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Lake Shore Limited Running with one locomotive

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Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:13 AM

Of course it could be that locomotive maintenance and thus reliabilty have suddenly improved, but we still hear plenty of anecdotes here of major delays because of locomotive failures.   Perhaps someone can check Amtrak stats?

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:42 AM

Exactly what I said Dave, no need for two units if they are reliable. The early streamliners were delivered to be operated with a single unit, and this is when diesel fuel was cheap.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:23 AM

Or it may be that Amtrak maintenance has improved to the point where reliability is sufficient to avoid wasting fuel.

Lots of early streamliners had only one unit up front, or being an articlyated train, were permanently attached ot only one.

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Posted by schlimm on Monday, June 27, 2016 10:02 PM

Insufficient "available" locomotives sounds like a maintenace problem.

 

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Posted by Dragoman on Monday, June 27, 2016 5:53 PM

dakotafred

Assuming a single unit can provide the necessary HP, the point is and always has been: What if it fails?

Covering that remote possibility is a poor excuse for running fuel through a redundant unit day after day. We never heard of it in steam days.

 

 

But in steam days, weren't there service facilities and helpers to be found every hundred or so miles?

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, June 27, 2016 12:14 PM

It certainly appears lack of operatable locos is causing this.  Yesterday's Starlight had one 500 series loco out of Seattle.

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Posted by rcdrye on Monday, June 27, 2016 6:18 AM

Double units will probably return with through operation of the Boston section. 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, June 26, 2016 4:40 PM

Well, the new baggage cars are definitely lighter and the brakes do not stick.........lol.

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Posted by zugmann on Sunday, June 26, 2016 2:50 PM

dakotafred
Assuming a single unit can provide the necessary HP, the point is and always has been: What if it fails? Covering that remote possibility is a poor excuse for running fuel through a redundant unit day after day. We never heard of it in steam days.

Loss of propulsion is minor compared to the threat of losing operable HEP. 

 

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Sunday, June 26, 2016 2:44 PM

Its wasn't uncommon to see one locomotive  and e or f hauling a newly budd built streamliner of 6 or 7 cars.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:12 PM

Lack of operative locos most likely.  It is getting bad for Amtrak and lack of operative locos.                         sn

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Posted by dakotafred on Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:01 PM

Assuming a single unit can provide the necessary HP, the point is and always has been: What if it fails?

Covering that remote possibility is a poor excuse for running fuel through a redundant unit day after day. We never heard of it in steam days.

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Posted by schlimm on Saturday, June 25, 2016 7:57 PM

josephr33

I've noticed the Lakeshore Limited is now running with one locomotive.  While it makes for a clean appearance to the train, I can't help but wonder how Amtrak deals with potential breakdowns as well as maintaining track speed with a train that has normally had two locomotives.  Does anyone know what considerations Amtrak makes when assigning locomotives to trains?

 

How many cars does the LSL usually have?  Fewer now?  Maybe a newer, more powerful locomotive now?

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:00 PM

Many Amtrak trains operate with a single unit. It depends on the number of cars and the grades to be encountered. The Texas Eagle routinely runs with one unit.

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Lake Shore Limited Running with one locomotive
Posted by josephr33 on Saturday, June 25, 2016 2:43 PM

I've noticed the Lakeshore Limited is now running with one locomotive.  While it makes for a clean appearance to the train, I can't help but wonder how Amtrak deals with potential breakdowns as well as maintaining track speed with a train that has normally had two locomotives.  Does anyone know what considerations Amtrak makes when assigning locomotives to trains?

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