The ALCo diesel locomotive thread

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AlcoRS11Nut

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

Pentrex has a 3 series tape set called, "Those Incredible Alcos". They have tried to show one of every type of Alco ever made. Some Alco locos were produced in such few numbers that none are still around. The set is worth while and can be purchased through the Pentrex.com site.


Also, as I told Dougal, you can email Andy I. He sorta keeps up on this type of stuff. He is also a trains.com forum member. Just scroll up and find his email addy and his website is also listed.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AlcoRS11Nut

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

Pentrex has a 3 series tape set called, "Those Incredible Alcos". They have tried to show one of every type of Alco ever made. Some Alco locos were produced in such few numbers that none are still around. The set is worth while and can be purchased through the Pentrex.com site.


Also, as I told Dougal, you can email Andy I. He sorta keeps up on this type of stuff. He is also a trains.com forum member. Just scroll up and find his email addy and his website is also listed.

[AlcoRS11Nut]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by AlcoRS11Nut

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

Pentrex has a 3 series tape set called, "Those Incredible Alcos". They have tried to show one of every type of Alco ever made. Some Alco locos were produced in such few numbers that none are still around. The set is worth while and can be purchased through the Pentrex.com site.


Also, as I told Dougal, you can email Andy I. He sorta keeps up on this type of stuff. He is also a trains.com forum member. Just scroll up and find his email addy and his website is also listed.

Thanks jhhtrainsplanes

I saw the the video's, but I don't know when they were filmed so I thought the railroads might have made some changes to their rosters, and the ALCo's might be gone.[V] I'll try to email Andy I. sometime.

[AlcoRS11Nut]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by AlcoRS11Nut

Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)

Pentrex has a 3 series tape set called, "Those Incredible Alcos". They have tried to show one of every type of Alco ever made. Some Alco locos were produced in such few numbers that none are still around. The set is worth while and can be purchased through the Pentrex.com site.


Also, as I told Dougal, you can email Andy I. He sorta keeps up on this type of stuff. He is also a trains.com forum member. Just scroll up and find his email addy and his website is also listed.

Thanks jhhtrainsplanes

I saw the the video's, but I don't know when they were filmed so I thought the railroads might have made some changes to their rosters, and the ALCo's might be gone.[V] I'll try to email Andy I. sometime.

[M636C]

On Saturday, I drove 60 miles to watch a grain train expected to be hauled by two Clyde/EMD A16Cs (Basically F9s with SD9 trucks). It didn't appear, but instead I saw a container train hauled by two Goodwin/Alcos, DL-500C 4472 (A cab unit like a C-C FPA-4, but with a flat cab at the back - which was leading) and DL-500G JL-405 (a double end boxcab). Both of these have 12-251C engines, and I caught them on a 1.5% grade. 4472 had been last painted in the early 1980s, and although it was clean, the paint was fairly sad.

So, guys, was I better off having seen Alcos rather than EMDs?

Peter

[M636C]

On Saturday, I drove 60 miles to watch a grain train expected to be hauled by two Clyde/EMD A16Cs (Basically F9s with SD9 trucks). It didn't appear, but instead I saw a container train hauled by two Goodwin/Alcos, DL-500C 4472 (A cab unit like a C-C FPA-4, but with a flat cab at the back - which was leading) and DL-500G JL-405 (a double end boxcab). Both of these have 12-251C engines, and I caught them on a 1.5% grade. 4472 had been last painted in the early 1980s, and although it was clean, the paint was fairly sad.

So, guys, was I better off having seen Alcos rather than EMDs?

Peter

[Anonymous]

Peter! That's like asking, "Am I better off with the 16-oz. New York Strip or the 16 oz. rock lobster tail.?"

[Anonymous]

Peter! That's like asking, "Am I better off with the 16-oz. New York Strip or the 16 oz. rock lobster tail.?"

[M636C]

OK, Mark, I was just showing off! I hadn't seen either of those operator's trains out on the road, but the ARG GM class are more recent in my area. There were the usual other trains, and it was a good day! We don't often hear 251s or 567Cs on the main line, and I think I was better off with the Alcos, because they may not last as long as the EMDs, even though their fuel efficiency will be better.

