have without their help. I also want to thank all those from across the oceans who provided us all with the "other" side of railroading, not just the "American" view. I want to thank Tom for his diligent work to keep this tavern going. He makes a valid point about participation, but in my defense, I view the site as I would a real world bar. I come in, spread a few greetings, buy a round and sit on my stool. There's no time limit, no pressure to chat. I listen and if appropriate, chime in with my own views. I'm not pressured to return every day or to explain my absence. If a comment is directed toward me, I'm obliged to answer, but I don't acknowledge general comments directed toward any one in particular. I try to research topics, not necessarily railroad related, that I think would be of interest, based on comments made by others regarding such things as food, cars, ships, music, etc. This research sometimes takes me several hours to dig up and present, hence the long absences. I do have a life other than on the computer. I have household chores, model building and many other things that a retired person has to do in his daily life.
Lastly, let me just say, due to my age, (73), I don't take kindly to criticism. It would not be tolerated in a real world bar and it will not be tolerated here. As I see it, "Our place" is being run by one person's rules and that doesn't fly with me. I demand the freedom to say what I think whether anyone agrees with me or not. Over and OUT.
DD1
Just a quick update-apparently the O`Clancy brothers (Liam,Donal,Eammon,Liam & Mikey) have crawled out of their hovel and come to party-hopefully they will follow the trail of pork rinds and Guinness bottles straight to the lock-up (One of the better integrated Mentor families-they made the transition from the squalid bogs of Munster to the equally foetid depths of Mentor Hollow with enviable ease.....).
Wont attempt a match commentary as this k/board not equipped for Gaelic........stay loose
Well back for lunch-I`ll try a Belfast fry with all the trimmings & a pint of green dyed Harp lager to chase it down please (experiments with green Guinness proved both messy & unpleasant )
Looks like Mentor is brimfull of happy revellers even at this early hour-The Mentor Hibernians apprentices pipe band are marching south whilst the Sons of Maeve silver marching band are heading north-careful management should see all parties at the zeppelin field in time for the annual Hurley match ( a sport so violent that it has been incorporated into special forces basic training programmes ).
O.K-looks like about time to fire up the spit-roast -looking at the size of that pig it could take a while................
TOM-sorry you are still under the cosh old friend-sounds like one of those viral `flu kinda things--NO FUN -Hadn`t meant to overlook your mention of `Whiskey`-it was on my list but slipped through the net-like you,I prefer the less messed with versions-Thin Lizzy`s `60`s classic is about as far from the original as it should go-we stick to a more traditional 2/4 time signature..
ROB- A grand spread of C.N/G.T power
PETE-Likewise with the Shildon collection-yes that 7f does look rather fine
ERIC-That winter shot has me shivering...............
Right-back to it-will work backwards through post as the day progresses-time to light a fire under that pig (and one under Boris,on general principle..)
Heres a 20 to cover beers for the boys as they arrive (and a medicinal brandy or two for the guvnor )-enjoy the day !
Later,
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Mallow-Tralee trains cross at Killarney,Co Kerry-a typical piece of Irish whimsy-one train has to back out onto a long headshunt before reversing ...........enjoy
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Still feeling like a penny waiting for change . . . but figured I'd best put my best foot forward ‘n get this out <yes, Boris - I type with my toes!> <geesh>
Help yourself to the breakfast buffet - coffee 'n pastries!
TWO CONTESTs UNDERWAY - Both CLOSED for entries!!
When will we reach Page 200 Bonus: Who will make that Post
Participants:
(1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)
(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)
(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)
(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)
(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)
(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)
(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)
WHO will make the 4,000th reply at the bar AND when
(1) Pete sez Rob on Mar 22nd
(2) Rob sez Pete on Mar 16th
(3) Eric sez Allan on Mar 21st
(4) CM3 Shane sez Rob on Mar 13th
(5) Ron sez Rob on Mar 10th
(6) Allan sez Pete on Mar 15th
Comments from the Proprietor
For anyone interested in the cyber whereabouts of some of our PG <periphery guys> - do a SEARCH. You may be surprised . . . but then again, probably not. "Our" Place is first ‘n foremost with our regulars, but not so with those who zip in ‘n out . . . Fergie is back at sea, by the by.
