James, Brisbane Australia
Modelling AT&SF in the 90s
Ah, er--
No thanks.
I was hoping that the livery would be almost identical to that of the last CNW AC4400CW's.
G** help us all when UP tries to do a Heritage livery based on the Southern Pacific livery....
I'm glad to see that UP is taking the time to do this for the general public. I think all the "Heritage Units" have been awesome. I just think that they don't have to do this, but they do.
I have to vote that it's pretty darn good.. Just wished CSX could do the same. I would love to see what could be done with the L&N on one. Would even like to see what they could do with the Chessie System colors. NS has one out there with the Southern colors.
Brian (KY)
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I'm not sure if I like it... I think that I want to see it at speed in person before I pass any final judgement. Is the other side painted the same? I like the fact that UP is doing this heritage series. What no Central Pacific unit??
With the CNW unit I really like the "Employee Owned" bar and ball logo on the front (although it's where I requested the bell be placed). I thought that was a very nice touch. The contridiction is that the heritage series units tend to be painted in a very bold way. The Northwestern kept the paint schemes simple. A simple lightning stripe on a few Dash 9's was about as bold as the Northwestern got with their diesel engines. I'm surprised that the paint scheme didn't incorporate some of the bolder schemes used on the Northwestern stream-lined steam engines of the 1940's. Also, unless I;m not seeing it, it would have been a nice touch to add the Route of the 400 logo somewhere. (Maybe the UP wanted to keep it freight only.)
CC
I think it looks very good, and compliments the other units in the series. Unlike most here, I like what UP is doing with these heritage units. Sure, the paint isn't the same as what the original roads used, but where's the fun in that? This way, UP proudly shows support for the roads which are now a part of the UP system.
I ditto the above remark that the SP heritage unit should be done in the Black Widow.
Why do you all freak out about how it looks like??? Its a locomotive ... they all look good in fresh paint ... especially with more than two colours. I love seeing colourful unit consists but I could give a crap about how it is all put together. Shut up, don't whine and be grateful that UP is even wasting their money on painting units of railroads they don't even care about anymore.
So when the SP unit comes out ... and are they doing anymore units? ... cause there are more railorads under the UP name ... don't whine and be happy you have these heritage units at all.
10000 feet and no dynamics? Today is going to be a good day ...
Your friendly neighborhood CNW fan.
Dan
traisessive1 wrote: Shut up, don't whine and be grateful that UP is even wasting their money on painting units of railroads they don't even care about anymore.... don't whine and be happy you have these heritage units at all.
Shut up, don't whine and be grateful that UP is even wasting their money on painting units of railroads they don't even care about anymore.... don't whine and be happy you have these heritage units at all.
Why do people think that the UP is doing this for railfans or former employees of the railroads? UP is doing this only for trademark reasons, so if I decide to buy a model I have to pay more for the CNW version than I would say an IC verson. It is all just a part of greed on the UP.
Bert
An "expensive model collector"
It would never happen those anti EMD beaver lovers lol. It would be a ES44AC!! Ha ... I would like to see a UP Central Pacific unit and all the other little railroads out there that they engorged.
n012944 wrote: traisessive1 wrote: Shut up, don't whine and be grateful that UP is even wasting their money on painting units of railroads they don't even care about anymore.... don't whine and be happy you have these heritage units at all. Why do people think that the UP is doing this for railfans or former employees of the railroads? UP is doing this only for trademark reasons, so if I decide to buy a model I have to pay more for the CNW version than I would say an IC verson. It is all just a part of greed on the UP. Bert
solzrules wrote:UP should be commended for trying to maintain their heritage, no matter what money the are going to make off it from models and so on (you can paint your own you know).
