CNW 8575... UP 9087

[RRKen]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSFrailfan

The CNW crews where a hell of alot friendlier the the you pee. you pee's are jerks. There are alot of CNW crews who don't like the you pee. Back in the later 90's. The CNW crews where extreamly kind to me. Not anymore. And I can see why.

Thank you very much. I am former CNW, now UP. I suppose next you will call us arrogant rails like your good friend Joe? And that is fine.

I really will not try and spell out what has happened to the former CNW, I truely think you would not be able to understand. You will only sit behind your keyboard and keep the same opinions you have had over the last few years. No one will fault you for that.

I met a firemen from the UP eastern district in 1999 working out of Fremont, his home base was North Platte. We chatted for a few hours at the hotel during our lay over. Friendly as could be. Met another UP/MoPac hogger in KC during my visit there. Gave me all the high points of the terminal, and it's hecktic pace. Took time from his off duty time to answer questions. Then there was the yardmaster from Yard Center and Gumshoes. Very informative and candid with me about problems they have there.

In Railroading, just as in life, there will be all sorts. But hey, if you want to lump everyone into one catagory or another, please feel free. There will always be those like me, who know those on the West Iowa pool a lot better than you ever will, and see through such a baseless statement.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSFrailfan

Ya,so,what's your point.

Point is, you quite frankly don't know what you are talking about.

And your blanket broadbrush statements are an insult to many of the fine and hard working Union Pacific employees throughout their system.

Is the internet your only form of entertainment?

[coborn35]

Oh, and I got one of those bell units up here at Itasca recently.

[coborn35]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSFrailfan

The CNW crews where a hell of alot friendlier the the you pee. you pee's are jerks. There are alot of CNW crews who don't like the you pee. Back in the later 90's. The CNW crews where extreamly kind to me. Not anymore. And I can see why.

I HAPPEN TO KNOW SOME UP (not yu pee or whatever garbage you are saying) EMPLOYEES AND ONE OF THEM HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE BEST *** PEOPLE I KNOW!
Id watch your mouth Allan, youve gone dowhill recently.....

[Anonymous]

Ya,so,what's your point.

[CNW 6000]

QUOTE: Originally posted by miniwyo

I Just died a little.......

+1...[B)][8][:(]....

At least there's still 2 -9's around. It's kind of like Luke and Leia being hidden and kept apart from their evil father who succumbed to the dark side....[8D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSFrailfan

The CNW crews where a hell of alot friendlier the the you pee. you pee's are jerks. There are alot of CNW crews who don't like the you pee. Back in the later 90's. The CNW crews where extreamly kind to me. Not anymore. And I can see why.

Dude! Come on! Are you really as ignorant as you appear to be from your posts???

[narig01]

oh drat, gosh darn,
Rgds IGN

[Anonymous]

[zugmann]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSFrailfan

The CNW crews where a hell of alot friendlier the the you pee. you pee's are jerks. There are alot of CNW crews who don't like the you pee. Back in the later 90's. The CNW crews where extreamly kind to me. Not anymore. And I can see why.

Honestly, bro: you should seek some counseling . Definite hostility issues there.

Also, it is not wise to insult the entire workforce of a Class 1. Not that I think they could care less, but it still is not polite.

(just my [2c] )

[Anonymous]

I really don't see what the fuss is about. You CNW fans are lucky you have 2 of the arguably most useful units CNW had left. All of my beloved Conrails were patched before I even knew what Conrail was. Heck, Conrail locomotives started getting patched nearly 2 months before the merger!

[Gluefinger]

There we go.

http://www.cnwhs.org/memberphotos/albums/userpics/10025/normal_CNW%20%231765%20Oelwein%2C%20Ia..jpg

The ex-CNW SD40-2s are very common on MPRVP/MSSPR, MPRIT/MITPR, and MPRDM/MDMPR trains (the first four go through Altoona every single day, the DM trains when needed)

Not all of them have nose bells still, however. UP often removes them when they go for shop work at NLR.

[Lord Atmo]

it's not armour yellow i dislike, it's that UP uses too much of it. and there's no variety on their locomotives. it's dull and uninteresting. the way they put the grey on their SD70ACEs' noses looks nice though cuz you can see it from any angle

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

The ex-C&NW SD40-2's, both patched and in full UP colors, seem to spend a lot of time working out of Proviso on transfers and secondary freights.

