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Posted by Chris30 on Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:29 AM

H. Roger Grant... The Northwestern, The Corn Belt (CGW), etc

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 12, 2006 2:18 AM

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Several come to mind:

Richard Saunders wrote two excellent books on the merger movements from 1900 thru current.  I know one is entitled Merging Lines, but am unsure of the second.  Both are excellent reviews of the current railroad route structure.
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The other is ...... Main Lines: Rebirth of the North American Railroads, 1970-2002

 

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Posted by Limitedclear on Sunday, August 13, 2006 6:56 PM

All About Railroading is now available in a Second Edition from Simmons Boardman Books.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:49 PM

When it comes to freight cars, I have plenty of good books to recommend.  If there is anything available in print by Eric A. Neubauer, snap it up--always fastidiously detailed and factual.  He wrote good summaries of the ACF Center Flow covered hoppers, General American Airslide cars (both fairly dated now, unfortunately), and carbon-black covered hoppers of all builders.  The Society of Freight Car Historians has published a number of freight car roster-type books in the past.  Whether I'd recommend them for anyone's personal library would depend on what you're interested in--if the title appeals to you, get it!

If cabooses are your thing, grab any book by "Mr. Caboose", Dwight Jones.  He's written volumes on B&O cabooses that have left no stone unturned in their research.  There are also books by Dwight on C&O's steel cabooses, Western Maryland cars, and--coming up shortly--cabooses of the DT&I.

Some of the greatest books never published are a trilogy of publications on C&O freight equipment, from 1937 to 1965.  The first volume, on hopper cars, was published and is now out of print.  Two more books cover the remainder of the C&O's fleet--which, during some of this period, was the third-largest railroad-owned freight car roster in the country, behind PRR and NYC!  If you're interested, urge the C&O Historical Society to put them out--the work is pretty well completed.  The writer has become a bit of a freight car researcher in his own right, and the editor has a fair reputation in these circles as well Wink [;)].

Eric, I was given the first edition of the PFE book, and think it's great!  Second edition is supposed to be even better, I've been told.

 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:42 PM
     I just found a pristine copy of Don Ball,Jr.'s classic America's Colorful Railroads,a Pictorial History of the Rail's Transition from Steam to Diesel This goes with the old, torn up copy I already have.  This book thing, it's a sickness-no?Wink [;)]

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Posted by DSchmitt on Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:50 PM

 

When the Railroad Leaves Town  (2 volumns - Western US and Eastern US)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1931112142/sr=1-1/qid=1156740477/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5425401-0955126?ie=UTF8&s=books

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0943549981/ref=pd_bxgy_img_b/104-5425401-0955126?ie=UTF8

In addition to telling what happened to the communities after railroad abandonment, These books give a briee history of the lines, why they were built and insight into why they were abandoned.

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Posted by rvos1979 on Monday, August 28, 2006 12:47 AM

I'll add a few:

Nothing Like it in the World, by Stephen E. Ambrose.  The story of building the first transcontinental railroad

Landmarks on the Iron Road, by William D Middleton.  Great achievements in railroad engineering.

Rio Grande Narrow Gauge, by John Norwood.  Story of the Denver and Rio Grande.

Railway Disasters of the World, by Peter Semmens.  Accounts of most major train accidents from the 20th century, also provides some insight as to how different railways around the world operated.

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Posted by PNWRMNM on Monday, August 28, 2006 2:59 AM

I would not recommend "Nothing Like It".  Is basically a rehash of parts of the story and strongly biased towards Dodge and the UP. 

I would recommend "Empire Express", I can not remember the author and am not at home so can not cite it.  Was published farly recently so you should be able to get it new or used at Amazon or Borders.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 28, 2006 8:00 AM

A treasure I found in an antique bookstore was a book by Otto Kuehler entitled "My Iron Journey".  It's autobiographical, and since Kuehler was an artist (as well as industrial designer), he lavishly illustrated the book.  If you can find it, the funniest part in my mind was his description of stealing a French locomotive (he was a German soldier in the first World War) whilst drunk, and accidentally running the poor old steamer into hostile fire.  Watch out, Rommel... Kuehler added new meaning to the term "reconnaiscance"!

