The most recent newsletter (Dec 25) does not contain anything regarding the PA.
I suspect this is the video you are referring to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erdozXTWrXw
I do not subscribe to Rapido's newsletter, but I do check their website on a regular basis:
https://rapidotrains.com/content/rapido-newsletters
Has anyone ever made a Turboliner model before?
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How many operable PAs are there? And how many that operate regularly?
Flintlock76I was curious because I haven't seen any video of the PA running anywhere, or even photos in "Trains" or other publications, unless I missed them somehow. Hence the question.
Mr. McCormack retired as president of the museum in March of this year, I think in part to address much of the 'finishing' of this labor of love.
See this clip from Rapido, November 19th, that discusses some of their new PA project. Asked in the comments whether some of the revenue from PA projects would go toward the restoration, they replied
'We are looking into that right now. Watch our newsletter for an announcement.
Someone who gets the Rapido newsletter might tell us if there's been an announcement.
The engine was visually complete years ago, and was said to be runnable at the time of the Streamliners in Spencer event. My guess is that the remaining work is all relatively small but significant detailing, similar to what needed doing (and to an extent still does) with CSRM's 'rebuilt camera car' Krauss-Maffei.
Oh, the FM trucks don't bother me in the least, Amazon doesn't sell old Alco trucks, and ol' Doyle had to use something.
I was curious because I haven't seen any video of the PA running anywhere, or even photos in "Trains" or other publications, unless I missed them somehow.
Hence the question.
Flintlock76By the way, anyone know anything about Doyle McCormack's Alco PA restoration? He's come an amazingly long way, but things seem to have gone quiet.
To be honest I lost interest when they put the visibly FM trucks on there (and not made the attempt to salvage some sort of Erie-built out of the old rail-grinding train). To me that's as glaring as putting Little Joe underframes on a GG1.
It'll run, and be kept safe. It was fun to watch them work on it. Why ask for more?
By the way, anyone know anything about Doyle McCormack's Alco PA restoration? He's come an amazingly long way, but things seem to have gone quiet.
Well, art's in the eye of the beholder. I definitely prefer the high-hood versions of those models, and all other road-switchers where both versions were built.
I just like high hoods. YMMV.
Lithonia Operator I like pretty much all high-hood road-switchers compared to their low-hood counterparts.
I like pretty much all high-hood road-switchers compared to their low-hood counterparts.
Aesthetically my favourite early diesel locomotives were the high-nose GE U25Bs.
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PAs and FAs are very attractive engines. But to me, nothing beats EMD Es and Fs.
As for first generation Geeps, I also admire the Alco RS-11; I love the nose treatment on those.
Still in training.
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Leo_Ames I really doubt GM hired Cesar Vergara to style their Cadillacs. But maybe they did, they've sure been getting ugly in recent years.
I really doubt GM hired Cesar Vergara to style their Cadillacs. But maybe they did, they've sure been getting ugly in recent years.
And older gent I worked with years ago who was a car guy used to say as far as cars go "There's nothing uglier than an old Cadillac!"
"I don't know why that is, they always look good new!" he said.
He owned a '37 Cord at one time, but that's another story.
I don't think ALCo PA had anything to do with "ugliness", but two of my favorite early diesel (in terms of aesthetics) in the States are MILW Erie-Built with flute steel sheet around the headlight and M-10005/M-10006 ( City of Denver of 1940)
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I actually think the modern-day Suburban XL resembles an Alco PA.
Hold up broadside pictures of the two next to each other.
http://www.museumoftheamericanrailroad.org/collection/restorationprojects/projectalcopa.aspx
http://newcarreleasenews.com/2018-chevrolet-suburban/2018-chevrolet-suburban-exterior-wallpapers/
Now we just need someone to paint one with the Santa Fe Warbonnet.
The passenger locomotive market was a moot point by the late 1950's. Nobody made a locomotive with fins like a '59 Cadillac.
In my dim and distant high school days, I remember shooting what may be the last pictures of ATSF 51 and 51A in the scrap line at Pielet Bros. in April of 1969.
Thank You.
RS11's are certainly very muscular-looking, kind of like an RS3 that's spent a couple of months in the gym.
Favorite first generation road switcher based purely on aesthetics: RS11.
Why? I like the little "pinches" at the tops of the hoods.
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
I like the smoke they put out, some people call them the "steam engine of diesels". First experience with them was riding A&M
Shock Control I have read some things online claiming that the Alco PA is the most beautiful diesel locomotive ever. Personally, I find them ugly. They look to me like a Bizarro World E7, or like the hellspawn of Satan and an E7. Or like an E7 that took steroids and showed up at a monster truck rally. On the positive side, I do like the top curve over the driver's side window. What sayest thou?
I have read some things online claiming that the Alco PA is the most beautiful diesel locomotive ever.
Personally, I find them ugly. They look to me like a Bizarro World E7, or like the hellspawn of Satan and an E7. Or like an E7 that took steroids and showed up at a monster truck rally.
On the positive side, I do like the top curve over the driver's side window.
What sayest thou?
Personally, I think the PA, as well as the FA are beautiful engines; far better looking than the E series engines. Unfortunately, the only ones I ever saw live were perhaps the best of the best though. The D&H PA's (all 4) at Whitehall, N.Y. while I was there one day. The blue and silver plated warbonnets were just striking in appearance.
isn"t it all relative to what you get to see these days?. i've been watching Del.Lack operate 4-6 old, dirty Alcos for a while. They work and i still look forward to seeing them, especially when they break out a "new" engine, you haven't seen before. the other day they had a something + Adirondack hooked up. 6 engines pulling about 75 cars.
The Alco PA sound was something I still recall today. It reminds one of the old 426 Hemi built by Chyrsler during the muscle car era. Like the PA engine, it didn't need a tune up either. For a comparison though, while both seemed like they were about to shut off between each cycle the engine took, only when the throttle/gas pedal was applied did they "come alive," and there they proved to be the classic engine. Yes, the sound of the PA is the sound of a classic diesel. As for the looks, I'll take it anyday over the E8/E9's . . . but then again, it's the sound of that diesel engine I'll always remember.
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