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Union Pacific Heritage Fleet - Next Major Project?

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:27 PM

YEAH! YEAH!

I just get so MAD!  AngrySoapBoxBang HeadGrumpy

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Posted by Penny Trains on Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:32 PM

Flintlock76
There IS a 529 at the Northwest Railway Museum in Snoqualmie WA. Maybe that's the one?

Ha ha!  Nice detective work!  Bow  It is indeed the No 529 at NRW!

http://www.rgusrail.com/wanrm.html#upc57529

It's in line with NP L-5 #924:

Canadian Collieries #14:

Ohio Match #4:

Weyerhauser Timber #6:

and Eastern Railway & Lumber #1:

They wouldn't win beauty contests with anybody but railfans but thank the heavens they survive!

Trains, trains, wonderful trains.  The more you get, the more you toot!  Big Smile

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Posted by Paul Milenkovic on Sunday, June 30, 2019 8:44 PM

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Flintlock76
Ain't gonna happen. OK, I know that's what "they" said about the Big Boy, but the 9000's another story.

 

It's the TTT that's another story. Probably no one sane could make a case for operating that thing.  But a Nine is a different thing entirely.

Nines could run happily up to 60mph, have relatively low inherent augment, and have the sustained power to run trips of adequate capacity.

[quote[I can't see the UP Steam Team being all that enthusiastic about that three-cylinder maintenance headache.[/quote]

Only a major headache if run to make a buck at the lowest possible cost.  Rebuilt to documented standards, with use of modern materials in places like the conjugating-gear pins, and with regular attentive maintenance of typical 'steam team' quality, the thing will go almost anywhere -- it's really just a long one-and-a-half Mountain.  In the days of the ACE3000 an underfloor lathe to keep the driver tires properly dressed was an exotic machine ... not so today.

But still do 3985 first!

 

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After reading Kratville in the State Historical Society library, I think I know what people mean by a "Nine."   What is a "TTT"?

I hadn't thought of the low augment, even with long connecting rods, resulting from 3 cylinders, a crank axle and 120-deg crank angles.  

That one of these locomotives is in Pomona, CA in and of itself is a serious problem.  I read somewhere that the UP had the hardest time, even with the lateral motion on some of the drivers, getting that thing with its enormous rigid wheelbase over the Cajon Pass to its resting place in Pomona.  How are they going to ever get that thing back out of the LA Basin for operation in excursion service?

 

 

If GM "killed the electric car", what am I doing standing next to an EV-1, a half a block from the WSOR tracks?

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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, June 30, 2019 8:52 PM

Paul Milenkovic
After reading Kratville in the State Historical Society library, I think I know what people mean by a "Nine." What is a "TTT"?

Believe it or not, it follows the convention of the mighty 800s in nomenclature; if you know what FEF stands for, TTT will be no mystery.  It's the 'other' large locomotive in Cheyenne, the 5511's official class.

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, June 30, 2019 9:15 PM

FEF is Four Eight Four

TTT is Two Ten Two 

So be it

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, July 1, 2019 9:50 AM

To "Penny Trains..."

Thank you Ma'am!  

Brother, those other engines are horrors as well.  Hey, it beats a scrap yard I guess.  Where there's "life" there's hope.

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