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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, October 11, 2015 7:38 AM

Correction, by exclusively, I should have qualified for South Brooklyn Railway freight to or from LIRR. PRR, and NYNH&H points, using the LIRR Bay Ridge branch with its LIRR Peddler and many NYNH&H thru freights.  Other freight was interchanged with New York Dock at 36th Street and 2nd or 3rd Avenue, via tracks running west of the West End and Culver inclne to the 4th Avenue subway for car floating to CNJ, DL&W, NYCentral, Erie, SuziQ, etc.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, October 11, 2015 7:27 AM

OK.   So the soiuthbouind express strack and local track are both covered by platform extensions, and the operable northbound express track is used as the southbound track, with the northbound local track still in service.  Then your posting makes sense.  When the northbound local track needs service, they will cover it and use the express track, with the soiuthbound local track already restored to service.

As far as I know the only revenue use of the Sea Beach express tracks for regular passenger service was the Sunny Summer Sunday Franklin - Coney Island - Chambers Street white dot on the front left panograph gate service, which I rode once.  It was discontinued, I believe, when the D took over the Culver to run to Coney Island, and the TA wanted that to be the prime CI - Manahtan route.  Other than that, the center tracks were used for freight, car storage, and testing.  The Sea Beach line had three freight sidings off the northbound local track, and I believe you can see in the concret wall where they were.  They were equipped with trolley wire.   At one time the track that continued west from the incline to the 4th Avenue subway did connect with the Bay Ridge LIRR-NYNH&H carfloat yard, but by the time I WAs able to railfan the subway, as a teenager, the freight interchange was exlusively at Avenue H off the Macdonald Avenue streetcar tracks (remember, once upon a time a steam railroad, then elevated gate cars on the surface), so the freight to and from these sidings had to be routed via C.I. yard.  This was done until well after WWII.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, October 8, 2015 1:51 PM

There are no express trains on the Sea Beach, for the simple reason that there are no express stops. Sone one of the middle tracks was left operable, and the other decomissioned.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, October 5, 2015 3:35 PM

 

single-track operation on the northboiund express track only?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, October 4, 2015 12:17 PM

daveklepper

WHAT WAS GOING ON?

 

They are getting ready to do major renovations to the Sea Beach Line. As you know it is four tracks, the outside tracks are in service, the express tracks gennerally are not. The southbound express track has no third rail and no track connections to the railroad. They are building a Temporary  platform over that track and will take the local tracks out of service for repairs to tracks and platforms.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, October 4, 2015 7:00 AM

WHAT WAS GOING ON?

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Saturday, October 3, 2015 11:36 AM

Now there are two. Have they  been

 breeding?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:25 AM

LIONS on the Sea Beach

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, September 28, 2015 1:07 PM

In any case, I think we are back at the Ninth Avenue Station looking west.  Did you take the picture when the M ran to that station and reversed in the center track, or was the then B, now D switched to the center track for some reason?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, September 28, 2015 9:15 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

I've also got eleven, and no operable windshield wiper  Laugh

 

 

11 appears to be correct. I *thought* I put 12 in there, but I musta been mistooken.

I am shooting through the storm door, the motorman sits to my right. Him does have a windoshield viper what wroks.

 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, September 28, 2015 6:39 AM

I've also got eleven, and no operable windshield wiper  Laugh

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, September 27, 2015 7:46 PM

11?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:15 AM

Yup. The LION is on the window frame.

The LIONS may be easy to find, but can you find ALL of them? How many are there?

 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Sunday, September 27, 2015 6:39 AM

LION is actually inspecting the window glazing before the train departs.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, September 27, 2015 6:32 AM

This is on the West End Line, I think the northbound platform, looking south, with Sea Bach downstairs, and the Lion clinging to the passenger's package.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, September 25, 2015 7:12 AM

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:18 PM

Sorry, this was a duplicate post.  My error.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:17 PM

The bottom picture is looking west from the Ninth Avenue Station, with the old Culver three tracks coming from below, and only the West End, now D, using the complex today, with the lower level used only for storage.  The inclines go to the 39th Street yard and inspection shop.  The inclines never did go to the 5th Avenue elevated, a pair of inclines without tracks further west did that for the Culver Elevated trains up to Unification.