Peter

[M636C]

OK, Mark, I was just showing off! I hadn't seen either of those operator's trains out on the road, but the ARG GM class are more recent in my area. There were the usual other trains, and it was a good day! We don't often hear 251s or 567Cs on the main line, and I think I was better off with the Alcos, because they may not last as long as the EMDs, even though their fuel efficiency will be better.

Peter

[Anonymous]

Check out the latest issue of The Railroad Press magazine for a listing of active Alco units. The entire issue is dedicated to Alco plus every issue has an Alco news column.

[Anonymous]

Check out the latest issue of The Railroad Press magazine for a listing of active Alco units. The entire issue is dedicated to Alco plus every issue has an Alco news column.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by baberuth73

Check out the latest issue of The Railroad Press magazine for a listing of active Alco units. The entire issue is dedicated to Alco plus every issue has an Alco news column.

Sounds like a "must have" to me. [;)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by baberuth73

Check out the latest issue of The Railroad Press magazine for a listing of active Alco units. The entire issue is dedicated to Alco plus every issue has an Alco news column.

Sounds like a "must have" to me. [;)]

[Anonymous]

I was wondering where CPR's M640 ran 4744 what a powerful engine what was the horsepower on that thing

[Anonymous]

I was wondering where CPR's M640 ran 4744 what a powerful engine what was the horsepower on that thing

[Anonymous]

MLW's M-640 (a one of a kind loco) was rated at 4000 horse power, this brute was powered with an 18cyl. 251F. Unfortunately, on the first run the 18-251F failed on the road. A crankshaft failure I believe. Just imagine what railroading today would be like today if the M-640 had been very sucessful, MLW/Bombardier might still be a viable player in the modern locomotive market.

[Anonymous]

MLW's M-640 (a one of a kind loco) was rated at 4000 horse power, this brute was powered with an 18cyl. 251F. Unfortunately, on the first run the 18-251F failed on the road. A crankshaft failure I believe. Just imagine what railroading today would be like today if the M-640 had been very sucessful, MLW/Bombardier might still be a viable player in the modern locomotive market.

[Anonymous]

What ever happend to KEVINS ALCO QUESTION???

HMMM???

[Anonymous]

What ever happend to KEVINS ALCO QUESTION???

HMMM???

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AltonFan

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear
Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

According to a roster originally published in Railroad Magazine, and published in Wayner's book compiling these rosters, the GM&O owned no RS-3s.

QUOTE: I said this:
IIRC, except for the DL-109, all passenger power was EMD.

According to this roster, GM&O also owned some PA-1s and PA-2s. I stand corrected.

The roster made no mention of the DL-109, but other sources indicate that GM&O did once have one.

One of the GM&O PAs was the unit that pulled the original Freedom Train in 1947.There was a plaque on the side stating this. I saw the plaque at the Casey Jones museum in 1967.

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AltonFan

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear
Besides the FAs and RS-1,2,3es what Alco's did the GM &O run?
LC

According to a roster originally published in Railroad Magazine, and published in Wayner's book compiling these rosters, the GM&O owned no RS-3s.

QUOTE: I said this:
IIRC, except for the DL-109, all passenger power was EMD.

According to this roster, GM&O also owned some PA-1s and PA-2s. I stand corrected.

The roster made no mention of the DL-109, but other sources indicate that GM&O did once have one.

One of the GM&O PAs was the unit that pulled the original Freedom Train in 1947.There was a plaque on the side stating this. I saw the plaque at the Casey Jones museum in 1967.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by railpac

MLW's M-640 (a one of a kind loco) was rated at 4000 horse power, this brute was powered with an 18cyl. 251F. Unfortunately, on the first run the 18-251F failed on the road. A crankshaft failure I believe. Just imagine what railroading today would be like today if the M-640 had been very sucessful, MLW/Bombardier might still be a viable player in the modern locomotive market.

