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The death of a dash
Posted by pedrop on Monday, January 15, 2007 5:42 PM

A bad view: Ferronorte 9011 at Bernardo Monteiro yard waiting to be scarapped. Sad [:(]This C44-9w is nearly new. Have you seen dash locomotives in their last moments? Post the pictures here, if you got them.Smile [:)]

 

 

 

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Posted by pedrop on Monday, January 15, 2007 5:46 PM

Sorry, I wrote scarapped, but understand Scrapped. Here is more one picture of 9011 in its last moments.

 

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Posted by gabe on Monday, January 15, 2007 5:55 PM
 pedrop wrote:

Sorry, I wrote scarapped, but understand Scrapped. Here is more one picture of 9011 in its last moments.

 

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Was it in a wreck or something or do Brazilian units have a considerably shorter shelf life than Amercian units?

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Posted by pedrop on Monday, January 15, 2007 6:08 PM

Was it in a wreck or something or do Brazilian units have a considerably shorter shelf life than Amercian units?

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Yes, it was a wreck while leading a soybean train 2 years ago. 

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Monday, January 15, 2007 6:26 PM

<>looks like it was cooked to well done in the crash too

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, January 15, 2007 6:31 PM
Looks like it was wrecked and then was on fire.  The wreck damage itself would appear repairable.  The fire damage appears to have engulfed the entire engine and the heat from the fire has probably changed the heat treated properties of the metal to the extent that no one knows if any individual metal part is able to withstand the rigors of normal use, so in the intrests of safety the unit should be scrapped.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, January 15, 2007 7:00 PM

I feel your pain, Pedro!

I don't think I've seen, or even heard, of one of the Dash-9s around here being scrapped, but I'm sure that some have been, due to wreck damage.  But some of these Dash-9s are going on twelve years old (back in the 60s, twelve-year-old locomotives were considered trade-in fodder!).

And I remember taking a drive past Pielet Brothers in the early 1970s, when a lot of F units were being cut up after trade-in to EMD, and being stunned to see three C&O GP30s sitting there.  They'd been in a wreck, and one of them had considerable fire damage as well.  What made it even worse for me was that one of the three was one of the first GP30s I'd ever seen (and heard), after months of hearing in Trains about who all was getting these amazing new locomotives.

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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Monday, January 15, 2007 7:24 PM

 

Looks like this locomotive is sitting on a Lionel layout. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by snagletooth on Monday, January 15, 2007 7:30 PM
 csxengineer98 wrote:

<>looks like it was cooked to well done in the crash too

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thats what happens when you stick a fork in a (techno)toaster
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Posted by corwinda on Monday, January 15, 2007 9:12 PM
Definitely a crispy critter.
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Posted by Railfan1 on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:18 AM
Ouch....Black Eye [B)]
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Posted by spokyone on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:26 AM
Good one! PZ
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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:48 AM
who forgot the marshmellows?thanks for sharing the pic.
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Posted by RR Redneck on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:45 AM

 BaltACD wrote:
Looks like it was wrecked and then was on fire.  The wreck damage itself would appear repairable.  The fire damage appears to have engulfed the entire engine and the heat from the fire has probably changed the heat treated properties of the metal to the extent that no one knows if any individual metal part is able to withstand the rigors of normal use, so in the intrests of safety the unit should be scrapped.

What I was thinkin lookin at this thing. Man, that diesel was cooked to well done.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:26 PM

When all that Diesel Fuel Burns in One Place, a Locomotive can really get Damaged.

 

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Posted by pedrop on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:40 PM

 BaltACD wrote:
Looks like it was wrecked and then was on fire.  The wreck damage itself would appear repairable.  The fire damage appears to have engulfed the entire engine and the heat from the fire has probably changed the heat treated properties of the metal to the extent that no one knows if any individual metal part is able to withstand the rigors of normal use, so in the intrests of safety the unit should be scrapped.

 

Few years ago the Ferronorte 9011 with tank cars in the state of Mato Grosso do Sul collided with another tank train. The locomotive and some tank cars burned totally, being retired. 
 
            The 9011 was stored fort wears in the GE's plant at Contagem, MG, waiting for a solution, but the decision was for scraping because the high temperature of the accident. 
 
            Because of this the 22 locomotives transferred to the Carajas Railroad were the 9001-9010 and 9012-9023 ones
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Here it is when just arrived in Brazil. 

 

 

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Posted by pedrop on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:49 PM

Was it in a wreck or something or do Brazilian units have a considerably shorter shelf life than Amercian units?

Gabe

Yes, it was an accident as I explained in my last replay here. Look it.

Here is a rear view of 9011 when it just arrievd in Brazil. It had a nice painting...

 

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Posted by Railfan1 on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:58 PM
It is always sad to see the before and after pictures of a wrecked unit. I have photos of CSX#7803 in Hamlet, N.C. and just over a month later it was destroyed in an accident.
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Posted by pedrop on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:04 PM

 Railfan1 wrote:
It is always sad to see the before and after pictures of a wrecked unit. I have photos of CSX#7803 in Hamlet, N.C. and just over a month later it was destroyed in an accident.

 

yes, it´s a sad thing. Here is another view of 9011 after fire... 

 

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Posted by SchemerBob on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:10 PM
 pedrop wrote:

Sorry, I wrote scarapped, but understand Scrapped. Here is more one picture of 9011 in its last moments.

 

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I wonder, is this a Dash 9-44CW or a Dash 8-40CW? It looks like those are Adirondack trucks. Too bad about the engine, though.

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Posted by pedrop on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:24 PM

I wonder, is this a Dash 9-44CW or a Dash 8-40CW? It looks like those are Adirondack trucks. Too bad about the engine, though.

Ferronorte 9011 was a C44-9W. In Brazil we have only standard cab dash 8 on EFVM, EFC and ALL (an ex- Conrail unit) 

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Posted by Datafever on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:31 PM

UP 9777 was involved in a wreck on 11 August 1999 at Clinton, Iowa. It was the lead unit on a doublestack intermodal train (IG02OA-11, Intermodal, Global 2 to Oakland) detouring over the I&M Rail Link due to a washed out bridge on UP at Calamus, Iowa (UP also operates about three trains over IMRL each day), and struck several cars left on the IMRL mainline by a BNSF road switcher. The crew were IMRL employees, and both were killed. Power consist was UP 9777 (leading), UP 9452, UP 9048, UP 3385; train statistics: 91 loads, 0 empties, 5,594 tons, 7,180 feet in length. One estimate of the damage to 9777 was in excess of $650,000.

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Posted by Datafever on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:37 PM

Here's another view of UP 9777

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=26999 

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Posted by Nataraj on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:13 PM
I can't see the pics of the dash waiting to be scrapped........ it shows a questionmark sign....  Can you post a direct link?
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Posted by Railfan1 on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:57 AM

Hey, I have seen that unit too (after being repaired). I have the number recorded in my book. That is one reason to keep up with the numbers you have seen.

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Posted by pedrop on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:22 PM

 Nataraj wrote:
I can't see the pics of the dash waiting to be scrapped........ it shows a questionmark sign....  Can you post a direct link?

 

Here they are:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C19179%5CFerronorte-9011-patio%20de%20Bernardo%20Monteiro-03-01-2007%20002.jpg

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C19179%5CFerronorte-9011-patio%20de%20Bernardo%20Monteiro-03-01-2007%20012.jpg

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C19179%5CFerronorte-9011-patio%20de%20Bernardo%20Monteiro-03-01-2007%20010.jpg


http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C19179%5CFerronorte-9011-patio%20de%20Bernardo%20Monteiro-03-01-2007%20017.jpg

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Posted by Datafever on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:23 PM
Pedrop, many times it does not work to link directly to the picture, as the hosting web site can be using software that changes the URL as their database gets re-indexed.  It might help to post the link to the page on which the picture is displayed, instead of posting the link to the picture itself.
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The death of a SD40-2
Posted by pedrop on Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:21 PM

 

About two year ago MRSL lost three locos in a wreck near my town. The train with 138 iron ore cars lost the brakes as it departures the mine and collided with a wall used to load iron ore at the botton of the hill. In the accident MRS lost two U23C and a SD40-2 and all iron ore cars. The engineer survives because he passes from the first to the second loco (sd40-2). The first and the last units (U23C) were completly destroyed as you can see here. 

 

Also the links to those guys who can not see the pictures here:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archiveEditThumbs.aspx?id=19179 

 

 

 

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Posted by pedrop on Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:23 PM

 

Here is another pictures of that wreck. Not hte GE units were completly destroyed. 

 

 

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Posted by pedrop on Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:25 PM

Here is one of the GE´s...

 

 

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