Trains.com

Do Locomotives have bunks and bathroom facilities???

137953 views
60 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: At the Crossroads of the West
  • 11,013 posts
Posted by Deggesty on Friday, September 23, 2016 2:32 PM

samfp1943

To address the post of chutton01: I seem to recal an article in a much older TRAINS that had an article by one of the current editors (possibly, another writer(?).  They were taking a long distance trip, as guests, on board a freight train ( No accomodations,IIRC, other than 'jump seats'.)

     After a number of hours being up, and through crew changes; they elected to go back to an unoccupied unit, and tried to sleep on that unit(?).  Makes one wonder, If J.B. Hunt, as a guest with Mike Haverty, had had to sleep in a locomotive, on their 'Super C' Journey; would the Santa Fe's  collaboration with JBH have ever gotten 'off the ground'?? Hmm

 Another story mentioned that a ' Locomotive Company Delivery Courier' had to stay with the engines in his charge, and constantly be available, to make sure the engine('s), in his charge, were handled properly, enroute to their new receiving owner railroad from the builder. The article mentioned that the Courier, mentioned in the article, made use of a hammock, swung in the new locomotive's cab; until the new locomotive(s) were turned over to their new owner.

There was a more recent story, about a courier, whose job was to oversee the transportation of private owner cars while those cars were being tansported to another location, for their owner...

 Apparently, there are "Rules" that govern the occupation of a car being moved empty, in freight trains(?).  Only a qualified, designated, individual [Courier?] may occupy the car being moved(?)

  Around 1999 or 2000 The BNSF was publishing some articles on their webpage about trying different protocols to help road crews 'get rested' while 'stopped or waiting' enroute.    One proposal, I recall was the eventuality of putting a 'cot(?)/bed' in locomotive cabs; there would be an agreement with the locomotive crew for one to rest while the other stayed awake, for communications. It was apparently, an 'idea' that, for whatever reason, went nowhere.  SighGrumpy

 

 

Sam, the matter of crews' resting en route is covered in GCOR Rule 1.11.1, which allows one crew member to nap for up to 45 minutes if there is a delay. The other crew member must remain awake--and if the train is able to move before the 45 minutes are up, the awake member must waken the sleeping member.

1.11.1 Napping Napping is permitted by train crews, except crews in passenger, commuter or yard service, under the following conditions: • The crew is waiting for departure of their train. or • The train is stopped enroute waiting to be met or passed by a train, waiting for track work, waiting for helper locomotive, or similar conditions. Restrictions are as follows: • A job briefing must be conducted, with agreement reached as to who will nap and who must remain awake. Each crew member has the right and responsibility to refuse to allow another crew member to take a nap if doing so could jeopardize the personal safety of employees, the train, or the public. • One crew member must remain awake at all times. • The nap period must not exceed 45 minutes, which includes the time needed to fall asleep. The napping employee is relieved of all duties. • Train must not be delayed for an employee to take a nap. When conditions allow the train to move, the employee who is to remain awake must immediately waken the napping employee. • Before napping, while waiting for the arrival of their train, employees must ensure all duties have been completed. These duties include reviewing general orders and notices; securing and reviewing track warrants, track bulletins, and other paperwork, if available. • Before napping is allowed enroute, the employee in charge of the locomotive controls must: 1. Make at least a 10-lb. brake pipe reduction. 2. Place generator field switch in the “OFF” position. 3. Center the reverser and remove, if removable. • The employee who is to remain awake must remain on the locomotive while others on the locomotive are napping, except when inspecting passing trains. • If waiting for the arrival of or make-up of train, one crew member must remain awake while waiting for their train’s arrival or make-up at their initial terminal unless arrangements have been made with a third party to wake up all crew members. All crew members that are deadheading or otherwise relieved of duties may nap.1.11.1 Napping Napping is permitted by train crews, except crews in passenger, commuter or yard service, under the following conditions: • The crew is waiting for departure of their train. or • The train is stopped enroute waiting to be met or passed by a train, waiting for track work, waiting for helper locomotive, or similar conditions. Restrictions are as follows: • A job briefing must be conducted, with agreement reached as to who will nap and who must remain awake. Each crew member has the right and responsibility to refuse to allow another crew member to take a nap if doing so could jeopardize the personal safety of employees, the train, or the public. • One crew member must remain awake at all times. • The nap period must not exceed 45 minutes, which includes the time needed to fall asleep. The napping employee is relieved of all duties. • Train must not be delayed for an employee to take a nap. When conditions allow the train to move, the employee who is to remain awake must immediately waken the napping employee. • Before napping, while waiting for the arrival of their train, employees must ensure all duties have been completed. These duties include reviewing general orders and notices; securing and reviewing track warrants, track bulletins, and other paperwork, if available. • Before napping is allowed enroute, the employee in charge of the locomotive controls must: 1. Make at least a 10-lb. brake pipe reduction. 2. Place generator field switch in the “OFF” position. 3. Center the reverser and remove, if removable. • The employee who is to remain awake must remain on the locomotive while others on the locomotive are napping, except when inspecting passing trains. • If waiting for the arrival of or make-up of train, one crew member must remain awake while waiting for their train’s arrival or make-up at their initial terminal unless arrangements have been made with a third party to wake up all crew members. All crew members that are deadheading or otherwise relieved of duties may nap.

Johnny

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy