Prospect Park on the Brighton has two island platforms and four tracks.
Without the crossovers and the siding, it could have been on Liberty Ave, Brooklyn, or on the 7 in Queens. I'll stay with 138th and B'way.
daveklepper Prospect Park on the Brighton has two island platforms and four tracks. Without the crossovers and the siding, it could have been on Liberty Ave, Brooklyn, or on the 7 in Queens. I'll stay with 138th and B'way.
Besides, Prospect Park is in an open cut. All you will see down there it the wall.
Are we talking about that last photo with the pretty blue sky? What do you see in the sky but the new World Trade Center's Freedom Tower. That means you are looking at Manhattan from the south. The photo was taken from the Sea Beach line just out of coney island.
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
Call the place the "Barclay Center" if you must, Call it "Atlantic Avenue" if you like, but the tiles do not forget...
Lion,you are wrong. There is no elevated structure on Sea Beach just north of Coney Island. Indeed, the only N elevated structure, other than the Manhattan Bridge and its approaches, is in Queens, on the Astoria Line. My memory mistake was thinking the north wye switch, leading to north Coney Island yards, on the WEST END was just south of the Bay-50th Street Statilon, and you did photograph that wye looking east from a northbound train window, just befor the train entered the station, with the northbound platform within the wye. This photo is from the north end of the northbound platform of Bay-50th on the West End, now D, was B, and before that 3. You forgot which train you were riding when you left Stillwell.
The Pacific Street mosaic sign is on the 4th Avenue Subway's Barkley Center station, the line used by the R, N, and D. A similar sign on the station used by the B and Q would say Atlantic Avenue, as would signs on the IRT, 2, 3, 4, 5.
daveklepperLion,you are wrong. There is no elevated structure on Sea Beach just north of Coney Island.
Yup, Ewe Are Right! Is on the West End it is. LION BAD.
Reminds me of the ram that commited suicide after hearing the song, "There will never be another ewe"
A`very typical view, could be almost anywhere on the unerground portion of the system, except for the white call-on light supplimenting the colored signal lights. Cannot figure what it is for, since there are no switches seen ahead. But the little lion seems to be resting on a small shelf on the fourth columns from the left edge of the picture.
The upper photo is either 33rd Street, 28th Street, or 23rd Street on lower Park and 4th Avenue on the Lexington Avenue line, with 4 and 5 on the express tracks and 6 making the local stop. That is a four-track subway with the express tracks at a slightly lower level than the local tracks at each station. I think the design idea was that an uphill approach to the station platform and downhill leaving would save power and brake-shoes. Correction, the photo is elsewhere, the express tracks are not at a lower level. Possibly 135 and St. Nicholous on the 8th Avenue subway with B and C stopping and A and D on the express tracks.
I see you got to visit the old South Ferry station that was put back into service while the new one was emtied of flood water and repaired. The normal three-aspect signal light is modified to show only yellow and red, with the 10mph speed restriction, not a ten-car marker.
If the LION is showing you a signal (or if you can see a signal in the LION'S picture) then all you need to know is the chaning system to know the location. Look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway_chaining to see how the system works.
The number plate 684 / V is an IRT number plate, the V chain on the IRT starts at 44th Street and runs south to South Ferry via 7th Avenue. The number 68 tells that it is 68 100' lengths from point zero or 6800 feet. Just over one mile. The number 4 on the plate 684 indicates that the signal is on track 4 noting that signal numbers do not reflect actual track designations.
Facing north on the IRT, the track numbers are 1-2-3-4 while the signal numbers are 4-2-1-3.
In the last photo the number is 94 MV which would be signal track 4, 900 feet into chain MV which is a loop designation where point zero in in Bowing Green Station.
Roll back and find the station with the plate reading 2554 / B. It is an IRT designation, which designates a Broadway Track from 96 street to 42nd Street (joining the shuttle or original track), Chain zero is Brooklyn Bridge, so the signal is on the number 4 track 25,500 feet from Bowing Green.
Now isnt that all fun
I appreciate this information. Too much to do to carry it with me in my head at the present time. But my suggesting 135th at St. Nich was stupid for another reason. I just remembered 135th on the 8th Avenue line is a very singular local statioln, since there are sidinges, one on each side, between the local and express tracks. There are six tracks through this local station, the only case on the entire system. Why? Never could figure that out.
