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SSW expantion - What might have been???

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:23 PM
Me and Jhhtrainsplanes talk about the UP/SP/SSW merger today and If the UP continued to run the SSW it would be able to merg ,with lets say Conrail the SSW would go from St. Luey to New York or Virgina and probaly 10 or 15 years down the road the UP then would merg the SSW giving us SSW fans 20 more years or so with the good ol' Cotton Belt.

If Conrail did merg with the SSW here would be the name:

SSW+CR = SLCR , CRSW , or Contton Rail Belt ???[:p]
THANK GOD THEY DIDN'T. SSW really dodged a bulet. LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:23 PM
Me and Jhhtrainsplanes talk about the UP/SP/SSW merger today and If the UP continued to run the SSW it would be able to merg ,with lets say Conrail the SSW would go from St. Luey to New York or Virgina and probaly 10 or 15 years down the road the UP then would merg the SSW giving us SSW fans 20 more years or so with the good ol' Cotton Belt.

If Conrail did merg with the SSW here would be the name:

SSW+CR = SLCR , CRSW , or Contton Rail Belt ???[:p]
THANK GOD THEY DIDN'T. SSW really dodged a bulet. LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:37 PM
How about St. Louis Southwestern & Eastern or St. Louis Southwestern & Atlantic or St. Louis Southwestern & New York Eastern or ... not as easy as it might seem.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:37 PM
How about St. Louis Southwestern & Eastern or St. Louis Southwestern & Atlantic or St. Louis Southwestern & New York Eastern or ... not as easy as it might seem.
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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:40 PM
A part of the fun of this topic is to see SP/SSP build a trailer/ container facility on the SW corner of BRC Clearing yard. Then I began to see SP/SSP units in Chicago, including Tunnel Motors & SD9's. I'm quite sure they came up the old Alton line from St Louis. It would be cool to think the busy GM&O trains on the Chicago-St Louis corridor could have been in Daylight colors.
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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:40 PM
A part of the fun of this topic is to see SP/SSP build a trailer/ container facility on the SW corner of BRC Clearing yard. Then I began to see SP/SSP units in Chicago, including Tunnel Motors & SD9's. I'm quite sure they came up the old Alton line from St Louis. It would be cool to think the busy GM&O trains on the Chicago-St Louis corridor could have been in Daylight colors.
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Posted by AltonFan on Saturday, September 20, 2003 11:50 AM
QUOTE: As for mergers, the SSW was partly owned by a religious order and the articles of incorporation required their consent to anything to do with a consolidation.

Do you know which order?

QUOTE: It would be cool to think the busy GM&O trains on the Chicago-St Louis corridor could have been in Daylight colors.

Would have been cooler in Alton colors...

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Posted by SSW9389 on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:17 PM
In Fred Frailey's Blue Streak Merchandise there are a few paragraphs on a proposed merger between Cotton Belt and the Chicago & Eastern Illinois in 1959. The merger never happened because the powers that be in San Francisco did not want to confront other railroads over interchange rights in St. Louis and in Chicago.

One of the reasons Cotton Belt lasted as long as it did in the modern era was because it had a better credit rating than Southern Pacific. That is why so many Cotton Belt locomotives and freight cars existed beyond the needs of the Cotton Belt.
COTTON BELT: Runs like a Blue Streak!
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Posted by SSW9389 on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:17 PM
In Fred Frailey's Blue Streak Merchandise there are a few paragraphs on a proposed merger between Cotton Belt and the Chicago & Eastern Illinois in 1959. The merger never happened because the powers that be in San Francisco did not want to confront other railroads over interchange rights in St. Louis and in Chicago.

One of the reasons Cotton Belt lasted as long as it did in the modern era was because it had a better credit rating than Southern Pacific. That is why so many Cotton Belt locomotives and freight cars existed beyond the needs of the Cotton Belt.
COTTON BELT: Runs like a Blue Streak!

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