NKP guy I seem to have a distinct memory of seeing an ex- Union Pacific M 10000 positioned, in all places on the lot of a gas station near downtown Cleveland
Do you think there is any chance that it may have instead been one of the Van Sweringen's rapid transit cars?
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On a related note, many spark ignited farm tractor engines were designed to run on kerosene, which was considerably cheaper than gasolene. The engines would be started on gasolene and switched over to kerosene after warming up. Many of the early WW1 submarines also ran on kerosene, more for not having the flammable vapor problems with gasolene - fires on submarines are not fun...
Distillate is a heavier grade of fuel than gasoline, but not suitable for use in a diesel engine. Distillate engines were spark-ignited, often with multiple plugs in each cylinder in order to properly ignite this fuel. The plugs required cleaning or replacement more frequently than those in a gasoline engine, due to soot/sludge accumulation from the heavier fuel.
https://utahrails.net/up/distillate.php
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What is gasoline distillate? A type of gasoline? Less refined, more refined?
Overmod Flintlock76 If it's the M-10000 I'm thinking of that train was scrapped in December of 1941 when its prime mover wore out. As I remember the story, the train -- all the early UP aluminum Streamliners -- got scrapped for aluminum for warplanes. And retired more for being too small than because anything mechanical was wrong with them...
Flintlock76 If it's the M-10000 I'm thinking of that train was scrapped in December of 1941 when its prime mover wore out.
As I remember the story, the train -- all the early UP aluminum Streamliners -- got scrapped for aluminum for warplanes. And retired more for being too small than because anything mechanical was wrong with them...
That is my recollection as well.
Being made of stainless steel, the Zephyrs survived.
Flintlock76If it's the M-10000 I'm thinking of that train was scrapped in December of 1941 when its prime mover wore out.
As I remember the story, the train -- in fact, all the early UP aluminum Streamliners -- got scrapped for aluminum for warplanes. And retired more for being too small than because anything mechanical was wrong with them...
Do I not dimly remember a thread on one of these forums a few years ago about either a replica or an advertising sign featuring a version of one of these trains?
The M-10000 in the 50's and 60's? I don't know, I kind of doubt it. If it's the M-10000 I'm thinking of that train was scrapped in December of 1941 when it's prime mover wore out. The UP didn't think it was worth replacing.
Here's the story:
http://www.american-rails.com/m-10000.html
I seem to have a distinct memory of seeing an ex- Union Pacific M 10000 positioned, in all places on the lot of a gas station near downtown Cleveland (around E. 40th & St. Clair, to be exact) in the 1950's and early 1960's.
I have no idea how it could possibly have wound up there. Can anyone here offer some information or context?
By 1970, I think, it was gone. But seeing it in Cleveland...at a gas station...sure caused me to rub my eyes and doubt my senses.
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