CSX engine fire..

[zardoz]

Mookie-
I seem to remember something like that from way back when (does this make me an old-timer?). How interesting locomotives might be nopw if such a law was in existence back when ALCO and Fairbanks-Morse were manufacturing locomotives.

[Mookie]

I'm back...again....

Heard from an old-timer this weekend - asked why BNSF would buy GE's since everyone seems to hate them so bad - besides price, which I heard earlier. Said - and I am not sure this is for sure in today's world - Gov't used to tell them they had to buy a certain amount of engines from each company - to insure no monopolies. Any thoughts?

Mookie

[Mookie]

I'm back...again....

Heard from an old-timer this weekend - asked why BNSF would buy GE's since everyone seems to hate them so bad - besides price, which I heard earlier. Said - and I am not sure this is for sure in today's world - Gov't used to tell them they had to buy a certain amount of engines from each company - to insure no monopolies. Any thoughts?

Mookie

[JoeKoh]

let me go see if I have more that 38 cents went to the matt college fund.Any change at the end of the day plus other contributions go to that fund.
stay safe
joe

[JoeKoh]

let me go see if I have more that 38 cents went to the matt college fund.Any change at the end of the day plus other contributions go to that fund.
stay safe
joe

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

Jim
Defiance doesn't need to spray for mosquitoes as long as csx keeps running the ge units it has been lately.
stay safe
joe

Hi Joe, Hey can I borrow that 38 cents you found in the couch when you got your 3 rd star. [:D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

Jim
Defiance doesn't need to spray for mosquitoes as long as csx keeps running the ge units it has been lately.
stay safe
joe

Hi Joe, Hey can I borrow that 38 cents you found in the couch when you got your 3 rd star. [:D]

[JoeKoh]

Jim
Defiance doesn't need to spray for mosquitoes as long as csx keeps running the ge units it has been lately.
stay safe
joe

[JoeKoh]

Jim
Defiance doesn't need to spray for mosquitoes as long as csx keeps running the ge units it has been lately.
stay safe
joe

[Anonymous]

Wabash1 and Ironken, ya all are going to get Kevin mad at you talking about his favorite locos that way. [|)] You know he eats SD70MACs for breakfast. I sure wouldn't want him mad at me. Who knows what he might do. And on top of all that, you know he has a pol-E bear friend. [:D]

[Anonymous]

Wabash1 and Ironken, ya all are going to get Kevin mad at you talking about his favorite locos that way. [|)] You know he eats SD70MACs for breakfast. I sure wouldn't want him mad at me. Who knows what he might do. And on top of all that, you know he has a pol-E bear friend. [:D]

[wabash1]

instance response from the throttle. there is so much lag in the turbo from the 4 stroke ge boat ancher the fuel dont get used and goes up in the stack and turbo. when they finally do get rev up it is already time to get off the throttle. if you like slow inefficiant engines you will love a ge. if you want to get where you are going and not be nerve racked by all the vibrations and rattles of the ge then get a hold of a emd.

[wabash1]

instance response from the throttle. there is so much lag in the turbo from the 4 stroke ge boat ancher the fuel dont get used and goes up in the stack and turbo. when they finally do get rev up it is already time to get off the throttle. if you like slow inefficiant engines you will love a ge. if you want to get where you are going and not be nerve racked by all the vibrations and rattles of the ge then get a hold of a emd.

[Anonymous]

I have no idea why, jhhtrains. All I know is that GEs are turdwagons. They move the freight, but, they shake like a dog trying to pass carpet tacks. You always find fusees and toilet paper stuffed in different places around the engineer's stand (the t.p. gets stuffed under the auto brake valve, and the fusees get wedged between the side of the console and the wall) to quaff vibrations. We're talking 2003 AC4400s here. Not old junk........new junk. Then you go hop on a MAC and wow..........little vibration, quiet. I can even write without using a clipboard (use a clipboard on the GEs so I can write on my lap......the desk vibrates too bad at 8 throttle). MACs are cadillacs compared to the GE toasters. I even joke with my hoggers when we get a GE with a little age on it if this one has a, "Big Cam," cause they rock and lope a little at idle. I would pay money to see one sling its guts out all over the walkway. Ok, Ok, I'm a little ornery.
Ken

[Anonymous]

I have no idea why, jhhtrains. All I know is that GEs are turdwagons. They move the freight, but, they shake like a dog trying to pass carpet tacks. You always find fusees and toilet paper stuffed in different places around the engineer's stand (the t.p. gets stuffed under the auto brake valve, and the fusees get wedged between the side of the console and the wall) to quaff vibrations. We're talking 2003 AC4400s here. Not old junk........new junk. Then you go hop on a MAC and wow..........little vibration, quiet. I can even write without using a clipboard (use a clipboard on the GEs so I can write on my lap......the desk vibrates too bad at 8 throttle). MACs are cadillacs compared to the GE toasters. I even joke with my hoggers when we get a GE with a little age on it if this one has a, "Big Cam," cause they rock and lope a little at idle. I would pay money to see one sling its guts out all over the walkway. Ok, Ok, I'm a little ornery.
Ken

[Modelcar]

.....The engine fire article did state it was a General Electric AC4400CW...No. 83.

