Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).

[henry6]

The obvious then would be rag or towel,to wipe handrail-grabiron.

[DSO17]

henry6

I'm willing to bet: gloves.

    Close, I'm thinking of something a little more passenger friendly.

[henry6]

I'm willing to bet: gloves.

[DSO17]

     I left out the dash. Should be "Have Train - Will Haul". Around 1960 there were a lot of slogans going around based on the popular TV western "Have Gun - Will Travel".

     Here's a question that came up recently at a large railroad facility where a couple of the old passenger stepboxes are being used to reach parts on higher shelves. The only man who could answer it had worked in passenger service many years ago: Inside each stepbox is a little rectangular compartment or cubbyhole. What was it supposed to hold?

[Texas Zepher]

DSO17

Bevier & Southern ?

"Have Train Will Haul"?

And we have a winner.  

The B&S connected to the CB&Q in Bevier Missouri (about 1/2 way between St. Joseph and Quincy IA.)  in 1961 it ran south through Keota (a place geologists will recognize as being famous for geodes). to the mine in Ardmore. 

Prior history goes back to 1898 under the Kansas & Texas Railway constructed the original line (and part remaining) from Bevier to Ardmore.   Branches where extended from Ardmore to the two other trunk lines in the area.  North to the CB&Q (it is a little fuzzy where it connected before this unless CB&Q moved their Galesburg-Kansas City main) and 4 miles east to Excello and the Wabash.

in 1902 the K&T was merged with the Missouri & Louisiana Railroad in the books only. When the M&L was dissolved in 1914 the Missouri portion remained with the Bevier & Southern name. 

The mine changed hands along with the railroad a few times until the mine went to the Peabody Coal Company at which time the railroad became independent.

In 1945 a 7-mile branch was built southwest to Jacksonville and in 1953 a six mile section to Darksville.  These were both abandon by 1957.   On that hilly seven mile branch to Jacksonville the railroad experimented with electric power.  It was a failure.

In 1961 the railroad was delivering 1500 cars of coal to the Burlington each month.

A fire destroyed the turntable and roundhouse in Bevier sometime in the 191x time period.  They were never rebuilt. Instead a 4 bay engine house. Locomotives are fueled by a gondola load of coal. The only classic steam structure was the round wooden water tower.

Active Locomotives in 1961 -

2-6-0 #112  bought new in 1920 from Baldwin
2-6-0 #109  obtained in 1945 from the IC (3700 series) originally Brooks built in 1900
2-8-2 #4943 obtained in 1955 from CB&Q O1A class
2-8-2 #4963 obtained in 1955 from CB&Q O1A class

inactive
2-6-0 #110 former M&StL from Baldwin 1907
2-6-0 #111 Baldwin 1907 kept for parts for #112.
2-8-2 #4955 - former CB&Q O1A class
 

DSO17 gets to ask the next question.

 

[Deggesty]

DSO17

Bevier & Southern ?

In 1950, the Bevier and Southern ran 15.50 miles from Bevier (connection with CB&Q) to Binkley, Mine #2.

Johnny

[wanswheel]

Have engine will save

http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr0100/bs112.jpg

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=704895

[DSO17]

Texas Zepher

I am thinking of a railroad. It was a short line (feeder).  In October 1961, seventeen months after the last revenue run for a steam locomotive on a class 1 railroad, this railroad's roster consisted of two Moguls and two Mikados.  These were not sitting around, but in use every day, making it the highest concentration of active steam locomotives in the USA.   The railroad was only 10 miles long.  It mainly hauled coal. Because of this longevity of steam it is now quite famous.  It also had a catchy and famous slogan. Name that railroad.

 

     Bevier & Southern ?

     "Have Train Will Haul"?

[henry6]

Texas Zepher

henry6

Buffalo Creek and Gauley!?

Not the one I'm thinking of.  Where was that railroad?

 

A coal road in West Virginia...very famous for it's hospitality and steamers!

[Texas Zepher]

stevedome

The Camden & Amboy

1961 not 1861.   I had to go back and make certain I didn't type the date wrong

[Texas Zepher]

henry6

Buffalo Creek and Gauley!?

Not the one I'm thinking of.  Where was that railroad?

[stevedome]

The Camden & Amboy

[henry6]

Buffalo Creek and Gauley!?

[Texas Zepher]

I am thinking of a railroad. It was a short line (feeder).  In October 1961, seventeen months after the last revenue run for a steam locomotive on a class 1 railroad, this railroad's roster consisted of two Moguls and two Mikados.  These were not sitting around, but in use every day, making it the highest concentration of active steam locomotives in the USA.   The railroad was only 10 miles long.  It mainly hauled coal. Because of this longevity of steam it is now quite famous.  It also had a catchy and famous slogan. Name that railroad.

