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Posted by cr6479 on Friday, July 14, 2006 9:07 PM
I have seen alot of CNW engines w/ theoperation Life Saver on them.
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Posted by nordique72 on Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:07 AM
cr6479- the engines your are seeing are patched AC4400CWs- the 8801-8835 units all came delivered with OLS decals and quite a few of these are still patched in CNW paint.
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Posted by jeffhergert on Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:09 AM

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Another CNW junk sighting to report.  GP-7 4160 rusting away at Janesville yard.  Last week there were two CNW engines sitting in Belvidere yard.  They're most likely gone now. 

 Does that GP-7 still have a short, high nose?  The elevator at Ralston, Iowa has two ex-CNW GP-7s that had there noses chopped after being sold off. One is/was still in CNW paint, the other in a solid blue. One of the elevators at Fremont, Nebraska also has ex-CNW GP-7, still in CNW paint, nose chopped. All retain there CNW number.

 Many of those 4100 series GP-7s were ex-Rock Island. Most were rebuilt by the RI in the late 70s and retained there high nose. When the CNW acquired them, they shopped them but didn't chop the noses. I myself, liked the high nose better on the early geeps.

 Since this is a CNW thread and I'm a RI fan, I'll stop here.

 Except, that I saw an ex-Rock blue box car that the CNW repainted into the yellow scheme. Except for the ends, still blue. Must have needed that car real bad.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:43 AM
8 hours and counting!!!

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Posted by CNW534 on Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:19 AM

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8 hours and counting!!!

 

I'm a little pissed that UP would only allow UP employees, retirees, and family to the unveiling.  We cancelled our father-son road trip after I read that here.  They essentially blew off the C&NW folks.  My dad wanted to see it SO bad.  He retired from the C&NW in 1994 after working for them for 42 years.

Thanks a lot, UP. 

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:28 AM
UP never said it was closed to the public. they just said that it was open to employees. but nowhere did it say "employees only". do that trip. i have a feeling you wont be let down. spend some quality time with your father. i kow you'll se that locomotive whether it's at the ceremony or not

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Posted by CNW534 on Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:12 AM

 Lord Atmo wrote:
UP never said it was closed to the public. they just said that it was open to employees. but nowhere did it say "employees only". do that trip. i have a feeling you wont be let down. spend some quality time with your father. i kow you'll se that locomotive whether it's at the ceremony or not

 

It's too late.  I live 50 miles west of you.  In the  up to unveil cnw heritage locomotive sd70ace......  thread, it was mentioned that you need a UP employee ID to get in.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:46 PM
 jeffhergert wrote:

 Does that GP-7 still have a short, high nose?  

    

It's a high nose.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:46 PM
yeah i think there's a few high hoods out there too and maybe a SW1500 which i would LOVE to find. a transportation museum in IL has a GP& on display, as i have said before. and i hope it's a high hood. wasnt EMD's very first geep ever made a GP& purchased by CNW? i think that one's actually still around in full CNW paint too

and how bout that Alton and Southern?

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Posted by n012944 on Sunday, July 16, 2006 2:13 PM

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yeah i think there's a few high hoods out there too and maybe a SW1500 which i would LOVE to find. a transportation museum in IL has a GP& on display, as i have said before. and i hope it's a high hood. wasnt EMD's very first geep ever made a GP& purchased by CNW? i think that one's actually still around in full CNW paint too

and how bout that Alton and Southern?

Illinois Railway Museum has CNW 1518 the first GP7 on hand.  It is currently undergoing restoration.  They also have CNW F7 411 which is getting repainted right now and should be back on the property in the next week. 

 

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Sunday, July 16, 2006 6:41 PM
ah CNW will come back. now if only UP would retire an SD40-2 with the bell on the nose and that a museum would restore its CNW colors

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Posted by nordique72 on Sunday, July 16, 2006 10:22 PM

yeah i think there's a few high hoods out there too and maybe a SW1500 which i would LOVE to find. a transportation museum in IL has a GP& on display, as i have said before. and i hope it's a high hood. wasnt EMD's very first geep ever made a GP& purchased by CNW? i think that one's actually still around in full CNW paint too and how bout that Alton and Southern?