Friday - March 14th: <all times Central daylite>
Page 197 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:46 AM: You WIN the bet! I couldn't look a beer in the "eye," much less a case. Did take a belt of ‘something warm' the other evening - stopped the coughing spasms - but then made me feel even worse <probably a reaction with the meds>. <arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh> Thanx for the well wishes . . . Figure I'll be okay by the Rendezvous <grin>!
Scenic Route info conjures up images - lots of images of great looking streamliners, loaded with passengers heading to hither ‘n yon - ahhhhhh, if only . . .
Appreciate the visit, chat, quarters ‘n ROUND!
Page 198 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:34 AM ‘n 10:44 AM: In with a twofer to help keep things alive here at the Saloon by the Siding! Way to go!
Responded to your Email response to my response . . . <huh> Will say this up front - from mid-August on, the bride is back in class . . . <barf>
Now wait a minute - I've traveled with Wolfman Pete on several occasions ‘n NEVER saw him SIT on his "black bag." Good Gawd Gertie - with what he's got inside <imagination takes hold> sitting on "it" would be the last thing to do. No, one does NOT sit on those things one cherishes! <hmmmmmm> Gotta work on that phraseology . . . .
Seems like yesterday when the cry went out - let's keep "our oil" for ourselves. Can't fault Canadians for feeling the same way. The natural resources of one's land first "belong" to the people of that land <I know that would most certainly spur an opposite point of view - but here at the bar, it's just my OH-PIN-YUN!> So anyway, the U.S. capped its wells . . . we can't get Congress to authorize drilling here or there ‘n meanwhile the rest of the world has us over a barrel <no pun intended>. Makes me wonder if someone has been asleep at the wheel since the FIRST oil embargo in the 1970s . . . . <arrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh>
Greenwood foto was the result of luck . . . couldn't have planned for that one, eh So sorry that the "one" I took in the subway came out so blurry - that was one where I snapped it off as a train was coming in - looked great on the view finder, but when viewed on the ‘puter, looked horrible. Tried all sorts of remedies, but nothing worked. <groan>
Holistic healing, eh About this point, a dancer rattling this ‘n that would do me in. The bride tried it . . . <uh oh>
Oh yeah, that Empire State Express looks a bit familiar . . . . wonderin' if I did one of those in my Nostalgia Passenger Trains series . . . will have to check. At any rate, nicely done ‘n makes one wish for a return to those times, eh
Most kind of you to drop that twenty on us . . . I think Ruth put it in the "box" as we've had so few at the bar . . . Many thanx for the Posts ‘n chat!
Page 198 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:59 PM: "In" with CHEERS for the gang <so few of us that there are>.
Spate of 6 fotos very well done ‘n will tide us over ‘til your return . . . which BETTER not be late Monday! <uh oh> By the by, when did you take those photos
Well wishes ‘n ROUND most appreciated!
Page 198 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 11:01 PM ‘n 11:31 PM: Back with yet another twofer - what are you trying do Become another "20 fingers" Good start to the ENCORE! Saturday though . . .
Nice spate of "lost roll" fotos . . .
So at least Lars wasn't the only Manager we've had who was "on" to Wolfman Pete, eh To hear him explain it <every 3rd word intelligible, mind ya> he makes it appear as if WE are making this up. <yikes> Go for it, Rob - the resources of Inspector Clueless of the local constabulary‘n Mr. Doyle <PI> are yours when needed . . .
Many thanx for the outstanding support . . . your larger dipper is hangin' on your "hook" - go fer it!
Page 198 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1 AM: Your Email with flight data received ‘n responded to . . . thanx!
I don't believe any of us needs to be an economist to at least put a finger on part of the problem with petrol prices: Speculators ‘n the falling value of the dollar <US> . . . so "they" will get what "they" can ‘n "we'll" pony up . . . <barf>
Perhaps it's just me this day, but I can't make heads or tails out of that winter foto . . .
Never heard of North Freedom, WI - but like the foto!