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Posted by bobwilcox on Monday, August 28, 2006 10:43 AM
 PNWRMNM wrote:

I would not recommend "Nothing Like It".  Is basically a rehash of parts of the story and strongly biased towards Dodge and the UP. 

I would recommend "Empire Express", I can not remember the author and am not at home so can not cite it.  Was published farly recently so you should be able to get it new or used at Amazon or Borders.

 

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I agree with you concerning Ambrose's "Nothing Like It".  He cranked out a lot of books in his later years and it shows in the quality of this one.  Empire Express is a good book with some fresh insight to the oft told tale of the UP/CP's construction.  The citation is Bain, David Haward; Empire Express, Building the First Transcontinental Railroad; Viking, 1999 (ISBN 0-670-80889-X) 

 

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Posted by rkbufkin on Monday, August 28, 2006 1:55 PM
Firing on the Pennsy goes hand and hand with Set Up Running.  A short but interesting read.
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Posted by tree68 on Monday, August 28, 2006 3:31 PM

On a regional note (and perhaps of interest to those who favor logging roads):

Fairy Tale Railroad, Henry Harter - about William Seward Webb's Mohawk and Malone through the central Adirondacks.

Rails in the North Woods, Allen-Gove-Maloney-Palmer, about logging and other railroads in the western Adirondacks with some information about Pennsylvania.

Where Did the Tracks Go in the Western Adirondacks, Michael Kudish.  Third edition of his outstanding books about railroads in the Adirondacks.   The second ran 500 pages, this would have been well over 700, so it was broken up into three separate volumes - Western, Central (including Webb's railroad, and due out last spring, but it won't be out until next? spring), Eastern (date TBA), plus the addition of a fourth volume about the railroads of the Catskills.

You'll have to search for them yourself, although I do know that all three are in print now.

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Posted by Limitedclear on Sunday, September 3, 2006 1:08 PM

Mike Bednar's outstanding books about the Lehigh Valley Railroad and railroading in Northeast Pennsylvania are also on my list.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:47 PM

     I'm 3/4 done with The Fallen Colossus, about the formation and failure of the Penn Central.  Today I got my copy of The Men Who Loved Trains.Big Smile [:D]

     I'll have to find a ggod book on railroading's famous personalities.  Robert Young semed to be a real piece of work.  Alfred Pearlman and Stuart Saunders have always been interesting to read about.

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Posted by MP173 on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:50 PM
Murphy:

Who is the author of Fallen Colossus?  Sounds like a great subject.  Years ago I read Wreck of the Penn Central.  You will enjoy Men Who Loved Trains.

Has anyone read Harry Bruce's privately published book?  I would like to get that.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, September 22, 2006 8:41 PM

     As promised- a *book report* for Ed/MP173:  The Fallen Colossus by Robert Sobel.(1977)

     This is a book about about the lead-up, formation, and ultimate failure of the Penn Central.  It gives a historical background of NYC and PRR, and the eastern railroad scene that lead up to collapse of PC.  Good explanations are given for the "why it happened", and "why it was bound to happen", not just simply "what happened".  Fortuneately, there was a little more depth into the personalities of the major players than is usually given on this subject.  I know Ed will like this book, as it goes into some detail on the financial aspects of what was going on behind the scenes leading up to the bankruptsy.  The financial part is written so that even I understand it-a bonus.  The most interesting part to me, was that it was written in 1977, but a lot of the goings-on in the PC finances made me think of Enron, and the dot-com collapse.  I think if someone wrote another chapter, with  30 more years of eastern  railway history behind us, the understanding and the story would be even better!  I've read The Wreck of the Penn Central a couple of times.  In comparison, it almost seems like the magazine version of the whole story.  345 pages, and not a sinle photographDead [xx(].  This was a book worth reading, even for someone who never saw a PRR,NYC,PC, or even a CR train in his life.

 

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Posted by MP173 on Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:07 AM
Murph:

The Men Who Loved Trains is the logical next book for you to read.  It dovetails nicely into the historical perspective of The Fallen...

Also, you should consider the Richard Saunders volumes on mergers in the railroads.  Excellent discussions, a bit dry at times, but extremely informative.  I got both from the local library, I should just open the wallet and add to my library.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:38 AM

 MP173 wrote:
Murph:

The Men Who Loved Trains is the logical next book for you to read.  It dovetails nicely into the historical perspective of The Fallen...

