marcimmeker wrote:Hi Pedro,Thanks for pointing me to this thread. Great pictures.Do you have a map of Brazilian railroads?Marc Immeker
Hi Pedro,
Thanks for pointing me to this thread. Great pictures.
Do you have a map of Brazilian railroads?
Marc Immeker
Here is a map of brazilian rail network. Note this map shows the 5 railroads that joined to form ALL rwy: Ferronorte, Ferroban (part of it), Ferropar, FSA and Novoeste.
Pedro
marcimmeker wrote:Hi Pedro,Thanks for pointing me to this thread. Great pictures.Do you have a map of Brazilian railroads?Do you have pictures of station buildings, yards and workshops too?What is the railroad situation in the north east? I can get relatively cheap tickets to that part (charter flight to the beach, you know) and it might be fun to do some railfanning.greetings,Marc Immeker
Do you have pictures of station buildings, yards and workshops too?
What is the railroad situation in the north east? I can get relatively cheap tickets to that part (charter flight to the beach, you know) and it might be fun to do some railfanning.
greetings,
Hi Marc Immeke,
yes a have photos of almost everything related to railroads in Brazil. Railfaning is my hobby for at least 27 years!
In the north east we have CFN and metropolitan trains of CBTU only, but if you like ALCO locos, there you will find the great RSD8 on CBTU fleet, as the ones I post in the "Alco in Brazil" thread right now.
If you have the chance to visit Sao Luis, in Maranhao statte, go to EFC shops. There you can see a good fleet of SD40-2, SD60M, SD70M, C36-7, C30-7, C44-9W and other locos. Also you can run a 900 km long rail travel through Amazon land, from São Luis to Paraopebas. EF Carajas is the most modern railroad in Brazil. In my "Rebuilt Units" thread you can see pictures of it.
In the north we have just three railroads:
1 - EFA - (Amapa rwy) at Amapa state. This is the only standard gauge railroad in Brazil and use just SW1200 and SW1500 locos, but I know they will buy more locos soon. There you can have a wonderful travel from Santana port to Serra do Navio hill, a 193 km long run through Amazon forest. That´s a wonderful travel. I was there in 1999 and want to come back soon.
2 - EFJ (Jari rwy) - is a broad gauge saw mill railroad that run 76 km long close to Jari river. The nearest city is Monte Dourado. It is a place reached only buy plane or ship through Amazon river.
3 - EFT (Trombetas rwy) - this is the most distant railroad in Brazil, located not so far from EFJ, that carry bauxite. The nearest city there is closed because serve only to the employees. If somebody wants to visit EFT need to contact them first.
Not so far from EFT there is a place called Fordlandia, where Henry Ford made a railroad in the past to carry rubber from Amazon forest. The railroad used a Shay loco, but today the line was gone. But if somebody wants to visit the small town it is a great place. All buildings are well preserved and they accep tourist there.
I have lots of maps of brazilian railroads and will add them here soon.
keep in touch
pedro
Some friends posing at the front plataform of BB40T-2 #4825...
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C3812%5C4825_gutierrez_setti_x_eldorado_19nov2005.JPG
Another picture of the same switch...
Today morning a got this picture of EFVM DDM45 passing by 628 km with an empty train. The pictures is good to show details on the dual gauge switches in the yard...
pedrop wrote: Datafever wrote:Do you have any close-ups of the pombinho? It looks interesting.I will get more pictures of them soom, because they do not exist in my town. I also like them a lot. it´s different piece to model in HO scale, for exemple.
Datafever wrote:Do you have any close-ups of the pombinho? It looks interesting.
I will get more pictures of them soom, because they do not exist in my town. I also like them a lot. it´s different piece to model in HO scale, for exemple.
Exactly! I had never even considered the idea of modeling dual-gauge before, but now that I've seen some of the pictures that you have posted, it is very enticing. I like it!
Keep up the excellent work.
is that a SD 45 with a shortened nose?
