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Posted by charlie hebdo on Thursday, February 27, 2020 10:04 AM

Okay,  what headline or story on this thread said Bob Iger was fired?  I failed to see it in any of the linked articles.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, February 27, 2020 8:51 AM

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Wonder if the firing of the Disney CEO will affect the station plans of Brightline on Disney property ?

 

 

 

 

First Bob Iger wasn't fired.  Second, I doubt it would affect things at all.

 

These impressions come from reading only the headline, sometimes poorly written, to a news story without reading the whole article.  I make it a point to read the whole article when I see a headline, typically to an on-line news story, that has me saying "WHAAAAAT?" the moment I read it.  

Whether it's deliberate or just sloppy journalism I'll leave others to judge, but there's sure a whole lot of it going on.  

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 10:58 PM

That guy never gives answers or explanations,  just makes unfounded statements posing as questions. 

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Posted by divebardave on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:26 PM

If this was a public works project with politicaly connected bidders who are know the system of favors the tune would be diffrent.

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, February 26, 2020 10:59 AM

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Wonder if the firing of the Disney CEO will affect the station plans of Brightline on Disney property?

First Bob Iger wasn't fired.  Second, I doubt it would affect things at all.

Why do we get these conspiracy theories over and over?

Iger wasn't 'fired' - he's becoming executive Chairman, something I doubt would happen from any sort of forced retirement.  The guy replacing him, Chapek, was head of the parks division, and presumably knows full well what the arrangements with Brightline have been ... and are expected to be.  

It falls on the guy starting this to explain why he thinks anything regarding 'station plans' will change, and what he thinks they would be.  But I expect him to back it up with better actual facts.

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Posted by n012944 on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:08 PM

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Wonder if the firing of the Disney CEO will affect the station plans of Brightline on Disney property ?

 

 

First Bob Iger wasn't fired.  Second, I doubt it would affect things at all.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 5:57 PM

The US needs grade separation and secured ROWs for mainlines as part of moving into the second half of the 20th century. 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, February 25, 2020 5:33 PM

Wonder if the firing of the Disney CEO will affect the station plans of Brightline on Disney property ?

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:14 PM

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In the story about deaths (linked inside the linked story) there are references to "dynamic envelopes."

I understood this as a fancy jargon way of expressing where the 'safe clearance' for approaching the train is indicated, like the yellow line on platforms.  Think of it as showing the closest you can come without encountering the 'dynamic' effects of the train, including slipstream or anything it might have loose or dragging.

The principal problem with All The Brightline Deaths is that they play into the hands of the considerable number of people who didn't and don't want fast trains on unseparated ROWs, or who think any 'train hitting person' accident is a railroad-induced calamity that shows capitalist hard-heartedness at its worst.  I'm concerned that it's getting worse, rather than better, and there is little effective that can be done to preclude that.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Saturday, February 22, 2020 10:30 AM

I fail to see what either of you find so disconcerting about the story.  A lot of statistics that analyze the death toll. 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:50 AM

Suicide comes from the Latin,  suicidium which means the act of killing one's self, pretty much the same as the German term. 

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Posted by MMLDelete on Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:12 AM

In the story about deaths (linked inside the linked story) there are references to "dynamic envelopes." What the heck does that mean?

IMO, that writer is trying way to hard to be clever. The first paragraph is ridiculous, whatever the heck it is he's trying to say.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, February 21, 2020 7:17 PM

"Lovely piece of journalism" indeed.  Sob-sisterism at it's best.

I hate to sound cruel and heartless, but it's been said countless times on this Forum before.  You can't save some people from themselves.  You can try, but as the saying goes "You can't put in what God left out," especially common sense.  Suicides?  You can and should advertise and post places where those who need help can get help, but if someone thinks he or she would be better off out of this world than in it, and won't look for help, then they'll accomplish the deed one way or another.  If they can't walk in front of a train than they might just walk in front of your car.  Would it be fair to call you a killer if that happened? 

Trains don't "kill" anyone.  Trains are mindless pieces of machinery with no sense of right or wrong or justice or fairness.  Those who put themselves in the path of the train are the ones to blame, like it or not.

You know, there's times when I think the German work for suicide is closer to the mark than the English one.  In German it's selbstmord, literally self-murder.  "Suicide" sounds too euphemistic, too "clean."

OK, I'm off the soapbox.  Someone else can jump on. 

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, February 21, 2020 6:40 PM

Not sure where the wacky paranoia about airlines comes from ... or some of the cracked-up numbers in the quoted story.  County Attorney Reingold thinks the whole appeal cost (assuming the Court grants cert here) is something like $400K ... and there's more than that left 'in an account dedicated to the legal battle' (which is over whether the tax-exemption of $1.75 billion in private activity bonds associated with the Brightline project is legal)

Now, if you want potentially-justifiable paranoia, consider the idea that the Indian River County people are anticipating a conservative 'turn' on the Court (see the stories about Ruth Bader Ginzburg's health lately) which will somehow tilt the decision in their favor.  Not having read the controversy (or either the DC Circuit's decision or the appeal brief, I'm not even going to comment.

I think it's far more likely that any 'private money' would be associated with the relatively high-profile status of All Those People Dead From Brightline.  (Up to 40 the last time I looked, which would be concerning even for New Jersey Transit!)  See this lovely piece of journalism, for instance.  (There is a better editorial on the RT&S site here.)

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, February 21, 2020 4:51 PM

Indian river county getting private money to take bond issue to Supreme court.  Private money ?  Maybe airline in background ?  It is pecular that this and the Texax HSR both suddenly gets backbone to take on the previous rullings ? 

https://www.rtands.com/railroad-news/22283/

 

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