Leo_Ames That's not correct, it's well documented what happened when the end came. Take what Steve Lee, the head of Union Pacific's program at the time, wrote about it. http://www.brucebharper.info/nwrwy/1218.html Just ignore the nonsense where he essentially claims that Norfolk Southern did us a generous favor by not just scrapping her and had no right to be displeased in the slightest that she wasn't left complete.
That's not correct, it's well documented what happened when the end came. Take what Steve Lee, the head of Union Pacific's program at the time, wrote about it.
http://www.brucebharper.info/nwrwy/1218.html
Just ignore the nonsense where he essentially claims that Norfolk Southern did us a generous favor by not just scrapping her and had no right to be displeased in the slightest that she wasn't left complete.
Well, we ARE lucky 1218 wasn't scrapped altogether. With the mention of so much stuff being scraped, and the boiler an empty shell, if 1218 were restored, and all of the missing parts remade, how much of 1218 would still actually be original?
From what I heard, much work on the Tubes needs to be done, I heard no because it will cost way too much money
Firelock76 It was my understanding that when the curtain fell in 1994 all the parts off 1218 were thrown in the tender, or loosely put back on, or in the case of the removed flues were shoved back in the boiler shell. As far I've heard nothing's gone missing. Hope springs eternal. So if I hit the "Powerball" this weekend...
It was my understanding that when the curtain fell in 1994 all the parts off 1218 were thrown in the tender, or loosely put back on, or in the case of the removed flues were shoved back in the boiler shell. As far I've heard nothing's gone missing.
Hope springs eternal. So if I hit the "Powerball" this weekend...
If hit hit? You'll bring back 1218? Man you would have a new best friend.......
Remember ALS #12!
It would be nice, but seriously, any steam-operating society will almost always have trouble running just one. Right now I would think the museum has it's hands full with the 611. Operating any steam locomotive is a HUGE financial undertaking. I'm surprised the museum could afford to take both out for as long as they did. The 1218 was cosmetically restored after the program fell out from under here during her rebuild. Depending on how thorough the cosmetic restoration was, the locomotive may or may not be missing internal parts, i.e. flues, valves, compressors. It would be nice, but is unlikely to happen in the next few years.
Remember that the restoration of 611 for steam operation is the project of the Museum, and not NS, although NS is giving full cooperation. I agree 1218 should get the same treatment, because the NS A was and is another outstanding steam locomotive design. It can happen if after the 611 is restored, enough money is raised and donated to the Museum to do the job properly, probably double or triple the funds needed for 611.
Although not impossible, 1218 was the process of rebuilding when the program was terminated thus the rebuild was never completed, she is now quite incomplete missing major items such as tubes/flues. NS has no desire to revive the steam program although they appear willing to host visting steam.
Dave
I think the current management of N&W is rather set against ever reviving steam operations
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