Unconfirmed reports that 658 - 664 on NEC under test. All lower number in service except 601 wreck. Any one know when 664 might have come east or any pictures. Unable to confirm.
663 is east bound again in Iowa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qnjCiJj6nc
schlimmNot sure, but that is not the "out-of-pocket" cost. It likely includes depreciation and other, non-operating expenses.
I'd agree with this. What you'd want is the marginal direct cost ... probably of adding just the extra weight, wind, and rolling resistance of the one car, since it's unlikely to be 'the straw that broke the camel's back' requiring an additional P42. Someone handy with the Davis formula can give us an approximation of added resistance averaged for the given route profile, and then figure the added fuel cost to overcome that -- this is probably almost 100% of the actual cost involved in toting the ACS-64 both ways.
Now, against this, figure the cost of switching the locomotive out of the consist, ensuring it is secure and wouldn't need to be moved until the 'next' Amtrak train, and then the cost involved in switching it into the 'next' train, etc. Isn't HEP off in the train while the power goes wherever it has to go to position the ACS-64? Isn't the 'likely' temporary resting place somewhere fairly distant from any actual scheduled place Amtrak would stop?
I am reasonably sure 'experts' had a good idea that going all the way back to Emeryville made the most sense. That's not something anybody who Mr. Mica might take an interest in would do without really, really justifiable reasoning...
blue streak 1Amtrak says an Amfleet costs about $4.00 + per mile.
Not sure, but that is not the "out-of-pocket" cost. It likely includes depreciation and other, non-operating expenses.
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Agree that taking care of passengers is first priority. However # 663 could have been left in Denver as station would have been good location to leave 663. That would have saved 2398 miles + what ever in Emeryville. Have no idea what is mileage costs of an ACS-64 but Amtrak says an Amfleet costs about $4.00 + per mile.
Anyone know if 663 has been sent back east ?
blue streak 1 blue streak 1 So what can we say about ACS-64 #663 ? Whither bound ? -- hither and yon Well it went yon. Here is a video of it arriving Emeryville Wedensday night. Did it leave today ? What a waste of money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8n9rSVpGSE
blue streak 1 So what can we say about ACS-64 #663 ? Whither bound ? -- hither and yon
So what can we say about ACS-64 #663 ? Whither bound ? -- hither and yon
The movement of a dead locomotive doesn't enter into the problems that Amtrak faced in turning the Zephyr equipment short of destination, and in real terms is of very little operating consequence to traffic on the NEC getting the 663 several days later then when it was originally expected. Amtrak was trying to handle their passenger responsibilities in the arrangements that were made to turn the equipment short of destination.
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JC UPTONDoes anyone know what was Amtrak's "service disruption" that caused the turnaround for CZ6 at Ottumwa?
BNSF main closed due to freight hitting road grader.
http://www.kcrg.com/subject/news/public-safety/more-than-20-coal-train-cars-derail-after-hitting-construction-equipment-20151109
from the Far East of the Sunset Route
(In the shadow of the Huey P Long bridge)
Reversed at Ottamwa, properly pointed at Denver,my guess.
will leave this for others to comment. West bound Cal Z exiting Moffett tunnel at Winter park ski resort. Yes that's ACS-64 #663 going on for the ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b1d9AZnHZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fScqcKXYK1A
Well 663 is definitely not following the script. Here is video of it in Iowa on CAL Z 6 / 07 now. This is the CAL Z that does not get to CHI today. Train set will return back to Emeryville. Wonder what Amtrak is going to do with the 663 ? Maybe stay with train set until 663 can be added to 6 / 08 Nov ? Just pure speculation. Anyone know Amtrak plans ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut-5Lrd5QB0
Might be worried about someone fouling up 663. Maybe all way back to DEN for qualified (?) ACS-64 car knockers ?
blue streak 1 Unconfirmed report that 663 may be on today's CAL Z 6/04 Nov. Waiting for more reports.
Unconfirmed report that 663 may be on today's CAL Z 6/04 Nov. Waiting for more reports.
662 was seen in the CZ consist being turned on the wye south of Chicago Union Station yesterday (10/26/2015).
Unconfirmed report ACS-64 #662 on todays eastbound Cal Z ( 6 / 24 Oct )
661 was spotted at Chicago Union Station coach yard this morning while on my ride to work.
Trying to confirm report that ACS-64 661 is on Cal Z # 6 / 17 October
660 was at Chicago Union Station coach yard yesterday (10/05/2015). I have seen them from my train and they never seem to be in an easily phtographable location.
Unconfirmed report ACS-64 660 headed to Emeryville today and scheduled on Cal Z Train 6/3 OCT tomorrow.
With only 9 to go and approximately 3 - 1/4 being turned or to Amtrak a month we may see the last one leave Emeryville by Dec 31st ?
CSSHEGEWISCH 659 was in Chicago Union Station coach yard yesterday (09/29/2015).
659 was in Chicago Union Station coach yard yesterday (09/29/2015).
2 Questions
1- How long after arrival @ gateway point before a new ACS-64 enters revenue service?
2- Which unit is the most recently delivered that has been seen in revenue service?
Have not been able to find link but saw pictures of an ACS-64 pulling a Superliner train from PHL - Harrisburgh. The SLs were added to Pennsylvanian at Harrisburgh and Capitol at Pittsburgh. These SLs reported as being for extra personel in PHL for the Pope's visit.
Very rare movement. SLs uder wire pulled by electric motor.
video of 659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zypox3f5LUc
Unconfirmed report 659 on Cal Z 6/ 26 in Iowa today Monaday.
658 was in Chicago yesterday (09/22/2015) at the 18th Street facility.
657 reported on #6 / 19 and here is video of 658 on #6 / 20 september.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH1VaTJPMfQ
657 video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtVGi6svJPg
655 was in Chicago yesterday (09/02/15) near 18th Street.
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