There is no rhyme or reason to the IND... Perhaps thwy were going to use 125 as a terminal. LION knows not.
Startrek on the NYCT
Found the L'il Lion sitting on top of the warp drive exhaust. Hope he doesn't get burned!
I think the little guy needs a name. How about Pookie?
I has more than 50 such stuffed animals in my room plus others elsewhere.
Usually Bushy Lion makes his appearanve here. That one is Shaggy, and the other one in Kingston.
WATCH OUT FOR THE 3RD RAIL...
Poor little guy, should have whizzed on the rail first to make sure it wasn't "hot."
No, that wouldn't have been too smart either.
Never mind.
Lady Firestorm says that last one was "sick, sick, sick!"
LION shouldn't be getting too much of a jolt since he's standing on the sheath rather than the third rail.
I figured that's just artistic license.
Looks to me as if you have migrated to the LIRR RoW, with two photos in the region reasonbly close (walking distance) to the East River tunnel portals.
In addition to the 7 line's crossing the LIRR 4-track main and 2-track Port Washington Branch, both 3rd-railed, at Woodide on the three-track express-station structure, there are one or two crossings on a two-track structure nearer the portals for both the LIRR and the 7. My guess is the pix is near the 7's 45 St. Station, where a 2-track 7-line structure crosses the LIRR emerging from the portals.
Is picture from (J) train approaching Broadway Junction, is (L) train passing overhead. Picture of Electric LION is on the Brighton Line.
Give ewe a break with this one. Is picture in da Bronix. LIONS easy to find, train not so much.
Train (if in picture it would be) would be directly in front of the direction of my camera's ken, but of some distance away. But that station was torn down when Dyre joined the line. Some trains used to terminate right there, was called Bronx Park in those days. People at zoo gate never knowed station used to be right in front of them. LION told thmd to go back to the next station on the line and look at the iron work, you can still see that the line used to not turn there.
They have added a fourth track through the lower level station at Broadway Junction. In my days, up to 20 years ago, say, the lower level of Broadway Jc. Eastern Parkway, East New York, had only three tracks, flanking two island platforms. Older photographs, say from the classic days of AB types on Broadway, the Lexington El gate cars running througoh, and the Multis on 14th St. Canarsie overhead, should show this. But now there apparently is a fourth bypass track without any platform on the north side of the lower level. I guess this is to allow pull-outs from the yard on the north side of the line, east of the station, to bypass stopped trains to get them to Manhattan quicker for the evening rush hour. Or perhaps to facilitate light movements from Jamaica to reverse and back into the yard without tying up regular service. A lot of wood and steel seems to have been replaced with concrete. But I should have checked the four doors on the train above, not three as on IRT equipment. The perspective of the photo seems a bit distorted with the cars about seeming to be shorter than they are.
Also, signals have been changed. I do not remember any three-aspect signals anywhere on the BMT. Red over a yellow or green to show a diverging rout would have been simply yellow or yellow over red, just showing allowable speed and not the route. Of course in my era the LIRR used position lights per PRR practice, but I have been told many have been replaced by color light signals.
I gather that the train that isn't there is at 180th Street Bronx Park,where the 7th Avenue Expresses teminated for about 50 years. The Transit Authority abandoned two Bronx Park Stations, both on the IRT. Do you know where the other one was? (Hint, there still is, I think, a Bronx Park Station right by that location, but not an IRT one.) I understand there is a model streetcar line in the Bronx Park's Botanical Gardens, but is has the anomoly of model Bronx Third Avenue Transit red and cream homemade lightweights crossing the Brooklyn Bridge, instead of BMT PCC's and Peter Witts. Worth a visit for you, however.
It is still a three track station, but that decending track diverts east of the station.
Did LION just have the foreman for lunch??
The bottom picture is looking west from the Ninth Avenue Station, with the old Culver three tracks coming from below, and only the West End, now D, using the complex today, with the lower level used only for storage. The inclines go to the 39th Street yard and inspection shop. The inclines never did go to the 5th Avenue elevated, a pair of inclines without tracks further west did that for the Culver Elevated trains up to Unification.
Sorry, this was a duplicate post. My error.
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