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No BN/BNSF SD70MAC was Tier 2.
I've been wondering when we'd see something here with the SD70MAC fleet. Glad to see that hopefully at least a significant portion of the fleet has a long life ahead of it.
Can't imagine it encompassing the entire fleet of survivors though. Anyone familiar with the different groups and whether they're leased or owned (I imagine the leased units will be the least likely to enter this program)?
Ok, since they first wwre deliverd in 1993 these engines have to had to meet the tier 2 standrads straight from the factory. So a rebuild would be far less than the 2.2 million dollars for a new engine and they would still meet the r emissions standrad.
narig01 Just a comment. A week and a half ago I was thru Lincoln, Ne on SR-2 / US 77 and was surprised to see that the dead line there is gone.(No locos stored). In 15 years of going thru this is the first time I had not seen any stored locomotives. I meant to post something about this. But this seemed a good place to ask. The query is where did these locomotives go? Thx IGN
Just a comment. A week and a half ago I was thru Lincoln, Ne on SR-2 / US 77 and was surprised to see that the dead line there is gone.(No locos stored).
In 15 years of going thru this is the first time I had not seen any stored locomotives. I meant to post something about this. But this seemed a good place to ask. The query is where did these locomotives go?
Thx IGN
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Oops sorry!!! I meant another model.
"Look away...look south"
"An average locomotive's lifespan is about 25 to 30 years...."
This could be true, yet this actually went to steam locomotives who lasted that long (!).
As Silicon212 mentioned, the oldest SD70MAC (BNSF 9401) is approaching 17 - 18 years. They have surely racked up more miles than the average SD40-2, but there hasn't been any retirements...yet. However, BNSF may sell or retire them since they were the earliest examples of operating with Alternating Current and computers. Why? The technology wasn't completely refined as it is today with SD70ACe's or ES44AC's. The inverters then proved to be expensive as they had to generate a variable frequency.
A recorrection of the SD70MAC's built:
November 1993 - September 1994Burlington Northern 9400 - 9474 (Units were not built in sequence)August 1994 - March 1995Burlington Northern 9475 - 9499, 9504 - 9541November 1994 - January 1995Burlington Northern 9542 - 9571March 1995 - January 1996Burlington Northern 9572 - 9710June - July 1996Burlington Northern 9713 - 9716 (DPU Test Units)January 1996Burlington Northern Santa Fe 9711 - 9712
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silicon212 The oldest mainline SD70MACs are approaching 18 years.
The oldest mainline SD70MACs are approaching 18 years.
Which means that for accounting and tax purposes, they are fully depreciated.
i would like to know how old were the sd70macs my understanding that they weren't that old if so how old may be 25 years or less
Andrew FalconerI saw the new BNSF SD70MACs being delivered over the GTW in 1995 and 1996. I wonder if these are ones that are going to be leased, as the SD70ACe fleet overtakes them in performance. Andrew
I saw the new BNSF SD70MACs being delivered over the GTW in 1995 and 1996. I wonder if these are ones that are going to be leased, as the SD70ACe fleet overtakes them in performance.
Andrew
I would think that yes, the ACe's coming in along with the general traffic downturn would be why they are up for lease.
Older power has customarily been that which was leased out when one road had a power surplus and another had a power shortage.
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Looks like this is way off topic now.
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BNSF is sending some of their SD70MACs to Mexico for short-term lease to FXE. I have seen elswhere that 40 is the number. That matches what I have found, here. The following are at El Paso, TX: 9646, 9647, 9649, 9650, 9651, 9652, 9653, 9656, 9658, 9659, 9661, 9663, 9666, 9668, 9673, 9674, 9675, 9682, 9683, 9713, 9714, 9716 There are two light engine moves, Alliance to El Paso. This one departed May 8: 9643, 9670, 9672, 9676, 9677, 9679, 9685, 9687 This one departed May 11: 9648, 9654, 9657, 9669, 9681, 9684 And four more on a vehicle train to El Paso: 9660, 9665, 9678, 9686
YoHo1975I was basing my comments on Pitt on "number of Air action days"
I was basing my comments on Pitt on "number of Air action days"
I will vouch for the Slovak women.
Just don't call them Czech or Czechoslovakian.
edbentonSlovack and German with some Irish here.
Slovack and German with some Irish here.
My wife is 100% Slovak. It is amusing when she tells people her heritage, and everybody usually reply "Wow that's interesting." Then they think about it and say "Umm...what's a Slovak?"
