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Posted by Lord Atmo on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:25 PM
well 8701 went to JEnks shop a few months ago and that was when we were all worried that it would emerge in armour yellow. but they instead touched up its CNW paint. i think maybe they painted the roof green again when they did that.

and i'm starting to think foul play was involved in the patching of 8575. why would hinkle not patch the hood numbers if the locomotive was scheduled to be patched?

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Posted by Trailryder on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:18 PM

After watching this thread for a week or so I have been inspired to start a new photo gallery showcasing the Remnants of the Chicago & Northwestern System.

In this gallery you will find bridges, buildings and those pieces of equipment that have managed to retain some form of their Chicago and Northwestern identity.

All of the photos have been taken since May 2005, eventually i will enter the dates and  locations

Your comments are appreciated, as I am no Expert

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:19 PM
Nice photos!  Can you PM me and tell me where the GP-7 is?  That brings back some awesome memories!  I love the MOW pictures too...I've never seen any MOW with CNW on them.  May I save some of those for my modeling purposes?  I'm doing CNW as though they bought UP in HO gauge.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:57 PM
you are? are you patching UP locomotives?

oh man. i might end up missing UP and hating CNW if that happened. ARRRGH!

well the point is i miss CNW. but yeah show us the HO stuff when you have it complete

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:45 PM
 Lord Atmo wrote:
you are? are you patching UP locomotives?

oh man. i might end up missing UP and hating CNW if that happened. ARRRGH!

well the point is i miss CNW. but yeah show us the HO stuff when you have it complete

Yes I am doing this as though CNW bought UP.  I have already purchased a "Centennial" diesel in full UP livery that'll be the first repaint.  I have two -9's, and a -8 (and I know you LOVE them) spartan cab that will be patched.  Ball and Bar on green background under the cab window....should be fun!  I'll post pics when I have them.

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Posted by nordique72 on Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:35 PM
The CNW GP7 4120 on Trailryder's webpage is at a grain elevator in Seward, IL (on the CN's ex-IC Chicago-Dubuque main line)
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Posted by Lord Atmo on Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:46 PM
 CNW 6000 wrote:
 Lord Atmo wrote:
you are? are you patching UP locomotives?

oh man. i might end up missing UP and hating CNW if that happened. ARRRGH!

well the point is i miss CNW. but yeah show us the HO stuff when you have it complete

Yes I am doing this as though CNW bought UP.  I have already purchased a "Centennial" diesel in full UP livery that'll be the first repaint.  I have two -9's, and a -8 (and I know you LOVE them) spartan cab that will be patched.  Ball and Bar on green background under the cab window....should be fun!  I'll post pics when I have them.


now now now. i may say i like spartan cabs and nothing else, but the fact is i like all locomotives, just some more than others. widecabs and spartan cabs are both nice. "ugly" was a step too far on my part and i apologize. i'm a fan of variety and was just mad that all that remains of CNW is widecabs. but i DO like them as well. i find it is not easy to hate any kind of train (aside from green goats. eeewww) and i like when  a GE widecab shows up in Altoona. i dont see them often. ok actually the widecabs i stone hate are SD60Ms. but that's probably it. no that IS it. but enough of my incoherant ramblings

are you patching any of the UP stuff? that should be interesting to see. i cant wait to see the pictures

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Posted by chicagorails on Friday, July 21, 2006 6:47 AM
 saw the the cnw "ace" rolling thru rochelle yesterday west at 1130am. pulling a mix frt.  that engine needs to be doing justice in respect of cnw, let her pull a high life porky piggy or stack, not a lowly  dirty graffiti,marked train.
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Posted by railfanespee4449 on Friday, July 21, 2006 10:12 AM

I think it's a DASH-9- look at the trucks, but I'm not sure

I've seen a lot of patched CNW stuff recently- check this stuff out.

Call me crazy, but I LIKE Zito yellow. RAILFANESPEE4449
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Posted by Chris30 on Friday, July 21, 2006 10:46 AM

Picture from the Lord... Atmo

Ok, I must not be very familiar with those remote devices. Is there really a button on the belt pack for rollover and play dead??? Good boy!