broncoman wrote: n012944 wrote: traisessive1 wrote: Shut up, don't whine and be grateful that UP is even wasting their money on painting units of railroads they don't even care about anymore.... don't whine and be happy you have these heritage units at all. Why do people think that the UP is doing this for railfans or former employees of the railroads? UP is doing this only for trademark reasons, so if I decide to buy a model I have to pay more for the CNW version than I would say an IC verson. It is all just a part of greed on the UP. Bert While there is a lot of truth to the licensing thing, UP could have accomplished that by leaving a unit from each line just patched with a original lines' logo. They chose to spend money on a designer (wether or not we think that they were worth it) and the money to custom paint a unit in something other than the off the shelf UP paint that they buy in bulk and probably get a huge break in price on. How many companies in this day choose to spend money like that? I haven't seen UPS doing a heritage Overnight Truck lines paint scheme on a rig nor probably will we in the future.
solzrules wrote:Saw the picture and I think it looks great. UP should be commended for trying to maintain their heritage, no matter what money the are going to make off it from models and so on (you can paint your own you know). Not many other railroads are doing this, right? Now if only we could convince Canadian Pacific to do a Milwaukee Road SD70Ace!!!
Not many other railroads are charging a trademark fee either. Its greed, but at least they sugar coated it for you.
uspscsx wrote: solzrules wrote:UP should be commended for trying to maintain their heritage, no matter what money the are going to make off it from models and so on (you can paint your own you know).I'm glad you think painting a fleet of HO Scale locomotives is easy. I'm also glad you have the spare time and cash to do so. I don't. Nor do many other modelers. Oh, by the way, I'd love to see some of your work...Matt
Actually, you could save the licensing fee to Union Pacific if you bought an undecorated model and painted it yourself. Just a thought, no need to get huffy.
I am also still perfecting the craft of modeling these things, so I will not embarass myself by placing pictures of that stuff up here (this being the TRAINS forum and not the Model Railroader forum).
Just a thought.
solzrules wrote: uspscsx wrote: solzrules wrote:UP should be commended for trying to maintain their heritage, no matter what money the are going to make off it from models and so on (you can paint your own you know).I'm glad you think painting a fleet of HO Scale locomotives is easy. I'm also glad you have the spare time and cash to do so. I don't. Nor do many other modelers. Oh, by the way, I'd love to see some of your work...Matt Actually, you could save the licensing fee to Union Pacific if you bought an undecorated model and painted it yourself. Just a thought, no need to get huffy. I am also still perfecting the craft of modeling these things, so I will not embarass myself by placing pictures of that stuff up here (this being the TRAINS forum and not the Model Railroader forum). Just a thought.
How long before they put a fee on decals?
The eggaterated graphic scheme works very well for the Chicago & North Western Scheme. It is great that the Ball & Bar Logo is as large as possible. We can now see the logo from a long distance.
They used a Glossy Deep Green, which is appropriate. Some of the scale models of CNW Locomotives have had a less accurate, much darker green applied. The Union Pacific Licensing Watchers have to crack down on people using the wrong colors for Chicago & North Western replicas. With this unit they can prove their case in court.
Somebody has to get some dark night flash photos so that the retroreflective decals can be seen glowing in the light of the flash.
I wonder if this scheme was as difficult to paint as the previous 4 Union Paciifc Heritage SD70ACe units.
Andrew
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The Heritage Paint Schemes of Small Railroads could be applied to the new Yard Switcher Locomotives that the Union Pacific has ordered for 2006 and 2007.
Bert,
Decals are part of the Union Pacific Licencing Program. Check out the licencing program at www.up.com
So, in the case of the Minneapolis & St. Louis, which RS1 scheme should we hope for?
greetings,
Marc Immeker
Well, I finally got a look at it and have mixed feelings. I'm glad they painted it in the spirit of CNW, but I don't understand why they added the silver stripes. No CNW motive power ever carried silver stripes that I can recall.
As for the large emblem on the side, I think they would have been better to use the space for "Route of the 400" or "Route of the Steamliners" than the anime-like enlarged logo.
Just my thoughts. Thanks anyway U.P.
AGREED!
Now,I think this SD70 does the CNW NO justice. Why did they have to surround the CNW logo w/ gray and put those gray stripes on it?
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