You just have to witness Wolfman Pete's "attachment" to the "black bag." It's almost compulsive in nature . . . can't seem to carry on without it. Hmmmmmm, I wonder what he keeps in it that is sooooooooooo important ‘n precious Little kids have their "blankey" - big kids have their . . . <ooooooops, this is a family site, eh> ‘n Juneau has his squeaky toys. Something for everyone . . .
Many thanx for the visit ‘n good cheer!
Page 198 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 6:18 AM: Youse guyz are gonna play ALL of those Sounds like a great time in the offing . . .
I put up a link for Whiskey in the Jar some Pages ago <you didn't pick up on it> - never mind - just one of my favorites. Don't like the ruination of it by the modern groups - like it the way it was meant to be done . . . Just my two cents
Well wishes appreciated along with your visit 'n good CHEER!
Reminder: Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Not sure I'll be back this day . . .
Well good day and top o` the mornin to yez-just a quick first post to put up the set list for tonights show-the band are in fine fettle and the big amplifiers have been dusted down ready.
Right-off with Boris,copperkettle and the girls to deck the streets with green & orange bunting-back for a spot of lunch and a pint hopefully...
Cracking pix yesterday everybody-will settle down for a proper browse later when the small one is packed off to a party
P.S-TOM-hope you`re feeling better old mate.........
Leon, a #3 special, please! Curly fries would taste good.
Nice day here in the desert. Maybe a little bit too windy, but... Kind of slow day at the Bar by the Siding.
Tom – I am sure you are right about $4 gasoline and people’s driving habits. But I thought 3,200 miles would make a pretty bad dent in my wallet considering my trip to the old country in August. Being in the “chips” and you are not talking about potaoes? Hmm, I wonder what the heck you are talking about? Hmm. I know I have shown this picture before,but maybe all the snow will make you feel a little bit better!?!In the 1920’s.
Sent a mail.CM3 – They are running freight trains every day on that track but at a very low rate of speed. I have never seen the black bag being chained to Pete’s wrist. maybe he has some kind of an electronic device sounding an alarm in case it gets more than 5 inches from him. Rob – I thought the roads in the 30’s were not like they are today. It was probably much cheaper to take the bus than the interurban. The gas price is going up 2-4 cents/gallon every day now. It is crazy. I don’t know how much the bag agent knows about Pete’s use of the bag as a seat cushion. I don’t want him to get into any trouble so I am not going to say anything. No professionally done photo for my 2500th trip to Cracker Barrel. I was feautured on their website for 3 years starting in 2003. That is enough. A free meal is better. Empire State Express was still running in 1954. Left Grand Central Terminal at 9:00 AM every day. In the opposite direction it arrived to the same station at 9:30 PM.Thanks for the photos from the lost roll! The TH&B’s Waterford Subdivision, partly owned by NYC and Michigan Central!?! So that is how they (NYC and MC) made it possible to run Empire Express to Toronto? Interesting! Nice looking locomotive, #103! Pete – A nice collection of steam locomotives! 1980, that is 28 years ago! I noticed that the top locomotive was equipped with four signal lights, but the rest had only one each (in different positions). What decided what number of lights to use and the positions of them? C&NW class R-1, #1385 , 4-6-0. Mid-Continent Railway Museum, North Freedom, WI.
All right Leon another Canadian please. Here is another re-roll for an early start to encore saturday. It's already Saturday here.Some more local to me train stuff, hope everyone enjoys it.