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Friday, July 21, 2006 11:21 AM
nah. remotes are just job-eating horrid machines...

also those patched units in the pictures, at least the first one, is an AC4400CW. you can tell because the walkway on the conductor's side is really long

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Friday, July 21, 2006 7:24 PM
also i dont know if any other units had OLS or not but i'm fairly confident that C44ACs were NOT the only ones

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Posted by Chris30 on Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:08 AM

Well, the remotes might be "job-eating horrid machines", but looking at your picture I would have to say a posistion just opened up.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:00 PM
well i hope the RCOs will stop being used and engineers will be able to keep their jobs. i like how CNW never used these. ah they were such a great road!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:05 PM
I thought that rco's are supposed to be safer, but I guess anything can happen.  I also miss the CNW colors. UP yellow is kind of boring.
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Posted by n012944 on Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:16 PM

 Lord Atmo wrote:
well i hope the RCOs will stop being used and engineers will be able to keep their jobs. i like how CNW never used these. ah they were such a great road!

 

The only reason the CNW never used remotes was that it was taken over by the UP before it got the chance.

 

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:02 PM
 Michael27 wrote:
I thought that rco's are supposed to be safer, but I guess anything can happen.  I also miss the CNW colors. UP yellow is kind of boring.


yeah. i dont think armour yellow looks bad, but it's boring now. too much of it. that was the word i'm looking for. and now with the FRA changes, there's even MORE yellow on them. i need a break from UP. i'm headed to a CN line soon...

oh CNW... :(

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, July 24, 2006 10:00 AM
BUMP!

CNW may have died, but i wont let this thread die too. i was in altoona yesterday morning and got an up close and personal view of 2 UP SD40-2s. their numbers, UP 3017 and UP 2976. or as i call them by their real names, CNW 6836 and CNW 6828. their bells were sadly removed...

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Posted by nordique72 on Monday, July 24, 2006 2:35 PM
When the CNW switched back to the old yellow they went kind of hog wild with painting units with the Operation Lifesaver decals- various random units were painted in the MP15DCs, GP38-2s, SD40-2s as well as one SD50, one SD60, one C44-9W and the entire series of AC4400s. The only ones left running around with their OLS decals that I know of anymore are the AC44s (there may be one or two patched MP15DCs as well.) CNWHS compiled an entire list in their final CNW roster book "Run of the GEs"
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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, July 24, 2006 6:58 PM
yeah i have been meaning to buy that book...

i saw in the SP thread pictures of UP units with SP patches for some reason. maybe there are CNW patches out there too or something.everyone keep your eyes peeled


tch...photoshopped images....

and like they said in that topic about SP.

TAKE BACK CNW!!!

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Posted by n012944 on Sunday, August 6, 2006 6:18 PM

Well, IRM is almost done with the restoration of CNW F7 411, here are some pics of it painted, but not yet lettered.

http://www.irm.org/gallery/cnw411paintproj

 

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Posted by espeefoamer on Sunday, August 6, 2006 6:51 PM

It's great to see a C&NW F unit preserved.My only ride on the C&NW was on a Chicago to Harvard "scoot" in 1979. It had an F7 and four bi level coaches.Smile [:)]

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, August 7, 2006 2:11 PM
i like it. i just hope we see a hood unit come back in CNW colors one day. one SD60. and i'll be happy

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Posted by Zane on Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:04 PM

Hey, could anybody please write a nice piece on what Nelson Yard was like way back when?  I have heard stories of the hotel at the yard and how it was like stepping back in time when you entered the building. 

