With the current situation in Canada where big steam is somewhat stymied (hopefully temporarily) it is worthwhile to remember the steam power used in the Dominion. The locomotives used proved capable of handling whatever was asked of them, and the railroads accomplished their mission as arteries of commerce with great aplomb, and always a touch of class.
Canadian Class 1 - Canadian Pacific Selkirks, Northerns and Hudsons
Selkirk 2-10-4 T1b-T1c...
Selkirk 2-10-4 T1a...
Northern 4-8-4 K1a...
Hudson 4-6-4 H1a-H1b...
Hudson 4-6-4 H1c-H1d-H1e...
Kgbw49- Thanks for this. Terrific stuff. We sure were lucky to have been around for a time when they were in regular service, whether Royal Hudson's or Erie Berkshires.
There is a good cross section of the big steamers preserved in Canada but most will never run again.
I can still see the CNR streamlined Northerns barrelling through town non stop. Incredible sight.
It alway struck me that Canadian steam locomotives seemed to be an interesting cross between the British and American design theorys, with the best of both blended seamlessly.
Kgb said it; Class, pure class.
Canadian Class 2 - Canadian National Hudsons and 4-6-4Ts
Hudson 4-6-4 K5a
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And another few Canadian National 4-6-4s - the K2 4-6-4T...
One of Two. Both gone by 1946.http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7HPXMiFTTDs/UUN7DvyNSOI/AAAAAAAA4hw/Nhmo2xJ6TcY/s1600/PHOTO+-+TORONTO+-+TRAIN+-+CANADIAN+PACIFIC+-+STEAM+ENGINE+29001+MOUNTAIN+TYPE+ON+ROUNDHOUSE+TURNNTABLE++-+ROYAL+YORK+BEHIND+-+1932.jpg Thank You.
Thanks, NDG! I will include them in the next round. I had forgotten about them!
What I like about the 3100-3101 is they look like an H1a Hudson but just extended by one driver.
And the 2900-2901 Mountains look like a G2 Pacifc but just extended by one driver, too.
Both classy looking machines that handled the night trains between Montreal and Toronto with great aplomb!
It is tough to find pictures of them, though! But we will see what we can dig up!
Thanks again!
kgbw49What I like about the 3000-3001 is they look like an H1a Hudson but just extended by one driver.
Do you mean 'shrunk'? (3000-3001 were high-speed Jubilees)
Or do you mean the K-class 4-8-4s, 3100 and 3101? (I had thought these were more related to Selkirks than Royal Hudsons... but never checked primary dimensions to see)
My own opinion is that 3101 at IPSCO in Regina is still the most ideal 'candidate' for a locomotive to commemorate the occasion - capable of handling heavy trains on 2% and also any current CP track speed. Perhaps not as famous, elegant, or well-restored as 2816, of course.
The banjo frames on the CN 4-6-4s seem to have lasted a long time compared with other locomotive classes that had them.
Canadian Class 3 - Canadian Pacific Mountains and Jubilees
Mountain 4-8-2 Class I1a
Jubilee 4-4-4 Class F1a-F2a
Thank You.
RME, yes, 3100-3101. Thanks for catching that.
And of course the 2900-2901 Mountains were off the roster by the time the 2900 Jubilees came around. I meant to say that the 2900-2901 Mountains looked like an extended G2 Pacific from that time.
Thanks!
The last steam I saw in regular service, not excursion service (6218, 6060) through my hometown of Burlington was a CPR Jubillee pulling a string of RDC's over the Christmas season 1959.
Also see several pictures in "Old Time Trains" with Jubilee's and RDC's together In various other locations In Southern Ontario.
My question is: I assume the RDC's were not under power, locomotive wise, and used as regular passenger equipment. Is this correct?
Found several more nuggets on CPR Selkirks, Northerns and Hudson, and a few more on Jubiliees, and added them to the prior posts if anyone is interested. Will be looking at CN again in Canadian Class 4 as soon as I get a chance. Just great, great stuff - hard working railroads done with panache, spit and polish.
What fabulous looking machines!
I had to surpress a giggle at the "Jubilee" types, though. They look like the Marx toy locomotives on steroids!
Those Marx toys were pretty attractive too!
PS: I can see why when he did one of his railbooks the late Don Ball always started off the show with a trip to Canada.
Canadian Class 4 - Canadian National Mountains
U-1-a, U-1-b, U-1-d, U-1-e, U-1-f
Great stuff...sure takes me back.
The bullet nose Betty's had really nice whistles. Beautiful sound.
CNR- lots of Mountains in several classes and wide range of appearances; CPR-had 2
CNR- largest fleet of Northerns in the world in many classes; CPR had 2
CPR- large fleet of Hudson's in several classes; CNR had 5
CPR-large fleet of Jubilee's; CNR had none
Competed in the same places throughout the entire land coast to coast yet such differing philosophies in motive power.
Torontonian's will recognize this location instantly. Approaching the CNE fairgrounds and Toronto Union Station. This road, Lakeshore Road has been replaced by the QEW Hwy. and Lakeshore Road itself rebuilt further to the left of the picture. Basically it looks the same overall, with the steep hills and the railroad paralleling the QEW and Lakeshore Road.
One thing however...never seen it this empty. Both roads are jammed bumper to bumper just about 24/7 now.
This photo is from a Sunday morning, the "Sunday's Only" train from Buffalo, originating in NYC. Schedule had it arriving 30 minutes later than the "Daily Except Sunday". How times have changed.
Of note- starting in the 70's until today, while folks in their cars inch along painfully and maddeningly each day, VIA Trains and GO commuters whiz right on by at 80 mph...drives 'em nuts.
never knew that Jubalees were used on freight. great photos
thanks!
Miningman, love the way that G3 is cracking the whip on Sunday morning! What a classic looking train!
Don't forget the Grand Trunk!
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
I thought the Grand Trunk hauled circus elephants?
Just kidding! GREAT job on that watercolor Becky! You should take commissions!
Awesome water color! It would be great to see that unit rolling again someday too!
Canadian Class 5 - Canadian Pacific Pacifics
Maybe some of you know about this, but for those who don't...
David P. Morgan did a book in 1961, published by Kalmbach, called simply "Canadian Steam!", the exclaimation point being his.
It's a photo anthology of Canadian steam locomotives, just like kgb's favored us with. Great rail photographer names like David Plowden, J.P. Lamb, Don Wood, Phil Hastings, Jim Shaughnessy, A.C. Kalmbach himself, and John A. Rehor among others.
Mine's a second printing from 1964, don't remember just where I found it but I'm sure glad I did. All black-and-white shots but all good or better than good.
It's one to keep an eye out for, trust me. Check those train shows and used book dealers!
Added more to the Canadian Pacific Pacifics - they had a lot of them - sleek varnish runners and brawny dual purpose units.
Also added a few more to the Canadian Pacific Jubiiees and Hudsons.
daveklepper, the caption on this photo said this Jubilee was heading west to Smith's Falls with 60 cars of freight...
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