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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:26 PM
Here's a new question. Why were the big Alco century six axles such rough riders. For exmaple the C628s. The Monon sent theirs back and even Alco stalwart the Lehigh Valley acknowledged the tendency of these units as rough riders...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:26 PM
Here's a new question. Why were the big Alco century six axles such rough riders. For exmaple the C628s. The Monon sent theirs back and even Alco stalwart the Lehigh Valley acknowledged the tendency of these units as rough riders...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:28 PM
Oh and one more, why does GVT collect so damn many Alcos?

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:28 PM
Oh and one more, why does GVT collect so damn many Alcos?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 6:22 AM
Could I have a summary of all of the operable six axle ALCOs from the RSD-1 to the RSD-17
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 6:22 AM
Could I have a summary of all of the operable six axle ALCOs from the RSD-1 to the RSD-17
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 9:17 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

Could I have a summary of all of the operable six axle ALCOs from the RSD-1 to the RSD-17


dougal, Hello [:)]

Email Andy @

inse0005@tc.umn.edu

He would have a pretty good idea of what you want.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 9:17 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

Could I have a summary of all of the operable six axle ALCOs from the RSD-1 to the RSD-17


dougal, Hello [:)]

Email Andy @

inse0005@tc.umn.edu

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, January 26, 2004 10:28 AM
Without being sarcastic, a list of all operable six-axle Alcos could get pretty long if you include the exports and licensee production. As I mentioned in an earlier posting, India is still building 251-powered locomotives, and they are mostly six-axle designs. The WDM-2 (broad gauge) and YDM-4 (meter gauge) are probably the most common power on Indian Railways and they number in the thousands between them.

Argentina has some World Locomotives and RSD16's in operation and they are all six-axle designs. Some DL535's are also operating.

For status in Australia, check this site: http://locopage.railpage.org.au/

Greece also has six-motor Alcos in operation.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, January 26, 2004 10:28 AM
Without being sarcastic, a list of all operable six-axle Alcos could get pretty long if you include the exports and licensee production. As I mentioned in an earlier posting, India is still building 251-powered locomotives, and they are mostly six-axle designs. The WDM-2 (broad gauge) and YDM-4 (meter gauge) are probably the most common power on Indian Railways and they number in the thousands between them.

Argentina has some World Locomotives and RSD16's in operation and they are all six-axle designs. Some DL535's are also operating.

For status in Australia, check this site: http://locopage.railpage.org.au/

Greece also has six-motor Alcos in operation.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 10:47 AM
I would check out http://alcoworld.railfan.net/

PS: I am more of a technical guy [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 10:47 AM
I would check out http://alcoworld.railfan.net/

PS: I am more of a technical guy [:)]
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Posted by espeefoamer on Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:55 PM
My first train ride was behind PAs on the San Joaquin Daylight. I know this because my grandfather took movies from the dome car.I was 9 years old .
I also rode behind an RS1 on Washington Terminal RR. during a switching move.I rode the Western Maryland Scenic Behind An FPA4 and an RS3.
My last time behind an Alco was the express from Toronto to Montreal with an MLW LRC loco.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:55 PM
My first train ride was behind PAs on the San Joaquin Daylight. I know this because my grandfather took movies from the dome car.I was 9 years old .
I also rode behind an RS1 on Washington Terminal RR. during a switching move.I rode the Western Maryland Scenic Behind An FPA4 and an RS3.
My last time behind an Alco was the express from Toronto to Montreal with an MLW LRC loco.
Alcos rock!!![:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p][:p]
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Posted by M636C on Friday, February 13, 2004 1:29 AM
Railpac,

Under your list of engines, you could add model 270, which was a British engine, otherwise called the English Electric or Ruston RK270. It was never used under the Alco name in a locomotive, but a brochure was issued for it. That happened while Alco was part of Britsh group GEC (not to be confused with US GE, that also owned Alco at one time. The engine was used (as a Ruston) in a few British locomotives.

Also, your list of engine usage neglected the cab units, a bad thing to do when talking about Alco. The DL 103/105/107/109/110 all used two 538 or 539, and nearly everyone knows that PA/PBs used 244, as did the early FAs.

On our National Day (Australia=26 January), I chased an empty return of a country music special train, with 11 stainless steel sleeping cars, diners and lounges, in perfect weather through our local mountains with a beautifully restored DL500C, number 4490 leading a less nice DL500G. The sound of two Alcos on a really first class train on 1.5% grades. If I were still using film, I'd have run out!

By the way, I heard a rumour that some Alco locomotives might be brought in from India, possibly standard gauge YDM-4s to provide power for light weight grain lines still in use. But I'll confirm that when I've checked my photos.

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Posted by M636C on Friday, February 13, 2004 1:29 AM
Railpac,

Under your list of engines, you could add model 270, which was a British engine, otherwise called the English Electric or Ruston RK270. It was never used under the Alco name in a locomotive, but a brochure was issued for it. That happened while Alco was part of Britsh group GEC (not to be confused with US GE, that also owned Alco at one time. The engine was used (as a Ruston) in a few British locomotives.

