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Posted by mloik on Monday, November 29, 2004 1:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

One time on a tourist railroad we almost hit a deer. I was sitting in the car closest to the engine and saw 2 deer running alongside the train. We were coming to a tunnel and if the deer couldn't cross before the tunnel they would be dead meat, so the engineer slowed the train down and they crossed in front just before we entered the tunnel. It was very interesting.

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Substitute "dumb-*** human" for "deer" (in one case with headphones instead of antlers), and I've seen the same thing.
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Posted by mloik on Monday, November 29, 2004 1:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

One time on a tourist railroad we almost hit a deer. I was sitting in the car closest to the engine and saw 2 deer running alongside the train. We were coming to a tunnel and if the deer couldn't cross before the tunnel they would be dead meat, so the engineer slowed the train down and they crossed in front just before we entered the tunnel. It was very interesting.

Willy


Substitute "dumb-*** human" for "deer" (in one case with headphones instead of antlers), and I've seen the same thing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:39 PM
With deer flipping the lights off when you see them and then putting them back on often snaps the deer out of their hypnosis and gets them off the tracks. Early in the winter when the deer are relatively well fed things work well. Later on as the deep snow keeps the deer from adequate food they slow down considerably and show poorer judgement around the tracks.

There is no such thing as a safe deer on the tracks...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:39 PM
With deer flipping the lights off when you see them and then putting them back on often snaps the deer out of their hypnosis and gets them off the tracks. Early in the winter when the deer are relatively well fed things work well. Later on as the deep snow keeps the deer from adequate food they slow down considerably and show poorer judgement around the tracks.

There is no such thing as a safe deer on the tracks...

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Posted by miniwyo on Sunday, November 28, 2004 8:38 PM
OK I have a question then, When a train hits a large animal sucha as Deer, Elk, Moose, Horses, Cattle, etc. Do they have to stop or do they just report it to the dipatcher, or do they not even bother??

Also, they have tose things that you can get for your car that scare away deer with some sort of high frequency pich or somthing, why don't they put those on locos, it would cost a bit for initial investment but would pay off after that.

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Posted by miniwyo on Sunday, November 28, 2004 8:38 PM
OK I have a question then, When a train hits a large animal sucha as Deer, Elk, Moose, Horses, Cattle, etc. Do they have to stop or do they just report it to the dipatcher, or do they not even bother??

Also, they have tose things that you can get for your car that scare away deer with some sort of high frequency pich or somthing, why don't they put those on locos, it would cost a bit for initial investment but would pay off after that.

RJ

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Posted by railman on Sunday, November 28, 2004 8:13 PM
Speaking of fine odor and preventive medicine...

The U of M (published in the Star Tribune last year) came up with a plan to thwart people who were trying to steal pine trees off the campus for X-mas- they sprayed them with a chemical reminiscent of skunk "deposits" when they were taken into a warm enviroment from the cold wilds of Minnesota....Well nobody stole many trees over December, and when things thawed out in March, yowza!
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Posted by railman on Sunday, November 28, 2004 8:13 PM
Speaking of fine odor and preventive medicine...

The U of M (published in the Star Tribune last year) came up with a plan to thwart people who were trying to steal pine trees off the campus for X-mas- they sprayed them with a chemical reminiscent of skunk "deposits" when they were taken into a warm enviroment from the cold wilds of Minnesota....Well nobody stole many trees over December, and when things thawed out in March, yowza!
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Posted by AlcoRS11Nut on Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:54 PM
The smell must be lovely when it bakes in the sun.
I love the smell of ALCo smoke in the Morning. "Long live the 251!!!" I miss the GBW and my favorite uncle is Uncle Pete. Uncle Pete eats Space Noodles for breakfast.
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Posted by AlcoRS11Nut on Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:54 PM
The smell must be lovely when it bakes in the sun.
I love the smell of ALCo smoke in the Morning. "Long live the 251!!!" I miss the GBW and my favorite uncle is Uncle Pete. Uncle Pete eats Space Noodles for breakfast.
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Posted by kenneo on Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Wdlgln005

Lion Dung on Train Tracks Keeps Deer Safe
Wed August 20, 2003 10:25 AM ET


A deer does what a deer has to do. NOW, if only we could find such an easy solution to autos on track in front of train.

Then, from Sask_Tinplater:
Apparently the project was indeed a success, but they have now stopped doing it because of complaints from MOW workers and passengers because of the smell of the lion dung. That certainly isn't a surprise to me.

Perhaps I was premature? Perhaps we have found a solution to all those pesky fans tresspassing, taking pictures, and spikes and things like complete #20 switches?[:0][:0][:0][V]
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Posted by kenneo on Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Wdlgln005

Lion Dung on Train Tracks Keeps Deer Safe
Wed August 20, 2003 10:25 AM ET


A deer does what a deer has to do. NOW, if only we could find such an easy solution to autos on track in front of train.

Then, from Sask_Tinplater:
Apparently the project was indeed a success, but they have now stopped doing it because of complaints from MOW workers and passengers because of the smell of the lion dung. That certainly isn't a surprise to me.