 

Atmo- please see my previous post regarding CNW's SW1500. There may be some MP15DCs in patch paint still left as UPY units (1315-1328)- but there is no CNW SW1500 around in green and yellow. There are quite a few CNW GP7s floating around still- had CNW 4130 come through Houston in February, bound to a new contract switching assignment by it's new owner.

GP7 1518 is kind of a "born again" high hood unit- the CNW rebuilt it at Oelwein, IA and renumbered it the 4311 and chopped it's nose. In 1987 the unit was retired and IRM aquired it from CNW- as part of the deal CNW sent it back to Oelwein, rebuilt the high nose and repainted it as the 1518 (not a perfect reproduction of the original scheme- but good enough!). It is now at IRM being fully backdated to it's original appearance in their shop (pics are on the IRM site.) The 1518 is the first production GP7- a main reason why IRM got it.

Alton and Southern was once a joint venture owned by CNW and MP- the paint scheme was a combination of CNW's and MP's (using CNW yellow and MP blue) as was the logo (a CNW bar over an MP buzzsaw). The CNW sold it's interest in A&S to the SP in the early 70's- but still utilized them as their main St. Louis connection.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:22 PM

Ah, the legendary ex-CGW Oelwein shops. CNW rebuilt so many GP7s & GP9s there.

The south end of the "running repair" shop

 

North end

 

South side of the main shop

 

I've got a few more pics, but that's enough for now.

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Posted by wctransfer on Monday, July 17, 2006 8:56 AM
Wow! Dingoix thanks for posting that! That last shot makes you feel like your there! Is that the museum part?

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Monday, July 17, 2006 1:42 PM
there's a museum there?

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Posted by cr6479 on Monday, July 17, 2006 1:44 PM
That last pic does look like museum, but i am too sure.
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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, July 17, 2006 1:56 PM

 Here are a couple of links to what they have in Oelwein.  

 http://www.cgwo.org

 and

http://www.oelwein.com/railroad.php

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Posted by railfanespee4449 on Monday, July 17, 2006 2:59 PM

If you want to see a patched CNW SW (Now ADM 1218)  go to the ADM plant in Des Moines, IA

Here are some CNW units I've seen recently

 

Call me crazy, but I LIKE Zito yellow. RAILFANESPEE4449
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Posted by cr6479 on Monday, July 17, 2006 3:07 PM
If you look close in the last photo you can read the on EX-CNW now UP 9798. CNW# 8694
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Posted by cr6479 on Monday, July 17, 2006 8:49 PM
Is UP 9798 EX-CNW #8694 a DASH 8????
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 17, 2006 11:43 PM

No, the mueseum is on the opposite side of the tracks

The yard tower was restored a few years ago and the mueseum is the brick building behind the tower.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:40 PM
wow i need to go to see that museum

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Posted by blhanel on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:42 PM
I should have seen it by now- heck, I'm only 30 miles away- but I didn't even know it existed.
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Posted by Lord Atmo on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:28 PM
me neither. i want to see that GP7 though. really badly

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:39 PM

Brian, a good time to see the mueseum will be August 19-20 9am-5pm. Oelwein's annual RR days.

 

LA, I take you mean FP7?

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:29 PM
uhhh BOTH! the carbody moreso however because that's just old school CNW. but a STEAMER would make my day.

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Posted by cr6479 on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:55 PM

 Lord Atmo wrote:
me neither. i want to see that GP7 though. really badly

I miss those CNW GP7 engines.

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Posted by blhanel on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:21 PM
 dingoix wrote:

Brian, a good time to see the mueseum will be August 19-20 9am-5pm. Oelwein's annual RR days.



I'll put that on my calendar!
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Posted by ShopsYardMaster on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:27 AM
 Lord Atmo wrote:
uhhh BOTH! the carbody moreso however because that's just old school CNW. but a STEAMER would make my day.


About the only " servicable" C&NW steamer left is the 1385 at North Freedom, WI (MidContinent RR museum), and it's been down for rebuild since about 1997. The museum has put it 3 rd in line for overhaul, behind 2 smaller engines, and the first of those isn't scheduled to return to service for at least a few more years.Banged Head [banghead]
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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:48 AM
Hey...I was looking at pics of 1995, 8701, and 8646 the other day and couldn't find any grey paint anywhere on 8701.  Am I merely missing it?  I've looked at about a dozen and a half photos of both sides as well as the front and back.  I'm not complaining but just curious if anyone else noticed that.

Dan

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