I take it that the rail route runs(3 r's) along side a highway? I inserted the 3r's after i reread the text looking for errors. My question: were there any witnesses to the accident? Was anyone on the highway injured?
Hi doghouse,
the accident happened after midnight. The road we see along the wall links a small town close the yard we sse in the pictures, but is used most by trucks carrying iron ore to load trains at the wall you see in the pictures. At that wall always have truck drivers and other employees all day and night, so I´m sure there were witnesses. Nobody on the road was injuried, in spite of the train cross it by a viaduct about 500 metes before the point where the train hit the wall. The enginner told the nearest station about his problem and the road was closed immediately. The engineers survives because he went to the second loco, the SD40-2. The firts one (u23C) hit the wall and dropped to the side and the full tank exploded. The third unit (another U23C) was completly destroyed by the iron ore cars. The middle unit, the SD40-2, was squeezed between the two GE´s and hit the wall with its rear and. That´s why the enginner survives.
The train lost the brakes because the engineers was alone that night (in fact, here in Brazil just one person controls the trains, from the small one to the huge EFVM locotrol of 320 cars). He drove the train to the mine at the top of a hill. Then, he moved the locos to the rear to start loading the cars. When he coupled the locos again to the train, he forgot to open the air valves, so the the locos couldn´t pressure the lines with air to the brakes. When the train was completley full of iron ore, he starts to go down hill and perceived the train had no brakes braques. He said the train reach more than 100 km per hour when hit the wall.
pedrop wrote: Here is one of the GE´s...
Here is one of the GE´s...
Here is another pictures of that wreck. Not hte GE units were completly destroyed.
About two year ago MRSL lost three locos in a wreck near my town. The train with 138 iron ore cars lost the brakes as it departures the mine and collided with a wall used to load iron ore at the botton of the hill. In the accident MRS lost two U23C and a SD40-2 and all iron ore cars. The engineer survives because he passes from the first to the second loco (sd40-2). The first and the last units (U23C) were completly destroyed as you can see here.
Also the links to those guys who can not see the pictures here:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archiveEditThumbs.aspx?id=19179
Nataraj wrote:I can't see the pics of the dash waiting to be scrapped........ it shows a questionmark sign.... Can you post a direct link?
Here they are:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C19179%5CFerronorte-9011-patio%20de%20Bernardo%20Monteiro-03-01-2007%20002.jpghttp://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C19179%5CFerronorte-9011-patio%20de%20Bernardo%20Monteiro-03-01-2007%20012.jpghttp://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C19179%5CFerronorte-9011-patio%20de%20Bernardo%20Monteiro-03-01-2007%20010.jpghttp://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C19179%5CFerronorte-9011-patio%20de%20Bernardo%20Monteiro-03-01-2007%20017.jpg
Hey, I have seen that unit too (after being repaired). I have the number recorded in my book. That is one reason to keep up with the numbers you have seen.
Here's another view of UP 9777
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=26999
UP 9777 was involved in a wreck on 11 August 1999 at Clinton, Iowa. It was the lead unit on a doublestack intermodal train (IG02OA-11, Intermodal, Global 2 to Oakland) detouring over the I&M Rail Link due to a washed out bridge on UP at Calamus, Iowa (UP also operates about three trains over IMRL each day), and struck several cars left on the IMRL mainline by a BNSF road switcher. The crew were IMRL employees, and both were killed. Power consist was UP 9777 (leading), UP 9452, UP 9048, UP 3385; train statistics: 91 loads, 0 empties, 5,594 tons, 7,180 feet in length. One estimate of the damage to 9777 was in excess of $650,000.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=27004
I wonder, is this a Dash 9-44CW or a Dash 8-40CW? It looks like those are Adirondack trucks. Too bad about the engine, though.
Ferronorte 9011 was a C44-9W. In Brazil we have only standard cab dash 8 on EFVM, EFC and ALL (an ex- Conrail unit)
pedrop wrote: Sorry, I wrote scarapped, but understand Scrapped. Here is more one picture of 9011 in its last moments. Pedro
Sorry, I wrote scarapped, but understand Scrapped. Here is more one picture of 9011 in its last moments.
Pedro
Railfan1 wrote:It is always sad to see the before and after pictures of a wrecked unit. I have photos of CSX#7803 in Hamlet, N.C. and just over a month later it was destroyed in an accident.
yes, it´s a sad thing. Here is another view of 9011 after fire...
Was it in a wreck or something or do Brazilian units have a considerably shorter shelf life than Amercian units?Gabe
Was it in a wreck or something or do Brazilian units have a considerably shorter shelf life than Amercian units?
Gabe
Yes, it was an accident as I explained in my last replay here. Look it.
Here is a rear view of 9011 when it just arrievd in Brazil. It had a nice painting...
pedro
BaltACD wrote:Looks like it was wrecked and then was on fire. The wreck damage itself would appear repairable. The fire damage appears to have engulfed the entire engine and the heat from the fire has probably changed the heat treated properties of the metal to the extent that no one knows if any individual metal part is able to withstand the rigors of normal use, so in the intrests of safety the unit should be scrapped.
Few years ago the Ferronorte 9011 with tank cars in the state of Mato Grosso do Sul collided with another tank train. The locomotive and some tank cars burned totally, being retired. The 9011 was stored fort wears in the GE's plant at Contagem, MG, waiting for a solution, but the decision was for scraping because the high temperature of the accident. Because of this the 22 locomotives transferred to the Carajas Railroad were the 9001-9010 and 9012-9023 ones.
Here it is when just arrived in Brazil.
When all that Diesel Fuel Burns in One Place, a Locomotive can really get Damaged.
What I was thinkin lookin at this thing. Man, that diesel was cooked to well done.
Lionel collector, stuck in an N scaler's modelling space.
Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").
csxengineer98 wrote:<>looks like it was cooked to well done in the crash toocsx engineer
<>looks like it was cooked to well done in the crash too
csx engineer
Looks like this locomotive is sitting on a Lionel layout.
I feel your pain, Pedro!
I don't think I've seen, or even heard, of one of the Dash-9s around here being scrapped, but I'm sure that some have been, due to wreck damage. But some of these Dash-9s are going on twelve years old (back in the 60s, twelve-year-old locomotives were considered trade-in fodder!).
And I remember taking a drive past Pielet Brothers in the early 1970s, when a lot of F units were being cut up after trade-in to EMD, and being stunned to see three C&O GP30s sitting there. They'd been in a wreck, and one of them had considerable fire damage as well. What made it even worse for me was that one of the three was one of the first GP30s I'd ever seen (and heard), after months of hearing in Trains about who all was getting these amazing new locomotives.
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Yes, it was a wreck while leading a soybean train 2 years ago.
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