If I remember right the SD40s or SD40-2s also had a problem breaking the crankshafts. But there was more than one of them made.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by railpac

MLW's M-640 (a one of a kind loco) was rated at 4000 horse power, this brute was powered with an 18cyl. 251F. Unfortunately, on the first run the 18-251F failed on the road. A crankshaft failure I believe. Just imagine what railroading today would be like today if the M-640 had been very sucessful, MLW/Bombardier might still be a viable player in the modern locomotive market.

If I remember right the SD40s or SD40-2s also had a problem breaking the crankshafts. But there was more than one of them made.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by railpac

MLW's M-640 (a one of a kind loco) was rated at 4000 horse power, this brute was powered with an 18cyl. 251F. Unfortunately, on the first run the 18-251F failed on the road. A crankshaft failure I believe. Just imagine what railroading today would be like today if the M-640 had been very sucessful, MLW/Bombardier might still be a viable player in the modern locomotive market.

The M640 started out even worse than you state. If failed in front of a lot of dignitaries while idling during the ceremony where it was being handed over to CP. NOT an auspicious beginning.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by railpac

MLW's M-640 (a one of a kind loco) was rated at 4000 horse power, this brute was powered with an 18cyl. 251F. Unfortunately, on the first run the 18-251F failed on the road. A crankshaft failure I believe. Just imagine what railroading today would be like today if the M-640 had been very sucessful, MLW/Bombardier might still be a viable player in the modern locomotive market.

The M640 started out even worse than you state. If failed in front of a lot of dignitaries while idling during the ceremony where it was being handed over to CP. NOT an auspicious beginning.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes




If I remember right the SD40s or SD40-2s also had a problem breaking the crankshafts. But there was more than one of them made.

What your thinking of Jim is EMD's SD45. The massive 20cyl. 645E3 block and 3,600 horsepower rating did not fair too well on the longer (and more prone to "snapping") crankshaft. The SD45-2 did not have this problem as much due to refinements and modifications in the block and crankshaft designs.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes




If I remember right the SD40s or SD40-2s also had a problem breaking the crankshafts. But there was more than one of them made.

What your thinking of Jim is EMD's SD45. The massive 20cyl. 645E3 block and 3,600 horsepower rating did not fair too well on the longer (and more prone to "snapping") crankshaft. The SD45-2 did not have this problem as much due to refinements and modifications in the block and crankshaft designs.

[Anonymous]

This might come across as a dumb question, but 40 years after the fact my memory is dim. I was a kid hanging around the New York New Haven and Hartford Shoreline branch in Connecticut. The NH ran a daily way freight (God, I hope no present employee get fired over this) and I actually talked my way on board the locomotive while he did his switching in my home town. I remember it as having an NH deep orange/red nose with a handbrake wheel set in the middle of the high nose. The whistle cord (I got to blow it) dangled from the roof. I don't remember much else about it except it wasn't particularly noisy or smoky (my only comparison being E units the NH ran by at 40 miles an hour on the lead of THE PATRIOT) and that it had external brake cylinders that pushed rods that activated the brake shoes. This would have been circa 1967 or 68, right before the PC takeover. My question is, was that locomotive an ALCO road switcher? I think the cab ceiling MIGHT have been rounded, not angular...

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

This might come across as a dumb question, but 40 years after the fact my memory is dim. I was a kid hanging around the New York New Haven and Hartford Shoreline branch in Connecticut. The NH ran a daily way freight (God, I hope no present employee get fired over this) and I actually talked my way on board the locomotive while he did his switching in my home town. I remember it as having an NH deep orange/red nose with a handbrake wheel set in the middle of the high nose. The whistle cord (I got to blow it) dangled from the roof. I don't remember much else about it except it wasn't particularly noisy or smoky (my only comparison being E units the NH ran by at 40 miles an hour on the lead of THE PATRIOT) and that it had external brake cylinders that pushed rods that activated the brake shoes. This would have been circa 1967 or 68, right before the PC takeover. My question is, was that locomotive an ALCO road switcher? I think the cab ceiling MIGHT have been rounded, not angular...

Thanks!