[passengerfan]

The scottish names were given them to imply thrift, supposedly scotsmen are penny pinchers.The cars were carried one per consist in the NCL and after purchasing the used cars the Mainstreeter also carried a  Slumber coach. Eventually they became the only sleeping accomodation on the Mainstreeter also the crew used the Slumbercoach as well.  

Your question

Al - in - Stockton

[Texas Zepher]

Four additional sleepers were purchased new in 1959.  They were used with two CB&Q cars to protect the schedules of the NCL and Denver Zephyr as they swapped cars in Chicago. In addition eight more cars were purchased 2nd hand and carried the same name series.  This would be the LOCH series.

New: 

#325  Loch Sloy
#326  Loch Leven
#327  Loch Lomond
#328  Loch Ness

Used:

#329 Loch Tarbert    ex-MP
#330 Loch Katrine    ex-B&O
#331 Loch Long       ex-B&O
#332 Loch Lochy     ex-B&O
#333 Loch Tay         ex-NYC
#334 Loch Rannoch ex-NYC
#335 Loch Arkaig    ex-NYC
#336 Loch Awe       ex-NYC

Why the Scottish names.... No idea.
 

[passengerfan]

Just a quick question?

When first delivered the NP streamlined sleeping cars were named but within a short time they were numbered losing there names at that time. But later the NP purchased additional sleeping cars and they were all named please name them and the type sleeping car they were?

Al - in - Stockton

[wanswheel]

Johnny's question posted and answered first, therefore Al's turn to ask the next.

[Texas Zepher]

wanswheel

The triamond? of 2 Frisco tracks and a Katy track at Columbus, Kansas

That would be the one.

google map 

Wanswheel's question - and awaaayy we go. 

 

[wanswheel]

The triamond? of 2 Frisco tracks and a Katy track at Columbus, Kansas was saved and moved to a park in town. Southeast corner of the map, near Joplin, Missouri.

http://trains.rockycrater.org/graphics/pfmsig/atlas48/ks-1948.jpg

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1614077

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1614070 Caboose

[Texas Zepher]

Deggesty

We do have a problem, since Texas Zepher posted a question two minutes after mine. What do we do?

That is too funny.  We must have both been feverishly typing at the same time.  I had taken a extra minute or to, in order to see that the intersection was still shown on google maps - it is.

[passengerfan]

I wiil wait

Al - in - Stockton

[Deggesty]

passengerfan

I believe the RR was the Rock Island and Christine was a reengined Alco DL 109 powered with EMD 567 and the mongeese were also reengined power. The Rock island I believe operated more reengined power than just about any RR.

Al - in - Stockton

Al, you are right about the brief identification of "Christine" and the road that owned her, so you got two out of three right. As you have seen from Paul's answer, the "Mongeese" were BL-2's, as they were built.

We do have a problem, since Texas Zepher posted a question two minutes after mine. What do we do?

Johnny

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

The Mongeese referred to the BL2's in suburban service.  While RI had a fair number of repowered locomotives,  MKT was probably the re-powering champ.

[passengerfan]

Deggesty

ZephyrOverland

Anyway, whoever wants to ask the next question, jump on in.

Myron

No one else has jumped in, so here goes: Which railroad operated "Christine" and the "Mongeese," and what were they?

Johnny

I believe the RR was the Rock Island and Christine was a reengined Alco DL 109 powered with EMD 567 and the mongeese were also reengined power. The Rock island I believe operated more reengined power than just about any RR.

Al - in - Stockton

[Texas Zepher]

ZephyrOverland

Anyway, whoever wants to ask the next question, jump on in.

Where in the USA was there a unique hex crossing.  This is where three tracks crossed each other instead of just two.  They are all standard gauge.  Name the town, State, and two railroads.  Two of the crossing tracks are branches of the same RR.

[Deggesty]

ZephyrOverland

Anyway, whoever wants to ask the next question, jump on in.

Myron

No one else has jumped in, so here goes: Which railroad operated "Christine" and the "Mongeese," and what were they?

Johnny

[daveklepper]

So ask another question!

[wanswheel]

ZephyrOverland

Why did PRSL used this name - I don't know.

I bet it was to honor the composer of the Atlantic City Pageant March.

[ZephyrOverland]

wanswheel

Southern Pacific? 1937 timetable shows through sleepers on YVRR.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=47907

SP definitely did have an El Capitan. It sank.

http://webbie1.sfpl.org/multimedia/sfphotos/aah-0202.jpg

http://webbie1.sfpl.org/multimedia/sfphotos/aah-0204.jpg

 

Yes, but SP's El Capitan did not run on rails.....

The answer to the question is -

PRSL - Philadelphia-Atlantic City  ca. early 1940's.  Why did PRSL used this name - I don't know.

Anyway, whoever wants to ask the next question, jump on in.

Myron