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CSX to Decentralize Dispatching Functions

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CSX to Decentralize Dispatching Functions
Posted by Limitedclear on Monday, July 2, 2007 10:21 AM

JAX to lose 300 jobs in move to decentralize dispatching functions 

http://www.ble.org/pr/news/headline.asp?id=18977

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, July 2, 2007 11:19 AM

Somebody finally got smart in the operating department. Sounds like the maniacal meglo-micromanagers have either retired or have been told to "go away". When they all started centrallizing and consolidating in the eighties, the dispatchers lost touch with their territories and the railroads, especially the M/W folks, paid for it dearly.

Will they ALL trend this way now?

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Posted by rrnut282 on Monday, July 2, 2007 11:27 AM
Interesting that Indianapolis isn't listed as a benficiary of job relocations.  I would think (there I go thinking again while talking about CSX) that it would be easier to expand an existing dispatching center and its territory, than to build another from scratch.  I guess CSX has seen the light of placing all of their eggs in one hurricane-prone location.
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Posted by rrnut282 on Monday, July 2, 2007 11:30 AM

MC posted while I was typing my previous post.

NS never centralized dispatching and neither did Conrail, which accounts for the INDY center on CSX.  It must have been really expensive to fly the dispatcher to "his/her territory" for an annual ride.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, July 2, 2007 11:38 AM

I found it interesting to visit Michigan and hear a distinctly southern accent on the dispatchers...

Selkirk never went away for the former Conrail lines up in this area, either.

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Posted by beaulieu on Monday, July 2, 2007 11:39 AM
 rrnut282 wrote:

MC posted while I was typing my previous post.

NS never centralized dispatching and neither did Conrail, which accounts for the INDY center on CSX.  It must have been really expensive to fly the dispatcher to "his/her territory" for an annual ride.

It probably was expensive, probably didn't happen often or at all. Any ride over the territory by the dispatcher probably happened because the dispatcher felt it would make them a better dispatcher. There is no requirement that the dispatcher ride the territory. Only that they know the relevant rules.

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Posted by MP173 on Monday, July 2, 2007 11:49 AM

So, how helpful is it for a dispatcher to "know" the territory?  It would seem to me that it would certainly help.

Do many dispatchers move over from other positions, such as crewmen?

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, July 2, 2007 11:52 AM
 beaulieu wrote:
 rrnut282 wrote:

MC posted while I was typing my previous post.

NS never centralized dispatching and neither did Conrail, which accounts for the INDY center on CSX.  It must have been really expensive to fly the dispatcher to "his/her territory" for an annual ride.

It probably was expensive, probably didn't happen often or at all. Any ride over the territory by the dispatcher probably happened because the dispatcher felt it would make them a better dispatcher. There is no requirement that the dispatcher ride the territory. Only that they know the relevant rules.

On Santa Fe, before consolidation, it was required (along with the roadmasters). Chief DS often put 'em on roadswitchers and made sure the trick DS was not aware of who was on the train that day. Made for some interesting conversations later. You can never stop learning.

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Posted by jeaton on Monday, July 2, 2007 12:38 PM
 Limitedclear wrote:

JAX to lose 300 jobs in move to decentralize dispatching functions 

http://www.ble.org/pr/news/headline.asp?id=18977 

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, July 2, 2007 12:52 PM

.....Finally, from what I've been hearing RR employees saying over the years on here....common sense is being put to use.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 2, 2007 12:55 PM
 beaulieu wrote:
 rrnut282 wrote:

MC posted while I was typing my previous post.

NS never centralized dispatching and neither did Conrail, which accounts for the INDY center on CSX.  It must have been really expensive to fly the dispatcher to "his/her territory" for an annual ride.

It probably was expensive, probably didn't happen often or at all. Any ride over the territory by the dispatcher probably happened because the dispatcher felt it would make them a better dispatcher. There is no requirement that the dispatcher ride the territory. Only that they know the relevant rules.

I Would DEFINATELY want the dispatcher to get his *** out of the chair and pounding the ballast in the territory he runs. It will make him or her a much better dispatcher.

As long they sort out the pecking order from the top all the way down to the choo choo crew... Im content.

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Posted by overall on Monday, July 2, 2007 2:31 PM

I wonder what Don Phillips thinks of this. He had called for de-centralization years ago, now it's happening. I would love to hear his thoughts on it.

 

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Posted by nbrodar on Monday, July 2, 2007 2:45 PM

Indianapolis probably wasn't mentioned because that move, along with a move to Chicago took place last year.  I believe the move to Baltimore is next.

After several close calls (including one mass evacuation) over the past few years, CSX finally decided that Hurricane Alley was not a good location to centralize it's Command and Control location.  I also think Homeland Security had something to do with it.

Historically, dispatchers usually started out as tower operators (at least that's where a lot of our's came from).  Nowadays, they are just as likely to come from the Operating Crafts (T&E, Yardmaster, Trainmaster) as directly hired off the street.

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Posted by wiley-dispatcher on Monday, July 2, 2007 4:12 PM

I work in the Indy dispatching office for CSX and as Nick already stated the Indy office already received three new jobs.  The Willard Chief, AT (New Castle, now IO desk), and BD (Willard Terminal, now IP desk) all moved up last September.  The entire Great Lakes divison dispatchers are all together in the newly remodeled office in downtown Indy. 

  Overall I'd say 2/3 of the current dispatchers I work with have prior railroad experience.  Of course road trips always help, it just happens to be rather difficult to get them every year like I'd prefer.  It's nice to know where the best places to hold trains are, and where crews need a little heads up on a lineup if they have to hold back.  Luckily, a lot of the territory I dispatch and chief over is what I used to run on as a conductor.  I've been that conductor sitting in the hotel for 30 hours wondering why I'm still there.  It's impossible to keep everyone happy; all I can do is be honest and explain why things are happening they way they are.  I can tell you one thing.  Dispatching was a great career move for me, and I really enjoy it. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 2, 2007 4:32 PM

  What????!!!

  Ok does that mean that they are moving the dispatch jobs to the Phillipenes???

  Or If we really want decentralize we could bring back the towers!!

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Posted by GP40-2 on Monday, July 2, 2007 10:40 PM
 Limitedclear wrote:

JAX to lose 300 jobs in move to decentralize dispatching functions 

http://www.ble.org/pr/news/headline.asp?id=18977

That may not be the only jobs they lose. There is talk about moving the entire HQ operation back to the Mid-Atlantic area. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 2, 2007 10:57 PM
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  What????!!!

  Ok does that mean that they are moving the dispatch jobs to the Phillipenes???

  Or If we really want decentralize we could bring back the towers!!

Dont give them any ideas. With today's technology it might just be possible to pay a village to tell the difference between a red signal and a green one and always keep a yellow in the middle for a dollar a day.

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Posted by ValleyX on Tuesday, July 3, 2007 6:03 AM
 GP40-2 wrote:
 Limitedclear wrote:

JAX to lose 300 jobs in move to decentralize dispatching functions 

http://www.ble.org/pr/news/headline.asp?id=18977

That may not be the only jobs they lose. There is talk about moving the entire HQ operation back to the Mid-Atlantic area. 

 

Maybe they will move to the Tidewater area, build a building within rock-throwing distance of the McKinnon Building, rather than move back to Richmond. 

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