QUOTE: Originally posted by Murray Guilford is the worst railroad in the world.......................
QUOTE: Originally posted by Blue Ridge Front QUOTE: MR UP Posted: Today, 23:09:34 Current: NS. Why? Because they are stupid inbreds. Historical: N&W. Why? Because they were stupid inbreds. Least Favorite Railfan: "Oldtimer" Why? Because he is a N&W loverboy, which makes him a stupid inbred also. Enjoy bashing the NS while you can, because it is only a matter of time before they are eliminated by the next merger. Then all the inbreds that run the company will be sent packing to the trailer parks from which they crawled out of. And what the hell is all of that supposed to mean? I'm getting tired of coming to the forums and hearing so many hostile and negative comments.
QUOTE: MR UP Posted: Today, 23:09:34 Current: NS. Why? Because they are stupid inbreds. Historical: N&W. Why? Because they were stupid inbreds. Least Favorite Railfan: "Oldtimer" Why? Because he is a N&W loverboy, which makes him a stupid inbred also. Enjoy bashing the NS while you can, because it is only a matter of time before they are eliminated by the next merger. Then all the inbreds that run the company will be sent packing to the trailer parks from which they crawled out of.
Originally posted by jsanchez My least favorite Norfolk Southern- they could be doing a lot more business in the Northeast, to worried about cutting cost instead of growth, they still need to learn what customer service is and improve their public and employee relations. Boring ,cheap paint scheme on their locomotives. NS SUCKS. They have the CRAPIEST PAINTSCHEME EVER! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:29 AM I hate NJT. To me most passenger trains are boring, but NJT is number one in the boring list. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 25, 2004 11:28 PM Can't say I really have a least favorite railroad, though I'm still mad at NS for closing Saluda. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 25, 2004 11:24 PM QUOTE: MR UP Posted: Today, 23:09:34 Current: NS. Why? Because they are stupid inbreds. Historical: N&W. Why? Because they were stupid inbreds. Least Favorite Railfan: "Oldtimer" Why? Because he is a N&W loverboy, which makes him a stupid inbred also. Enjoy bashing the NS while you can, because it is only a matter of time before they are eliminated by the next merger. Then all the inbreds that run the company will be sent packing to the trailer parks from which they crawled out of. And what the hell is all of that supposed to mean? I'm getting tired of coming to the forums and hearing so many hostile and negative comments. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 25, 2004 11:09 PM Current: NS. Why? Because they are stupid inbreds. Historical: N&W. Why? Because they were stupid inbreds. Least Favorite Railfan: "Oldtimer" Why? Because he is a N&W loverboy, which makes him a stupid inbred also. Enjoy bashing the NS while you can, because it is only a matter of time before they are eliminated by the next merger. Then all the inbreds that run the company will be sent packing to the trailer parks from which they crawled out of. Reply Edit CG9602 Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: US 383 posts Posted by CG9602 on Friday, September 24, 2004 11:57 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by Ringer1 Well VIA is sure a better deal than Amtrak. I can go by air almost anywhere at a better rate than by taking AMTRAK. Have been to Seattle twice in the last year and could have went by air for $800.00 less than by AMTRAK in a Pullman. Tom OK, but you know that comparing trains & railroads to airlines and (taxpayer-subsidized) airports is like the proverbial apples-to-oranges comparison. Anyone with a computer can find a train fare that is less than an airfare, and vice versa. Long distance trains go not only from one major metro area to another, but also serve many intermediate municipalities with poor, or costly, or no air service at all. You try to get a ticket to some of the smaller airports, and then see what the price is. You also realize that many smaller airports are even more heavily subsidized than the air service at the large hubs - in some cases, each traveller going to a smaller airport is subsidized by the US taxpayer to the tune of 500 %! (Source: "Supertrains," by Joe Vranich). In addition, the walk-up fare for an Amtrak train is often much much less than the walk-up airfare. Reply CG9602 Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: US 383 posts Posted by CG9602 on Friday, September 24, 2004 11:49 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by emeraldisle AMTRAK,AMTRAK,AMTRAK. Anything that the FED GOV. has had anything to do with has been a fiasco. Amtrak has always been a tax payers nitemare and always will be. Don't let anyone fool you into believing that your taxes still aren't supporting that Rolling TIN CAN.