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Posted by n012944 on Sunday, August 30, 2020 11:11 AM

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Does NS still dispatch the SW Metra service ?

 

 

 

 

Yep, Dearborn Disptach handles the route.

 
 
 

 

 

I think it is dispatched by the Landers operator.

 

 

 

https://metrarail.com/about-metra/our-history/southwest-service-history

 
 

Considering there are no longer dispatchers in Dearborn, I think that information is incorrect.  Also, while it might not be "Metra", the NS Landers Operator does  control the diamond at Ashburn, but I belive that is the only diamond that the home road controls on the Wabash.

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Posted by n012944 on Sunday, August 30, 2020 11:16 AM

http://www.multimodalways.org/docs/railroads/companies/NS/NS%20ETTs/NS%20Dearborn%20Div%20ETT%20%231%208-4-2008.pdf

METRA — SOUTHWEST SUB DISTRICT — 74TH ST. TO MANHATTAN

The METRA Section of the C.O.R.A. Operating Guide will govern NS Trains operating between either 74th or Belt Jct. and Manhattan. All signals will conform to METRA signal indications except Forrest Hill Interlocking, which are NS Signal Indications. All trains and engines operating on the METRA Southwest Sub. between Belt Jct. and Manhattan will be under the direction of the Landers Operator.

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Posted by SD60MAC9500 on Sunday, August 30, 2020 1:01 PM
 

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http://www.multimodalways.org/docs/railroads/companies/NS/NS%20ETTs/NS%20Dearborn%20Div%20ETT%20%231%208-4-2008.pdf

METRA — SOUTHWEST SUB DISTRICT — 74TH ST. TO MANHATTAN

The METRA Section of the C.O.R.A. Operating Guide will govern NS Trains operating between either 74th or Belt Jct. and Manhattan. All signals will conform to METRA signal indications except Forrest Hill Interlocking, which are NS Signal Indications. All trains and engines operating on the METRA Southwest Sub. between Belt Jct. and Manhattan will be under the direction of the Landers Operator.

 

Thanks for the correction. I just did a search NS terminated their lease on the building back in 2018. I forgot NS set everyone to ATL. 

 
 
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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, August 31, 2020 2:53 PM

Back to the topic:

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20200831/metra-dealing-with-a-summer-of-discontent

UP is paid by Metra to operate and staff the trains but expects Metra to test them? 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, August 31, 2020 6:27 PM

Rather far from Chicago....

"A Director of METRA lives 45 miles from downtown Chicago in the suburb of Crystal Lake, IL."

Larry Cena a past CEO of AT&SF lived in Naperville, IL in a modest home only 28 miles away in comparison.

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Posted by York1 on Monday, August 31, 2020 6:42 PM

I'm pretty sure Lance Fritz lives in Omaha.  I'm not positive of that, though.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, August 31, 2020 8:06 PM

CMStPnP

Rather far from Chicago....

"A Director of METRA lives 45 miles from downtown Chicago in the suburb of Crystal Lake, IL."

Larry Cena a past CEO of AT&SF lived in Naperville, IL in a modest home only 28 miles away in comparison.

 

Both are suburbs,  served by Metra. 

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Posted by Falcon48 on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:00 PM

charlie hebdo

Back to the topic:

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20200831/metra-dealing-with-a-summer-of-discontent

UP is paid by Metra to operate and staff the trains but expects Metra to test them? 

 

Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see anything in the attached article indicating that Metra "tests" trains operating on UP lines.  Still, I suppose it's possible that Metra "tests" trains in Chicago during mid day layovers at Western Avenue (a yard a few miles west of the Chicago passenger terminal where trains are stored and serviced between rush hours).  But I don't know whether that's the case or not.  

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:16 PM

charlie hebdo
Both are suburbs,  served by Metra. 

So whats up with that specific suburb?, the last Director lived there as well.....

https://www.nwherald.com/2010/05/07/metra-director-pagano-commits-suicide-hours-before-possible-firing/a5onrdf/

 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:21 PM

Falcon48
Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see anything in the attached article indicating that Metra "tests" trains operating on UP lines.  Still, I suppose it's possible that Metra "tests" trains in Chicago during mid day layovers at Western Avenue (a yard a few miles west of the Chicago passenger terminal where trains are stored and serviced between rush hours).  But I don't know whether that's the case or not.  

He meant that UP should be responsible for the COVID-19 tests vs METRA since they are UP employees.     I think however, officially it is a METRA workplace and the UP employees are just contractors as far as the law is concerned.....thats my guess.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 7:41 PM

CMStPnP

 

 
Falcon48
Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see anything in the attached article indicating that Metra "tests" trains operating on UP lines.  Still, I suppose it's possible that Metra "tests" trains in Chicago during mid day layovers at Western Avenue (a yard a few miles west of the Chicago passenger terminal where trains are stored and serviced between rush hours).  But I don't know whether that's the case or not.  

 

He meant that UP should be responsible for the COVID-19 tests vs METRA since they are UP employees.     I think however, officially it is a METRA workplace and the UP employees are just contractors as far as the law is concerned.....thats my guess.

 

I think it would depend on who is paying them and giving them benefits.  Meanwhile,  Metra is playing to the public. 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/editorials/ct-editorial-metra-no-conductors-free-rides-20200901-lrgqq3yrmrbzpptxnamj2niwn4-story.html

 

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Posted by Falcon48 on Monday, September 28, 2020 9:28 AM

STB issued a decision last Friday (9/25/20) refusing to decide the UP-Metra dispute.  It's available on the STB website (https://prod.stb.gov/proceedings-actions/decisions/) under "decisions" for 9/25, decision no. 50423.  It's not a decision on the "merits"  The effect of the decision is to leave the dispute in the Federal court where it was initially filed.

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