CLASSIC STEAM # 31 THE TH&B's WATERFORD SUBDIVISION The original concept of the Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo Railway was to serve American Intrests by building a link between Buffalo via Hamilton into Toronto.The line would start from a juntion point with the Michigan Central in Welland Ontario.From there it would run through Hamilton and onto Toronto via running rights on the GT at Bayview jct in Burlington Ontario ( known as Hamilton West by the CPR/TH&B ). This is a bit ironic as the TH&B was bult to break the GT's monopoly on traffic through Hamilton.Another branch of the TH&B would lead west of Hamilton, pass through Brantford, and conect back to the Michigan Central at Waterford Ontario, thus tapping the farm and industrial traffic of this area as well, also challenging the might of the GT in that part of the province. No fewer than four existing railway companies had their fingers in the TH&B pie from the beginning. These were the New York Central,Michigan Central, The Canada Southern( both NYC subsidiaries ) and the Canadian Pacific, the CPR's chunk was 27% of the TH&B.Whereas the two American controlled companies the MC and the CASO, cut accross southern Ontario from Buffalo to Detroit,neither had access to the large urban markets of Toronto or Hamilton.The TH&B would provide them that access.In the peninsular part of Niagara, the TH&B became the shortest route between Toronto and Buffalo.Today that section of the TH&B remains in use as the CPR's Welland and Hamilton subdivisions.The line west of Hamilton to Waterford is no longer in use by the original company. It was in 1892, that the TH&B purchased the existing route of the Brantford Waterloo & Lake Erie Railway which had been completed in 1885 to link Brantford and Waterford. Three years later it was extended into Hamilton. From the TH&B's main facility at Aberdeen yard in Hamilton ( still used today by the CPR ) the train left Hamiltion rumbled accross the tressle at Binkley Hollow and climbed up the 1.5% grade up the forested face of the Niagara escarpment through the Dundas valley to the aptly named Summit Station ( flag stop shelter only ). From here the tracks emerged from the valley onto the gently rolling farmlands on there way to Jerseyville. A MC style station was built here complete with a frieght shed and combination depot waiting room. After passing over several more bridges, and then under the GT at Cainsville the TH&B entered Brantford, where a modern brick CPR style depot waited for them ( still in Brantford now a steakhouse by the casino ).After taking on water the trains would head out along the Grand river through ,more rolling farmlands to Scotland. Between Scotland and Waterford the trains would cross more farmland and cross beneath the hight steel tressel of the Lake Erie and Northern Interurban.Finally stopping at the frame station of the MC on the old CASO ROW.Unlike the eight passenger train a day the TH&B ran on the Peninsula to Toronto line,only two trains served the Waterford branch. In edition to the few carloads of produce and the passengers this line served the heavy industries in and around Brantford, York farm Implements, Cockshutt tractors, Massy Fergusson, White Tractors, a CIL plant in Scotland and many lumber yards and coal dealers.As roads were improved through the area and car travel became more of the norm the passenger trains were withdrawn and ended in 1960.Freight service lasted until 1989 when the route was abandonned.Not entirly due to traffic downturns either, some of the farm equipment plants did close but other industries had oppened in it's their place.A land slippage along a section of fill ( caused by farm run off and the run off from a large carwash ) washed out the fill along the Grand River near Waterford. The CPR who now 100% owned the TH&B ( this occured in the 60's when the NYC was in it's death throws )felt that it wasn't worth repairing the line due to it's lower traffic density.The trackage in Brantford was connected to the CN yard at their Station ( VIA Station ) and CN and local railink continue the service to the plants,still several thousand carloads a year !Trackage through Jerseyville and Cainsville are still operated by Railink who run the steel slab trains to and from Stelco's Nanticoke Plant. The Jerseyville and Summit stations have been moved to Westfield Pioneer Village where they have been restored as part of that historic site in the villiage of Rockton.
Two shots of the preserved TH&B Concolidation 103 at Westerfield Pioneer Villiage.It's displayed in front of the old Jersyville Station.
Good evening Leon , yes I did make it back in didn't think I would originally.I see that with dabossman under the weather it's been a dismal day here at the bar by the sidng. I think just a small personal pizza tonight with a plain Jane Canadian. I'll save round money for another day when there will be more folks stopping in.
Pete- Some nice shots today all good looking loco's. Nice to see some ones with tenders on board.What's this about you not being around for another weekend . I don't know,we'll have to consultthe employee handbook reguarding the amount of weekend days off. Guy must think he's retired or something
Well since it's a bit slow here's a couple more shots from the lost roll for everyone.
CN GP40-2's laying over at Battlecreek
A CN train on the move through Aurora Ill
GT train at Delray JCT in Detroit
enjoy
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