 
I think the upper picture is looking northeast from the Grant Avemue station on the incline to the Lefferts Avenue structure on Liberty Avenue, A trains.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:59 AM

Did LION just have the foreman for lunch??

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:26 AM

 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:01 AM

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:46 AM

It is still a three track station, but that decending track diverts east of the station.

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, September 21, 2015 8:01 AM

They have added a fourth track through the lower level station at Broadway Junction.  In my days, up to 20 years ago, say, the lower level of Broadway Jc. Eastern Parkway, East New York, had only three tracks, flanking two island platforms.   Older photographs, say from the classic days of AB types on Broadway, the Lexington El gate cars running througoh, and the Multis on 14th St. Canarsie overhead, should show this.  But now there apparently is a fourth bypass track without any platform on the north side of the lower level.  I guess this is to allow pull-outs from the yard on the north side of the line, east of the station, to bypass stopped trains to get them to Manhattan quicker for the evening rush hour.   Or perhaps to facilitate light movements from Jamaica to reverse and back into the yard without tying up regular service.  A lot of wood and steel seems to have been replaced with concrete.   But I should have checked the four doors on the train above, not three as on IRT equipment.  The perspective of the photo seems a bit distorted with the cars about seeming to be shorter than they are.

Also, signals have been changed.  I do not remember any three-aspect signals anywhere on the BMT.   Red over a yellow or green to show a diverging rout would have been simply yellow or yellow over red, just showing allowable speed and not the route.  Of course in my era the LIRR used position lights per PRR practice, but I have been told many have been replaced by color light signals.

 

I gather that the train that isn't there is at 180th Street Bronx Park,where the 7th Avenue Expresses teminated for about 50 years.   The Transit Authority abandoned two Bronx Park Stations, both on the IRT.   Do you know where the other one was? (Hint, there still is, I think, a Bronx Park Station right by that location, but not an IRT one.)  I understand there is a model streetcar line in the Bronx Park's Botanical Gardens, but is has the anomoly of model Bronx Third Avenue Transit red and cream homemade lightweights crossing the Brooklyn Bridge, instead of BMT PCC's and Peter Witts.  Worth a visit for you, however.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, September 20, 2015 10:49 AM

Is picture from (J) train approaching Broadway Junction, is (L) train passing overhead. Picture of Electric LION is on the Brighton  Line.

Give ewe a break with this one. Is picture in da Bronix. LIONS easy to find, train not so much.

 

Train (if in picture it would be) would be directly in front of the direction of my camera's ken, but of some distance away. But that station was torn down when Dyre joined the line. Some trains used to terminate right there, was called Bronx Park in those days. People at zoo gate never knowed station used to be right in front of them. LION told thmd to go back to the next station on the line and look at the iron work, you can still see that the line used to not turn there.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, September 20, 2015 10:03 AM

Looks to me as if you have migrated to the LIRR RoW, with two photos in the region reasonbly close (walking distance) to the East River tunnel portals.

In addition to the 7 line's crossing the LIRR 4-track main and 2-track Port Washington Branch, both 3rd-railed, at Woodide on the three-track express-station structure, there are one or two crossings on a two-track structure nearer the portals for both the LIRR and the 7.   My guess is the pix is near the 7's 45 St. Station, where a 2-track 7-line structure crosses the LIRR emerging from the portals.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:01 AM

I figured that's just artistic license.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:40 AM

LION shouldn't be getting too much of a jolt since he's standing on the sheath rather than the third rail.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, September 19, 2015 6:51 PM

Poor little guy, should have whizzed on the rail first to make sure it wasn't "hot."

No, that wouldn't have been too smart either.

Never mind.

Lady Firestorm says that last one was "sick, sick, sick!"

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, September 19, 2015 2:48 PM

WATCH OUT FOR THE 3RD RAIL...

 

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