Also, you should consider the Richard Saunders volumes on mergers in the railroads.  Excellent discussions, a bit dry at times, but extremely informative.  I got both from the local library, I should just open the wallet and add to my library.

ed

     Ed-I've read both of the Richard Saunders books.  I agree with your description of them.  Last night, I read most of the first chapter of The Men Who Loved Trains.  It's interesting, and I like the author's style.

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Posted by beaulieu on Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:57 PM
My turn-  For fans of the the B&O consider the following books from Barnard, Roberts Publishing

Impossible Challenge II by Herbert H. Harwood Jr.

covers the complete history of the B&O between Baltimore and Harper's Ferry from 1827 to the 1990's very detail covers all line changes, operations, and early construction, tons of photos and maps.

East End: B&O's Neck of the Bottle by Charles S. Roberts
covers the B&O from Washington DC to Cumberland, MD again lots of insight covers line relocations including the Magnolia Cutoff, Operations, etc. Lots of photos and maps.

West End by Charles S. Roberts covers the B&O from Cumberland to Grafton, VA over four very difficult mountain grades.

Sand Patch by Charles S. Roberts covers the B&O from Cumberland to Pittsburgh


And for PRR fans the same company also produced a series covering the Pennsy from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh, to Washington, and to New York. Triumph I, II, III, etc.

I have every book in both series, which set me back some serious money but I feel they were worth it, tons of detail.

For you other guys see if you can find these books by Interlibrary loan.
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Posted by Limitedclear on Friday, March 30, 2007 9:50 PM

Thought I'd restart this thread. Any new book recommendations?

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Posted by jeaton on Friday, March 30, 2007 10:16 PM
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Thought I'd restart this thread. Any new book recommendations?

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Posted by Limitedclear on Friday, March 30, 2007 10:19 PM
 jeaton wrote:
 Limitedclear wrote:

Thought I'd restart this thread. Any new book recommendations?

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No time. Looking ahead to my next plane trip. As to taxes, I don't worry about it as I generally get a refund. After all, I'm in the railroad business...

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Posted by jgiblin on Friday, March 30, 2007 10:24 PM

Several that we found useful in our March article would be "To Hell in a Day Coach", by Peter Lyon, Lippincott 1968, which provides a wonderful overview of the rail industry up to about the publication date; plus Dave DeBoer's book "Piggyback and Containers".  Also it goes without saying that two of the best recent industry overviews have been Rich Saunders' "Merging Lines" and "Main Lines", and I'm not just saying that because some of my previous writings were quoted in both.

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Posted by SFbrkmn on Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:22 PM
For steam fans, I would suggest any Lloyd Stagner book. I really liked his writing "Steam Final In Kansas" which covered the final yrs of Mopac steam in the wheat state. He has also written on the final yrs of Rock Island, Santa Fe, Frisco and UP steam operations plus a history of the Midland Valley. These were through South Platte Press. Several Morning Sun Books are also the result of his work that cover the Santa Fe, Rock Island, Illinois Central, Chicago Great Wstrn and UP. Lloyd is long retired from ATSF who resides in KS and is a walking textbook on rr history.
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Posted by al-in-chgo on Saturday, March 31, 2007 7:23 PM

 

Literarily speaking, this may be "coals to Newcastle," but after I read The Wreck of the Penn Central and The Men Who Loved Trains, I tackled Richard Saunders, Jr.'s, Merging Lines (1900-1970) and its historical sequel, Main Lines (1970-2002).  Both volumes are wonderfully written and mesh well; in fact, those who first read Merging Lines can skip all of Chapter One of Main LinesSaunders has created a nice strong narrative based on the assumption that the evolution of American railroads from the turn of the last century 'til 2002 is best organized and analyzed according to corporate RR mergers.  And it works; or at least IMHO it does.  Saunders is the kind of writer who makes dull stuff compelling -- not everything is a tale or corporate skullduggery or bios of heroic individuals -- and I liked it all.  Of course, the author can't spend as much time on the Penn Central demise as The Wreck of the Penn Central, Fallen Colossus or No Way to Run a Railroadbut even so I learned a lot about that sad chapter of American railroading history.  Time-consuming, but not particularly difficult (he doesn't dwell on corporate history any more than he has to), and IMHO well worth the trouble.  -  a.s. 

 

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