September 2015 issue of Railway Age on page 36 is a Progress Rail Services advertizement for an SD70ACe-T4 locomotive featuring an EMD 12 cylinder 1010 engine, AC traction, etc, etc. What gives? Guess I've been in a fog or something, thought they were way behind GE?
BOB WITHORN September 2015 issue of Railway Age on page 36 is a Progress Rail Services advertizement for an SD70ACe-T4 locomotive featuring an EMD 12 cylinder 1010 engine, AC traction, etc, etc. What gives? Guess I've been in a fog or something, thought they were way behind GE?
They are. GE is delivering production T4 engines to multiple carriers as we speak.
EMD is projecting 2017 for their T4 locomotive deliveries.
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First I had heard that the new engine was going to be the 1010. Interesting.
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NorthWest First I had heard that the new engine was going to be the 1010. Interesting.
I'm not surprised that they are marketing the 265-H derivative with a new engine series name.
After all, GE chose to name their HDL evolved engine the GEVO series rather than an calling it an "HDL plus" or whatever..
After all both the HDL and 265 series engines were not widely accepted by the railroad industry, at least in North America.
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They've not changed the name of the locomotive tho, a 4-stroke SD70? Never...
GDRMCo They've not changed the name of the locomotive tho, a 4-stroke SD70? Never...
A continuation of EMD's campaign to befuddle railfans; after all the SD75 model was superceded by SD70 variants with the same power rating...I agree though, it really should be an SD89Ace except what if they rated the engine at 4300 HP rather than 4500? Would that make it an SD88?
I'm not either, I am just interested in whether or not the 1010 represents the cylinder displacement in the new prime mover.
Regarding designation, EMD sort of put themselves in a tight spot. 80 and 90 series models were built, and they probably don't want to go to the 100 series, so 70 it stays.
Yes, 1010 is the (metric dimensions for inch volumetrics - thanks, Peter!) cylinder displacement. Give me some time and I'll look up the bore and stroke for you (but someone who knows the tech blindfolded will beat me to it).
Yes, 1010 is the (metric) cylinder displacement. Give me some time and I'll look up the bore and stroke for you (but someone who knows the tech blindfolded will beat me to it).
My recollection is that the 265 was 265 bore (of course) by 300 stroke
That gives 16543 cubic centimetres = 1009.51 cubic inches....
So it is a 265 in one respect...
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Thanks, guys, for the information.
But, But, Does CAT know anything about 4-Stroke engines?
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GDRMCoIt'd be rated at 4500hp....
Is there a source for that?
I ask because the GEVO engine could technically have had a 4500 HP rating (the 16 cylinder version is rated between 5800-6000 HP depending on settings) but GE rated it at 4400 HP.
Also there seem to be a few questions on this thread about whether ot not the 1010 is a "clean sheet of paper" desing but industry sources like "Railway Age" have clearly reported that it is derived from the 265H engine.
Of course the GE GEVO has significant improvements compared the earlier HDL it was developed from, enough thet the manufacturer marketed it as a new engine line. So it makes sense that EMD is persuing a similiar strategy with the 1010.
Does anyone know what the SD70ACe-T4 locomotive will look like? Will it look likethe non tier 4 SD70ACe's or will it be completly different?
carnej1whether ot not the 1010 is a "clean sheet of paper" desing
caldreamer Does anyone know what the SD70ACe-T4 locomotive will look like? Will it look likethe non tier 4 SD70ACe's or will it be completly different?
Only an insider might have an idea at this time, but I'd say it's safe to assume that it will have a family resemblance to what they were producing before Tier 4.
I expect the same cab, same trucks, same aux cab and inverter box, same fuel tank, and modified radiator and long hood.
That was what I was thinking. Very similar to lwhat the GE Gevo's and the T4's are. Very similar, bu not exactly the same.
According to insiders it'll have a new wide cab, the 4th (well 5th) new wide cab on an EMD since the first SD70.
Also, all CAT makes for the most part are 4-stroke engines....
carnej1 whether ot not the 1010 is a "clean sheet of paper" design
Is everyone agreed it's 265 mm bore and 300 mm stroke? Was the 265 the same?
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timz M636C GEVO is 270 x 320 250 by 320, you mean?
M636C GEVO is 270 x 320
250 by 320, you mean?
Indeed I did... Post edited to remove typo...
The photo shown in TRAINS is a 'test mule.'
There's no such thing as a 'wide cab'.
bcrnfan There's no such thing as a 'wide cab'.
There is when compared to a narrow cab.
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