Perhaps I was premature? Perhaps we have found a solution to all those pesky fans tresspassing, taking pictures, and spikes and things like complete #20 switches?[:0][:0][:0][V]
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Posted by dehusman on Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:32 PM
Probably run over humans than deer. Most of the humans are in cars. Deer can't drive. Probably why they're safer.

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Posted by dehusman on Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:32 PM
Probably run over humans than deer. Most of the humans are in cars. Deer can't drive. Probably why they're safer.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:16 PM
OK, this is a really old topic, but I decided to resurect it because I've heard an update on the Japanese railways spreading lion dung on the rails to prevent deer from being hit. Apparently the project was indeed a success, but they have now stopped doing it because of complaints from MOW workers and passengers because of the smell of the lion dung. That certainly isn't a surprise to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:16 PM
OK, this is a really old topic, but I decided to resurect it because I've heard an update on the Japanese railways spreading lion dung on the rails to prevent deer from being hit. Apparently the project was indeed a success, but they have now stopped doing it because of complaints from MOW workers and passengers because of the smell of the lion dung. That certainly isn't a surprise to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 11:30 PM
Animals are attracted to tracks cause its a lot of clear space. Its much easier to walk for them and survive during brutal winters here. Unfortunately its hard to survive when train comes right to you at 60 mph. As for dogs- keep them on a leash!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 11:30 PM
Animals are attracted to tracks cause its a lot of clear space. Its much easier to walk for them and survive during brutal winters here. Unfortunately its hard to survive when train comes right to you at 60 mph. As for dogs- keep them on a leash!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 11:01 PM
Once we hit a turkey, doing 60mph on a RoadRailer. That poor bird hit the plow and up and over the locomotives. The radiator fans were shooting up feathers for a mile or so. Must have decided to commit suicide instead of becoming Thanksgiving Dinner.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 11:01 PM
Once we hit a turkey, doing 60mph on a RoadRailer. That poor bird hit the plow and up and over the locomotives. The radiator fans were shooting up feathers for a mile or so. Must have decided to commit suicide instead of becoming Thanksgiving Dinner.
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Posted by David3 on Friday, August 29, 2003 4:34 PM
Wow, that is a happier story, and that IS a miracle!
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Posted by David3 on Friday, August 29, 2003 4:34 PM
Wow, that is a happier story, and that IS a miracle!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 12:31 PM
I thought I'd cheer things up with a happier story about dogs and trains. My grandpa told me this story about a dog that belonged to a guy he knew. The dog loved to chase trains and would always run along side them. One day the dog ran across a road at a railroad crossing and so with the pavement raised up to the level of the track was much closer to the train. The dog ended up getting hit in the head by the steps on a caboose. Miraculously, the dog survived and lived a healthy life for many years after that. He still continued to chase trains like always, but never would go across the road at a crossing because of what happened before. True story.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 12:31 PM
I thought I'd cheer things up with a happier story about dogs and trains. My grandpa told me this story about a dog that belonged to a guy he knew. The dog loved to chase trains and would always run along side them. One day the dog ran across a road at a railroad crossing and so with the pavement raised up to the level of the track was much closer to the train. The dog ended up getting hit in the head by the steps on a caboose. Miraculously, the dog survived and lived a healthy life for many years after that. He still continued to chase trains like always, but never would go across the road at a crossing because of what happened before. True story.
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Posted by dknelson on Friday, August 29, 2003 8:13 AM
A friend once had a cab ride in Amtrak Chicago to New Orleans route and said the entire route was marked by dead dogs and other animals. RR rights of way are good places to see wild animals (and wild flowers) due to the isolation. WE see coyotes and fox and deer on the south side of Milwaukee. Lots of dead possums and coons too.
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Posted by dknelson on Friday, August 29, 2003 8:13 AM
A friend once had a cab ride in Amtrak Chicago to New Orleans route and said the entire route was marked by dead dogs and other animals. RR rights of way are good places to see wild animals (and wild flowers) due to the isolation. WE see coyotes and fox and deer on the south side of Milwaukee. Lots of dead possums and coons too.
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Posted by David3 on Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:29 PM
I hate to even talk about it, but my dad saw a dog on the BNSF tracks in Romeoville, Illinois it was already hurt pretty bad, but then a BNSF trailer train came.... Well it was going about 60mph, and a man came up and tried to pull the dog off the tracks but it couldn't make it, and the dog got hit, it's sad to hear since I love dogs. I wi***hey would invent something to keep them off the tracks.[V][V][V][V][V]
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Posted by David3 on Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:29 PM
I hate to even talk about it, but my dad saw a dog on the BNSF tracks in Romeoville, Illinois it was already hurt pretty bad, but then a BNSF trailer train came.... Well it was going about 60mph, and a man came up and tried to pull the dog off the tracks but it couldn't make it, and the dog got hit, it's sad to hear since I love dogs. I wi***hey would invent something to keep them off the tracks.[V][V][V][V][V]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:12 PM
Hey mud, I see that your stompin' grounds are Den-LaJunta. That is home for me. Gotta lotta friends there. E-mail me with what road you are getting raped, uh, I mean having your job scabbed out by, uh I mean work for. OK, OK, I'm a little sarchastic toward the company. I have an old friend that is a trackrider on the BNSF on some of that territory. ironken2001@sbcglobal.net That's if you don't mind. I don't wanna invade your privacy.
Ken

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