Also, your list of engine usage neglected the cab units, a bad thing to do when talking about Alco. The DL 103/105/107/109/110 all used two 538 or 539, and nearly everyone knows that PA/PBs used 244, as did the early FAs.

On our National Day (Australia=26 January), I chased an empty return of a country music special train, with 11 stainless steel sleeping cars, diners and lounges, in perfect weather through our local mountains with a beautifully restored DL500C, number 4490 leading a less nice DL500G. The sound of two Alcos on a really first class train on 1.5% grades. If I were still using film, I'd have run out!

By the way, I heard a rumour that some Alco locomotives might be brought in from India, possibly standard gauge YDM-4s to provide power for light weight grain lines still in use. But I'll confirm that when I've checked my photos.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 5:44 AM
Who's Andy, Andy Inserra?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 5:44 AM
Who's Andy, Andy Inserra?
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, February 13, 2004 6:33 AM
Andy Inserra is currently a college student who has wasted much of his youth creating and maintaining his website: http://www.tamr.org/Andy_Inserra/

It would appear that India and Australia are Alco heaven. The locomotives may be smaller than what Americans are used to, but 251 engines, side-mounted radiators with shutters, and tri-mount trucks are good enough for me.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, February 13, 2004 6:33 AM
Andy Inserra is currently a college student who has wasted much of his youth creating and maintaining his website: http://www.tamr.org/Andy_Inserra/

It would appear that India and Australia are Alco heaven. The locomotives may be smaller than what Americans are used to, but 251 engines, side-mounted radiators with shutters, and tri-mount trucks are good enough for me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 8:04 AM
I havea Question.. and its a good one

why is everyone answeing questions using the single word "because"...?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 8:04 AM
I havea Question.. and its a good one

why is everyone answeing questions using the single word "because"...?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 1:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CSSHEGEWISCH

Andy Inserra is currently a college student who has wasted much of his youth creating and maintaining his website: http://www.tamr.org/Andy_Inserra/

It would appear that India and Australia are Alco heaven. The locomotives may be smaller than what Americans are used to, but 251 engines, side-mounted radiators with shutters, and tri-mount trucks are good enough for me.


I heard of him from the TAMR that's how I even regonized the name. He also has an ALCO column in a magazine I get.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 1:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CSSHEGEWISCH

Andy Inserra is currently a college student who has wasted much of his youth creating and maintaining his website: http://www.tamr.org/Andy_Inserra/

It would appear that India and Australia are Alco heaven. The locomotives may be smaller than what Americans are used to, but 251 engines, side-mounted radiators with shutters, and tri-mount trucks are good enough for me.


I heard of him from the TAMR that's how I even regonized the name. He also has an ALCO column in a magazine I get.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Oh and one more, why does GVT collect so damn many Alcos?

LC


They get the job done. [}:)]

L C, do you hate Alcos? It seems like you dog them out, not as much as Kevin though.

NS had Alcos in heavy haul service. But you probally know this. They did the job and NS liked them. I don't know your age, or if you ran Alcos. You did ask, "Why they leaked so much fluid?" So I have an idea you have been around some. If you have ran them, please give us your honest opinion of them? Did they pull the train as well as other locos of the same time frame? Did they ride as well as the other locos? Did they receive regular required maintaince? How did they stack up against other locos? Please give us your honest opinion. [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Oh and one more, why does GVT collect so damn many Alcos?

LC


They get the job done. [}:)]

L C, do you hate Alcos? It seems like you dog them out, not as much as Kevin though.

NS had Alcos in heavy haul service. But you probally know this. They did the job and NS liked them. I don't know your age, or if you ran Alcos. You did ask, "Why they leaked so much fluid?" So I have an idea you have been around some. If you have ran them, please give us your honest opinion of them? Did they pull the train as well as other locos of the same time frame? Did they ride as well as the other locos? Did they receive regular required maintaince? How did they stack up against other locos? Please give us your honest opinion. [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:39 AM
OK ALCO fans, answer this, Truthfully...

QUOTE: taken from the EMD vs. GE thread

OK So i'll stop saying ALCO in a bad way...

What was their best locomotive? and what was their worst locomotive...?.

Where did the PA fall in?

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:39 AM
OK ALCO fans, answer this, Truthfully...

QUOTE: taken from the EMD vs. GE thread

OK So i'll stop saying ALCO in a bad way...

What was their best locomotive? and what was their worst locomotive...?.

Where did the PA fall in?

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Posted by AlcoRS11Nut on Sunday, February 15, 2004 10:52 AM
Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)
I love the smell of ALCo smoke in the Morning. "Long live the 251!!!" I miss the GBW and my favorite uncle is Uncle Pete. Uncle Pete eats Space Noodles for breakfast.
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Posted by AlcoRS11Nut on Sunday, February 15, 2004 10:52 AM
Does anyone know where someone can get a list of all operating ALCo's are? (My life gole is to see at least 1 model type in existance)
I love the smell of ALCo smoke in the Morning. "Long live the 251!!!" I miss the GBW and my favorite uncle is Uncle Pete. Uncle Pete eats Space Noodles for breakfast.

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