Actually, Armour Yellow isn't bad at all, it appears that most of the bile is directed at the fact that it's replacing or has replaced Stagecoach yellow, MP blue, various MKT colors, etc. I wasn't exactly thrilled when EL maroon and grey was replaced by Conrail blue, but they were still in service, even if on different lines.

[oskar]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

maybe the armour yellow ***bags that are there now might be ex CNW. it's impossible to know which UP units in all-UP colors are ex CNW

UP SD40-2's with the bell on the nose are ex CNW one of the easiest engines to tell that they are ex CNW. The ones with the bell on the nose are UP 2952-3096.



kevin

[Lord Atmo]

in Altoona, the engineers always wave to me when they go by. maybe they're ex CNW workers as the yard is ex CNW. i remember seeing CNW units at that yard too. before the dark times. before the merger...

[Anonymous]

The CNW crews where a hell of alot friendlier the the you pee. you pee's are jerks. There are alot of CNW crews who don't like the you pee. Back in the later 90's. The CNW crews where extreamly kind to me. Not anymore. And I can see why.

[Lord Atmo]

there's no image. it just says "no image to display"

[Gluefinger]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

they may as well paint the whole thing yellow since they didnt use enough of the grey to make the color balance. words cannot describe how much love i had for the green cab and yellow nose of a CNW locomotive. it looked so great. now look at UP. yellow nose, yellow cab, grey tippy top of the roof. *yawn*.

I hate to post this a second time, but after seeing "yellow cab" again...

QUOTE: Originally posted by GluefingerEver see the CNW Oelwein Scheme?

http://www.cnwhs.org/memberphotos/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=3

[coborn35]

Pretty soon, in a few years, you can get excited when a unit CAME from C&NW but was since repainted. "Yup son, that der is the old CNW unit, fought out of its yeller, now its ______ (insert rr here)"

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dingoix

Think about it- other than 2 DASH9s, CNW power is GONE. No more SD45s, no more Geeps, no more DASH8s.

Yeah, but hasn't it been that way for the past few months?

[Lord Atmo]

what about that image of a CNW GP7 i linked to? i think maybe 2 crash 9s remain only in UP's fleet. it is possible that UP sold some of their CNW units

[Anonymous]

Some of you are obviously not C&NW fans. Anyway, even if it's a GE, it's sad to see the last CNW standard cab go. Think about it- other than 2 DASH9s, CNW power is GONE. No more SD45s, no more Geeps, no more DASH8s.

[Lord Atmo]

i know i know. i just really hate UP's color. and railroading has gone so far downhill. ugly armour yellow widenose GEs towing nothing but hoppers and intermodals. booooriinnng. i miss the SD45 mixed freight days. the CNW days. i miss the great color schemes. this retarded UP scheme is terrible. they may as well paint the whole thing yellow since they didnt use enough of the grey to make the color balance. words cannot describe how much love i had for the green cab and yellow nose of a CNW locomotive. it looked so great. now look at UP. yellow nose, yellow cab, grey tippy top of the roof. *yawn*. even with my terrible art skills, i could paint that with my eyes closed. the only shortline i know of around here is Wisconsin Northern. nothing great there yet. just 2 geeps. nothing SD yet. CNW was awesome. now i'm lucky if i even see a freight go by in Altoona. when CNW went down, all railroad activity in my area dropped too. truth be told, nothing interesting to look at is left :(

[CopCarSS]

Atmo,

I can sympathize with your predicament. I grew up in Aurora, so technically my hometown RR was the BN. At the same time I did a lot of railfanning on the CNW out as far as Clinton (and occasionally on long weekends to Boone for a dose of the B&SV and Kate Shelley). I loved stopping in Clinton and checking out the GP-7's that always seemed to be shuffling things around the yard. I liked standard cabs (and still do...not only do they look better, they're a lot easier to photograph...no nasty glare on the winshield). I liked the yellow and green (but must confess that I abhorred the bright yellow...whatever it was called).

I just don't understand the complete and total animosity that seems to almost be ruining the hobby for you. The railroad industry has been changing since it's dawn. There are some differences, but it still comes down to a steel wheel on a steel rail. If you learn to appreciate that fact, I think you'll have a better time of it.