That's when I reply "Slovakia is a small Eastern European country that is home to the most beautiful women in the world" Instant points scored with the wife. LOL. Actually, if you have every been to Slovakia or the neighboring Czech Republic you will find that is absolutely true about the women.
blue streak 1GP40-2 Sorry, but this really made me chuckle. Do you have any biological statistics showing this trend of " 6-9 inches shorter"?What made you immune to the pollution but not others? How did the smog make other people shorter? If ok: No scientific studies at all. However I am 6'3" and when I visited downtown Pitt in the late 60s and 70s I could see over almost the whole crowd. Now when I returned in the late 90s I could no longer do that. Unscientific? Yes! Not a random sampling? Yes! Just was very startling when I was able to see over the crowd. Same effect I also noted in Glascow Scottland at about the same time periods. (another poluted area in the time B4 WW 2 and the 1970s. I did not live in these polution areas but when in them did not have some of the problems as other contemporarys did have.. As to why shorter? I have no idea. Suspect growth retarded somehow but only suspicion.
GP40-2 Sorry, but this really made me chuckle. Do you have any biological statistics showing this trend of " 6-9 inches shorter"?What made you immune to the pollution but not others? How did the smog make other people shorter? If
Sorry, but this really made me chuckle. Do you have any biological statistics showing this trend of " 6-9 inches shorter"?What made you immune to the pollution but not others? How did the smog make other people shorter?
If
ok: No scientific studies at all. However I am 6'3" and when I visited downtown Pitt in the late 60s and 70s I could see over almost the whole crowd. Now when I returned in the late 90s I could no longer do that. Unscientific? Yes! Not a random sampling? Yes! Just was very startling when I was able to see over the crowd. Same effect I also noted in Glascow Scottland at about the same time periods. (another poluted area in the time B4 WW 2 and the 1970s.
I did not live in these polution areas but when in them did not have some of the problems as other contemporarys did have..
As to why shorter? I have no idea. Suspect growth retarded somehow but only suspicion.
YoHo1975Pittsburgh still has some of the worst Airquality in the country.
That's really not true. The problem is with one, and only one, particulate reporting station that is located in a valley ***directly*** downwind of the Clairton Coke Works. None of the other reporting stations in Allegheny County report bad air quality. However, all it takes it one "bad" reporting station to get a bad rating.
They have been trying for years to get this station moved to a better location, but to no avail. The problem will go away by 2014 since United States Steel has committed billions of dollars to upgrade the Coke Works, which will make it the most pollution free facility of that type in the world.
Other than Clariton Coke, and the nearby Mon Valley Steel Works, the Pittsburgh area is pretty much free of traditional heavy manufacturing now. The vast majority of any air pollution present is what drifts in from the Mid-West. The Mid-Western states are also under federal orders to reduce that pollution.
Are you a 5'-0" blonde, white female, < 25 y-o-a? Maybe I could take you away from the (cough) air qualility in Pittsburgh! We'un's got horses, out here in Montana!
Hays
Slovack and German with some Irish here. Oldest Brother is 5-10 Middle one is 6-1 I am 6-6 we think the Oldest one ended up with more Irish blood than the rest of US. Trouble is I got the IRSIH temper. My wife is 6-1 so lord help me with the kids my daughter at 3 is already over 3 feet tall my son at 7 is close to 4 and a half feet tall. My youngest is 7 months and allready is over 28 inches long. I AM IN TROUBLE for clothes when they get older. Maybe one of my kids will be able to catch a football or shoot a basketball and get into the pros. Beter yet be a Linebacker. I can dream can't I
blue streak 1... Another strange effect was thru the 1960s people in the Pittsburgh area were at least 6 - 9 inches shorter than others not in that area. Smog never had much effect on me but guess I just picked the correct parents. But other people I knew--------------????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Smog never had much effect on me but guess I just picked the correct parents. But other people I knew--------------????????!!!!!!!!!!!
If anything, I have found that people in Western Pennsylvania tend to be bigger than average due to so many of them being of either German or Eastern European heritage, which in general tend to be a taller people. I'm 6' 2", and I was at best average height for males in my high school.
Why CAT has mixed results is his . They are like FM an Oddball. You give the same 3516 that was in the MK5000 series they can make that baby sing for MONTHS at a time. See RR mechanics like thing SIMPLE PULL AND REPLACE. That is how they work I have had a couple ex roundhouse workers as in shops were I was a Driver. NO DIAGNOSTIC SKILLS they throw parts at it til they get it fixed. Could that be why EMD is still using the BASIC design since the late 30's that way they can keep the old hands from going NUTS. As soon as I saw EMD came out with the H block series I knew that it was going to be a Failure for this one reason RR's HATE CHANGE. Look at their History they fought Airbrakes Automatic Couplers heck they have fought ANYTHING that would have brought Change to THEM.
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