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Classic Train Questions Part Deux (50 Years or Older)

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, April 15, 2024 9:10 AM

Change ogf ownership of the operation, with lille or no cgange of service sdoes not make a different service for answering this question.  But here is a hint:  One see saw, and  through much of the classic period, three different services with Stillwell equipment, with one of these only within the city, plus there were two other services linked to the city but outside.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, April 15, 2024 1:53 PM

rcdrye

C&O(of I) and EL shared a couple of miles of track east of State Line Crossing in Indiana, including the Hammond Station.

 
C&O had trackage rights over Erie/EL between State Line and Griffith.
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Posted by Overmod on Monday, April 15, 2024 6:41 PM

Erie, of course.  Meeting up with H&M, but NOT with H&M-PRR joint service (which was Gibbs).  Then you could get on BMT equipment, or toddle north on the IRT to the NYW&B.  And (later) New Haven.  C&EI, C&WI, let me see if I remember any other pre-preservation uses...

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 10:02 PM

You got seven, and there are two more.  One associated with Erie, but not Erie, and one a north-south oriented interurban that may be used today as a freight branch of a very large freight railroad system.

Note that the NYW&B MUs were not used by the NYNH&H as MUs out of NYCity, but replaced the last New Haven woods in Boston commuter service and were replaced post-WWII by parlor heavyeweights reseated for commuter service, keeoing their existing air-conditioning.   Boston still had plenty of woods on the B&M.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, April 17, 2024 8:44 AM

Considering its ownership and location, the interurban, whech always had dreight interchange with steam railroads, went somwhat "far-a-field for a Stillwell design.

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, April 17, 2024 7:18 PM

I had Susy-Q in there but the Kalmbach site crash took it out!

Does London & Port Stanley count?

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, April 18, 2024 5:37 AM

Bingo!   And i thought you pointed out the one missimng, the 9ith, and its connections (ownership and partisal terminal use and a bus connection) with Erie.  Possibly it was RC. 

And in addfition, do ask nthe next question.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, April 21, 2024 7:34 AM

Possubly you considered the Syusquahana's use of Erie-originated Stillwells as part of the Erie's and did not included it for that reason.  Pkease do ask the next questioin.

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, April 27, 2024 6:22 AM

No, I had Suzy-Q as its own line-item, and it got lost in the sauce somewhere.

Sticking with Stillwells, what was unusual about the wheels on the New Haven cars?  (One modeler's article noted that the old Kit Bits 98 Erie-style trucks were the right part to model those cars... but not quite so.)

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, April 29, 2024 6:04 PM

The "New Haven Stillwells" were originally MU New York Westchester & Bostion cars with motors.  Unlike most passenger-car truvks, they employed both coil and leaf springs in the truck, from photos it seems thatb the bolster was connected to each truck frame by a leaf spring and the two frames to fhe four journal-boxes bu coil springs. The motors had been removed.  They had bwwenb the wheel-barrow-suspended AC-commutator type as used on current New Haven MUs.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, April 29, 2024 6:28 PM

But what about the wheels?

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