"Grow UP??"

[CliqueofOne]

Has anyone else given any thought that the topic in question was closed because it was of an extremely sensitive subject. So sensitive in fact that to many it wasn't enough just ignore the subject but they wanted the whole topic canned. I agree that it got out of hand but why was it allowed to go to the extent that the topic was closed? What better way to eradicate a troublesome topic than let it degrade to the point of no return. Yes the moderator has the right to control these forums but to only allow opinions that he deems fit kind of makes this forum a one sided affair. And that doesn't sit right with this poster. Just my opinion. Gene B. Canadian National Railways.

[Mookie]

The topic wasn't the problem. Some of the rhetoric was.

But all has calmed down now and we are having a very civilized disagreement.

I may have missed something, but ....if the railroad is private, they should be allowed to name it anything they want. It may not set well with the Canadians and a lot of the US citizens - but who owns the name?

Someone clue me in ....I am open for a thinking adjustment, if needed.

Mookie

[dharmon]

It would appear that CN has joined the UP/North Korea/Iran axis of evil. See I told you we need to invade N. Korea now.

[Bergie]

Now that I'm back in the office, I just want to make some quick points.

First, to Kevin's "...contratry to Eriks point, it is perfectly human to have little agruments." I don't care if there are constructive arguements in this forum. In fact, I'd say 10% of the content within this forum is one person's opionion versus another's, and they usually lead to arguements. I'm fine with that, until the digress into name calling and personal attacks. That's what aggrevated me, and others, about the thread I deleted last week (and prompted my Grow Up thread). When I get phone calls and e-mails from other people telling me there's a problem in the forum, I try to act quickly. When the best I can do to act quickly is to address it four hours later (after I finally arrived at my destination) and then have to connect via a hotel dial-up connection, my level of patience for what I encounter after that is pretty low. Once I saw personal attacks, I deleted it. It wasn't because of the disagreements or arguments, it was the name-calling.

You know what my biggest fear is about these name-calling episodes? Someday, two users who have had it out in the past will cross paths and something unconscionable will happen. Bottom line, you never know when you're ticking off the wrong guy.

And finally, to mplsstreetrwy's point about Kalmbach doing a better job of policing what happens here. First let me say that we intend our forums to be a place where enthusiasts can come together and share their love of the hobby, pasttime, etc. We simply don't have the manpower to watch every single post. (The only solution to better control what is said here is more staffing. The only way to do that is to charge a fee for using the site. I doubt any of you want to go there.) And frankly, it wouldn't be much of a forum if everyone felt they couldn't speak their mind. Just think about what I let happen around here. Didn't like the October issue. You can say so here and I don't delete it. Where else can you find a consumer product that lets you state your opinion about the topic one the product's own Web site?

Everyone just needs to use common sense before posting. Before hitting the Post New Reply button, step away from you computer. Take a deep breath. If you think what you're posting might be inappropriate, it probably is.

Like I've said to a few of you in e-mails, it kills me to have to be the guy that has to come in and drop the hammer. But it's my job to do so, and I'll continue to do it in the future if anything inappropriate takes place. Hopefully you'll all get a chance to meet me someday so you'll find out first hand that I'm not the bad guy.

Thanks,
Erik

[CliqueofOne]

It isn't as simple as a private company renaming the railway I've spent 33+ years with. This is one of the many symptoms of a railway that is now dieing of a cancer that has started since the 'Canadian National Railways' became a foreign owned company. The employees are very badly treated to the point of criminal activity. Once the older workers are gone the younger ones will be the ones to carry on. Fortunately the ones on the Signal Department are well educated.They have previous experience in other jobs become joining the department. They will not put up with the garbage that the older workers in most cases do. They got the smarts and H.H. knows it. And this bothers him. He knows or cares little of the department but he does realise that we do have the power to keep those trains running. He has shown nothing but contempt for not only the Signal Department but for every Canadian on the CNR. It really hurt when last falls issue of Trains magazine wrote such a glowing report on H.H. and the CNR while completely ignoring the ones who actually do the work. Any fool can cut employees along with tracks and allow deferred maintenance and show a profit. But that will go on for only so long. On the inside looking out. Gene B.

[Anonymous]

It appears my spelling becomes either worse, or more confrintational every day...I didn't know it was that bad! And apparently it takes some people 2 to 3 times to actually understand what i am really saying.. I really didn't know it WAS that bad, So, instead of being my usual self and saying my most common phrase "too bad" There must be a solution to this problem.

And i will find it, i'm glad someone pointed out t that this could be one of the major argument insentives, I should defenately consider improving then!

So, i'll take some extra time to edit my posts.

Kevin

Sorry, i really didn't know my English sucked to such an extent.

[JoeKoh]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

It appears my spelling becomes either worse, or more confrintational every day...I didn't know it was that bad! And apparently it takes some people 2 to 3 times to actually understand what i am really saying.. I really didn't know it WAS that bad, So, instead of being my usual self and saying my most common phrase "too bad" There must be a solution to this problem.

And i will find it, i'm glad someone pointed out t that this could be one of the major argument insentives, I should defenately consider improving then!

So, i'll take some extra time to edit my posts.

Kevin

Sorry, i really didn't know my English sucked to such an extent.

It would be like me hitting lefthanded.I can do it its just more difficult.Glad you stayed
stay safe[:D]
Joe

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CliqueofOne

It isn't as simple as a private company renaming the railway I've spent 33+ years with. This is one of the many symptoms of a railway that is now dieing of a cancer that has started since the 'Canadian National Railways' became a foreign owned company. The employees are very badly treated to the point of criminal activity. Once the older workers are gone the younger ones will be the ones to carry on. Fortunately the ones on the Signal Department are well educated.They have previous experience in other jobs become joining the department. They will not put up with the garbage that the older workers in most cases do. They got the smarts and H.H. knows it. And this bothers him. He knows or cares little of the department but he does realise that we do have the power to keep those trains running. He has shown nothing but contempt for not only the Signal Department but for every Canadian on the CNR. It really hurt when last falls issue of Trains magazine wrote such a glowing report on H.H. and the CNR while completely ignoring the ones who actually do the work. Any fool can cut employees along with tracks and allow deferred maintenance and show a profit. But that will go on for only so long. On the inside looking out. Gene B.

Gene - I am sorry I am not as up to speed as I should be - I knew there was some things going on up North - but just read past it, I guess. Didn't CN merge with WC? So that brings them more into the US. Am I right so far?

So is CN now a US company residing in Canada?

I DO understand the management policy - only too well. If that is the case, this will come to no good end, but only after years of suffering under the regime. And by then, the infrastructure will have been destroyed and there won't be much left. That is plain stupidity...you can't run something to death without repair/replace and good employees and expect it to remain competitive.

Unfortunately it is going exactly that way in too many industries in this day and age!

Jen

[traingeek087]

What's up with him, why's he so mad?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by traingeek087

What's up with him, why's he so mad?

Whos him?

And if I'm Him, Yes i was Fairly..... well, distrought After recieveing a rather unnescesary repremand from the Chief.

But.. that was.. 1...2...3...4..5.... 5+ months ago, And I had forgotten all about what i was even upset about.

So, i'll try and forget again.

[Anonymous]

He's just trying to get more posts, thats all...nothing wrong with that.

[Bergie]

I had forgotten about this too. Sorry I was cranky, Kev.

I've locked this so we can all forget about it.

Erik