No, it´s a SD40T-2 rebuilt as a BB40T-2. The loco received long porches at front and rear to accept the BB+BB trucks.
oscaletrains wrote: edblysard wrote: Just to help Pedro out...by the way, that is a photo he sent me, so you can see what he is talking about. is that a SD 45 with a shortened nose?
edblysard wrote: Just to help Pedro out...by the way, that is a photo he sent me, so you can see what he is talking about.
Just to help Pedro out...by the way, that is a photo he sent me, so you can see what he is talking about.
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martin.knoepfel wrote:Great pictures. Thanks again for sharing them The dual-gauge-switches look quite complicated.Lots of parts you have to lubricate.
Great pictures. Thanks again for sharing them
The dual-gauge-switches look quite complicated.Lots of parts you have to lubricate.
Yes, the dual gauge tracks used in Brazil have some special parts like the ones called "pombinho" as shown here. The pombinho is used to change the rails of the meter gauge inside the broad. Note the narrow gauge uses the left track of broad gauge line and after pass by the pombinho changes to the rail on the right. The loco you see in the picture is an FCA narrow gauge BB40-2 and is aproaching the pombinho at Eldorado yard. Picture of my friend Carlos Marinho.
A narropw cut in the FCA mainline to soybean country. The BB40T-2 passes there very close to the walls
A close on the points...
Another dual gauge switch here in town...
...sorry, the link do not openned. Here is the photo...
Datafever wrote:If you get the opportunity, could you post some pictures of dual-gauge switches? I'd like to see how that maze of trackwork looks.
Here are some of them at Nova Granja yard...
...we also have gondolas with two couplers, like this FCA GFD class gondola. They use gondolas because the car must be very heavy to connect the locomotives of different gauge to the train. So the gondolas are full of old pieces of rails or full of stone ballast.
Some locomotives have dual gauge couplers, like SPA RSC-3. The broad gauge coupler is higher than the meter one (higher than standard gauge too) and is centered to the loco. The meter gauge coupler is located a bit to side.
One of the special gondolas used to switch cars on bolth gauges. We call them Maromba or Madrinha cars. Note it has one truck on meter line and the other at the broad...
Datafever wrote:Pedro, I'm not sure if you answered this before, but do you know how much trackage is dual gauge? And where would be the location(s) of most of that dual gauge track?
Hi Datafever,
we have dual gauge line in Sao Paulo state, from the location of Boa Vista Nova to Santos, where ALL line (meter gauge) connects to MRS (broad gauge). Some suburb lines in Sao Paulo city use dual gauge lines too. The ALL line from Pederneiras to Itapevi and Bauru is dual too. I do not know how long is the dual gauge system in Sao Paulo state, but I think is much more than here in Minas.
In the south, we have dual gauge at Uruguaiana yard, where ALL have meter and standard gauge. The standard gauge belongs to ALL network in Argentina. I also do not know how long is the dual gauge system in ALL network in the south.
Also we have dual gauge in northeast at EFC where its connect to CFN. I think it´s only at Sao Luiz yard.
In Rio de Janeiro we had dual gauge lines too, but they were removed some years ago.
Here in Minas Gerais we have dual gauge links Contagem to Sete Lagoas, and at Patrag yard. These section together have about 200 km long. The lines passes through Belo Horizonte city, the capital of Minas Gerais.
An interesting thing about dual gauge system is the fact the companies use to have 3 rails on flat lands and 4 rails on steep grades. The reason is the fact of broad gauge trains wast the rails much more than meter gauge ones. So, the companies have their own line in the steep grade sections to avoid argument among the companies. Close here, we have a section of dual gauge with 4 rails. The line belongs to EFVM but MRS also use it to reach PATRAG yard, to get steel produts at Acominas steel plant. So each company have it´s "own" rails in the same line. I will get a picture of this section to add here.
Hi guys,
I received this picture of Serra do Tigre line. Note the FCA train doing a "S" curve (the top of the "S" is at top right) It´s a wonderful line.
Here we see the small Houston locomotive that loaded the RSC3 onto the truck.
Here we see a Volvo front loader give a help to the truck to departure...the RSC3 traveled more than 3,000km onto the truck to reach the line of EFC...
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