I am very curious about this as all the old timers talk about this place, and some crazy things that went on there.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 8, 2006 7:48 AM

C&NW OLS Engines

 MP15DC; 1303, 1304, 1305

GP15-1; 4405, 4410

GP38-2; 4601, 4602, 4604, 4606, 4607, 4614, 4627, 4631

SD18; 6629, 6636

SD38-2; 6652

SD40-2; 6825, 6826, 6886, 6902, 6913, 6930, 6934, 6935

SD50; 7004

SD60; 8029

C42-8; 8551, 8553

C44-9W; 8659, 8717, 8727

AC4400; All 8801-8835; note-CNW 8834 after being repainted to UP 6736, retained its OLS markings

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:24 AM
oh interesting. i didnt know UP ever retained any OLS on repaints

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Posted by wjstix on Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:47 AM

Ya I was sad to see CNW go. Of all 10-11 railroads that existed here in the Twin Cities when I was born in Nov 1958, they were the very last one still around. Seems like all the contacts I had with CNW people were positive. One guy on my block worked in the Omaha Road HQ in Minneapolis, back when I was a kid and would go out trick or treating as an engineer he always got a big kick out of it and gave me a big handfull of white CNW pencils that I used quite proudly at school the whole rest of the school year. (Wish I had kept a few now of course!!). I was happy to be able to get up to Upper Michigan and take pics of the C-628's back in 1986, not long before they were retired.

BTW someone mentioned the Packer/CNW color coincidence earlier...it's interesting that the Packers entered the NFL in 1920, but it wasn't until 1952 that it occured to someone that the GREEN Bay Packers maybe should wear GREEN jerseys. Before that they wore navy blue and gold, colors Notre Dame grad Curly Lambeau borrowed from his alma mater.

Also someone mentioned Chi Bears Blue and Orange, think the RR they were thinking of was the Chicago and Eastern Illinois that wore those colors too, though their blue was a little lighter than the Bears Navy blue...which I assume the Bears wore because George Halas was in the Navy in World War 1.

But hey, even the baseball Philadelphia/Kansas City A's wore dark blue until Charley O Finley bought them in the sixties (and moved them to Oakland).

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, December 31, 2007 9:11 PM

sheesh why didnt i think to just bring this thread back. sure beats ruining other threads.

but onward to my point. there just isnt enough acknowledgement for the remaining CNW rolling stock and other various CNW equipment. but i've devoted myself to documenting these objects with photos. i'm happy to say the quest goes well. here are some of my "greatest hits":

 

autoracks arent as common around here. and so far, that one is the only one i have seen thus far. does anyone know if the ABEBE has a lot of these on it?  

the 180000 rounded hoppers are also less common up here. however i saw a whole cut of them in altoona once. the above image was part of that cut. most of them were brown. that remains the only time i have seen those brown hoppers. hopefully it wont be the last 

here's Altoona's yard office. a CNW building indeed. notice the green signs with yellow wording  Cool [8D]

oh goodness. i LOVE these hoppers. smaller 2-bays built by pullman standard. i saw a decent few in my past, but just that one so far in my new fanning life. 

loved these in my past, love these to this very day. the ex-CRIP 750000 series hoppers. this one here still had its CRIP number visible, which i thought was interesting. the CRIP symbol i always thought was neat on those blue hoppers.

ahhh zito boxcars. i've seen 1 or 2. in short, not enough. Tongue [:P] that's one of my better pics.

the 175 series hoppers. add this to my list of "stuff i only saw 1 of so far". NWL did an article on these 2 issues back. so it was cool to see this one. anyone know if the green or yellow ones are still around?

check out this bridge. that really is something, isnt it? this is a bridge at West Allis, WI. possibly over 50 years old. i wish i could see a train on it.

CNW property in name only. this sign still stands. as well as other CNW warning signs. and yes that's my hat on it. i thought it would fit the theme. 

 

well that's just the highlights of my CNW photo collection. anyone else documenting rolling stock or otherwise too? 

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Posted by Cris_261 on Monday, December 31, 2007 9:46 PM

Thanks for sharing the photos. I've seen a fair amount of C&NW equipment in UP's Salt Lake Yard, and passing through on trains. Used to regularly see former North Western locomotives passing through too. Mainly C44-9Ws and AC44CWs, with an occasional SD40-2, and even rarer C40-8. The last "C&NW" locomotive I've recently seen was the UP heritage unit heading north towards Ogden shortly after the "heritage photo shoot" in SLC.

Be sure to check out February's "Difference of Decades" article. There's a great picture of a C&NW coal train on the Powder River line.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, December 31, 2007 11:18 PM
i've actually never seen (and never will) a CNW coal train. only pictures

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