[Modelcar]

.....The engine fire article did state it was a General Electric AC4400CW...No. 83.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

never had a emd catch fire they just keep running. on the other hand ive had several ge engines go up. i dont waste the fire exstigisher. they eventually burn out. had many a ge go up and i keep chugging along with my emds doing all the work.

O K why do GEs catch fire and EMDs do not? [?]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

never had a emd catch fire they just keep running. on the other hand ive had several ge engines go up. i dont waste the fire exstigisher. they eventually burn out. had many a ge go up and i keep chugging along with my emds doing all the work.

O K why do GEs catch fire and EMDs do not? [?]

[Anonymous]

Yep Wabash, I am pretty young on the RR and havn't seen any EMDs shoot craps, but have seen a few GEs self destruct. That's pretty bad given my short time here so far. Hell, anything less than 10 years and you are still a baby on the RR.
Ken

[Anonymous]

Yep Wabash, I am pretty young on the RR and havn't seen any EMDs shoot craps, but have seen a few GEs self destruct. That's pretty bad given my short time here so far. Hell, anything less than 10 years and you are still a baby on the RR.
Ken

[wabash1]

never had a emd catch fire they just keep running. on the other hand ive had several ge engines go up. i dont waste the fire exstigisher. they eventually burn out. had many a ge go up and i keep chugging along with my emds doing all the work.

[wabash1]

never had a emd catch fire they just keep running. on the other hand ive had several ge engines go up. i dont waste the fire exstigisher. they eventually burn out. had many a ge go up and i keep chugging along with my emds doing all the work.

[Anonymous]

I agree that maybe something better than hand held fire extinguishers might be a good idea. I work on airplanes and of course they have built in fire supression eqiupment. Kinda hard to get a firetruck at 40,000 feet.

The other comments are interesting also. Keep posting stories, we will continue to read and enjoy them. [:)]

[Anonymous]

I agree that maybe something better than hand held fire extinguishers might be a good idea. I work on airplanes and of course they have built in fire supression eqiupment. Kinda hard to get a firetruck at 40,000 feet.

The other comments are interesting also. Keep posting stories, we will continue to read and enjoy them. [:)]

[Anonymous]

Many years ago, I was running a WM SD type over the road. After we got past the slow part of the railroad, I started picking up speed. Up abou8t 40 mph, the engine made a loud "pop" as the it dropped its load, along with a puff of black smoke. The unit made its way back up to the amps it should be making, when "pop" again with the smoke. During one of these "pops" I looked out the back door. As the engine popped, I could see something was hitting the first door behind the cab from behind. [this is where the electrical generator is located.] We didn't catch fire, but I found out why they put clamps and wingnuts on the generator door! We figured the generator was throwing an arc at the door, but the arc didn't come out, and I sure wasn't going in! And yes, WM fans, the SD was in the red & white scheme. Didn't help me any, though.

[Anonymous]

Many years ago, I was running a WM SD type over the road. After we got past the slow part of the railroad, I started picking up speed. Up abou8t 40 mph, the engine made a loud "pop" as the it dropped its load, along with a puff of black smoke. The unit made its way back up to the amps it should be making, when "pop" again with the smoke. During one of these "pops" I looked out the back door. As the engine popped, I could see something was hitting the first door behind the cab from behind. [this is where the electrical generator is located.] We didn't catch fire, but I found out why they put clamps and wingnuts on the generator door! We figured the generator was throwing an arc at the door, but the arc didn't come out, and I sure wasn't going in! And yes, WM fans, the SD was in the red & white scheme. Didn't help me any, though.

[Modelcar]

....Sounds like the consensus of you railroaders is..."no extinguishing apparatus built in to the unit"...That is surprising to me realizing the fuel oil, electrical, and plenty of heat at some of the spots...[turbo charger], etc...and fire fighting equipment may not be reachable from communities at many locations. Quite a big investment [engine], not to have better protection.

[Modelcar]

....Sounds like the consensus of you railroaders is..."no extinguishing apparatus built in to the unit"...That is surprising to me realizing the fuel oil, electrical, and plenty of heat at some of the spots...[turbo charger], etc...and fire fighting equipment may not be reachable from communities at many locations. Quite a big investment [engine], not to have better protection.

[Anonymous]

GEs especially the older turds are notorius for fires. They load up with fuel in the exhaust easily and when you start horsing them a little bit the show starts until it clears out. Got on an old B something or other that had sat in the service track for days idling. That piece of crap belched fire and showered sparks for about 4 miles, then it stopped loading and died (not related to the fireshow). The poor Emd that was second out was pulling its guts out until the train finally laid down.
Ken