[V][V][V] RANT mode *ON You could make the same statement about the highways. Seeing as how you object to subsidies and think subsidies are bad, why not get rid of the highway funds as well? and the FAA. we'd certainly see a lot more trains running around if we got rid of all those gov't boondoggles and money pits known as highways. They are never completely fixed END RANT Seriously, my least favorite RR? I can't think of any. I also share jesus1st's sentiments on Amtrak. It's disappointing to find on an RR forum those who passionatly dislike certain trains, but, then, this is a free country where we are all entitled to our opinions. . Reply route_rock Member sinceJune 2004 From: Over yonder by the roundhouse 1,224 posts Posted by route_rock on Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:34 PM They couldnt survive cause they dont know how[}:)] Dont worry they will survive right up to the point when no one invests in them anymore.So give me all the major players who screw over small shippers.Yes it does happen look at what Uncle Pete tried in iowa.Told small elevators 100 cars or else! So most have started trucking to IC/CN and IC&E!Thank God for shortlines!Funny how they can turn a profit in the loose car market.Maybe cause all the good managers left to go to them [}:)] Yes we are on time but this is yesterdays train Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Least Favorite Railroad Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:22 AM It has to be the Soo. Not just because they were awarded the Milwaukee Road (I'm a die hard fan), but because of the "rotten pumpkin" paint scheme that they promptly applied to the locomotives, and the no trespassing/no railfanning signs that were posted at the depots and yards after the take over. I got kicked out of the Portage (WI) depot where I went to try and take photos of Milwaukee Road equipment, and never really went back. It was much different in the Milwaukee days, when my Dad and I spent many hours wandering the entire Portage yard and knew most of the crews who ran through the area. All the proposed Soo/Milwaukee logos seemed to disappear right after the takeover as if the Milwaukee never existed. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:01 PM i like to ride amtrak. good way to see thecountry and meet lovely people. if the pc or ic or nyc went behind my house or through my home town they would be my prefered rrs. but they did not. the ic and cnw did. i like em i like all rrs. they built this country . each has its own personality. how about least favorite food? liver, pig brains, cow tongue,rocky mountain oysters. ha. Reply Edit espeefoamer Member sinceNovember 2003 From: West Coast 4,122 posts Posted by espeefoamer on Sunday, April 18, 2004 4:32 PM Two traditional railroads I never cared for were the N&W and theL&N. I used to like UP because they used those great double diesels and the turbines.I really liked those long yellow streamliners,but they disappeared with Amtrak.When these were gone, I lost most of my interest in UP.Now I hate it because it took over my SP.They also took over many other roads. I love seeing thier trains running around with dirty grimy diesels when the traditional(pre 1982) UP kept its units clean.[}:)] Ride Amtrak. Cats Rule, Dogs Drool. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 18, 2004 3:04 PM Guilford is the worst railroad in the world....................... Reply Edit Willy2 Member sinceJanuary 2002 From: Omaha, Nebraska 1,920 posts Posted by Willy2 on Friday, April 16, 2004 3:53 PM My least favorite railroad is the Union Pacific. I just think that they think that they are hot shots! If wasn't for Union Pacific, BNSF would be the largest railroad in the country. That's another reason that I don't like UP. Willy Willy Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 12:52 PM My least favorite is CN and NS Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2003 7:32 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by BOBBISHNA Cast my vote for ANY of the big 4. I'm sick of UP, BNSF, CSX, and NS. Whatever happened to the days when there were several different railroads competing for traffic in a given market? These days, I see railroads as just a "generic" monopoly, that is wiping out all traces of its former self. Stack trains and lookalike unit coal trains don't make for a very good replacement for the unique "old" freights of the pre-1970's era. When was the last time you saw a boxcar with the owning railroads logo painted on the boxcar? These days all you get are some simple reporting marks, provided that they aren't covered in mindless gang graffitti. Todd C. In case you have forgotten, railroads are what we call a business. They are always looking for bigger and better options. Most cars today are leased any way so what do the Class 1's care if it does not have their name on it. Not trying to upset you. My favorite fell victim to the U.P. It's just that the railroads could not survive doing what you are talking about. Reply Edit jsanchez Member sinceFebruary 2001 From: US 377 posts Posted by jsanchez on Saturday, September 6, 2003 9:22 AM You and any potential shippers should contact the Surface Transportation Board if this is really happening, they will usually force the owners to sell the line to a firm who will actually run it, this is especially the case if the line has the potential of being viable, or if online communities are going to be impacted negatively ecconomically. There was company I think it was AKC materials that was buying viable lines to scrap and they are now banned from purchasing railroads. QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken Any railroad created as a pretense for aquiring the the railroad for the sole purpose of controlling who scraps it. (There are at least 4 out there right now). If there is any business out there to be had, they make sure it has been run off. James Sanchez Reply RAILFANUSA Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: US 29 posts Posted by RAILFANUSA on Saturday, September 6, 2003 8:33 AM -------------Aaaah... ...cahn't seem to think of one... ---------------- Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Friday, September 5, 2003 5:30 PM Any railroad created as a pretense for aquiring the the railroad for the sole purpose of controlling who scraps it. (There are at least 4 out there right now). If there is any business out there to be had, they make sure it has been run off. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply brilondon Member sinceApril 2003 From: London, Ontario 195 posts Posted by brilondon on Friday, September 5, 2003 5:16 PM [:(!][xx(]Amtrak [V][:(!]hands down is by far my least favourite railroad. Stay safe, support your local hobby group Stop, Look, and listen The key to living is to wake up. you don't wake up you are probably dead. Reply jchnhtfd Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: US 1,537 posts Posted by jchnhtfd on Saturday, August 30, 2003 8:04 PM My my. We do seem to be bashing Amtrak here... suppose it can't be helped; anything with that much political meddling is going to have problems. But, guys, we're trying -- at least the railroaders and our new president (of Amtrak, not the US, dummy) are. As to least favourite railroad? No problem: Guilford Transportation. They have an arrogance with all concerned which has to be seen to be believed, and the way they treat the help isn't a crime, but should be. Jamie Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:48 AM PERSONALY I DO HATE AMTRACK MYSELF ! Reply Edit joho2486 Member sinceDecember 2001 35 posts Posted by joho2486 on Friday, August 29, 2003 9:27 PM To me, I hate the UP and the NS. I hate the UP because they're too big, they use its power too much, and because, as one has said earlier, they are power hungry. Who could believe that UP is the biggest user of diesel fuel? At least one can consol themselves that the wide cabs sport the winged logo of the old days. I hate the NS because of the paint scheme, which someone has already said, plus I don't like the fact that NS hasn't done more to exploit the traffic base in the Northeast. To my point of view, the old Pennsy and NYC trackage seems an abberation; NS is still a southern railroad with the flavor of the Southern and the Norfolk & Western, not one of a railroad on the East Coast. Of course, there is the Wabash, but even that, if one doesn't look carefully back into history, doesn't seem to fit into the character of the NS. Reply AltonFan Member sinceApril 2003 From: US 1,522 posts Posted by AltonFan on Friday, August 29, 2003 6:54 PM QUOTE: GM&O, it ruined the true Illinois Central I think you got that backwards. IIRC, in IC/GM&O merger, IC was the dominant partner, and it was the former GM&O/Alton lines that were rendered redundant. And it was the red and maroon that got painted over with orange and white, and the GM&O wings that disappeared, while IC's split rail got painted in. And finally, it was IC that sold their traditional herald. Dan Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 5:43 PM Amtrak is not a railroad or I would have a least favorite. I miss all the fallen flags, the short lines and the steam engines, but I love todays trains - different though they may be. It's in the blood. Reply Edit 123 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by Ringer1 Well VIA is sure a better deal than Amtrak. I can go by air almost anywhere at a better rate than by taking AMTRAK. Have been to Seattle twice in the last year and could have went by air for $800.00 less than by AMTRAK in a Pullman. Tom
QUOTE: Originally posted by emeraldisle AMTRAK,AMTRAK,AMTRAK. Anything that the FED GOV. has had anything to do with has been a fiasco. Amtrak has always been a tax payers nitemare and always will be. Don't let anyone fool you into believing that your taxes still aren't supporting that Rolling TIN CAN.[V][V][V]
Yes we are on time but this is yesterdays train
Willy
QUOTE: Originally posted by BOBBISHNA Cast my vote for ANY of the big 4. I'm sick of UP, BNSF, CSX, and NS. Whatever happened to the days when there were several different railroads competing for traffic in a given market? These days, I see railroads as just a "generic" monopoly, that is wiping out all traces of its former self. Stack trains and lookalike unit coal trains don't make for a very good replacement for the unique "old" freights of the pre-1970's era. When was the last time you saw a boxcar with the owning railroads logo painted on the boxcar? These days all you get are some simple reporting marks, provided that they aren't covered in mindless gang graffitti. Todd C.
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken Any railroad created as a pretense for aquiring the the railroad for the sole purpose of controlling who scraps it. (There are at least 4 out there right now). If there is any business out there to be had, they make sure it has been run off.
James Sanchez
QUOTE: GM&O, it ruined the true Illinois Central
Dan
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