As for me, I miss the CNW. I miss the BN (I really miss the Tiger Striped units!) I would've loved to have lived when steam ruled the rails. But...I also have learned to like the BNSF (maybe even the swoosh?), the UP, and short lines. I've learned to like steam (even little tourist steam is still a lot of fun to experience) and I've really come to be a devotee of the UP Steam program. One glimpse of 844 or 3985 (or both together as at last years Frontier Days Train!) is enough to make me bleed Armour Yellow.

So relax, enjoy your memories of the CNW and take the time to appreciate railroading for what it is and what it will someday become.

[Lord Atmo]

copcar, i did not imply that my deffinition of train was universal. it's mine and only mine. at least you can still see trains that almost fit your deffinition in a few places. there's an excursion train that runs a few hours away from my city. steam power, refurbished old passenger cars, and all. as for seeing CNW again, it wont happen because they're all gone. save for 2 Crash 9s. but those mean little to me as widenose cabs are just plain ugly. no more spartan CNW. no more fun. just armour yellow boredom

[Anonymous]

While I still have the (until now unspoken) opinion of "It's only a darn locomotive!", I'm increasingly attached to this story and to the other two CNW units. I compare this almost to CSX's takeover of what was Seaboard System, including Clinchfield. Granted, the CRR locos didn't last NEAR as long, but it was sure sad to see them go.


Matt

[Chris30]

As long as the trains keep rolling... I don't care what color they're painted! I too like the CNW paint scheme and I hope that they keep at least one around. It should be noted that the CNW has been gone for over a decade now and the fact that a train can still have an all CNW painted consist is a bonus. Take what ya get and be happy with it. Change happens.

CC

[Gluefinger]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

no. they're gone. the patch kills it. ruins the awesome green cabs and eliminates the cool logo CNW had. i have said it many times. UP needs to seriously rethink their scheme. the armour yellow overwhelms the unit and makes it look dumb and unpainted. the all green cabs on the CNW units balanced the color perfectly. now that ugly patch throws the color off. farewell, spartan cab CNW.

this is enough to make me want to quit railfanning[:(]

Ever see the CNW Oelwein Scheme?

http://www.cnwhs.org/memberphotos/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=3

[CopCarSS]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

grass grows back, CNW units are dead for good after a patch. apparently you didnt grow up watching CNW locomotives. i even remmeber seeing quite a few high hoods in my childhood. so to me, CNW defines "train". a locomotive with a spartan or high hood cab in the green and yellow colors towing a long line of cars is my deffinition of "Train" at least. i hate seeing all these units go. UP doesnt intend for this, but the're spiting me every time i see a CNW unit with a big yellow patch on the green cab. when i was a kid, i loved both roads the same and was thrilled to see either CNW or UP. but now i hate UP beyond belief. yeah sure, the heritage stuff will be nice. i was told the CNW heritage unit will be half CNW and half UP. just a UP SD70ACE with a colored ***. and the words "2 great railroads under one name" somewhere on the unit. that quote is so wrong. there's nothing great about UP and if they REALLY were under one name, the name would be new. i cant look forward to more spiting by UP[V]

it's been years now with the same hideous armour yellow now. it's time for change and pizaz. UP should make their scheme look interesting and not put 4 horizontal stripes across every locomotive so it looks bland and unpainted. i proudly wear my CNW hat as i type this rant. so what's left? 2 C44-9Ws? wonderful. i hate widenoses.... they may be safer, but man are they ugly. but i would still love the sight of a CNW one though. the lightning stripe was brilliant and looks really cool. why does UP patch these units? CP doesnt patch any of their SOO fleet and CN doesnt patch their WC units. and boy do they ever have problems keeping track of their fleets... think of how much money UP could save by not painting their locomotives aquired from mergers. then maybe they could afford all that stuff they have shortages of. but then again, this IS UP we're talking about...

lastly, look at UP's roster and note the few CNW units on it. then look at their abundancy of SP units on it. yeah, patch CNW and don't touch SP. UP clearly has some issues with CNW

[(-D] I guess I can't have really called myself a railfan all these years! After all, my definition of a "train" involves a steam locomotive on the head end, a caboose on the rear end and a string of 40' boxcars in between. I guess I have to hate all railroads now! And I should've hated them my whole life, too! How dare they even think of running a business instead of pandering to my definition of a "train!"

Love the conspiracy theorey with the SP and CNW units, too. Maybe all the money to be spent on the SP units went to painting the helicopters black or something?